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btw I intend to roleplay my personality as best as I can. Please don't hate me if I suddenly develop a massive ego | ||
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On March 10 2013 14:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Anyway...I think yamato's little performance was cute and everything, but I'm not convinced. ##Vote: yamato77 OMGUS bish wut? hello dear. what do you find unconvincing about yamato? | ||
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On March 10 2013 15:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Re: Yamato His early posting came across as "Look how much I hate scum guys GRRRRR!" and coupled with his perceived change of demeanor since being called down reads as overly diplomatic. Hence, the vote. @Ver Interesting if true! You leave yourself open to mafia manipulation if you're town though, but I imagine it's all part of the game to you. Judging by your post on the matter, it seems as if you're going to be pushing an agenda that punishes poor play rather than scummy play. Am I misunderstanding your intentions here? interesting cupcake. the heart king is tickling my fancy more right now. shall we start some shennanies together? ##Vote cDgCorazon | ||
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On March 08 2013 21:59 kitaman27 wrote: The OP has been updated. I've removed the following statement: As with any game, role claiming will have consequences, however this statement kind of contradicts with the spirit of the game, hindering role playing if you are worried about revealing your personality. There will not be a conditional vig based on role identities present in this game. | ||
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at the moment, i'm leaning towards kurumi. in particular notice what kurumi says after he has gotten his role (but before his alignment), "this sucks". kurumi is a player who likes to play around and troll frequently. it's very unlikely that he would be unhappy about receiving chezinu as a role. the logical conclusion is that kurumi is a faker. ##Vote Kurumi also to the people who don't understand why i would ask everyone to just flat out say who they are. this is in part because my personality dislikes shennanies like what's going on right now. it's not something that i care about personally much. | ||
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On March 11 2013 03:07 risk.nuke wrote: I remember seeing a split personality role in the first game and there can be other explenations. Hwv you forgotten how to play mafia. We lynch the scummiest today. This doesn't mean we can't lynch one of them just that we're not going to be so stupid we lynch them because of that reason. We can deal with their claims later. That split personality role had a severe post restriction and was forced to target its other side correct? Judging from what Kita has said about the post restrictions in this game, a role like that is pretty much impossible. Also you're missing one very important thing. In what world would Kurumi be unhappy about receiving Chezinu as a role? He wouldn't. | ||
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On March 11 2013 04:59 Crossfire99 wrote: Yo, be easy and stop buggin folks. True, dis game be tight, but we don't want dis gettin outta hand and turnin into beef. Aight, I'mma lay dis down fo yo. Votin for non-alignment reasons be wack. Na mean? Role playin be dope and errbody should be crunk bout it. man what are you talking about. it's not about kurumi roleplaying. it's about the fact that he was lying about who he was. he has admitted that he was lying so it looks a little better than if he tried to go with what risk.nuke came up with. but there is a clear mafia motivation in trying to fake a hard-to-read personality like Chezinu. | ||
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##Vote Stutters695 Forget about kurumi. if he's confirmed town then there is no point in talking about him. lynch the commentator. his filter is short so i will not bother even quoting. all he can do is ask meaningless questions and complain about how people treat him. he has no opinions on anything of value. | ||
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On March 11 2013 09:11 Vivax wrote: It was probably yamato who had to announce his shot in some way on the target. With this, he's up for lynch. @ Hiro Hiro thoughts on Corazon? i'm leaning scum on him. his aggression appears fake to me and the only person he seems willing to talk about is yamato yet his case is meaningless. | ||
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On March 11 2013 09:27 Promethelax wrote: well Hiro, you are bad in that case Kurumi was town: totes and blates there was nothing about him which said scum unless you don't read or are dumb. so why would you kill him? Please relate. in death note i shot hapahauli even though i was certain he was town simply because he was destroying the thread. there is nothing wrong with eliminating someone who wants to die, is clogging up the thread, and announces that they have a bastard role. | ||
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On March 11 2013 10:58 strongandbig wrote: After oats, wbg is pretty clearly the next best lynch target. His rambling aside, the resolution to this kurumi thing do not make him look good at all. man what does this even mean. you thought kurumi was suspicious also right? so why does kurumi flipping a bastard town role make you more suspicious of bugs? | ||
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On March 11 2013 11:17 Promethelax wrote: have you played with this man in the past? He is always as green as the grass, his posting is weak his play style meek but he is nothing more than useless, a pain in the ass. you have a recent game for me to look at? | ||
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On March 12 2013 01:24 Dandel Ion wrote: Read the travesty that was Themed. He didn't even post there from a certain point onwards, he just ninja-voted and was generally a very, very useless person. And that after MTG where he played okay, even by non-lurker standards. Policy lynching him is chill and all, but saying that he doesn't pull that shit as town is wrong. Why don't you go after a lurker that's actually guaranteed to be scum, namely Crossfire. If yiu have some great reason thent ell me what it is because i have not see anything from you on why crossifire is mafia. Quote me posts please for stutters mtg it is such a pain to go through on my phone. | ||
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To answerr vivax, right now i am thinking about killing corazon and sloosh also. But I thijk it is best to stick to one candidate when we have this kind of mess. I will rewad moire cosely and decided oncer i get to a computer | ||
