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On March 15 2013 03:11 Acrofales wrote:
Vote Count
OmniEulogy (2): geript, TheRavensName,
MLuneth (6): Frorgon, Krafla, Rainbows, Rainbows, bduddy, geript, nobodywonder
geript (1): Rainbows, MLuneth
No vote: sn0_man, OmniEulogy
MLuneth is currently set to be lynched. ~7 hours until the deadline. Voting is mandatory. Please remember to bold your votes, and to unvote if you've previously voted for someone else.
If there's a mistake, let me know!
Shouldn't OmniEulogy be at (1) not (2)?
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The case on bduddy was pretty good with how little he posted, let me expand on it a little with some conjunction, + Show Spoiler +cause I really like brining WIFOM into things apparently
On March 09 2013 10:04 bduddy wrote:
And also, we still need to keep an eye on anyone that defended or refused to vote for AD, even if they eventually switched (once it became relatively obvious that he was going down).
Matriarch, MLuneth, and Krafla never switched their vote; I'd be willing to bet at least one of them was scum trying to keep AD in it.
This is a very valid point, OE was pretty against the AD lynch and Bduddy was one of the few people, and one of the firt, who brought it up and pointed as potential evidence against OE... but I can't help but wonder if he brought it up in case AD did die and he wanted to get OE out of it by making him look bad for opposing it, sort of like a soft bussing.
On March 09 2013 09:35 bduddy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 09:33 Arctic Daishi wrote:Thanks for the advice and help, Promethelax. . I'm almost willing to believe him. Almost. AD, whoever your coach actually is, I would start PM'ing him some more, because it's not quite over yet. I'm still voting for you, though.
What was the point of this post? seems a little scummy to me, as a way of maybe getting people to hop off of AD, or even to have an excuse of a last minute switch. I mean... everyone else who read that goodbye I'm going to die post immediatly said: Holy rap that is scummy, kill him with fire..
He was even soft pushing for Taco along with OE day 1, (Look at his pestering of TAco quite a bit about information that wasn't relevant at the time because AD was going to die no matter what with how close to the deadline we were and he didn't want to make himself a target at night (which is a fairly valid point.)
I even think that given the amount of time he spends denying and pushing Krafia's blue claim that he could hve seen and pointed out the same braed crumbs I saw when I defende the blue claim, to the roleblocker and wanted to get Krafia lynhed so he cold move the roleblocker to hunting for our jailer. I really don't like how he wants our jailer to role claim whn everyone else agrees its a bad idea even with a 1 to 1 trade, and I can't help but think the mention of PMs, while they first pointed me to the front of the thread, may have been a slip on his part.
To think, when I started this post I thught bduddy was more innocnt then guilty till I started to look into his filter and compare it to the discussions at the time and other peoples reactions. Glad to see this pop up.. .cause I am still conflicted about the OE and mluneth lynchs, especially sense at this rate OE is looking like he will be replaced or modkilled.
##unvote
##vote bduddy
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Hey guys sorry for the absence, my house got fumigated and it took a few days for the fumes to clear out to a non-poisonous level. I've explained it to Acro so if I'm mod-killed it's pretty understandable as I believe I've missed a full night cycle and 24 hours of D2/D3's cycles. I won't even touch on the game till Acro lets me know what his decision is but I figure I owe an explanation.
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On March 08 2013 16:08 TheRavensName wrote:
Its one of the few things that seems to carry over between versions of this game bduddy.
On March 08 2013 16:40 bduddy wrote:
You mean the "blue" thing? I get that, having looked at some other Mafia games. But it doesn't match your previous posting style in this game... and the many spelling mistakes you've been making don't match your posting style in general. Again, I think you've been playing dumb.
Raven could you explain this to me. I wasn't in the last game that it seems like you and bduddy were in. Could you also detail who was town/scum in that game?
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On March 15 2013 03:55 OmniEulogy wrote:
Hey guys sorry for the absence, my house got fumigated and it took a few days for the fumes to clear out to a non-poisonous level. I've explained it to Acro so if I'm mod-killed it's pretty understandable as I believe I've missed a full night cycle and 24 hours of D2/D3's cycles. I won't even touch on the game till Acro lets me know what his decision is but I figure I owe an explanation.
I believe if you post a vote you are within the activity levels required and shouldn't get modkilled but I suppose I should let acro adress that fully. I'm glad to hear you are alive.
On the other hand, there are a lot of outstanding cases against you that are lent a lot of weight by your silence...
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@OE As far as I'm concerned, Acro said to treat people as not being modkilled until they are actually modkilled IIRC. I would prefer you defend yourself, focus on scumhunting and start contributing instead of just sitting back.
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On March 15 2013 04:00 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 16:08 TheRavensName wrote:
Its one of the few things that seems to carry over between versions of this game bduddy. Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 16:40 bduddy wrote:
You mean the "blue" thing? I get that, having looked at some other Mafia games. But it doesn't match your previous posting style in this game... and the many spelling mistakes you've been making don't match your posting style in general. Again, I think you've been playing dumb. Raven could you explain this to me. I wasn't in the last game that it seems like you and bduddy were in. Could you also detail who was town/scum in that game?
