Personality Mafia 2

On January 04 2013 10:09 Foolishness wrote:

Scum BC likes to lurk. Scum BC tries to be nice to people. So far haven't seen any of that.

On January 05 2013 07:01 Foolishness wrote:
##Vote: Marvellosity

Save BC!

On January 05 2013 07:35 Foolishness wrote:
<3

I don't know if Hopeless is bored or mafia yet.

The Brown One seems out of character this game. For example:

wtf is this post?

On January 05 2013 07:38 Foolishness wrote:

That makes no sense.

On January 05 2013 10:30 Foolishness wrote:

It's really easy actually.

Here's his filter from this game: This Game

Here's his filter from Mafia XLVII: XLVII

They look pretty similar don't they? Guess what role he was in XLVII?

On January 07 2013 06:58 Foolishness wrote:
Here are two of his filter's from games when he is town:

Witchcraft MINI Mafia

Newbie MINI Mafia XXXII

The first thing one should immediately notice is the amount of times he's posting. In a 13 player game he had an outstanding 23 pages of filter. In a 9 player game (the Newbie game) he had 7 pages of filter in the first cycle (he was killed night 1). This is a guy who likes to post. He likes to be a Bill Murray or Coagulation. He wants to post and respond to everything that's going on. I shouldn't need to tell you that this game he hasn't even had a full page of posts yet.

Though his filter has been mostly one liners it's clear that he does not care about this game. His second most recent post is this:

And he never followed through on his "cooking up". He admitted in one of his earlier posts that he's not contributing:

But he hasn't done anything to try to redeem himself. He does not care. His taunting of us to sheep his lynch is also very disturbing. It doesn't accomplish anything for the town. He did it in the above post and in the following:

What is the purpose of him doing that? It does nothing except draw attention away from himself. He doesn't want attention drawn to himself. He doesn't want anyone calling him out. He does it to make us scared of calling him scum. He wants out of the spotlight because he is mafia.

In the two games he was town I put above, you can clearly see how vested he is in the game. Take one of his posts from witchcraft mini
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Look how excited he is. "THIS IS THE SCUM TEAM GG", "DIE DIE DIE". He's excited to play mafia, more evident by the fact that he posts nonstop. He makes the infrequent long post like the one above calling out his reads. He helps and contributes, and most importantly he speaks exactly what is on his mind. He was never afraid to post before, yet this game he is.

Mr. Cheesecake is mafia.

On July 19 2012 12:31 Foolishness wrote:
Bill Murray!

Think to yourself: is Bill Murray actually Bill Murray this game? It's an easy enough question to answer: no. Because he is mafia. The items that characterize Bill Murray's usual town play are absent from this game. Consequently, it is easy to see that this game matches his mafia behavior.

The running joke on the forum about Bill Murray's alignment is that the more chaos he causes the more likely he is to be town. This has been seen over time as in the far past the games he broke the rules in he was usually town. Even today it is true, he is just much more mature about his posts.

Simply put: Bill Murray is much more spammy in games where he is town. This should make sense; everyone in this game has played with Bill Murray as far as I can see. Recently in Holy Roman where Bill Murray was town, he busted out four pages of posts within the first day alone. In two games where Bill Murray is mafia, Mafia LIII and Mafia LVI, by the end of day 1 he had less than two pages worth of posts (LVI he had about 1, LIII had about 1.5). How many pages of posts does Bill Murray have this game at the end of day 1? Less than 1 page, and closer to half a page than a page.

This may seem a bit out there, but it's certainly significant. When Bill Murray is town he posts twice as much as he does when he's mafia. That's a very noticable difference, especially for Bill Murray who can be very spammy. You shouldn't even have to check his filter to know that he had less than 1 page in his filter by the end of day 1. I know there was a point day 1 where someone made a post like, "wtf Bill Murray is in this game?". Bill Murray loves to ride the inactive train to mafia victory.

