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It's not insanely difficult to enforce. It should be not too hard to find at least the group of people we want to lynch into, and then give a deadline/ultimatum for 2 of them to duel, or if there's 1 clear frontrunner, give a couple of people the choice of whether they want to duel with the frontrunner.
Actually the information you'll get from how people deal with this while under suspicion is probably far greater than any information you'll get from just having one clear townie dueling with someone suspicious. Whether ppl duel like they're asked, or go afk, how the suspects deal with the whole dueling situation - there's a whole mine of good shit there.
Further, I overwhelmingly back my judgement on who mafia are and are not over yours, yamato, so the last thing I need is you running off playing the hero.
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On February 25 2013 06:46 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 06:39 yamato77 wrote:
What you're proposing is a policy, and one that is insanely difficult to enforce.
I understand how having one town looking player duel one mafia looking player might stagnate discussion after the duel. I do think I will be able to extract enough information from the selection period to make a good lynch decision on my own, however, should town fail to implement you guy's plan effectively. Hence the policy I proposed earlier. @ MarvShow nested quote +On February 25 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I'll talk about it more after dinner. I don't like Corazon already. Can you expand on Cora?
Policies are bad, because no one ever follows them and even if you do, it's a fucking policy and there's no discussion.
Hapa you're not this retarded.
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On February 25 2013 06:46 Hapahauli wrote:@ MarvShow nested quote +On February 25 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I'll talk about it more after dinner. I don't like Corazon already. Can you expand on Cora?
basically a bunch of wishy washy objections to what I proposed earlier, with no real substance.
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On February 25 2013 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
It's not insanely difficult to enforce. It should be not too hard to find at least the group of people we want to lynch into, and then give a deadline/ultimatum for 2 of them to duel, or if there's 1 clear frontrunner, give a couple of people the choice of whether they want to duel with the frontrunner.
Actually the information you'll get from how people deal with this while under suspicion is probably far greater than any information you'll get from just having one clear townie dueling with someone suspicious. Whether ppl duel like they're asked, or go afk, how the suspects deal with the whole dueling situation - there's a whole mine of good shit there.
Further, I overwhelmingly back my judgement on who mafia are and are not over yours, yamato, so the last thing I need is you running off playing the hero.
In this situation, you're spreading out the pressure and possibility of getting lynched among many people, which makes it inherently more difficult to gauge the game state for mafia. I agree with the idea in sentiment, that is, if it worked perfectly it does well, but I think you're going to have a hard time getting people to apply the real pressure of lynch on the people you want to feel pressured without people like me with our finger on the trigger.
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On February 25 2013 06:47 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 06:46 Hapahauli wrote:On February 25 2013 06:39 yamato77 wrote:
What you're proposing is a policy, and one that is insanely difficult to enforce.
I understand how having one town looking player duel one mafia looking player might stagnate discussion after the duel. I do think I will be able to extract enough information from the selection period to make a good lynch decision on my own, however, should town fail to implement you guy's plan effectively. Hence the policy I proposed earlier. @ MarvOn February 25 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I'll talk about it more after dinner. I don't like Corazon already. Can you expand on Cora? Policies are bad, because no one ever follows them and even if you do, it's a fucking policy and there's no discussion. Hapa you're not this retarded.
What in the fuck...
/wrists
First of all, the "policy" I proposed is not a deviation from common sense. If we ask a person to duel another person, and he refuses to do so, that person is suspicious as fuck and should be considered a lynch candidate.
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Think of it this way, which situation do you feel more pressured in:
In a group of people with a few people pointing their guns at many.
Or
As one person, with a gun to your head.
It's an inexact analogy, but it serves to show how I view the situation.
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What are you on about? It's incredibly rare town unanimously agrees on a lynch, so you're going to have candidates who should be dueling each other. As the time gets nearer, it's town's job to work out which of them they think should be dueling. It takes organisation on town's part, something I'm certainly capable of imparting. Anyone can duel at any time if it comes down to it, it doesn't need "people like you" with your finger on the trigger.
We're not searching, individually, for two people we want to lynch, we're seeking the absolute scummiest. Out of that naturally you'll get good candidates for duelling.
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Your analogy is stupid.
Here's a better one: what do we get more discussion from?
a) A contest between two people for a lynch.
b) A lynch-mob where we have only one logical lynch option?
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On February 25 2013 06:52 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 06:47 yamato77 wrote:On February 25 2013 06:46 Hapahauli wrote:On February 25 2013 06:39 yamato77 wrote:
What you're proposing is a policy, and one that is insanely difficult to enforce.