Oh we wern't in a game together. As I said before I played a lot of the SC2 Mafia and a few games of IRC, so I'm used to games that take twenty minutes not twenty days (assuming like 6 day of games.) The last game I played of Mafia on TL was the first one I did, and that was Newbie Mini Mafia IX, where I got subbed in and the game ended like the next day cause one of the scum had to quit, the other was going to by lynched, and the last one had no kill power so thats why if you look at my early posts they really show how green I am at the long term forum version of the game.
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To be honest I was actually starting to wonder why I had been given such a "free ride" at this point... To be honest, I know I haven't posted that much, but I'm not sure what else I could post. I haven't been playing Internet mafia long enough (read: not at all) to make cases based off of all that psychological mumbo-jumbo you guys use*, and it seems like no one posts whenever I actually try to hang around and respond to people, so I go and do something else. (Getting a job is important, you know, and HoTS is a fun game! Who knew?) Before I made my last post I saw Rainbows' case on MLuneth and thought it made sense; I looked through MLuneth's filter (which isn't that long... hypocrisy, I know!), tried to pull out a few things I thought added to the case, and made it my vote. Sorry if that's not enough, but I don't know what else I can do.
* Yes, I know these things are valid mafia strategy, I'm trying to make a joke. Hahaha.
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Alright, Acros given me the green light so, I'll be doing a bit of reading.
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On March 15 2013 04:00 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 16:08 TheRavensName wrote:
Its one of the few things that seems to carry over between versions of this game bduddy. Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 16:40 bduddy wrote:
You mean the "blue" thing? I get that, having looked at some other Mafia games. But it doesn't match your previous posting style in this game... and the many spelling mistakes you've been making don't match your posting style in general. Again, I think you've been playing dumb. Raven could you explain this to me. I wasn't in the last game that it seems like you and bduddy were in. Could you also detail who was town/scum in that game? I haven't played a game of TL mafia before. I looked at TRN's previous TL posts and noticed a distinct lack of spelling mistakes compared to the posts he had made so far in the thread; that, combined with his initial noob-claims followed up by his sudden knowledge of Mafia terminology, led me to suspect he might have been playing dumb. He's been pretty much OK since then, so I guess I was off-base.
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Ok, Bduddy... I'm listening... who are your top scum reads and why?
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Think of it like a school essay 
No plagiarism (aka sheeping), Original research is required. If somebody else gives you an idea, thats fine but you gotta go pursue it and, well, make original content.
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Well, I'm glad to see OE finally realized his icon didn't actually make his TL account a dark templar...
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On March 15 2013 04:20 Sn0_Man wrote:Think of it like a school essay No plagiarism (aka sheeping), Original research is required. If somebody else gives you an idea, thats fine but you gotta go pursue it and, well, make original content.
So do it at the last second, pulling up wikipedia and hoping you changed it enough to not get flagged for plagerism before putting sources that say something kinda similar as the wikipedia page.
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On March 15 2013 03:51 TheRavensName wrote:
This is a very valid point, OE was pretty against the AD lynch and Bduddy was one of the few people, and one of the firt, who brought it up and pointed as potential evidence against OE... but I can't help but wonder if he brought it up in case AD did die and he wanted to get OE out of it by making him look bad for opposing it, sort of like a soft bussing. I'm... not sure what you're trying to say by that. Yes, I brought it up because I thought it was highly suspicious they were defending each other, and if AD was scum - which he was - it would reflect very badly on OE. Why haven't I tried to attack OE more then? Well, as others have noted, he's contributed a lot more since then, and there have been other people that have acted worse. Now that I think of it, though, I should really go back and try to see if I can scrape together a decent case against OE... I've looked, but can't find any other strong evidence. Doing that again right now...
What was the point of this post? seems a little scummy to me, as a way of maybe getting people to hop off of AD, or even to have an excuse of a last minute switch. I mean... everyone else who read that goodbye I'm going to die post immediatly said: Holy rap that is scummy, kill him with fire..
Maybe I'm an optimist, but I was trying to give him an out just in case he was actually the supernoob he was claiming to be - as bad as AD obviously was on either side, dead town is still worse than dead mafia. If I was scum and trying to save him, don't you think I would have PM'd him to say something less stupid or something?
He was even soft pushing for Taco along with OE day 1, (Look at his pestering of TAco quite a bit about information that wasn't relevant at the time because AD was going to die no matter what with how close to the deadline we were and he didn't want to make himself a target at night (which is a fairly valid point.)
I even think that given the amount of time he spends denying and pushing Krafia's blue claim that he could hve seen and pointed out the same braed crumbs I saw when I defende the blue claim, to the roleblocker and wanted to get Krafia lynhed so he cold move the roleblocker to hunting for our jailer. I really don't like how he wants our jailer to role claim whn everyone else agrees its a bad idea even with a 1 to 1 trade, and I can't help but think the mention of PMs, while they first pointed me to the front of the thread, may have been a slip on his part.