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On March 12 2013 03:30 wherebugsgo wrote: Oh great Hero, please explain to the dog. The dog disagrees. While the dog is chasing cats, the imperfect one is quiet. The dog is used to seeing the imperfect one. The dog smells funny things when the imperfect one is absent. It isd they way in which he speaks dog. He is confident and wanted so be head even idf he doesnt say much. you can check of yourself aperture 2 is ag od bbet just the very tone and manner is quite different when hie s mafia. alsooi it is quite badf to speark of such things when they still happens the herio knows buts the perfecet oen did get modkilled recetnly, so a little more quit is expected. | ||
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Thats woudl ber bad foir me i stills goyt thinhgs to do only a liitle bit. | ||
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#Unove ##Voite sloish | ||
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But in other news guess what this guy flipped! + Show Spoiler + On January 04 2013 10:09 Foolishness wrote: Scum BC likes to lurk. Scum BC tries to be nice to people. So far haven't seen any of that. On January 05 2013 07:01 Foolishness wrote: ##Vote: Marvellosity Save BC! On January 05 2013 07:35 Foolishness wrote: <3 I don't know if Hopeless is bored or mafia yet. The Brown One seems out of character this game. For example: wtf is this post? On January 05 2013 10:30 Foolishness wrote: It's really easy actually. Here's his filter from this game: This Game Here's his filter from Mafia XLVII: XLVII They look pretty similar don't they? Guess what role he was in XLVII? On January 07 2013 06:58 Foolishness wrote: Here are two of his filter's from games when he is town: Witchcraft MINI Mafia Newbie MINI Mafia XXXII The first thing one should immediately notice is the amount of times he's posting. In a 13 player game he had an outstanding 23 pages of filter. In a 9 player game (the Newbie game) he had 7 pages of filter in the first cycle (he was killed night 1). This is a guy who likes to post. He likes to be a Bill Murray or Coagulation. He wants to post and respond to everything that's going on. I shouldn't need to tell you that this game he hasn't even had a full page of posts yet. Though his filter has been mostly one liners it's clear that he does not care about this game. His second most recent post is this: And he never followed through on his "cooking up". He admitted in one of his earlier posts that he's not contributing: But he hasn't done anything to try to redeem himself. He does not care. His taunting of us to sheep his lynch is also very disturbing. It doesn't accomplish anything for the town. He did it in the above post and in the following: What is the purpose of him doing that? It does nothing except draw attention away from himself. He doesn't want attention drawn to himself. He doesn't want anyone calling him out. He does it to make us scared of calling him scum. He wants out of the spotlight because he is mafia. In the two games he was town I put above, you can clearly see how vested he is in the game. Take one of his posts from witchcraft mini + Show Spoiler + On December 22 2012 07:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: THIS WAS TYPED UP QUICKLY, DON'T EXPECT TOO MUCH ORGANIZATION, BUT MY OPINION STANDS. I'M ABOUT TO ASK KUSH TO VOTE JX WITH ME. HE KNOWS HE WILL FLIP TOWN. THEN TOWN LYNCHES ME / DJO = SCUMWIN. IF KUSH VOTES WITH ME FOR JX -- EYWA / KUSH SCUMTEAM GG Don't flatter yourself. The only thing I saw was a meta case which was questionable and his reluctance to lynch DYH. I truly believe Djo is Innocent, I cannot pair him up with a scumbuddy. Do JX / Eywa make sense? No, he's pushed for the lynch of JX hardcore and flamed with Eywa, who even called him part of the scumteam. Do I make sense? Yes, I do, but I'm town. Djo's only "scummy quality" is his reluctance to lynch DYH. That's it. If I recall, didn't KUSH actively attempt to PREVENT the DYH lynch? Trying to protect his scumbuddy. FAKECLAIM! Calling it right now. You want to know why he was SAFE to fakeclaim? Nobody else claimed. He was trying to see if any town were empowered by witchcraft. Thrawn also was likely to be witchcrafted, since I think at least 2 people voted for him. He also knows that at least I voted for him. He is completely safe to make this fakeclaim -- A scry on DYH. And DYH just happened to be the priest, how convenient. The entire situation just seems to convenient for Kush. He didn't even breadcrumb the god-damned check. Then, he tries to push a mislynch, JX. Look at his reasons for voting JX... 100% knew morb was town... SO DID EYWA. Cases built on terrible reasoning... EYWA MORESO. Why does he want to lynch JX over Eywa? Because he's his scumbuddy. Look at his hard-defense of Eywa. Think about it: Does Kush EVER defend people like this? First time forum mafia game my ass, so what. Normal Kush wouldn't give a damn. Kush's case on Djo is OKAY to say the least, but it hinges on only one thing: reluctance to lynch DYH. Kush was SO MUCH MORE reluctant, trying to push another mislynch, and only bussing at the very last second. Why does he think Eywa is town?? Mad that he's getting pressured? Eywa Kush scumteam. And look at this BS: Let's see, everyone that is dead and someone that claims to have powers. lol. DJO HAS PUSHED JX ALL GAME LONG HOW CAN THEY BE SCUMTEAM?!!? Anyone that's not Eywa. Eywa / Kush scumteam. Kush has done nothing this game besides push for the lynch of Djo and hard defend Eywa. This fakeclaim bullshit shouldn't instantly make him town. Both Eywa and Kush fit the profile of not wanting to lynch DYH. Kush hard defends Eywa, and attacks Djo for acting the SAME exact way he was during the lynch. Kush never pushes Eywa despite him doing the exact same "scummy things" as JieXian. I can't emphasize how badly I think they are scumteam. Eywa / JX makes sense, so does Kush / Eywa. Gotta lynch me a Eywa today. I can't put together any scumteam that excludes Eywa. My vote stays. I'll go Kush if possible, but Eywa is friggen 100% scum. ##Unvote: ##Vote: Eywa EYWA + KUSH SCUMTEAM DIE DIE DIE Ask me anything about this scumteam right here. I've got more ammo in the chamber for any questions. Kill them. Look how excited he is. "THIS IS THE SCUM TEAM GG", "DIE DIE DIE". He's excited to play mafia, more evident by the fact that he posts nonstop. He makes the infrequent long post like the one above calling out his reads. He helps and contributes, and most importantly he speaks exactly what is on his mind. He was never afraid to post before, yet this game he is. Mr. Cheesecake is mafia. | ||
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On March 13 2013 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Crossfire. Who has links for me? I'm not familiar with his play, and I don't know what games he's played. He played in Aperture 2, it was kind of a weird game and he was a member of a hidden 2nd scum team. | ||
