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yamato77
11589 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
If this guy is really WBG like he said he's mafia. If he's not WBG idk. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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DearestSnot
Germany200 Posts
read this. On November 15 2011 19:17 prplhz wrote: I think any policy lynch is stupid, and LAW (lynch-all-wherebugsgos) is one of the more stupid policies to lynch by. You want to just lock down the lynch on him without any discussion? Then how are we supposed to catch scum? If we lynch him based on nothing (he hasn't posted in the thread yet) then there's like 22% chance that he will be scum. That means that you want to sacrifice the following: 1 cycle of discussion 1 townie from NK ... in exchange for the following: 22% chance to hit a scum, a whopping 78% chance to hit a townie. Tell me why you think this is a good deal? I am quite aware that Palmar is just trying to make discussion, so am I, now lets discuss. Now, what did prplhz say in his first post? I will lynch Chezinu, non negotiable. That was the fourth post following the daypost, and Chezinu hadn't even posted yet. Secondly, compared to his most recent games, the ones I'm looking at are Pick your Poison and GSL Open, Dwarf Mini, etc. my initial impression is that he seems to be following more his mafia style than his town style. As town he quickly starts looking to kill scum. He asks questions as both alignments, but he doesn't solely ask questions as town. He also does some of his own work, and his questions are at the very least aligned toward accomplishing something. I don't see that here. In addition to that, he delurked right when I called him out, and has done nothing to actually indicate that he is interested in killing scum, or even electing a mayor who would kill scum. I looked over XLVII (the massive shitfest game where he was scum) but he seemed to post a lot more fluff there and as far as I can remember he played scum quite differently there than he did in other games. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 21 2013 09:30 austinmcc wrote: I guess the above isn't a full thought. If you don't consider Chezinu a candidate for mayor, I think you're being silly. He's a risky pick because he could be scum and he doesn't seem particularly readable before the election ends, plus he might just be chezinu as mayor, but in a vacuum he's a solid mayor candidate and you shouldn't write him off. This post makes no sense. The fact that it's extremely hard to get a confident town-read on Chezinu so early is precisely why it's ok to write him off as a candidate. | ||
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DearestSnot
Germany200 Posts
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DearestSnot
Germany200 Posts
On January 21 2013 09:30 Toadesstern wrote: because he just said he wants to be sheriff and is buddying this fivetouch guy way to hard. If this guy is really WBG like he said he's mafia. If he's not WBG idk. I'm mafia by virtue of my identity? Cool story bro, you're dumb by virtue of yours. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On January 21 2013 09:25 austinmcc wrote: The times that I've seen Chezinu give reads, they've been QUITE good. He also, in my mind, has some other qualities that I want in a mayor - someone that scum is going to have a hard time misleading and someone who can deal with being masoned well. My problem with Chezinu is that I don't know him enough to be confident in my read on him. Also the fact that he seems hard to read because his style doesn't look difficult to emulate as mafia. And I think that's the case for several players here as well. That's the reasons why I'm not conformable with Chez being elected. So far, I could see gonzaw, austin, vivax and Toad in the positions of sherrif and mayor. Because I think they are town, and also because they are active and try to move the thread forward. I encourage everybody to think not only about the mayor, but also about the sherrif, and remind that we absolutely don't want a mafia player on these spots. I'm going to wait which player these guys want to lynch before making my decision. @ Chez Who do you want to lynch so far ? I'm asking you because you are a candidate, and I think that runners have to be transparent to everybody. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On January 21 2013 09:33 DearestSnot wrote: I'm mafia by virtue of my identity? Cool story bro, you're dumb by virtue of yours. He is WBG, he derped in Dessert Mini Mafia. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 21 2013 09:20 Vivax wrote: Yamato, you seem to not be able or willing to view things from my position. I do care a lot about who becomes mayor, hence my initial candidacy. Why am I just voting the guy who is seen as the strongest town player in here and at the same time the guy who finds JieXian scummy along with me? You only mention the "if he's scum"-argument, that looks like you have a predisposition to paint me scummy in the first place... Why would you want to vote for Chezinu? That is something people that don't care about town would do. I wouldn't put my faith into a guy who speaks in riddles. Your response is that I have confirmation bias because I chose to ignore the parts of your post that anyone could make (town Sandro being good for mayor, etc.) in favor of focusing on the things in your post that I find scummy, which is a general disinterest in the candidates who seem the towniest at the moment, your illogical justification of voting for Sandroba when you can't possibly have a town read on him, and your baseless attack on Chezinu. You have yet to address any of that. All you did was repeat yourself and do all of it some more. Another silly justification for voting Sandroba. Another attack on Chezinu. Put a gun to my head right now and I lynch you. Town makes me mayor and I fulfill that promise. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 21 2013 09:32 FiveTouch wrote: I don't like writing someone off as unreadable. It's so lazy to just say "Chez hard to read and silly" and completely ignore the "Chez often has very, very good reads" aspect.This post makes no sense. The fact that it's extremely hard to get a confident town-read on Chezinu so early is precisely why it's ok to write him off as a candidate. He's got enough upside if he's town and in the mayor position that it's worth considering him and trying to read him. | ||