Taco's posting was terrible, and it's pretty obvious that I wasn't the only one to think so. I thought Krafla's claim was suspicious, especially his claim of getting randomly roleblocked twice and again getting roleblocked without the mafia even knowing he had another shot. I mean, look at it this way - even though he hasn't tried to do anything with it (which could be risky), it's essentially put him above suspicion - why wouldn't mafia want to do that?
I merely suggested the role-claim, and even asked for feedback right in my post. I thought a 1v1 trade would be good for us, and I think it still might be - as it goes our JK is still basically guessing.
My mention of PMs meant "read the role PMs", you know, the ones in the second post, specifically the mafia one that says they all have kill power. How could that possibly be a "slip"?
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On March 15 2013 04:26 TheRavensName wrote:
Well, I'm glad to see OE finally realized his icon didn't actually make his TL account a dark templar...
LOL <3 I'm on page 58 atm and I have to stop and say a few things before I continue reading,
First NW nice shot I deserved that one after Taco's flip lol  I still would have pushed him if I was here for the rest of the day most likely, bad play on my part sorry town.
but @Raven
On March 13 2013 20:49 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 15:25 bduddy wrote:On March 13 2013 15:18 Krafla wrote:
Morning guys, just woken up and about to head to work, but just to let you know I was role blocked again tonight. Really? So the mafia blocked you without even knowing if you still had a shot or not? I'm not buying it. Who did you target and why? Did you breadcrumb, and why did you not night-post like last night? Considering that we supposedly are supposed to know all the possible roles, is it really necessary that you hide important mechanics about how they work? I also can't help but feel he kind of manipulated our jail keeper. I was RBed last night, which I'm willing to take as me being saved over WoS.... and Omni basically told WoS that jailkeeper was an idiot for choosing WoS over me, so last night the Jailkeeper followed that logic and WoS got run over.
It wasn't me who said WoS shouldn't be the target for our JK, in fact I believe I said I would have picked WoS as well. Geript said you were the better choice. Just a bit of a mix up but I'd rather people didn't think I told the JK not to keep saving WoS when I never said anything like that 
@Rainbows I think I missed Luneth's lie, I'm going to re-read a few times but if you are around could you help me out and tell me what you are talking about when you mentioned it before Taco got lynched.
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On March 15 2013 03:51 TheRavensName wrote:
I even think that given the amount of time he spends denying and pushing Krafia's blue claim that he could hve seen and pointed out the same braed crumbs I saw when I defende the blue claim, to the roleblocker and wanted to get Krafia lynhed so he cold move the roleblocker to hunting for our jailer.
Since he's outed himself, could you point out the blue breadcrumbs because I'm not seeing them? The only ones I saw were in pre-game which don't mean anything to me.
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Well, bduddy I think that is your biggest post so far.
However, just trying to survive is once again scummy. Town don't care about survival, they care about lynching scum. Town loses if it can't identify and lynch scum. Mafia only care about survival, because they don't need to lynch anybody in particular to win. I'd say your play lines up a lot more with survival play than scumhunting play.
Most of your excuses/justifications are pretty null, could be town could be mafia. The motivation behind your play remains (IMO) scummy.
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On March 10 2013 09:57 TheRavensName wrote:
Well Krafia did state a couple of times he had cases and had no intention of revealing them till after day 2 started. I suppose you could use this as semi eviddence or slight bread crumbing. Mafia could have easily picked up on this and blocked him.
This is where I mentioned it.
PS: Oe your right both times, my bad.
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On March 14 2013 23:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
I still feel like somebody has got to be responsible for the mislynch yesterday and you are going to have a hard time convincing me that that is MLuneth... (I still think it's either geript for mucking up the thread or, as others are pointing out, Omni but he won't defend himself...)
Actually, it feels a bit like Omni is getting out of this lynch by... being afk? :/ So we target somebody else because they respond... (admittedly, MLuneth seems to be digging himself a hole every time he opens his mouth).
The way I look at the mislynch yesterday, it was mainly poor play by Taco. Luneth was set to be lynched and OE wasn't really convincing all of us. Despite some cases on Taco I decided to keep my vote on Luneth. I only changed it when Taco came back with a bad attitude and provided a shitty defense. Same with a few others I think. But I will admit that if Luneth got lynched yesterday my top candidate going into today would have been Taco. I don't think Geript mucking up the thread had much to do with that though.
As far as Omni getting out of being lynched by being afk, I think it's a number of factors. First of all his previous play didn't have me convinced. Secondly, like you said, Luneth digs a deeper hole when he responds. Third, I think there is some regret when the wrong choice was made yesterday after we were so close to getting Luneth.
To respond to your claims on bduddy, I haven't forgotten him. But I'm going with who looks the scummiest right now. If Luneth somehow flips town then there's really a lot of deep searching to do. But at the moment I interpret bduddy's play as inexperienced town. I have called him out every time he's said something dumb and I don't intend to give him a free ride.
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