Before we do some more comparison to other games, take a look at what Bill Murray has accomplished this game. Needless to say he has been all over the place. This is not uncommon of Bill Murray nor does it strongly indicate his alignment. But his best post this game is probably the one he made against me:

The issue here isn't about what's being said but about when it was said. He is essentially just restating arguments that were already laid out in full by wherebugsgo, syllogism, and sandroba. Bill Murray came late to the game. Has he provided something to the town that's genuine and fresh? No. He waits to see what the town thinks before trying to weigh in a contribution.

But that aside what other posts has Bill Murray made that are of interest this game? One of my favorites is:

We all know apathy is a trait many mafia possess.

Outside of that, it was interesting to watch him go from wanting to kill Chezinu without a second thought:

To thinking he is town the next day:

Outside of all this there's nothing you can say about him. He's done nothing. He said gonzaw was making excuses but never said anything more. He's made a troll post or two. He's defended himself in the typical Bill Murray style (which he does both as town and mafia). He has not helped the town nor has he made any real effort other than jumping the bandwagon on myself.

What's missing from his filter that should be there? Bill Murray when he is town always tries to help in one way or another. The typical way is by calling people out on their bullshit, Bill Murray style. But that hasn't happened this game. In games where he is town Bill Murray always makes long posts in between his one liners and ever-increasing troll posts. For example take this post from Holy Roman mafia (he was town). I spoilered it cause it's long:
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The important part is how he explained his thought process on Acrofales. Note how direct he is in saying what he thinks and how he's actively trying to figure things out. This is the town Bill Murray. We all know that he loves the game and is quite competitive, so posts like these fit right in with what you would expect out of him. When he's mafia, posts like these are absent from his filter. He doesn't actively speak his thoughts or convey his feelings. And that's exactly what he's doing this game as well.

He had other posts where he explained his thought process that game. One of them is very very long so I've omitted it (you'll find it if you look through his filter for that game. Remember he is town here). But you can always find the posts where he explains his reads. In this game it was in list form:
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Another good example of his town play is from Death Factory mafia. It's easy to scroll through and find posts that he makes where he explains his thoughts about other players in the game:
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And again you can find other long posts that are always present in his town play:
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If you look at his mafia games, in particular, Area LIII and LVI, you'll find these long posts are absent. For instance in LVI his longest post was a nice little:

Granted he did get shot night 1. In LIII his longest post was:

Which is nowhere near of the calibre that you see in his town games. Furthermore you can see in this accusation post (remember he is mafia this game) that he only accused MG after others had gone after him (he says so himself in this post). This is easy to see from his filter in that game because this is the first time he's ever talked about MG.

This is exactly what he's done this game. He doesn't make any mention of me, but once a handful of people say I'm mafia he immediately hops aboard the train trying to contribute. Exactly what he did as mafia in LIII with MidnightGladius.

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Summary of why Bill Murray is mafia:
1) Overall inactivity. He hasn't done anything this game. Do any of the posts he's made stick out at you as memorable?
2) Spam level. He's had zero spam this game. There is a noticeable difference in his spamminess when he is town and mafia. This game it is consistent with his mafia play.
3) No long posts. When Bill Murray is town, he makes posts that are paragraphs long. When he is mafia he never does such a thing. This game he hasn't made a post longer than ~5 sentences.
4) Lack of thoughts or accusations. When he is town he is not afraid to call someone out or make a long (relative to him) accusation post. When he is mafia he is all aboard the sheep train. He even said in a post that he is sheeping and in another post that he thinks sheeping is good for the town.

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Obviously have to take care of more pressing mafia first.
##Vote: Kurumi

On March 11 2013 03:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
Perhaps you all know this old saying that I am about to invoke.

It is well known, but often bastardized. I will set this straight now.

Imagine we now live in a long past age. Our language is the language of the Sages. In this language of the wise, the ending "mi" roughly translates into "the little." It is a dimunitive title, used most commonly for the apprentice of a wizard. The evil ones are rough, but the sages are not. There is no aural difference, merely in our script. If we were to transliterate to the modern language of the flock, it would be the difference between the letters "f" and "ph," or "c" and "s" and "z," or, in our case, the difference between "C" and "K".