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Vivax
22420 Posts
So, are you in favour of a Chez or a DearestSnot mayor now? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On January 21 2013 08:35 Clarity_nl wrote: Life and things, but you know me, I stay up late generally. Currently reading Not done with reading yet ? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Most games he is trying to be that way because he doesn't want mafia to shoot him, but this game he seems to be playing straight up which makes him way easier to read and understand. So the attack is baseless and scummy to make. Chez is not a bad candidate for mayor. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 21 2013 09:31 DearestSnot wrote: GM, fivetouch or whomever you are: read this. Now, what did prplhz say in his first post? I will lynch Chezinu, non negotiable. That was the fourth post following the daypost, and Chezinu hadn't even posted yet. Secondly, compared to his most recent games, the ones I'm looking at are Pick your Poison and GSL Open, Dwarf Mini, etc. my initial impression is that he seems to be following more his mafia style than his town style. As town he quickly starts looking to kill scum. He asks questions as both alignments, but he doesn't solely ask questions as town. He also does some of his own work, and his questions are at the very least aligned toward accomplishing something. I don't see that here. In addition to that, he delurked right when I called him out, and has done nothing to actually indicate that he is interested in killing scum, or even electing a mayor who would kill scum. I looked over XLVII (the massive shitfest game where he was scum) but he seemed to post a lot more fluff there and as far as I can remember he played scum quite differently there than he did in other games. Ok, I can roll with this read. I looked up two of his recent town-games, and in one he lurked and got lynched Day 1 (Mad Men Mafia). In both games (Rock Band, Mad Men) he opened up by asking people to consolidate and not spam, whereas in his mafia games he opens in a more trolly style - in Dwarf he came in laughing that he hadn't read the thread, in Normal mini mafia 2 he spammed votes down. Similar with GSL Open. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
why would i "delurk" when you call me out but not when sandroba called me out? that makes no sense, sandroba is SANDROBA and you're just some german with a low post count. it makes a lot more sense that i was just around at that particular time especially considering that it was around 6pm iirc. no i'm not worrying too much about who to lynch right now. i read gonzaw and he seems like a perfectly good mayor candidate to me and the scum reads i have are pretty i'm not sure about them at all. that's why i asked who he wanted to lynch, so i could read up on that person. i don't see the JX thing that sandro sees. i don't really care for you irrationally going for me because i seem to recall that you do that i most of your games. i think it's really weird that you're not spamming more though but maybe that's because you were smurfing and you didn't want to play like you usually do, you picked it up after you revealed yourself. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 21 2013 09:33 DearestSnot wrote: I'm mafia by virtue of my identity? Cool story bro, you're dumb by virtue of yours. you are an ass if your town. You haven't been so far. You are buddying slightly if your mafia, you have so far. you posted this one: On January 21 2013 08:56 DearestSnot wrote: Your rule is the one that the first person to call you scum is scum? I actually don't remember. I'd be down to kill Oats. You guys wanna elect me to mayor? I'll lynch Oats or prplhz. I'm going to ignore any mayoral candidates who have no intention of lynching into those two. FT would you be down with that? If so, we should run for mayor together, and then we can take mayor/sheriff. which is a highly problematic post. While I can see that you want prplhz and I can understand why, the "ignoring everyone else who disagrees" is just bullshit. The last part about becomming mayor / sheriff together is really something I don't want someone to post.. TL;DR Kind of. The first 2 points are about you and how you usually post. The last points about the that one post has nothing to do with who you are. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 21 2013 09:40 Vivax wrote: Why on earth are those the two options? I'm in favor of NEITHER of those guys for mayor.Good to know. So, are you in favour of a Chez or a DearestSnot mayor now? Chez hasn't been around too much, I don't have a solid town read on him, therefore I don't want to vote him. Bugs isn't doing anything for me atm. The guys he wants to kill aren't the guys I'm most interested in killing, but I don't have much in the way of thoughts on him beyond that. Toad is still my non-me candidate of choice, with me being my me candidate of choice, I think. | ||
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Vivax
22420 Posts
On January 21 2013 09:40 Vivax wrote: Good to know. So, are you in favour of a Chez or a DearestSnot mayor now? Hello yamato. Why would you like a dearestsnot election? Who do you think is scum besides me? | ||
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yamato77
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