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yamato77
11589 Posts
All I've said the whole time is that I don't think it's going to work, and that I'll be there to fix the problem if it doesn't. Many times I have said I am not messing with the policy itself unless I feel like it isn't working. What about that is so difficult to understand, Acro? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On February 25 2013 09:08 Acrofales wrote: I disagree with Iamp. I have no clue about yamato's meta, but being incredibly dumb about a pro-town policy without proposing a viable, useful, alternative is not a town trait. Yamato's participation in the thread so far has been to try to disrupt Marv's policy. That is not in town's best interest and the whole policy discussion so far has been all the dumber for it. @Marv: why do you feel Cora is scummy for opposing your policy, yet have said nothing about Yamato? Hi Acro. yamato is very stubborn, so it's kinda what I expect of him as town. Probably he won't be able to keep it up if he's mafia. Corazon like I said opposed it very wishy washily, with incorrect references of WIFOM and it being hard to enforce blablabla. At least yamato was clear on what he wanted, corazon just kinda opposed it and left nothing better out there. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Hilariously scummy. Scummiest thing posted yet. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18401 Posts
1. Using the duel deciding time to scumhunt and any gung-ho play will be punished. Yamato, it really isn't that hard, if someone goes all gung-ho on the duel, THEY get lynched (think bangbang mafia). 2. Pressuring scumspects to duel each other is an excellent policy and promotes town discussion AND the chance of lynching scum. Anybody who is not in the duel is off the hook. Whereas the two players dueling will be in the spotlight. Having an obvious or even confirmed townie means that neither of the dueling partners will feel much pressure: the obvious townie is fairly secure and the scumspect knows there's no chance to argue himself out of the lynch. Result: instant majority in 10 minutes and the game moves on to night. Great if the scumspect was scum, but gives no information if we mislynch. If, instead, we have 2 people that the thread disagrees about who is scummiest, but are both scumspects, this will cause discussion about them, AND they will be incentivized to defend themselves. Obviously, can't allow this to result in a no-duel, but as Marv said, there is really very little risk of that. That was my input on the policy discussion. Lets get to scumhunting. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On February 25 2013 09:20 marvellosity wrote: hmm? you mean Acro's post? Do you disagree? | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 25 2013 08:57 Hapahauli wrote: Corazon, I get the impression that you're more concerned with calling Sylencia a dick rather than anything else. It's fine if you don't get along with him, but it does nothing for town objectives. He's trying to drag me into a shit-fest with him that will only create chaos, which we don't need. I'm not trying to call him a dick, I'm just calling him out on his post. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
No, I don't agree. I'm pretty neutral on what Acro's posted so far | ||
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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
I just caught up with the thread. A few things: - Snarf/Marv's plan to use all of our time to get a majority before dueling seems like the best and most logical path of action. No complaints there. - Yamato, easy on the trigger amigo. I can see some merit to what you are saying, though. It might be very beneficial for the town to have someone like you who is willing to duel in order to prove alignment, as long as you follow the general town consensus. Could help to keep everyone honest... ...On the other hand, you might be mafia... in which case having you as a baseline enforcer would only result in towny deaths. Until you get cleared somehow, I think we should stick with the plan to just take our time. - Corazon: I don't know you, therefore I don't not like you! <3 Not sure why marv is putting doubt on you already, but I generally trust him. Is there something about you I should know? | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 25 2013 09:10 Acrofales wrote: Why do you feel him being angry at you for past games is a "scummy move"? I think it's scummy because he's trying to drag our focus away from the real discussion by trying to start an argument with me about things that have little relation to this game. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On February 25 2013 09:29 Dienosore wrote: Oh snap, early start! Hurray! I just caught up with the thread. A few things: - Snarf/Marv's plan to use all of our time to get a majority before dueling seems like the best and most logical path of action. No complaints there. - Yamato, easy on the trigger amigo. I can see some merit to what you are saying, though. It might be very beneficial for the town to have someone like you who is willing to duel in order to prove alignment, as long as you follow the general town consensus. Could help to keep everyone honest... ...On the other hand, you might be mafia... in which case having you as a baseline enforcer would only result in towny deaths. Until you get cleared somehow, I think we should stick with the plan to just take our time. - Corazon: I don't know you, therefore I don't not like you! <3 Not sure why marv is putting doubt on you already, but I generally trust him. Is there something about you I should know? this whole post is just wishy washy. to the bold: i have explained why, so why on earth are you "not sure"? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18401 Posts
On February 25 2013 09:12 yamato77 wrote: That's so absurdly dumb and wrong I am almost certain you're mafia. All I've said the whole time is that I don't think it's going to work, and that I'll be there to fix the problem if it doesn't. Many times I have said I am not messing with the policy itself unless I feel like it isn't working. What about that is so difficult to understand, Acro? On February 25 2013 06:47 yamato77 wrote: Policies are bad, because no one ever follows them and even if you do, it's a fucking policy and there's no discussion. Hapa you're not this retarded. This is pretty obviously NOT saying you think the policy is fine, but needs a backup plan. In fact, you call the policy bad, say there won't be discussion from it and call Hapa retarded for being in favour of the policy. Which one is it? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On February 25 2013 09:31 Acrofales wrote: This is pretty obviously NOT saying you think the policy is fine, but needs a backup plan. In fact, you call the policy bad, say there won't be discussion from it and call Hapa retarded for being in favour of the policy. Which one is it? Hapa's backup policy was bad, because it implied an immediate lynch candidate for breaking the plan that no one would end up following. I have said multiple times that Marv's plan is a good one if town is compliant. The problem I have said, also many times, is that town is not always compliant, even if/when Marv is town. Are you just not reading? | ||
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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
ok, Dieno, for now. Carry on :d | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 25 2013 09:34 yamato77 wrote: Hapa's backup policy was bad, because it implied an immediate lynch candidate for breaking the plan that no one would end up following. I have said multiple times that Marv's plan is a good one if town is compliant. The problem I have said, also many times, is that town is not always compliant, even if/when Marv is town. Are you just not reading? Yamato, why are you saying that we should all trust your scumhunting skills and let you duel everyone we think is scum, and then turn around and say that town will not always comply to everything that is said. You were being so stubborn on the fact that others don't want you to go gung-ho and do all of the scumhunting for us, and now you are being stubborn on the fact that Marv's plan relies on town being compliant. Doesn't town compliance work in the same what for your desired approach to the game as well? | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
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yamato77
11589 Posts
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 25 2013 09:41 yamato77 wrote: I'm done talking about this stupid fucking setup shit. I'm lynching mafia, even if town fucks off. That's the gist of my posting. If you don't like it, I really don't care anymore. We need to work as a team if we want to win. I trust in your ability to scumhunt, just not enough where I will sheep on you and don't do anything for the whole game. I'm sure others would agree with this as well. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
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