I understand how having one town looking player duel one mafia looking player might stagnate discussion after the duel. I do think I will be able to extract enough information from the selection period to make a good lynch decision on my own, however, should town fail to implement you guy's plan effectively. Hence the policy I proposed earlier. @ MarvOn February 25 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I'll talk about it more after dinner. I don't like Corazon already. Can you expand on Cora? Policies are bad, because no one ever follows them and even if you do, it's a fucking policy and there's no discussion. Hapa you're not this retarded. What in the fuck... /wrists First of all, the "policy" I proposed is not a deviation from common sense. If we ask a person to duel another person, and he refuses to do so, that person is suspicious as fuck and should be considered a lynch candidate.
So there's two people, you tell both of them to duel each other, but neither of them will, or they duel someone else.
What are you going to do now?
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Ok this is getting nowhere.
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On February 25 2013 05:17 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I'll talk about it more after dinner. I don't like Corazon already. If you've ever seen any of my other games, you'll find that no one ever likes me...
Let's not start with the "woe is me" attitude. Why did people not like you in your previous games, and what are you going to do about it this game?
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I can see this is going nowhere.
You guys do whatever you want. If town is fucking around like I think they will, I'm going to make sure SOMEONE that I think is mafia gets lynched.
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Why do you think town will? As far as I can see you're the one in the thread being retarded so far, so if it does it'll be because of people like you.
Like I said, the last thing town needs is someone like you playing the hero.
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yamato is town
clearly not shying away from the spotlight.
thats the only thing useful from the last page and a half
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On February 25 2013 06:59 marvellosity wrote:
Why do you think town will? As far as I can see you're the one in the thread being retarded so far, so if it does it'll be because of people like you.
Like I said, the last thing town needs is someone like you playing the hero.
The last thing town needs is a bunch of people yelling at each other to duel someone else.
But whatever, do what you want. I'm only going to duel someone if things go bad, which I think they will. If they go your way, good, but I doubt it. Town is rarely that cooperative.
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See LIX, town did whatever I told them to because I had the right answers.
If you go into the game thinking town is going to fuck up, that's a self-fulfilling prophecy. I don't see any reason why things should 'go bad', and your attitude is unnecessarily negative.
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On February 25 2013 07:02 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 06:59 marvellosity wrote:
Why do you think town will? As far as I can see you're the one in the thread being retarded so far, so if it does it'll be because of people like you.
Like I said, the last thing town needs is someone like you playing the hero. The last thing town needs is a bunch of people yelling at each other to duel someone else. But whatever, do what you want. I'm only going to duel someone if things go bad, which I think they will. If they go your way, good, but I doubt it. Town is rarely that cooperative.
meh you just haven't experienced many good towns im gonna guess
mafia will be under pressure from this setup im gonna guess since time is on our side. And looking at the player list some of the better players will likely be town so we will be able to sweat the mafia i would say
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On February 25 2013 05:17 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
yeah I'll talk about it more after dinner. I don't like Corazon already. If you've ever seen any of my other games, you'll find that no one ever likes me...
Because of your piss poor attitude when things don't go exactly the way you want it to.
Anyways, I odn't see anything that's particularly out of the ordinary about the policy that Hapa is suggesting. I think even as a blue role it might be better to just put yourself out there and have a good defense. Reluctance makes you suspicious in town eyes, as well as suspicious on the mafia side.
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On February 25 2013 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
See LIX, town did whatever I told them to because I had the right answers.
If you go into the game thinking town is going to fuck up, that's a self-fulfilling prophecy. I don't see any reason why things should 'go bad', and your attitude is unnecessarily negative.
I'm a realist.
LIX had you, Sandro, toad, and wbg leading town. I have no idea if you're even town yet and I probably won't for a while, so no, I'm not comfortable with this town becoming a sheep fest, and I don't think it should even if you are town.
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On February 25 2013 07:04 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2013 07:02 yamato77 wrote:On February 25 2013 06:59 marvellosity wrote:
Why do you think town will? As far as I can see you're the one in the thread being retarded so far, so if it does it'll be because of people like you.
Like I said, the last thing town needs is someone like you playing the hero. The last thing town needs is a bunch of people yelling at each other to duel someone else. But whatever, do what you want. I'm only going to duel someone if things go bad, which I think they will. If they go your way, good, but I doubt it. Town is rarely that cooperative. meh you just haven't experienced many good towns im gonna guess mafia will be under pressure from this setup im gonna guess since time is on our side. And looking at the player list some of the better players will likely be town so we will be able to sweat the mafia i would say
We'll see.
That's the last I'm going to say on the matter.
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Being unnecessarily negative isn't realistic.
And good town != sheepfest. There are plenty of good towns, and I'll tell you for free that none of these good towns had guys in them telling the rest of town things were gonna get fucked up.
Anyway, i'm done with you for now.
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