In the past, a member of The Great Ones was old Curu, also known as The Cunning. Curu had a duality and the propensity to delve into evil, but on the whole acted as one of the influential Sages of our past. In the language of the wise, Curu means "goose", although "Curumi" means "duck." Oddly enough, "Uruc" (ooroos) translates into "mouse", and "Uruk" (oorook) is "rat". When we add a dimunitive, with "soft" letters such as "c", a vowel is added. "Uruc" becomes "Urucimi". With "hard" letters, the end vowel must be moved to the front to facilitate the dimunitive. Thus, from "Uruk" we get "Kurumi."

I have thus discovered the true meaning behind the name of the impostor.

After all, the old saying is that, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is most definitely a rat.

On March 12 2013 02:40 wherebugsgo wrote:



Hello, oh sparkly one. I wish I could see in colors!

The dog does not understand your slowness. Perhaps the sparkles are too much? Please, do not pay attention to the tail. It can be very distracting.

*woof woof*

Let me tell you a story, that I had told our crocodile friend. Mr Crocodile, I asked him, what would you do if you were the last crocodilian to live? Sorry, I suppose that is not specific enough. What if someone else said they were the last crocodilian?

I am the one true dog. There is no other dog. No other woofs and pants and licks and wags like me. The rat said he was the true dog. This made the dog angry.

Do you understand now, oh sparkly one? Surely you have realized-there cannot be two dogs.

I also smelled, that the impostor rat seemed oddly...familiar. Do you know of the Hindus? It was like that, as if the rat wanted to be an elephant. But that the elephant wasn't satisfactory, so he chose to try to become a dog.

I know this is all confusing, but let me put it this way: in a past life, I believe I had a trunk. I still sometimes feel the urge to snort water.

Remember, I am the one true dog. You may choose to put me down today, put me out of my misery. I am okay with that. Sometimes the dog must make the sacrifice for the greater good. However I do not think that you would be very happy with me afterward. You would see that then I would have been more useful in your service. As a guide doc, perhaps-to lead the blind and the ugly. And to bring in the chickens and herd sheep.

On March 11 2013 06:32 strongandbig wrote:


BIG CASE EVERYONE READ MY BIG CASE

also did anyone tell foolishness the game has started? He's not living up to his position as
If he keeps letting us down, he could be in danger of a mob attack...

On March 11 2013 13:14 Foolishness wrote:
And it is so on this brightest of white days that I stroll into Personality Town. I clutch the assignment paper in my pocket as I walk into the main parts of the town. The paper that was handed to me not moments ago from the gate guard Greymist. Though I had arrived late to the town, I had already knew exactly where I was proceeding to; a destination known, but not known for I had only just arrived and getting my bearings down would take some effort.

But on the right side of the street I came across a wonderful grove; full of vibrant trees that radiated through the yard. I stopped for a moment to take in the scene. I was not the only one so moved by the scenery, as many people buzzed through their way through the many trees. Not a minute had passed before a fine gentleman approached the grove as well. Though I gave him no inclination to, he stood beside me and struck up conversation.

"They are cherry pickers you see," he said, pointing at the people wandering in and out of the grove.
"Cherry pickers?" I asked.
"Yes," BloodyC0bbler replied. "But they only pick cherries. Ask them to pick from the apple trees, and you will be met with resistance."
"That must make it difficult to accomplish anything."
"Aye. You best be moving on. If you stare too long you too will succumb to the ripe taste of the cherry. And then we will have lost another soul."
"But what about you?" I questioned him.
"I am the shepherd of these people. It is my job to lead them down the path of the scumhunt; to steer them away from the cherry trees. They are my responsibility."

Without another word I departed the poor man and made my way down the street. And I wondered about the shepherd as I walked. Surely his cause is noble, but is that all there is too it? For a few minutes I pondered this question as I walked, until I came across a man sitting on a bench.

