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FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
January 21 2013 00:50 GMT
#461
On January 21 2013 09:39 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:32 FiveTouch wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:30 austinmcc wrote:
I guess the above isn't a full thought. If you don't consider Chezinu a candidate for mayor, I think you're being silly. He's a risky pick because he could be scum and he doesn't seem particularly readable before the election ends, plus he might just be chezinu as mayor, but in a vacuum he's a solid mayor candidate and you shouldn't write him off.


This post makes no sense. The fact that it's extremely hard to get a confident town-read on Chezinu so early is precisely why it's ok to write him off as a candidate.
I don't like writing someone off as unreadable. It's so lazy to just say "Chez hard to read and silly" and completely ignore the "Chez often has very, very good reads" aspect.

He's got enough upside if he's town and in the mayor position that it's worth considering him and trying to read him.


Chezinu rarely, if ever, starts coming up with his good reads during the first cycle. And we are electing a mayor in the first cycle. So yes, I am writing him off. Unless you have some hitherto unheard of method of reading Chezinu on day 1 that you would like to share with us?
Artanis & marv
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
January 21 2013 00:52 GMT
#462
It wasn't directed at you, but I appreciate that you answered austin.

I find it concerning that you first defend a Chezinu election and then say you wouldn't vote for him. I thought you would be pushing your favourite candidate besides yourself.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 21 2013 00:52 GMT
#463
On January 21 2013 09:49 Vivax wrote:
@ Yamato

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:40 Vivax wrote:
Good to know.

So, are you in favour of a Chez or a DearestSnot mayor now?



Hello yamato.

Why would you like a dearestsnot election?

Who do you think is scum besides me?

Did I say I would like a bugs election? I don't think so. I wanted to know why Toad didn't, but not because I did.

I'm not sure yet. People are doing some weird shit this game.
Writer@WriterYamato
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
January 21 2013 00:52 GMT
#464
Consolidated heads up post.

Status
We appear to me to be largely eating our own, but hey maybe it is all still shits an giggles, I must admit the banter based emotive cattle prod approach that vets seem to use on one another goes over my head as I dont know what the expected responses to emotive based prodding between them is meant to be. Its one thing for me to evaluate how good vet is and see if they are consistent with that. But when one prods another with apparent to me(IMHO?) BS, guessing how much the prodded player believes or just laughs at the first player requires me to know how good each vet really thinks the other is: Tough shit.

And guys I am not here to tell you how to play, but its not doing me much good. If the vets are indeed on the short list for the nks, then the vets not nkd are on the short list for the paranoia Lynch due to "why are you not dead yet bro", then the rest of us have to pick up the crumbs... not feeling the love. I am feeling damn uneasy about the knowledge I'd be taking into D2 so far. Too much mayor shit.




@mkfuba07

Hard core 24hr Lurkers give that itchy feeling... Why do you even play?

On January 19 2013 08:19 mkfuba07 wrote:
Some forewarning: A friend's birthday is tomorrow so I'll be out right around when the game starts. I probably won't be able to post for the first few hours (possibly the first 12 hours or so).


Ok So RL is a real thing....
We are approaching 24 hours... are you planning on actually playing or just the dying part?

D1 reads and posts can be hard, considering mayoral posts are way easy, whats the problem?

There may currently be no lynch pressure on you but that is not the only risk to purposefully unreadables and thus probably not IMO the way you would leave this world. Big games have different mechanics to minis.
(Allegorical mode on) (maybe this will help)
You may not be feeling it but you look like you're on the edge. I don't tell scum how to play, and i have not told you, but standing on the edge like you seem you are is not playing like either? Huh? There are people here that know stuff about how to play and where the edge is for them that i dont, you do not appear to be one of them. Step away from the edge if your town bro, if your scum go right ahead being confused about which way away is.
(allegorical mode off)




@Debears is there a reason your filter is disproportionately short? Why didn't you claim SK, or do something else outrageous yet?
or was that your Chezinu vote?




Oh my slim pickings there too. At least I am in game where not everyone looks like scum.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 21 2013 00:54 GMT
#465
I'm finally back after an... interesting birthday celebration. It took me longer than I expected to get time to post.

I, myself, will not be running for mayor for reasons I feel are obvious to anyone who's seen me play. After a pretty quick read through the thread, I would feel most comfortable voting austin for mayor because he's an option that I'm familiar with.

##Vote austinmcc

I still have more reading to do before I get any significant scumreads, but if anyone wants me to answer anything I'll be here for a few hours.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
January 21 2013 00:55 GMT
#466
On January 21 2013 09:52 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:49 Vivax wrote:
@ Yamato

On January 21 2013 09:40 Vivax wrote:
Good to know.

So, are you in favour of a Chez or a DearestSnot mayor now?



Hello yamato.

