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bduddy
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On March 11 2013 14:05 Rainbows wrote: ...WTF is up with you? I know you've been active (occasionally) and tried to provoke responses out of people, but you're getting ridiculous at this point, and I don't mean ridiculously helpful.I'd rather lynch Geript than OE. We should also kll MLuneth gogogo vote him. | ||
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On March 13 2013 00:54 Frorgon wrote: Yeah... I don't want to try to get too much into the motivations of the host, but it seems more likely that he would refuse to modkill Matriarch if she was mafia (because there are less of them, it would affect the game more).I definitely have some new ideas to pitch although I'm still super suspicious of Luneth too. I guess Matriarch isn't getting modkilled, which is interesting in itself (for balancing reasons??). Rainbows, I think it's highly unlikely that 2+ mafia ended up voting for AD, because it was close enough that AD would have avoided the lynch if they had jumped off. I'm pretty sure that at least one mafia member was among the NW voters. Could you please add the rest of the "important posts" to the first post? | ||
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bduddy
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Sn0_Man, the reason you need to post, a lot, is that the person you're replacing posted hardly anything at all, so we hardly have anything on the two of you combined. Lurking at this point would make me, at least, very suspicious of you - please do try to catch up and contribute at least a little bit. | ||
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bduddy
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On March 13 2013 14:27 geript wrote: I'm not sure about that. His idea that we have one JK and they have one RB does essentially fit; at this point, if we have a permanent JK him claiming almost certainly does more harm than good. Of course, if we have any one-shotters, they should have claimed already... We have to have at least a couple other blues. I guess they know what they're doing, but a little extra information would be really nice to have right about now...I've also thought about it and I really think that we need to get those roleblocks announced because if there's only one then we need to consider Krafla more. | ||
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bduddy
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On March 13 2013 15:18 Krafla wrote: Really? So the mafia blocked you without even knowing if you still had a shot or not? I'm not buying it. Who did you target and why? Did you breadcrumb, and why did you not night-post like last night?Morning guys, just woken up and about to head to work, but just to let you know I was role blocked again tonight. Considering that we supposedly are supposed to know all the possible roles, is it really necessary that you hide important mechanics about how they work? | ||
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bduddy
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On March 14 2013 03:13 Sn0_Man wrote: It's called pressuring, and it doesn't work if you go out and tell them that it's "just a ploy" or whatever. If you have to "trick" somebody into making cases it probably makes more sense to lynch them. If not, then my comment certainly shouldn't prevent MLuneth from responding in a reasonable manner. I mean, how dumb does this sound: "Hey guys, I tricked scum into making a case..." :X And as I said, if the target is town then you shouldn't need to "trick" them. | ||
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bduddy
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##Vote: MLuneth | ||
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* Yes, I know these things are valid mafia strategy, I'm trying to make a joke. Hahaha. | ||
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bduddy
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On March 15 2013 04:00 geript wrote: I haven't played a game of TL mafia before. I looked at TRN's previous TL posts and noticed a distinct lack of spelling mistakes compared to the posts he had made so far in the thread; that, combined with his initial noob-claims followed up by his sudden knowledge of Mafia terminology, led me to suspect he might have been playing dumb. He's been pretty much OK since then, so I guess I was off-base.Raven could you explain this to me. I wasn't in the last game that it seems like you and bduddy were in. Could you also detail who was town/scum in that game? | ||
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bduddy
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On March 15 2013 03:51 TheRavensName wrote: I'm... not sure what you're trying to say by that. Yes, I brought it up because I thought it was highly suspicious they were defending each other, and if AD was scum - which he was - it would reflect very badly on OE. Why haven't I tried to attack OE more then? Well, as others have noted, he's contributed a lot more since then, and there have been other people that have acted worse. Now that I think of it, though, I should really go back and try to see if I can scrape together a decent case against OE... I've looked, but can't find any other strong evidence. Doing that again right now...This is a very valid point, OE was pretty against the AD lynch and Bduddy was one of the few people, and one of the firt, who brought it up and pointed as potential evidence against OE... but I can't help but wonder if he brought it up in case AD did die and he wanted to get OE out of it by making him look bad for opposing it, sort of like a soft bussing. What was the point of this post? seems a little scummy to me, as a way of maybe getting people to hop off of AD, or even to have an excuse of