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On March 13 2013 03:15 austinmcc wrote: Was away for a moment, noticed slOosh talk. I checked Personality 1 because I thought there'd been a role that had to tunnel someone and only post on them. Didn't find it, but maybe skipped over. Is there anyone known for just fighting with MZ every game they're in? I agree with slOosh being a futureproblem, but his activity being ONLY to tunnel made me think that perhaps it's a personality limitation, despite most personalities in this game not coming with the same extreme limitations that they came with in 1. Couldn't find a particular role, but if there's a player known for fighting with MZ, or a player known just for tunneling, it's a possible explanation (that doesn't say anything about his alignment ) there is almost no chance of such a role. kita said that post restrictions would be far less severe. even chezinu didn't have one as far as I could see lol. | ||
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On March 13 2013 03:20 marvellosity wrote: Does anyone else find it weird he talks about himself in 3rd person here? I know people do so occasionally but I've never seen slOosh do it I don't think. I don't think it means anything tbh. | ||
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bc tell us about people other than yamto and ver. i already know what you say about them. you are familar with supersoft? what do you think of him. | ||
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On March 13 2013 07:19 marvellosity wrote: where did he say this? i was involved in this game and in that QT and as far as I remember his argument was that Palmar was playing anti-town *and was therefore mafia*. He says this both in-game and in the QT i cannot find eact quote its too big search on phoen but i definetly remember 100% he said that diddnt matter if palmar dropped town tells or if other people knew he was town best to just kill him. | ||
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On March 13 2013 09:04 iamperfection wrote: do you have a case you wish to make.? I DARE YOU TO TRY AND MAKE ONE. i will nopt write big but my point will be clrea . olok at postsa i quoted eralier from him in his lsat scuim game (lviii). verty simple meta readfs wherte he doesnt consider a pertson fully, it almosdt impossible to sayu that yamato in fruioty is similar to this. when he is topwn much morew effort in finding mafia he iks like besty town plasyer i have evert seen play very involveds clear to see his intrest his explanationds are detailed and ropck soild. inm liar game he dieewed quickly and was pm game so whoil game is notr good compariosiopn but look aty the caser he makes on chaoser and compare notice the motivatiopns he brings up none ofs that here, noitice the attention to detail. even inb his othert posts yooiu can tell he is thinking and explsainging clearly what he thinks and why. askl yourserlf is thio person interesded in whaty is happening in town or is he just poppingr in with little snippet and then leaving, should be veryu clear. | ||
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let's lynch foolish. Also I refuse to believe that the guy who posted this has nothing to do with this: [QUOTE]Anyhoo, I'm gonna remedy this as best I can tonight cuz I'm the Warlock Techies, and I'ma blowing up (lolol) all the baddies with me. Of course the hosts don't know anything about balance (lolol) so it's not so simple as ##suicide: baddies, but I hope to take a couple down with me. Hopefully they turn out scummers, but in worst case I take out mislynches and lurkers. I need to regen some mana but everything should pan out by midcycle (24 hours) into day 2 - if not you can feel free to try to lynch my charred remains :D[/QUOTE | ||
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let's lynch foolish. Also I refuse to believe that the guy who posted this has nothing to do with this: Anyhoo, I'm gonna remedy this as best I can tonight cuz I'm the Warlock Techies, and I'ma blowing up (lolol) all the baddies with me. Of course the hosts don't know anything about balance (lolol) so it's not so simple as ##suicide: baddies, but I hope to take a couple down with me. Hopefully they turn out scummers, but in worst case I take out mislynches and lurkers. I need to regen some mana but everything should pan out by midcycle (24 hours) into day 2 - if not you can feel free to try to lynch my charred remains :D | ||
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a nuke's origin and target can be traced easily unlike a gun. bullets cant be stopped if the giver doesn't like the target. i don't buy this power. sloosh is lying about something. claim your role in full now sloosh. | ||
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On March 14 2013 04:20 marvellosity wrote: Crossfire is shooting at someone I'm convinced is mafia. good. Mafia is shooting at someone I think is town. Vivax is batshit insane. We're done. I agree with this message. Lynch foolish. | ||
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On March 14 2013 04:50 austinmcc wrote: Actually, you look townie enough now that I don't need to play this game for you. All this nuke stuff works to differentiate yourself from the pack. HiroPro, I choose YOU. Play my game. Thoughts on acrofales? i am leaning town. I dont agree with some of the stuff he is saying (on Foolish especially), but he feels very genuine to me in the small tidbits he discusses. I choose prplhz for you. | ||
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On March 14 2013 05:37 austinmcc wrote: Seems to only mention recent events, and doesn't say anything specific. Care to substantiate your thoughts with references to actual posts? But, let's continue, because prplhz himself looks scummy, and yet he's the guy you chose. He looks NULL because of his posts about wbg D1. He kind of egged on votes on wbg, while not being convinced himself. However, he only did that with people who were scummy on wbg, so I can't tell whether he's legitimately trying to force people to vote with the reads they give, or whether he's just trying to get votes onto someone who wasn't mafia. This post looks mildly townie He looks I DON'T EFFING KNOW for sheeping all the time: + Show Spoiler + On March 12 2013 07:41 prplhz wrote: I posted the useful things I have. You'll agree that this thread doesn't need another huge dumb filter. cDgCorazon doesn't need me to hold his hand for him to prove his own innocence, he'll do a lot better without that. When did I ever even talk to a scum read after voting? I don't care much if cDgCorazon is getting lynched, I don't have a huge scum read in him, your case on him was just the best case in this thread so far. I'll notify you if the thread is trying to lynch one of my town reads (such as yamato77) but other than that, I don't care much for day1. On March 14 2013 01:42 prplhz wrote: okay i'll ask you WTF is going on? i don't have any big reads right now. i have town reads and then i