Why would you like a dearestsnot election?

Who do you think is scum besides me?

Did I say I would like a bugs election? I don't think so. I wanted to know why Toad didn't, but not because I did.

I'm not sure yet. People are doing some weird shit this game.


1. And why would you want to know why Toad wouldn't want to elect WBG if you don't want to elect him?

2. Wrong answer bro. You find people scummy for attacking Chezinu? Why only me and not FH or prplhz? Cause I want to elect the potentially strongest townie into that seat?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 21 2013 00:55 GMT
#467
EE HAN TIMING, THIS GUY.
Writer@WriterYamato
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 00:55 GMT
#468
On January 21 2013 09:52 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:49 Vivax wrote:
@ Yamato

On January 21 2013 09:40 Vivax wrote:
Good to know.

So, are you in favour of a Chez or a DearestSnot mayor now?



Hello yamato.

Why would you like a dearestsnot election?

Who do you think is scum besides me?

Did I say I would like a bugs election? I don't think so. I wanted to know why Toad didn't, but not because I did.

I'm not sure yet. People are doing some weird shit this game.

like what?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 21 2013 00:56 GMT
#469
On January 21 2013 09:50 FiveTouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:39 austinmcc wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:32 FiveTouch wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:30 austinmcc wrote:
I guess the above isn't a full thought. If you don't consider Chezinu a candidate for mayor, I think you're being silly. He's a risky pick because he could be scum and he doesn't seem particularly readable before the election ends, plus he might just be chezinu as mayor, but in a vacuum he's a solid mayor candidate and you shouldn't write him off.


This post makes no sense. The fact that it's extremely hard to get a confident town-read on Chezinu so early is precisely why it's ok to write him off as a candidate.
I don't like writing someone off as unreadable. It's so lazy to just say "Chez hard to read and silly" and completely ignore the "Chez often has very, very good reads" aspect.

He's got enough upside if he's town and in the mayor position that it's worth considering him and trying to read him.


Chezinu rarely, if ever, starts coming up with his good reads during the first cycle. And we are electing a mayor in the first cycle. So yes, I am writing him off. Unless you have some hitherto unheard of method of reading Chezinu on day 1 that you would like to share with us?
Nope, unless I should make something up.


On January 21 2013 09:52 Vivax wrote:
It wasn't directed at you, but I appreciate that you answered austin.

I find it concerning that you first defend a Chezinu election and then say you wouldn't vote for him. I thought you would be pushing your favourite candidate besides yourself.

Read closer. I give my reasoning why I think he should be a candidate, and on what conditions I think he's someone to vote for. Those conditions haven't been met, therefore he's not someone I want to vote for atm. And yes, as FT notes, they may be conditions that simply can't be met, maybe you can't get a read on Chez D1, but oh well, still gonna try.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 21 2013 00:59 GMT
#470
On January 21 2013 09:52 AxleGreaser wrote:
[Stuff that has nothing to do with dogs and snowmen]

Fe fi fo fum.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 21 2013 01:02 GMT
#471
On January 21 2013 09:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:52 yamato77 wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:49 Vivax wrote:
@ Yamato

On January 21 2013 09:40 Vivax wrote:
Good to know.

So, are you in favour of a Chez or a DearestSnot mayor now?



Hello yamato.

Why would you like a dearestsnot election?

Who do you think is scum besides me?

Did I say I would like a bugs election? I don't think so. I wanted to know why Toad didn't, but not because I did.

I'm not sure yet. People are doing some weird shit this game.


1. And why would you want to know why Toad wouldn't want to elect WBG if you don't want to elect him?

2. Wrong answer bro. You find people scummy for attacking Chezinu? Why only me and not FH or prplhz? Cause I want to elect the potentially strongest townie into that seat?

Are you, like, trying to OMGUS me right here or something, because I'm not sure if you're being intentionally thick just to try to make me look bad or if you're actually this stupid.

Why wouldn't I want to know why Toad doesn't want WBG elected?

I find your attack on Chezinu scummy. I didn't say anything about anyone else, nor do I necessarily agree with the "Chezinu Rule" concept. The way you dismissed everyone I consider to be a candidate worth voting for just to justify your useless vote on Sandroba was scummy. The fact that you took extra special attention to blowing off Chezinu makes me think you simply want to discredit his candidacy for reasons I have yet to hear from your mouth.

Comprende, hombre?
Writer@WriterYamato
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 01:05 GMT
#472
what do you guys think about making sure some idiot we all know to be town ends up being sheriff?

I really don't think we should have people like Bugs, Chez or gonzaw sitting on a sheriff role, being unable to be DT-checked by anyone. Most people feel probably the same way about me, so if you're not having access to my TL-PMs you might want to add me to that list as well.

