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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
When I play the game I don't "think consolidately". I find a bunch of stuff and have a bunch of thoughts, which can't really be "consolidated" into a nice single perfect post. I'm going to my aunts house in like 1 hour anyway so I'll let you guys breathe for a moment  | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Never really understood the "mayor candidacy" protocols here at LI :/ | ||
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DearestSnot
Germany200 Posts
Also I want to kill prplhz because his attitude seems very self-centered. I think scum would care about their own appearance more than townies. I would have called him out earlier but I was wondering if he would become active again when I posted my suspicion, and sure enough he came back simply to ask me why I think he is scum. | ||
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DearestSnot
Germany200 Posts
I'm wbg  | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On January 20 2013 22:05 Vivax wrote: @ Axle If you read the first lines of my candidacy, you should know I'm in the CET time zone. I said I'm south of Rome. That wasn't flavour. I'll let you know that I disregard your play, and quoting you again and answering to your points will be just another waste of time. You aren't hunting scum, you are tunneling a player and circle-jerking over single lines. You said you played two games, right? Well, if you are town, then start considering that there are 5 scum in this game. Or are you just trying to make my candidacy look bad? Well, no one seems willing to vote me yet, so why bother? I am curious though. What is your read on JieXian? I suppose you don't think I'm town? What do you make of Djo dodging my question? Do you have a read on him? sarcasm: I am so pleased you disregard my play. I am not sure i will yours...except i will be explicit and say what bit. The candidacy and questions is fluff, BUT as a mayoral candidate I needed to know just how well thought out it was how 'crisp' your mind is blah blah. At the same time how you respond to the questioning... aka I was scum hunting YOU. For no particular reason other than i had data. I know it may not look like I was because you have you r PM and all but I dont. There are questions and there are fluff questions, I dont recall Djo dodging a real question. Especially not a question about him, or one i was real keen for him to answer, you would need to clarify. I read below that you got ninjad so I assume your question is the one where you seek other opinions (on what i am going to call,) your easy JieXian wagon although you did appear to hijack it from Sandroba. I have an opinion on JieXian, my opinion is you presumably ought be pressuring him since its your wagon, I as good townie wont piss in that puddle and add waste excessive pressure, unless i personally think it is on to something. That Djo Jumped to your question is to me :/ , this opening sentence is for me fine "I think that JieXian is a lynch-bait when he is town." as sharing such things is probably(?) benficial, well they are for me as meta reads are for me rare and expensive as I am new. Personally I think you ought consider just how experienced you think JieXian is before you run him into the ground over trivialities and play styles that might well just fit. "I suppose you don't think I'm town?" I get bad feel by all these questions for other people opinions when i am not seeing yours.... yet,,, you do have some dont you? I think I want to stop asking you questions for now... it is as you say getting to tunneled proportions, but from my perspective it is mainly because you reacted so defensively to my questions about your candidacy as if they were accusations about being scum. Until you did that... you seemed townish. Now, well that would be telling wouldn't it. I am myself just out of bed so am progressing through the thread thus although the time stamps dont look like it I think I am ninja by this I see 4 things: → getting gonzaw elected → defending Axle → drive-by-shitthrowing at me without even caring about commenting on anything I wrote. → Joking with Toad about something from earlier games. He simply looks like he doesn't give a fuck about scum hunting. Which is I think your explanation of why you were band wagoning JieXian and seeking widely for any support you could find. I dont see your view at all. it seems seriously irrational. The vote on Gonzaw was a vote and early vote at least as justified as some. If telling me to post intelligibly is defending me then? From who? The joke i see with Gonzaw but dont get ...? Appears to be on the last line of his first post. I see no shit throwing or mention of you for your point three. I see nothing of interest to me. It is waste of my time. I think I want to stop asking you questions for now... I also plan to stop answering fluff ones. | ||
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Vivax
22420 Posts