have marv's reads and that's kind of it. i wish people would slow down. we have 120 pages in one day, and we have a ton of new content right now (roles being used). there's no way everybody spamming away in this thread has thought everything through and read everything thoroughly so please slow down and go back and reevaluate. i know that's what i want to do right now. Sheep's marv's case on cora D1. D2 has town reads and "marv's reads" and that's it. **Actually, he looks scummy for this specific bitRereading this over and over makes it ... scummy or role-dependant? Even if you have a townread on marv, it's super scummy not to share what scumreads of his you share and why, but instead to just claim you're sheeping his reads 100%. Unless his role requires him to do that, and we haven't seen anything as restrictive as "you must always vote for a player that x thinks if mafia." This is scummy. He looks scummier for this: Again, this is really important. Someone stole his vote. HIS VOTE. There's that stupid line in some of the OPs or the PMs when you'e a VT about how all you have is your voice and your vote. His vote is gone. Does he really care? No. He just casually states it's gone. Does he seem upset by this? Does he try and figure out who did this? Does this impact how he views Vivax? Nope, just "Hai gaiz, my vote has been placed on vivax, see ya." That's both not a townie response to being the target of a votesteal AND it's downplaying something that is important. It's wifomy as to who stole whose vote and put it on whom, what parts of that are mafia's doing, but it's an important thing that happened and it's very likely that scum did the vote stealing because nobody has claimed it. I liked his bringing up BC. I liked the points he made. That case felt legitimate, there was work that went into it, digging up things that BC had said in the past. Minor townie points for prplhz, even with BC flipping town, because it felt like it took some time, and because, assuming mafia shot BC, it was effort put into a case on a guy that they were going to kill. Please do prplhz yourself. Also, prplhz...any explanation for why the vote-steal doesn't seem to have mattered to you? Sure, I can explain. The thing he has with Ver in the beginning, he has this weird kind of relationship with drazerk (kinda like s&b does) and it feels very real when he brings that up and compares it. I don't agree with parts of the argument he uses in talking about yamato in terms of not being a scum role, but it feels like the dumb stuff he is interested in (really reminds me of the fascination he had with adam being third party). I have prpl as town on two things: the fact that he revealed what his role is, i think it's very unlikely considering how often he gets lynched, that as mafia he would reveal that. also he tends to kinda idolize vets and I think it's very unlikely he would go after BC as mafia. | ||
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his case on marvel is mostly just either misrepresentation or does not even have anything to do with being mafia. notice how he ignores the game that is similar in style to this (LVIII) and instead focuses on a much older game, notice how he cherrypicks posts from parallel worlds that appear very calm and collected in the "trap" part and ignores the more emotional stuff. kill foolishness. also does anyone even remember that stutters is playing in this game? he has not mentioned a single thing about what is going on today or taken a stance on whether foolishness is scum, only dropped in twice to say nothing. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On July 19 2012 12:31 Foolishness wrote: Bill Murray! Think to yourself: is Bill Murray actually Bill Murray this game? It's an easy enough question to answer: no. Because he is mafia. The items that characterize Bill Murray's usual town play are absent from this game. Consequently, it is easy to see that this game matches his mafia behavior. The running joke on the forum about Bill Murray's alignment is that the more chaos he causes the more likely he is to be town. This has been seen over time as in the far past the games he broke the rules in he was usually town. Even today it is true, he is just much more mature about his posts. Simply put: Bill Murray is much more spammy in games where he is town. This should make sense; everyone in this game has played with Bill Murray as far as I can see. Recently in Holy Roman where Bill Murray was town, he busted out four pages of posts within the first day alone. In two games where Bill Murray is mafia, Mafia LIII and Mafia LVI, by the end of day 1 he had less than two pages worth of posts (LVI he had about 1, LIII had about 1.5). How many pages of posts does Bill Murray have this game at the end of day 1? Less than 1 page, and closer to half a page than a page. This may seem a bit out there, but it's certainly significant. When Bill Murray is town he posts twice as much as he does when he's mafia. That's a very noticable difference, especially for Bill Murray who can be very spammy. You shouldn't even have to check his filter to know that he had less than 1 page in his filter by the end of day 1. I know there was a point day 1 where someone made a post like, "wtf Bill Murray is in this game?". Bill Murray loves to ride the inactive train to mafia victory. Before we do some more comparison to other games, take a look at what Bill Murray has accomplished this game. Needless to say he has been all over the place. This is not uncommon of Bill Murray nor does it strongly indicate his alignment. But his best post this game is probably the one he made against me: The issue here isn't about what's being said but about when it was said. He is essentially just restating arguments that were already laid out in full by wherebugsgo, syllogism, and sandroba. Bill Murray came late to the game. Has he provided something to the town that's genuine and fresh? No. He waits to see what the town thinks before trying to weigh in a contribution. But that aside what other posts has Bill Murray made that are of interest this game? One of my favorites is: We all know apathy is a trait many mafia possess. Outside of that, it was interesting to watch him go from wanting to kill Chezinu without a second thought: To thinking he is town the next day: Outside of all this there's nothing you can say about him. He's done nothing. He said gonzaw was making excuses but never said anything more. He's made a troll post or two. He's defended himself in the typical Bill Murray style (which he does both as town and mafia). He has not helped the town nor has he made any real effort other than jumping the bandwagon on myself. What's missing from his filter that should be there? Bill Murray when he is town always tries to help in one way or another. The typical way is by calling people out on their bullshit, Bill Murray style. But that hasn't happened this game. In games where he is town Bill Murray