I don't think the sheriff powers are that great, besides having bodyguards. Sure, 3-time Jailer but it's something even a noob should be capable to do. Just tell him to not offensively jail and we're good.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
January 21 2013 01:05 GMT
#473
Vivax, are you serious about wanting to becoming mayor or were you just trolling the thread?
No gg, No skill.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 21 2013 01:08 GMT
#474
On January 21 2013 10:05 Toadesstern wrote:
what do you guys think about making sure some idiot we all know to be town ends up being sheriff?

I really don't think we should have people like Bugs, Chez or gonzaw sitting on a sheriff role, being unable to be DT-checked by anyone. Most people feel probably the same way about me, so if you're not having access to my TL-PMs you might want to add me to that list as well.

I don't think the sheriff powers are that great, besides having bodyguards. Sure, 3-time Jailer but it's something even a noob should be capable to do. Just tell him to not offensively jail and we're good.


@ Toad

Who do you suggest ? I like that idea.
Does yamato look town enough for you ? I could see him sherrif right now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22180 Posts
January 21 2013 01:09 GMT
#475
On January 21 2013 10:02 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:55 Vivax wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:52 yamato77 wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:49 Vivax wrote:
@ Yamato

On January 21 2013 09:40 Vivax wrote:
Good to know.

So, are you in favour of a Chez or a DearestSnot mayor now?



Hello yamato.

Why would you like a dearestsnot election?

Who do you think is scum besides me?

Did I say I would like a bugs election? I don't think so. I wanted to know why Toad didn't, but not because I did.

I'm not sure yet. People are doing some weird shit this game.


1. And why would you want to know why Toad wouldn't want to elect WBG if you don't want to elect him?

2. Wrong answer bro. You find people scummy for attacking Chezinu? Why only me and not FH or prplhz? Cause I want to elect the potentially strongest townie into that seat?

Are you, like, trying to OMGUS me right here or something, because I'm not sure if you're being intentionally thick just to try to make me look bad or if you're actually this stupid.

Why wouldn't I want to know why Toad doesn't want WBG elected?

I find your attack on Chezinu scummy. I didn't say anything about anyone else, nor do I necessarily agree with the "Chezinu Rule" concept. The way you dismissed everyone I consider to be a candidate worth voting for just to justify your useless vote on Sandroba was scummy. The fact that you took extra special attention to blowing off Chezinu makes me think you simply want to discredit his candidacy for reasons I have yet to hear from your mouth.

Comprende, hombre?


1. Cause

a) In reality you don't give a shit about WBG being elected
b) You don't suspect Toad to be scum anyway.

So your question was pointless, you just tried to ask some random shit to look like you're contributing.

2. I don't want to vote for Chezinu cause he trolls and is almost impossible to read. The Chezinu rule has nothing to do with this, you're just mentioning it for I don't know what reason. Probably cause you can't explain why you ignore everyone else speaking against a Chezinu mayor.

I am scummy for voting the strongest town player in here. Ok. Speaks for itself.

Yamato is scum.
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 21 2013 01:09 GMT
#476
Toad: I think that sounds good, but who is "some idiot we all know to be town"? How do we find and agree on someone like that?
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 21 2013 01:13 GMT
#477
On January 21 2013 09:32 DearestSnot wrote:
also he doesn't even seem interested in discussion. I know he's awake, or was at least for the last 12 hours, but chose to actively lurk instead of providing some useful discussion material. I also know that as town he's not afraid to be at the center of attention. When he is town people routinely tell him to stfu because of what he says.

Actually I woke up a few hours ago. You are right, I am not posting much in the thread. It's like I am somewhere else. True. This is definitely a different sent up. You will have to read my games of long ago.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
January 21 2013 01:15 GMT
#478
On January 21 2013 09:33 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 09:25 austinmcc wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:20 Vivax wrote:
Why would you want to vote for Chezinu? That is something people that don't care about town would do. I wouldn't put my faith into a guy who speaks in riddles.
The times that I've seen Chezinu give reads, they've been QUITE good. He also, in my mind, has some other qualities that I want in a mayor - someone that scum is going to have a hard time misleading and someone who can deal with being masoned well.


My problem with Chezinu is that I don't know him enough to be confident in my read on him. Also the fact that he seems hard to read because his style doesn't look difficult to emulate as mafia. And I think that's the case for several players here as well. That's the reasons why I'm not conformable with Chez being elected.
So far, I could see gonzaw, austin, vivax and Toad in the positions of sherrif and mayor. Because I think they are town, and also because they are active and try to move the thread forward. I encourage everybody to think not only about the mayor, but also about the sherrif, and remind that we absolutely don't want a mafia player on these spots.
I'm going to wait which player these guys want to lynch before making my decision.

@ Chez

Who do you want to lynch so far ?
I'm asking you because you are a candidate, and I think that runners have to be transparent to everybody.