1st of all: Tell us who you want to lynch. Tell us about your pool of favourite candidates. Tell us about the "sandroba" matter you were talking about earlier. + Show Spoiler + On January 20 2013 15:17 gonzaw wrote: )You do realize it's a completely different kind of game than "standard" mafia right? The anti-town factions in that game weren't trying to hide like they do in normal games. I'm good at catching the anti-town guys trying to hide  Toad, what do you make of sandro not running for mayor? He didn't post anything other than that too, although I think he made another one-liner. For the life of me I can't figure out a "plan" town sandro can come up with that doesn't deal with him being mayor, so he's either bullshitting or severely sub-optimally playing (from his POV if he's town). Anyways it's getting late so Imma play some fifa and go to sleep You didn't talk about this matter any more? What is your opinion on sandro? Did you consider Toads' answer in reaching your judgement? On January 21 2013 05:43 gonzaw wrote: @Vivax: You being AFK after your candidacy post was weird because I'd think a townie would post his candidacy and hang around for a while to respond to questions. You going afk seemed too sudden as well. If you say you were sleeping, then I guess that's null and there's nothing we can do about it, since it's most likely true regardless of your alignment. Well, assume for a moment that I didn't go to sleep, since that's what you assumed initially. How would a player posting a candidacy and then simply lurking and not answering questions be mafia? What exactly would mafia want to accomplish by doing that? On January 21 2013 05:43 gonzaw wrote: I'm not enjoying this "aggressiveness" you are showing Vivax, seems too needlessly provocative. Although you running for mayor in the first place (while being considered "not-vet" by most of us) doesn't really seem like something you'd do as scum, and maybe this "aggressiveness" stuff just means you are getting over-excited or something. Meh, certainly not enough to make any call other than leaning slightly town on you (gut feeling) so I'll let that pass. Can you show me where I'm aggressive? Can you show me where I'm not? Do you think that pressuring people to give out information is aggressiveness? Didn't you like my play? On January 21 2013 05:43 gonzaw wrote: I do have to say that I agree with austin that JieXian's 1st post wasn't as "scummy" as many people (you+sandro) pointed out, it's null at worst. I think the 1st posts from many other people would be "far" more scummy (in relation, not objectively at least), like our guy Stutters' up there, and maybe other's like FiveTouch, or maybe even debears. Expand on why you think JieXian's post looks townie. If it's null, tell me what about JieXian makes you think he's not to worry about. On January 21 2013 05:43 gonzaw wrote: Why did you give Jiexian so much flak Vivax? Why did you instantly want to lynch him instead of other's (based on their 1st post as well)? Do you want me to tell my scumreads that I really like them and that I don't want to lynch them? I am sure that's the way to get them talking /sarcasm. Bad question. Sorry bro, I thought you were the vet. JieXian was around, he was my top scumread, so he gets the flak. It's not hard. + Show Spoiler + On January 21 2013 05:43 gonzaw wrote: Speaking of those, 5's first post is somewhat suspicious: First statement in the whole game and it's just to cast doubt on someone random from the thread. Of course not mentioning the unfounded vote on austin...which to be honest is more of a null tell than scum tell since I can't really see much benefit to do so as scum, other than the usual "create chaos/wifom" strategy. He doesn't come in to post his thoughts on any current discussion, nor to be part of any discussion/etc. That's what townies usually do, to try to establish a nice town atmosphere, get info, and establish their innocence. Reminds me of JingleHell's first posts in Aperture Mafia 2 (where he was scum and i called him out for basically the same thing). There's not much about debears other than a "derp" start, so let's just wait and see what he does when he comes back. Don't you think it's a legitimate statement? Oats said: "JieXian only expressed a mayor preference, didn't specify anything else. Still, why call him scum?" According to you and Oats we should just ignore posts like these? We got explanations and reactions out JieXian, and that's not cause people were nice to him. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 07:15 DearestSnot wrote: Lol I just failsmurfed. I'm wbg where did you failsmurf? Am I missing something? oO Also yeah, gonzaw is TL's very own Boxxy. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 21 2013 05:43 gonzaw wrote: Speaking of those, 5's first post is somewhat suspicious: First statement in the whole game and it's just to cast doubt on someone random from the thread. Of course not mentioning the unfounded vote on austin...which to be honest is more of a null tell than scum tell since I can't really see much benefit to do so as scum, other than the usual "create chaos/wifom" strategy. That's because I find what Oats said to be the scummiest thing in the thread at the time, and I still feel that way. Given this is a mayoral election day, there is no risk whatsoever of a fast bandwagon on to JieXian, so his defence of him was completely unwarranted. Why did Oats not want any pressure on JieXian? Oats wasn't even defending his play, rather the fact there was pressure on him. It's scummy. I voted for austin (and missed the voting thread) because I liked the wording he picked up in Toad's post, it looked like a townie mindset to me. sandroba not running for mayor is concerning in of itself, and his reason (decided before the game) is a weak one. I was kind of ok letting it slide, except he's now compounded it by not giving any input to the thread as well. As a prime player, if he's town, he should be using his expertise to help town come to good decisions, and he's distinctly not doing so. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