always makes long posts in between his one liners and ever-increasing troll posts. For example take this post from Holy Roman mafia (he was town). I spoilered it cause it's long: + Show Spoiler + On May 10 2012 21:20 Bill Murray wrote: I'm going to man up on this one, because I honestly feel I need to 1) you are misguided town 2) you are in a position of power therefore you are misguided town in a position of power therefore you can fuck us over with an indecision... or hurt us... and oh, baby, don't hurt me don't hurt me, no more. when you said "Your wall post is decent because it reveals a lot of information about you ", how does it do that? You said that it doesn't reveal information about who I'm posting about, but you contradict that later when you say you agree with my scumhunting and reads You say "As town, I must always be aware that someone playing scummy might still be a delusional town.", which is true, but it can work both ways. Someone who is not only acting pro-town, but acting pro-town as town, can be delusional town. look at yourself you're "all over the place" even in this one post, whereas I have not contradicted myself once in terms of how I feel about things. What people do, in terms of their actions, speak louder than their words. Acrofales, I expected you to write me off as town due to my effort, but your obtuseness, your parroting of my point earlier, and your inability to address that has me questioning having sent your name in as emperor, and you being town. I'm honestly regretting it right now, and I should have gone with my first instinct. I'd have rather voted for that annoying cube than you right now. Ok, why does scum have a good reason to shoot you? Because you were the only person making wall posts? You said yourself you're active as both town and scum... how, then, does that confirm you at all? hint: it doesn't It's definitely a good ability for scum to be able to blue snipe, even deductively, depending on who they flip I'm glad Zelblade called Acrofales a noobie before I did I was starting to feel like I'm just sleep deprived in having a village idiot read on him Acrofales, you think people are voting you because of your walls? They're not. They're voting you because of your claim. Unlike them, however, I don't stick to reads, and you definitely parroted me Yeah. You made a good catch on that, possibly. I actually speculated something about this, but I don't want to give away too much information. Ask me about it when I wake up. marry carolus mafnus The important part is how he explained his thought process on Acrofales. Note how direct he is in saying what he thinks and how he's actively trying to figure things out. This is the town Bill Murray. We all know that he loves the game and is quite competitive, so posts like these fit right in with what you would expect out of him. When he's mafia, posts like these are absent from his filter. He doesn't actively speak his thoughts or convey his feelings. And that's exactly what he's doing this game as well. He had other posts where he explained his thought process that game. One of them is very very long so I've omitted it (you'll find it if you look through his filter for that game. Remember he is town here). But you can always find the posts where he explains his reads. In this game it was in list form: + Show Spoiler + On May 11 2012 07:46 Bill Murray wrote: Alright. Acrofales may not be parroting me, and might be genuine still. Considering he is going to be the Emperor, there is no point in gunning there I am much more suspicious of OpZ/Carolus/Mattchew of the recent posters that I formerly had town reads on People that were scummy that aren't as bad include Forumite, Drazerk, and MG Mattchew - town A.T.L.A.S. - town P-Body - not touching with a 10 foot pole until someone will decode Laika - lurking dog Companion Cube - want to lynch if i dont see scumhunting; too focused on buddying OpZ - scum via meta Adam4167 - dont believe ive seen much from him, but ive seen him play as town before, so i should be ok U - town YES_THIS_IS_DOG - lurker/inactive The_Bard - good taste in music, but other than that, very null Carolus Magnus - scum QuickSilver7 - town Mr. Potatohead - lurking scum Itouchyou - lurking town Hassybaby - scum Drazerk - town Strongandbig - town Vaderseven - v7 is in this game? Quatol - lurker, one post saying they needed to read the thread Bluelightz - town Zelblade - town Sinani206 - town Kurumi - town erandor - town Acrofales - town MajuGarzett - town Forumite - town Jitsu - town bagmanager - scum Bill Murray - town so i have like 5-6 scum naturally... i am not 100%, but this is just general Another good example of his town play is from Death Factory mafia. It's easy to scroll through and find posts that he makes where he explains his thoughts about other players in the game: + Show Spoiler + On April 04 2012 20:24 Bill Murray wrote: Syllogism - I want to test Cephiro's hard-softclaim. He isn't outright claiming any investigative ability, whether, if he has it or not, it is multiple or single use, or anything, but his softclaim was as close to a guilty claim as I have seen in a long time. I don't want to not test that. PRP - Like syllo, I feel like his interactions with WBG, and the way he responded to the Cephiro ordeal, is pretty damning. I am willing to lynch him off of associative tells, but I'd like to flip syllo first. Tobon - Though he has been looking better, with his defense being "noone has made a case on me, therefore I can't be scum", and all the flak he has gotten, he has my eyebrows raised. Bluelightz - I really wouldn't mind losing him, even if he is town. He is not a VI, I don't think, so I feel like he is playing dumb as scum. I am not sure, however, that he isn't a little kid that wanders, lost, into the middle of the movie theatre... but with an AK. And again you can find other long posts that are always present in his town play: + Show Spoiler + On April 04 2012 20:37 Bill Murray wrote: Either way we need to get the above four out of here. I would want to wait until the lights come back on, and I'm kind of scared to do anything due to VE dying... If your interaction with syllo wasn't completely 100% scummy, I would feel like you were town WBG. I do have a leaned townread on you, but it's not 100% like I felt about Palmar, because you could potentially be throwing syllogism under the bus. I only say this because your questioning of him felt too good, to where it looked like an act. If you're really that good, and that was the building up, and prelude of a great case, bravo. We haven't been using our PoPs correctly. Now, I'm not a dictator, as I'm not confirmed or anything like an innocent child (definitely not bluelightz lol), so I'm not going to boss people around in a "Soviet Russia make you push or pull like want" way, only sort of. We need to hold people accountable, loosen up, and ask people questions. Scum will eventually become illogical... it wears