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Stutters695
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
So they knew that they had to save corazon. The only people who arent voting in a manner that would kill corazon on day 2 are foolish, vivax, and prplhz (stolen vote). slooshs vote was controlled by corazon. Considering that they only needed a handful of votes to save him its pretty much impossible that no one would try to save him. Looking at the day 2 voting vivax is the guy who stands out as keeping on trying to do something to save corazon. He is the guy who tried to vote very late on for prplhz, he was initially on yamato when that still had a chance of being second. He tried very hard in fruity to save yamato on day 1 when both were mafia so he is not afraid of being in the spotlight in terms of trying to save teammates. Also for the people who do not think corazon could be mafiabased purely on the number of kp: this is a heavily themed game where everyone has a role. It is not at all unlikely for mafia to have vigilantes of some sort to help deal with that. Stutters claimed the shot on foolish, so it is only 2 unaccounted for kp. Kill vivax. I know marv being so wrong about foolishness seems unlikely for him as town but pretty much everyone of us were wrong about foolish including people like super. ##Vote Vivax | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
Are you reading the thread? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Grrrrrrr. Mafia tricksy this game. That hapa case I posted isn't applicable to this game, at least not to any real extent, because he was mainly focused on marv being lazy after a string of scum games (not the case here) AND that was a D2 case to actually CATCH him before LYLO (not the case here). I was really hoping that someone to use that case to defend him a little, see if we could catch multiple folks today. No dice. YamatoI dunno right now whether you're town or scum. If you're town, go hunt NOT MARV. marv is caught. Commenting on it every 15 minutes does nothing, and 3/4 of the thread was super inactive today. I was hoping that someone would come out of the woodwork, defend marv, take the hapa bait, because we don't win this game by lynching marv. I guarantee you marv isn't all 5 scum players by himself. Yes, this is scum marv, but he's got buddies and we kind of have to catch them too, and just yelling that it's scum marv over and over and over doesn't do that. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
"marv was wrong about foolishness" is not exactly a full summary of the reasons he's mafia. | ||
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austinmcc
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
Vote with me. Kill vivax. | ||
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HiroPro
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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austinmcc
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HiroPro
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Right now, we only have a few votes on him. It is imperative I make sure he gets lynched. You are on my radar for how you've handled this today, Austin. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On March 17 2013 11:35 yamato77 wrote: Marv is only as caught as I can convince town he is. Right now, we only have a few votes on him. It is imperative I make sure he gets lynched. You are on my radar for how you've handled this today, Austin. Question Yam, how sold are you on Marv? 100%? I would bet money on Cross flipping scum, this is in no way at all his town play? Why not take the easy lynch to ensure we're not fucked into tomorrow? If it comes down to Marv vs anyone but Cross I'll go Marv but what worries you about Cross? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
You cut the head off the snake. Lynch the active scum. | ||
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Vivax
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Acrofales
Spain18004 Posts
On March 17 2013 12:24 yamato77 wrote: I haven't filtered him yet, to be honest. But he's lurky as fuck and not an influence in the thread, while Marv is. You cut the head off the snake. Lynch the active scum. If this was D2, I would agree. But it's not. We NEED to lynch scum today. Xfire is a FAR safer bet than Marv. In fact, other than the fact that he is still alive and was wrong about Foolishness I don't really see much reason for a scum Marv at all. I tunneled him excessively in MTG2 and the way you are now forming arguments seems similar to the way I was then. I have learned a lesson: you need to consider the bigger picture with Marv... and at the moment he is simply too active and too involved. You say he hasn't pushed cases, but he pushed Foolishness from the second he suspected Foolish was scum. So then you accuse him of tunneling Foolish, but he spent time analysing Cora, and has made some analyses of other people. *Could* Marv be scum? Yes. But he is far from the most obvious scum, and we need to lynch a sure thing today: we lynch Xfire. As for Marv being scum? If I had to pick the scumteam right now, it would be Xfire, DP, risk.nuke and 2 out of Marv, HiroPro, Yamato and Mocsta. Foolishness was completely convinced Yamato was scum. While I am not completely convinced, I am definitely no longer convinced Yamato is town. That puts him back in the grey area. If Marv continues to not-die, then we kill him. But it is ridiculous to lynch Marv now when there are 5 scum alive and Xfire is completely obviously scum. As for anybody still claiming Cora is scum: I don't think so. It just doesn't make sense with the night KP, and 2 scum vigis seems too much. | ||
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Crossfire99
United States1529 Posts
 so I will be going to bed after this post. I will be around tomorrow to talk some more.I have been rereading a lot, and honestly I don't know what exactly is happening, but I do know that there are very weird abilities. Honestly, right now I actually think we have already killed 2 scum in cora and foolishness. It is what makes the most sense play wise. What doesn't make sense is the flips. I can easily get by there being 5 night kills because we know 1 came from stutters. At most this means that 4 came from scum. This is not entirely unreasonable even if there are only 2 mafia faction kp because cora died. I know specifically from themed game mafia where I was scum, we had only 2 kp but due to roles had 4 people die night 1. We also still had a dayvig, another extra kp, and a conditional suicide bomber type role yet to use. Anyway this is all to say that I think we are still in a decent spot in this and shouldn't panic. The only reason I have some confidence in saying this is because of this post by strong before he died. + Show Spoiler + On March 16 2013 09:35 strongandbig wrote: Kill vivax and sloosh until they explain themselves It sounds to me like there's something that they've been coordinating on outside the thread. Until they explain these comments they should be treated as having claimed scum. ##Vote: Vivax I also do not see how marv is scum right now. Supersoft thought he was scum, but then read his 35 page filter (at the time) and then came to the conclusion that he is town. Austin, I see your trap and walk in willingly because I just don't see marv being scum. You are going to have to have a freakin' good case for me to even consider the fact. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Look at how his "read" on Foolishness developed. He didn't "catch" mafia, or analyse his play, he just blatantly OMGUS'd him and then typed a lot of posts in caps. Other than Foolish, Marv's pushes this game have been weaksauce. Yesterday he said Vivax was mafia, but where is that proclamation now? His vote is on DP, which is a terrible vote with no fucking purpose. He's not even in the thread trying to get people to lynch DP. Think about this game critically. It's obvious Marv is mafia. Cross might be, too, but we should lynch MARV FIRST. | ||
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