Him promising to play normally in future days is not alignment indicative, and it's a terrible reason to elect a mayor. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
I agree on chezinu. He needs to input more to the thread. I was expecting a lot more from him considering the reputation and kneepad job debears gave. But i dont like at all voting austin off that 1post. To me either u fling your vote with wild abandon .or. Know something special i dont.. Cause for concern either way. Having said that. I liked austinmcc answers to my questions BUT this came after you voted. fivetouch The other strong candidate .at least in toads eyes. Is gonzaw. Assuming both are town. Whose reasonings so far are u going to stick with for a vote and why.. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On January 20 2013 23:39 Clarity_nl wrote: No there's no one I'd like to lynch yet. I'll promote my campaign by scumhunting and asking people to vote for me if they agree with reads I'm making. "But clarity you haven't made any reads!" Yep, true. Will have time to analyze stuff tonight, so far I've just read the thread to keep up. What's with all the questions djo, you seem to have this "scatterfire" approach where you ask a person 3-4 questions. It doesn't fit either of your metas @ Clarity Are you still around ? I think ”tonight” is over soon in your place, why did you fail to provode anything yet ? | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 21 2013 08:08 Mocsta wrote: Hmmm tough. I agree on chezinu. He needs to input more to the thread. I was expecting a lot more from him considering the reputation and kneepad job debears gave. But i dont like at all voting austin off that 1post. To me either u fling your vote with wild abandon .or. Know something special i dont.. Cause for concern either way. Having said that. I liked austinmcc answers to my questions BUT this came after you voted. fivetouch The other strong candidate .at least in toads eyes. Is gonzaw. Assuming both are town. Whose reasonings so far are u going to stick with for a vote and why.. This just means I saw something before you were able to see it. The rest of your questions are pointless. Do you think scum would have read Toad's post closely enough to pick out something on the exact way it was phrased, and then comment/explain it? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 08:14 FiveTouch wrote: No particular reason. well you're paying attention, so wouldn't mind voting you... Although I don't like giving away the kind of information you're giving away right now because it opens up all possibilities of being manipulated, but that's fine with me right now. You seem like you know what you're doing. Can I convince you to run for mayor? :p | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On January 21 2013 07:47 FiveTouch wrote: sandroba not running for mayor is concerning in of itself, and his reason (decided before the game) is a weak one. I was kind of ok letting it slide, except he's now compounded it by not giving any input to the thread as well. As a prime player, if he's town, he should be using his expertise to help town come to good decisions, and he's distinctly not doing so. On January 21 2013 08:14 FiveTouch wrote: No particular reason. Explain how Sandro's answer is scummy and yours not so? | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 21 2013 08:19 Toadesstern wrote: well you're paying attention, so wouldn't mind voting you... Although I don't like giving away the kind of information you're giving away right now because it opens up all possibilities of being manipulated, but that's fine with me right now. You seem like you know what you're doing. Can I convince you to run for mayor? :p What kind of information are you referring to? Being mayor would be terrific, but I'm not going to run a platform to try to get people to vote for me. | ||
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Vivax
22420 Posts
I would prefer you as mayor over all current other options, and I'm not going to lynch you cause you hit the wrong target once or twice. But I demand an open hear to this promising newcomer I am, and I want to communicate that I am a good candidate for mayor too. I don't trust all others, just clarity if he impresses me with the reads he's going to come up with. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 21 2013 08:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Explain how Sandro's answer is scummy and yours not so? sandroba is one of the strongest players ever seen on the forum, I'm some random guy. For the same reason I don't find you scummy for not running for mayor. You're not sandroba. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
That is the easiest time to buddy up to people as far as i am concerned. I think the q is valid. Between gonzaw and austin u have chosen austin thus far.. The reasoning being 1 post that made u feel like cuddles afterwards. Is that how u vote for your politicians too? Fact. Both have shared scum read insight since.your.vote. I want to know which candidates insight aligns best with you and why. | ||
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