on you being scum. Here's to hoping so, at least. reasons you should believe I'm town: 1) I actually want our next course of action to be to consolidate pushes or pulls around what Snarf wants to do, but I know the thread won't go for it, and would lash out against me, so I'm not touching it with a ten-foot-pole. 2) proposing someone else leads versus myself... kind of having second thoughts on that, though 3) personal meta of lack of night posting, whereas, as scum, i'd post in the night /wifom Honestly, though, I can't really be sure snarfs is town... 1) Godfather 2) I could be naive 4) I could be ... no, VE flipped town... I can't be insane... not in the game at least :D ...A role changing ability, or busdriver only the first two are valid, where my ability was day use However, I feel comfortable leading myself, if you all aren't satisfied listening to Snarfs. I'm not saying to not scumhunt, and to turn into sheep. I'm just saying that people are really looking to be prone to wasting their pushes and pulls without any sense of order, which allows for scum to blend in, and that should be our first mission as a town to prevent If you look at his mafia games, in particular, Area LIII and LVI, you'll find these long posts are absent. For instance in LVI his longest post was a nice little: Granted he did get shot night 1. In LIII his longest post was: Which is nowhere near of the calibre that you see in his town games. Furthermore you can see in this accusation post (remember he is mafia this game) that he only accused MG after others had gone after him (he says so himself in this post). This is easy to see from his filter in that game because this is the first time he's ever talked about MG. This is exactly what he's done this game. He doesn't make any mention of me, but once a handful of people say I'm mafia he immediately hops aboard the train trying to contribute. Exactly what he did as mafia in LIII with MidnightGladius. Summary of why Bill Murray is mafia: 1) Overall inactivity. He hasn't done anything this game. Do any of the posts he's made stick out at you as memorable? 2) Spam level. He's had zero spam this game. There is a noticeable difference in his spamminess when he is town and mafia. This game it is consistent with his mafia play. 3) No long posts. When Bill Murray is town, he makes posts that are paragraphs long. When he is mafia he never does such a thing. This game he hasn't made a post longer than ~5 sentences. 4) Lack of thoughts or accusations. When he is town he is not afraid to call someone out or make a long (relative to him) accusation post. When he is mafia he is all aboard the sheep train. He even said in a post that he is sheeping and in another post that he thinks sheeping is good for the town. Obviously have to take care of more pressing mafia first. ##Vote: Kurumi | ||
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On March 15 2013 00:28 yamato77 wrote: Yes, Foolish dies today. I think Stutters being afk is standard Stutters, but I will give his filter a look see. You have been pushing him all game. What are some other reads. If you take the Foolish thing out of the equation, how do you view Marvellosity? marvel is town to me even if i ignore foolishness being there. he just has much more interest when he is town and feels genuine. sloosh is probably also mafia. maybe corazon but i am not sure with him as with sloosh because i can't tell whether he would genuinely martyr like this, i thought in the beginning he came off as very fake. | ||
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On March 15 2013 01:07 strongandbig wrote: I don't believe that you can accurately read marv based only on feelings and interest. i've been in or read games with him where he was scum and seemed totally interested and engaged. no you definitely can. that was the reason why i checked him in death note - he wasn't interested in what was going on at all. and then he was kira so that fucked it up -_- | ||
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You are Fishball] the stubborn anti-town townie (read: traitor). You receive PMs but cannot answer them. You also cannot any questions directed towards you. You must spread doubt and cause havoc in the thread. In addition, if you are ever lynched, BloodyC0bbler will be lynched in your place if he is still alive. If he is dead, you cannot dodge the lynch. You win if the mafia wins. In addition, if you complete your revenge and help lynch Bloodyc0bbler, you will gain a one shot kp power. | ||
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You are Comrade Caller, the (in)famous trollhost (mafia gravedigger). You have the ability to plant evidence on someone when they die (once per game), causing them to flip any role and alignment you choose. You, however, discover the true role and alignment of said player. Use this information wisely! except this time, they gave us some warning. | ||
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On March 16 2013 00:54 slOosh wrote: Bull. I call bull on all of you. The fact that people are using this to push me as red is ridiculous, because I never used cora's alignment as a determination of another players. All the vets of TL Mafia agree that the death framer was too strong, and you guys think that kita and grey would decide to put it back into the game untouched. Wow. No. | ||
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cool story bro. guess that's why they let us see the real flip first. | ||
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So they knew that they had to save corazon. The only people who arent voting in a manner that would kill corazon on day 2 are foolish, vivax, and prplhz (stolen vote). slooshs vote was controlled by corazon. Considering that they only needed a handful of votes to save him its pretty much impossible that no one would try to save him. Looking at the day 2 voting vivax is the guy who stands out as keeping on trying to do something to save corazon. He is the guy who tried to vote very late on for prplhz, he was initially on yamato when that still had a chance of being second. He tried very hard in fruity to save yamato on day 1 when both were mafia so he is not afraid of being in the spotlight in terms of trying to save teammates. Also for the people who do not think corazon could be mafiabased purely on the number of kp: this is a heavily themed game where everyone has a role. It is not at all unlikely for mafia to have vigilantes of some sort to help deal with that. Stutters claimed the shot on foolish, so it is only 2 unaccounted for kp. Kill vivax. I know marv being so wrong about foolishness seems unlikely for him as town but pretty much everyone of us were wrong about foolish including people like super. ##Vote Vivax | ||