The Chezinu Rule! Ok, plainly. Prpl broke the Chezinu Rule. That's who I'm thinking at the moment.

It seems the mafia don't want me to be mayor. I think they are scarez! Maybe because they know I will lynch one of their own day 1? Is that it? Oh so you guys don't think you can get me killed after I start lynching you guys? I can act a bit crazy, if you makes you feel better. THen you mafias can vote for mes!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 21 2013 01:16 GMT
#479
On January 21 2013 10:09 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 10:02 yamato77 wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:55 Vivax wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:52 yamato77 wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:49 Vivax wrote:
@ Yamato

On January 21 2013 09:40 Vivax wrote:
Good to know.

So, are you in favour of a Chez or a DearestSnot mayor now?



Hello yamato.

Why would you like a dearestsnot election?

Who do you think is scum besides me?

Did I say I would like a bugs election? I don't think so. I wanted to know why Toad didn't, but not because I did.

I'm not sure yet. People are doing some weird shit this game.


1. And why would you want to know why Toad wouldn't want to elect WBG if you don't want to elect him?

2. Wrong answer bro. You find people scummy for attacking Chezinu? Why only me and not FH or prplhz? Cause I want to elect the potentially strongest townie into that seat?

Are you, like, trying to OMGUS me right here or something, because I'm not sure if you're being intentionally thick just to try to make me look bad or if you're actually this stupid.

Why wouldn't I want to know why Toad doesn't want WBG elected?

I find your attack on Chezinu scummy. I didn't say anything about anyone else, nor do I necessarily agree with the "Chezinu Rule" concept. The way you dismissed everyone I consider to be a candidate worth voting for just to justify your useless vote on Sandroba was scummy. The fact that you took extra special attention to blowing off Chezinu makes me think you simply want to discredit his candidacy for reasons I have yet to hear from your mouth.

Comprende, hombre?


1. Cause

a) In reality you don't give a shit about WBG being elected
b) You don't suspect Toad to be scum anyway.

So your question was pointless, you just tried to ask some random shit to look like you're contributing.

2. I don't want to vote for Chezinu cause he trolls and is almost impossible to read. The Chezinu rule has nothing to do with this, you're just mentioning it for I don't know what reason. Probably cause you can't explain why you ignore everyone else speaking against a Chezinu mayor.

I am scummy for voting the strongest town player in here. Ok. Speaks for itself.

Yamato is scum.

Wtf is this bullshit.

You're talking out your ass. Toad very well could be scum, how do you know I don't suspect him? Why would I turn down an opportunity to gain information on a player? Why is my fake contribution necessary when I've come up with a very good plan today and am hunting you as my scum target for today? None of that makes any fucking sense at all, you're just making up shit to look like you're suspicious of someone.

I don't really give two shits about what other people are saying about Chezinu, because their sentiments seem rational. Yours does not, isn't explained, and was thrown in alongside two other good town mayoral candidates in an attempt to sweep them all aside.

You're voting for Sandroba not because you think he's town, but because of the idea that IF he is town, he would be a good candidate. That's a bad reason right now and you're just parking your vote somewhere because you're not getting elected. You are reacting to no one taking your "campaign" seriously and it's scummy.

And now you're straight up OMGUSing me for no good reason when rational people think I'm town, because I am town and good at proving it.

You picked the wrong guy to fake-tunnel, scum.
Writer@WriterYamato
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 01:17 GMT
#480
On January 21 2013 10:08 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 10:05 Toadesstern wrote:
what do you guys think about making sure some idiot we all know to be town ends up being sheriff?

I really don't think we should have people like Bugs, Chez or gonzaw sitting on a sheriff role, being unable to be DT-checked by anyone. Most people feel probably the same way about me, so if you're not having access to my TL-PMs you might want to add me to that list as well.

I don't think the sheriff powers are that great, besides having bodyguards. Sure, 3-time Jailer but it's something even a noob should be capable to do. Just tell him to not offensively jail and we're good.


@ Toad

Who do you suggest ? I like that idea.
Does yamato look town enough for you ? I could see him sherrif right now.

I wouldn't suggest Yamato. He's very much "in your face" without thinking to much, which usually is a towntreat for him but there's some things that give me a headache about him.

Also: + Show Spoiler [debears] +
On January 20 2013 09:31 debears wrote:
/confirm
On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax

I support a chezinu election
On January 20 2013 11:01 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 11:00 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 20 2013 10:57 debears wrote:
I refuse to vote vivax

I support a chezinu election

that's the one guy out of the people I listed who is probably the hardest to read for everyone not being on TL playing mafia for 2 or 3 years. So why Chezinu?


I wanna see a serious chezinu. Besides, I heard he has pretty good reads.

Also, if I recall in his past games I've looked at, anytime he has a blue role he does well

You need to start posting debears.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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