a last minute switch. I mean... everyone else who read that goodbye I'm going to die post immediatly said: Holy rap that is scummy, kill him with fire.. Maybe I'm an optimist, but I was trying to give him an out just in case he was actually the supernoob he was claiming to be - as bad as AD obviously was on either side, dead town is still worse than dead mafia. If I was scum and trying to save him, don't you think I would have PM'd him to say something less stupid or something? He was even soft pushing for Taco along with OE day 1, (Look at his pestering of TAco quite a bit about information that wasn't relevant at the time because AD was going to die no matter what with how close to the deadline we were and he didn't want to make himself a target at night (which is a fairly valid point.) Taco's posting was terrible, and it's pretty obvious that I wasn't the only one to think so. I thought Krafla's claim was suspicious, especially his claim of getting randomly roleblocked twice and again getting roleblocked without the mafia even knowing he had another shot. I mean, look at it this way - even though he hasn't tried to do anything with it (which could be risky), it's essentially put him above suspicion - why wouldn't mafia want to do that? I even think that given the amount of time he spends denying and pushing Krafia's blue claim that he could hve seen and pointed out the same braed crumbs I saw when I defende the blue claim, to the roleblocker and wanted to get Krafia lynhed so he cold move the roleblocker to hunting for our jailer. I really don't like how he wants our jailer to role claim whn everyone else agrees its a bad idea even with a 1 to 1 trade, and I can't help but think the mention of PMs, while they first pointed me to the front of the thread, may have been a slip on his part. I merely suggested the role-claim, and even asked for feedback right in my post. I thought a 1v1 trade would be good for us, and I think it still might be - as it goes our JK is still basically guessing. My mention of PMs meant "read the role PMs", you know, the ones in the second post, specifically the mafia one that says they all have kill power. How could that possibly be a "slip"? | ||
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bduddy
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Now that we know Arctic's alignment it looks more like Luneth was trying to save him without making it look too obvious. If we consider how quickly he leaves after nobody budges from Arctic it looks pretty bad. (Night 1)nothing more about Arctic vs NW after this. I think both Luneth and Taco have shown some pretty large signs that they don't really care who gets lynched. The amount of effort behind where their votes land is between minimal and non-existent. good to see you come back with such a strong case rainbows. I agree with you that Luneth looks like a pretty good choice for mafia, leaving us with 1(?) remaining. I still believe the last one is Taco. If there is a 4th I'd be surprised as I've only had 3 scum in all of my newbie games. Is this a weak bus, leaving room for OE to claim "But I was on ML the whole time!" if he goes down? Maybe. I doubt it, though - why do it so early before MLuneth was under real suspicion? On the other hand, MLuneth's defenses of OE are not hard to find, he even admitted himself that it looked like he was buddying him. So that leaves three possibilities - OE is scum and ML is town, they're both town, or they're both mafia and OE is trying a really weird bus. I'm not willing to believe that they're both town given the combined suspicion I have towards both of them (yes, I know it was Day 1, but OE's defense of AD was just too much for me to ignore), and so both remaining possibilities are that OE is scum. And I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is. ##Unvote ##Vote: OmniEulogy | ||
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bduddy
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On March 16 2013 05:28 geript wrote: Why the hell would we claim now? We have at least our JK (and probably at least another blue, right?) and the mafia still has their roleblocker. After the action deadline, sure, but I don't understand what this rush is all about.Actually, I prefer a mass claim right now. There's no tracker/watcher. No town RBer unless by chance they're one shot. Vigilante is an odd outside possibility at best; perhaps but vig/jk/1shot cop is a very odd combination. I haven't seen reasonable evidence of masons but I'd have to look carefully again. Overlords should've spawned by now one way or another. An SK should've shot night 1 in the least. I'm just not seeing a major difference between a mass claim now (or in the action locked hour before dawn) and doing it at day break. If you don't want to let actions be changed off of it then let's do it in the hour after actions get locked. Btw, if you happen to be a vigilante then don't shoot tonight. | ||
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bduddy
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...FFS how did I miss that, I specifically remember reading the posts directly above and below that one >_< Well, OK then. How are we going to do this? | ||
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On March 16 2013 07:29 geript wrote: I've read a little bit about setting an order beforehand, or using a RNG to set one, or stuff like that to make sure mafia can't go last and thus get out of stuff. Do you think we need to do any of that? What about people that are "not around"?At 1 hour prior to day (starting at 8pm est [dst]) then everyone should roleclaim. This will be after actions will be locked in. If you can spawn, then spawn then. | ||
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##Vote: Rainbows ... jk ##Unvote ##Vote: Sn0_man | ||
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