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Im a cop - if i giess a peraons personality correctly i get their alignment plus role name. I checked s&b night 1 as bh and didnt get anything. I checkwd vivax last night as toad and hes the mafia politician. Lynch him. I dont have ant breadcrumbs i dont use them. Cross doesnt look like mafia to me right now dp and sloosh do but go with my check first more reliable. Kk need to go will be back. | ||
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I ched s&b because i didnt have a good read on him and the way that he went after bugs looked fake to me. I was going to check corazon at first but then i startrd thinking risk was palmar after he fid the fistpoynd thing and i couldnt come up with a persomality for corazon. Unless you think im mafia you need to voye gor vivax right now. Also look at what he is doing right now. If he was town he would be voting for me but instead hes scared that hel get lynched if he tries to 1-1 eith me. | ||
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On March 18 2013 10:23 DarthPunk wrote: Not worth the risk at LYLO. But you won't listen to me. Ahahahaha. Lynch this guy next. | ||
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I dont get a full role pm for checks - i get their alignment plus a role name based on their powers. | ||
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my favorite posts of this thread: + Show Spoiler + On March 11 2013 03:03 wherebugsgo wrote: Perhaps you all know this old saying that I am about to invoke. It is well known, but often bastardized. I will set this straight now. Imagine we now live in a long past age. Our language is the language of the Sages. In this language of the wise, the ending "mi" roughly translates into "the little." It is a dimunitive title, used most commonly for the apprentice of a wizard. The evil ones are rough, but the sages are not. There is no aural difference, merely in our script. If we were to transliterate to the modern language of the flock, it would be the difference between the letters "f" and "ph," or "c" and "s" and "z," or, in our case, the difference between "C" and "K". In the past, a member of The Great Ones was old Curu, also known as The Cunning. Curu had a duality and the propensity to delve into evil, but on the whole acted as one of the influential Sages of our past. In the language of the wise, Curu means "goose", although "Curumi" means "duck." Oddly enough, "Uruc" (ooroos) translates into "mouse", and "Uruk" (oorook) is "rat". When we add a dimunitive, with "soft" letters such as "c", a vowel is added. "Uruc" becomes "Urucimi". With "hard" letters, the end vowel must be moved to the front to facilitate the dimunitive. Thus, from "Uruk" we get "Kurumi." I have thus discovered the true meaning behind the name of the impostor. After all, the old saying is that, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is most definitely a rat. On March 12 2013 02:40 wherebugsgo wrote: Hello, oh sparkly one. I wish I could see in colors! The dog does not understand your slowness. Perhaps the sparkles are too much? Please, do not pay attention to the tail. It can be very distracting. *woof woof* Let me tell you a story, that I had told our crocodile friend. Mr Crocodile, I asked him, what would you do if you were the last crocodilian to live? Sorry, I suppose that is not specific enough. What if someone else said they were the last crocodilian? I am the one true dog. There is no other dog. No other woofs and pants and licks and wags like me. The rat said he was the true dog. This made the dog angry. Do you understand now, oh sparkly one? Surely you have realized-there cannot be two dogs. I also smelled, that the impostor rat seemed oddly...familiar. Do you know of the Hindus? It was like that, as if the rat wanted to be an elephant. But that the elephant wasn't satisfactory, so he chose to try to become a dog. I know this is all confusing, but let me put it this way: in a past life, I believe I had a trunk. I still sometimes feel the urge to snort water. Remember, I am the one true dog. You may choose to put me down today, put me out of my misery. I am okay with that. Sometimes the dog must make the sacrifice for the greater good. However I do not think that you would be very happy with me afterward. You would see that then I would have been more useful in your service. As a guide doc, perhaps-to lead the blind and the ugly. And to bring in the chickens and herd sheep. On March 11 2013 06:32 strongandbig wrote: BIG CASE EVERYONE READ MY BIG CASE also did anyone tell foolishness the game has started? He's not living up to his position as If he keeps letting us down, he could be in danger of a mob attack... On March 11 2013 13:14 Foolishness wrote: And it is so on this brightest of white days that I stroll into Personality Town. I clutch the assignment paper in my pocket as I walk into the main parts of the town. The paper that was handed to me not moments ago from the gate guard Greymist. Though I had arrived late to the town, I had already knew exactly where I was proceeding to; a destination known, but not known for I had only just arrived and getting my bearings down would take some effort. But on the right side of the street I came across a wonderful grove; full of vibrant trees that radiated through the yard. I stopped for a moment to take in the scene. I was not the only one so moved by the scenery, as many people buzzed through their way through the many trees. Not a minute had passed before a fine gentleman approached the grove as well. Though I gave him no inclination to, he stood beside me and struck up conversation. "They are cherry pickers you see," he said, pointing at the people wandering in and out of the grove. "Cherry pickers?" I asked. "Yes," BloodyC0bbler replied. "But they only pick cherries. Ask them to pick from the apple trees, and you will be met with resistance." "That must make it difficult to accomplish anything." "Aye. You best be moving on. If you stare too long you too will succumb to the ripe taste of the cherry. And then we will have lost another soul." "But what about you?" I questioned him. "I am the shepherd of these people. It is my job to lead them down the path of the scumhunt; to steer them away from the cherry trees. They are my responsibility." Without another word I departed the poor man and made my way down the street. And I wondered about the shepherd as I walked. Surely his cause is noble, but is that all there is too it? For a few minutes I pondered this question as I walked, until I came across a man sitting on a bench. "Excuse me," I asked the man, "could you tell me where I can find the house of Vivax?" "Ahhh, the house of Vivax you say? Well I could not know where anything is in this town. You see I am blind, and I have not interest where anything is in this town during my stay," Ver replied. "Blind?!?!" I was shocked at this finding. "But how can you possibly hope to accomplish anything?" "Oh ho ho sir! You only think to see with your eyes. But you have other senses with which you can see. You must learn to use all your senses in this