"Excuse me," I asked the man, "could you tell me where I can find the house of Vivax?"
"Ahhh, the house of Vivax you say? Well I could not know where anything is in this town. You see I am blind, and I have not interest where anything is in this town during my stay," Ver replied.
"Blind?!?!" I was shocked at this finding. "But how can you possibly hope to accomplish anything?"
"Oh ho ho sir! You only think to see with your eyes. But you have other senses with which you can see. You must learn to use all your senses in this town, not just what you see with your eyes. And then you will see! You will see that there is much to learn from your other sense. Why I have learned so much in this short time without my eyes. Sometimes, your eyes bias your mind, and you see things that are not really there. You only see them because your mind wants to. I do not have such issues. And thus, what I see is truly......pure."

Truly pure. I was at a loss for words from his short speech. What could I say to that? I gave a quick goodbye and went on my way, pondering his vision about seeing; seeing what is right in front of you, seeing without your eyes. Was I seeing things that weren't really there? Was I just seeing them because my mind wanted to see them? I ducked into a coffee shop and parked myself at a table.

I looked back through notes of the case. Except this time, I did not read with my eyes, but I read with my mind. And I saw something different this time. I saw what couldn't be seen with my eyes. I saw exactly what I needed to see. It was beyond what I saw the first time, the first time with my eyes. I saw a depth that was previously not there. I saw all the motivation (or lack of it), all of the ineptitude, all through a hidden agenda. It was...pure.

With the knowledge of my mind lingering in my head, I packed up my things and continued on my way; destination in hand, more determined than ever.

##Vote: Vivax

On March 13 2013 22:34 supersoft wrote:
You have to be trolling me right now.
Seriously, lynch Foolish day3 if it pleases you. Not today. The fact that you even consider lynching the guy, who just nuked the guy who gives town the most information if he dies, drives me crazy.

It's just dumb to kill Foolish before the shot goes through.
We're in no rush with that. We can easily wait for the additional information.

i will take that into my signature.

On March 16 2013 02:54 slOosh wrote:

Ah yes. Scum Cora & Foolishness pulled an elaborate ploy to lynch himself to fool everyone's reads, and had it not been for your keen insight we would have been deluded into thinking he could have been town. Why, even the mods were fooled!

Why, you exposed my dastardly plot to use corazon's alignment to draw false conclusions, before I even made any such posts!

Bravo marv, you are the hero that this town needs.

On March 15 2013 03:21 austinmcc wrote:
WEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEE

THIS IS THE THREAD POLICE. COME OUT WITH YOUR HANDS UP. SERIOUSLY, GET YOUR HANDS OFF THE KEYBOARD. PUT THEM UP. DO NOT PUT THEM BACK ON THE KEYBOARD.

FACT: This thread is full of A LOT of nonsense today.
FACT: Threads full of nonsense are bad for town.
OPINION: If you read a Vivax post that is ridiculous/nonsensical/flip-floppy/etc. and you want to comment on it, DO NOT
OPINION: If you read a Vivax post that is actually logical, pursuing a read that makes any kind of sense at all to you, then feel free to agree/disagree/discuss that comment, and not deal with anything else he says
OPINION: Associations based on flips/votes that have happened are SOMEWHAT OKAY, associations based on who might flip what if they weren't so alive are NOT OKAY.


There has been so much crap filling the thread today about Yamato/marv/foolish/peter pan/vivax/dick cancer and it's running us around in circles. Tbh, I really only want to read the following things:
[list][*]admissions of stealing prplhz's vote
[*]any reads of darthpunk's
[*]anything that supersoft says
[*]DI and iamperfection's comments on stuff that isn't yamato/marv/foolish/vivax
[*]posts wherein someone discovers CRAZY SCUMSLIPS THE SIZE OF THE MOON, and maybe the size of THREE MOONS if it concerns marv/foolishness/yamato
[*]posts from promethelax, who has been super absent today

But seriously, can we just save all the comments on what we will think/do if someone flips whatever for when someone flips whatever or not whatever? Cuz that's kind of the time they actually mean anything. We should be discussing this lynch like rational people that want a legible thread, but we are actually doing such a poor job with that that it feels like we would be better served to not even discuss the lynch.

For emphasis. So much of this discussion is so shitty and repetitive and full of nothing that it feels as if it would be better for us, as a town, to NOT DISCUSS A LYNCH. That is ridiculous.