town, not just what you see with your eyes. And then you will see! You will see that there is much to learn from your other sense. Why I have learned so much in this short time without my eyes. Sometimes, your eyes bias your mind, and you see things that are not really there. You only see them because your mind wants to. I do not have such issues. And thus, what I see is truly......pure." Truly pure. I was at a loss for words from his short speech. What could I say to that? I gave a quick goodbye and went on my way, pondering his vision about seeing; seeing what is right in front of you, seeing without your eyes. Was I seeing things that weren't really there? Was I just seeing them because my mind wanted to see them? I ducked into a coffee shop and parked myself at a table. I looked back through notes of the case. Except this time, I did not read with my eyes, but I read with my mind. And I saw something different this time. I saw what couldn't be seen with my eyes. I saw exactly what I needed to see. It was beyond what I saw the first time, the first time with my eyes. I saw a depth that was previously not there. I saw all the motivation (or lack of it), all of the ineptitude, all through a hidden agenda. It was...pure. With the knowledge of my mind lingering in my head, I packed up my things and continued on my way; destination in hand, more determined than ever. ##Vote: Vivax On March 13 2013 22:34 supersoft wrote: You have to be trolling me right now. Seriously, lynch Foolish day3 if it pleases you. Not today. The fact that you even consider lynching the guy, who just nuked the guy who gives town the most information if he dies, drives me crazy. It's just dumb to kill Foolish before the shot goes through. We're in no rush with that. We can easily wait for the additional information. i will take that into my signature. On March 16 2013 02:54 slOosh wrote: Ah yes. Scum Cora & Foolishness pulled an elaborate ploy to lynch himself to fool everyone's reads, and had it not been for your keen insight we would have been deluded into thinking he could have been town. Why, even the mods were fooled! Why, you exposed my dastardly plot to use corazon's alignment to draw false conclusions, before I even made any such posts! Bravo marv, you are the hero that this town needs. On March 15 2013 03:21 austinmcc wrote: WEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEEOOOWEE THIS IS THE THREAD POLICE. COME OUT WITH YOUR HANDS UP. SERIOUSLY, GET YOUR HANDS OFF THE KEYBOARD. PUT THEM UP. DO NOT PUT THEM BACK ON THE KEYBOARD. FACT: This thread is full of A LOT of nonsense today. FACT: Threads full of nonsense are bad for town. OPINION: If you read a Vivax post that is ridiculous/nonsensical/flip-floppy/etc. and you want to comment on it, DO NOT OPINION: If you read a Vivax post that is actually logical, pursuing a read that makes any kind of sense at all to you, then feel free to agree/disagree/discuss that comment, and not deal with anything else he says OPINION: Associations based on flips/votes that have happened are SOMEWHAT OKAY, associations based on who might flip what if they weren't so alive are NOT OKAY. There has been so much crap filling the thread today about Yamato/marv/foolish/peter pan/vivax/dick cancer and it's running us around in circles. Tbh, I really only want to read the following things: [list][*]admissions of stealing prplhz's vote [*]any reads of darthpunk's [*]anything that supersoft says [*]DI and iamperfection's comments on stuff that isn't yamato/marv/foolish/vivax [*]posts wherein someone discovers CRAZY SCUMSLIPS THE SIZE OF THE MOON, and maybe the size of THREE MOONS if it concerns marv/foolishness/yamato [*]posts from promethelax, who has been super absent today But seriously, can we just save all the comments on what we will think/do if someone flips whatever for when someone flips whatever or not whatever? Cuz that's kind of the time they actually mean anything. We should be discussing this lynch like rational people that want a legible thread, but we are actually doing such a poor job with that that it feels like we would be better served to not even discuss the lynch. For emphasis. 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On March 19 2013 12:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also mafia, Fuck you guys =( Roleblocking broke my bus too good man. you were onto Ver, had to do it. incidentally, I'm still kind of annoyed that Ver didn't talk to anyone in our team at all or tell us his role -_- like I don't know if he actually didn't check his role PM or was just ridiculously busy or what but sigh. | ||
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On March 19 2013 12:46 Dandel Ion wrote: What's the point of making a sleeper cell if you can just add your scumbuddies to it '-.- It's just free KP like that. I'm most surprised they put stutters in at all, just go with 3 of 'em olol. Also all of town played like shit. And I mean it when I say all. A lot of y'all need to pull their heads out of their asses and realize how bad you really are. Trust me, it's refreshing. only town votes counted in the sleeper cell. so we needed at least one town in order to get a kill. | ||
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On March 19 2013 12:52 gonzaw wrote: To be honest.....it's not farfetched to think Vivax as town MVP this game.... ...in comparison to other townies >_> <_< no just no... he was so useful for us. like there was a reason why there was so much chaos in this game, why there was so much focus and pressure put on obvious townies, why vivax was lynched over myself even though it was a "eh screw this let's do something interesting" kind of claim. BC is probably the only town guy who didn't play poorly. | ||
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On March 20 2013 05:29 Acrofales wrote: Heh. I was 100% set up for bussing Ver D1, but nobody wanted to kill him. Then he disappeared D2 and town forgot about him. By D3 I figured we could get a flawless victory, so my stance on Ver/DP went all weird Anyway, the reason we really wanted you dead was that Ver was scum, Foolishness was getting himself lynched and that left you out of the 3 TL Mafia dinosaurs We feared your reads (rightly so) and didn't think you'd get protection. As for the roleblock, we mainly wanted to prevent NKs getting blocked. We figured none of our kills were primary protection targets (though VE should have been imho). VE had shown himself as a multivoter, so we didn't much fear he had any powers to stop NKs. That left you and supersoft. I can't quite remember why we picked you to block over supersoft, but I think you left some kind of cryptic hint about doing something at night (couldn't find it in a quick glance over your filter) the reason we blocked bc over super was because super was wrong about everything. bc had a clear focus on ver and seemed to have some kind of plan. | ||
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