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Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 19:27 GMT
#921
On December 19 2012 04:23 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:21 Crossfire99 wrote:
Sloosh, do you think it could be in any way dangerous to yourself?

It says it is a volatile device.

So random thoughts. This is pure speculation. Device could explode killing you if used across worlds. It could change abilities if used across worlds becoming more dangerous to target exists in other world. It could change abilities depending on the alignment of the target. After thinking about it, I think the first 2 options I listed could be likely, but I really have no idea. What do you think?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 19:32 GMT
#922
Sloosh, basically I think you should use it on scum or 3rd party in case it causes harm. I wouldn't use it on marv because he is at least helping more than darkfire.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 18 2012 19:36 GMT
#923
Using it on mafia is a terrible idea. An item that likely originated from mafia is very unlikely to do anything useful when used on mafia; in fact, it could lead to the worst outcome. Why would mafia give you an item that can be used to kill/rb/whatever mafia? Even assuming that it can be used to in some way harm mafia, wouldn't it make more sense to give the item to someone who is more likely to use it on a town aligned person (say, darkfire if he is somehow town)? I guess it's possible that the source of the item is a third party.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
December 18 2012 19:36 GMT
#924
I still think it does something with swaps. I just don't see scum giving me an item with loaded KP and expecting me to use it on town. Swaps are more neutral and as seen multiple times by Foolishness, are something scum seem to have more control over.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 19:38 GMT
#925
On December 19 2012 04:36 syllogism wrote:
Using it on mafia is a terrible idea. An item that likely originated from mafia is very unlikely to do anything useful when used on mafia; in fact, it could lead to the worst outcome. Why would mafia give you an item that can be used to kill/rb/whatever mafia? Even assuming that it can be used to in some way harm mafia, wouldn't it make more sense to give the item to someone who is more likely to use it on a town aligned person (say, darkfire if he is somehow town)? I guess it's possible that the source of the item is a third party.

So you think it should be used on 3rd party then?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 18 2012 19:38 GMT
#926
On December 19 2012 04:38 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:36 syllogism wrote:
Using it on mafia is a terrible idea. An item that likely originated from mafia is very unlikely to do anything useful when used on mafia; in fact, it could lead to the worst outcome. Why would mafia give you an item that can be used to kill/rb/whatever mafia? Even assuming that it can be used to in some way harm mafia, wouldn't it make more sense to give the item to someone who is more likely to use it on a town aligned person (say, darkfire if he is somehow town)? I guess it's possible that the source of the item is a third party.

So you think it should be used on 3rd party then?

If he has to target someone, yes
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 19:40 GMT
#927
On December 19 2012 04:38 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:38 Crossfire99 wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:36 syllogism wrote:
Using it on mafia is a terrible idea. An item that likely originated from mafia is very unlikely to do anything useful when used on mafia; in fact, it could lead to the worst outcome. Why would mafia give you an item that can be used to kill/rb/whatever mafia? Even assuming that it can be used to in some way harm mafia, wouldn't it make more sense to give the item to someone who is more likely to use it on a town aligned person (say, darkfire if he is somehow town)? I guess it's possible that the source of the item is a third party.

So you think it should be used on 3rd party then?

If he has to target someone, yes

Ok I agree that 3rd party is best. He said he has to use it, so sloosh, my advice is to choose 3rd party.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 18 2012 19:52 GMT
#928
Until I see a case made against me longer than 3 lines I'm ignoring anything anyone says about me
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 18 2012 19:58 GMT
#929
Still don't see how Risen is confirmed town lol

##Vote (GreY) randombum
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 19:59 GMT
#930
On December 19 2012 04:52 Foolishness wrote:
Until I see a case made against me longer than 3 lines I'm ignoring anything anyone says about me

So if you're not scum, who is the scum from our world (Chaos of Grey)? I've only colored the confirmed people green.

Clarity_nl
Crossfire99 (Confirmed not anti-town. Masoned with Risen)
Dienosore (dead)
Foolishness
Keirathi
Kenpachi (dead)
Marvellosity
Palmar (dead)
randombum
SlOosh (confirmed not anti-town)
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 18 2012 20:02 GMT
#931
On December 19 2012 04:59 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:52 Foolishness wrote:
Until I see a case made against me longer than 3 lines I'm ignoring anything anyone says about me

So if you're not scum, who is the scum from our world (Chaos of Grey)? I've only colored the confirmed people green.

Clarity_nl
Crossfire99 (Confirmed not anti-town. Masoned with Risen)
Dienosore (dead)
Foolishness
Keirathi
Kenpachi (dead)
Marvellosity
Palmar (dead)
randombum
SlOosh (confirmed not anti-town)

Unless they're dead they are not confirmed. If we're believing marvellosity's claim that he's 3rd party I honestly don't know who the last one out of the bunch is. I don't think it's you, I don't think it's syllogism because he exists in both worlds (which would mean there's only 3 mafia, and that's not likely), so sloosh or keirathi; pick the one you hate the most.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 20:04 GMT
#932
On December 19 2012 05:02 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 04:59 Crossfire99 wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:52 Foolishness wrote:
Until I see a case made against me longer than 3 lines I'm ignoring anything anyone says about me

So if you're not scum, who is the scum from our world (Chaos of Grey)? I've only colored the confirmed people green.

Clarity_nl
Crossfire99 (Confirmed not anti-town. Masoned with Risen)
Dienosore (dead)
Foolishness
Keirathi
Kenpachi (dead)
Marvellosity
Palmar (dead)
randombum
SlOosh (confirmed not anti-town)

Unless they're dead they are not confirmed. If we're believing marvellosity's claim that he's 3rd party I honestly don't know who the last one out of the bunch is. I don't think it's you, I don't think it's syllogism because he exists in both worlds (which would mean there's only 3 mafia, and that's not likely), so sloosh or keirathi; pick the one you hate the most.

Why don't you believe Austin's check? He died and is confirmed town?
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 18 2012 20:05 GMT
#933
And the reason I don't think it's you is because your posting behavior is too similar to Whose Line mafia
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 18 2012 20:07 GMT
#934
On December 19 2012 05:04 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 05:02 Foolishness wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:59 Crossfire99 wrote:
On December 19 2012 04:52 Foolishness wrote:
Until I see a case made against me longer than 3 lines I'm ignoring anything anyone says about me

So if you're not scum, who is the scum from our world (Chaos of Grey)? I've only colored the confirmed people green.

Clarity_nl
Crossfire99 (Confirmed not anti-town. Masoned with Risen)
Dienosore (dead)
Foolishness
Keirathi
Kenpachi (dead)
Marvellosity
Palmar (dead)
randombum
SlOosh (confirmed not anti-town)

Unless they're dead they are not confirmed. If we're believing marvellosity's claim that he's 3rd party I honestly don't know who the last one out of the bunch is. I don't think it's you, I don't think it's syllogism because he exists in both worlds (which would mean there's only 3 mafia, and that's not likely), so sloosh or keirathi; pick the one you hate the most.

Why don't you believe Austin's check? He died and is confirmed town?

It's not that I think he is lying about what happened, I just don't believe that the results indicate that you and Sloosh (and palmar before he died) are in the clear. That ability he has is too good to be true. I can think of ways to get more than 3 people confirmed if used properly, pending on the wording you could probably win the game just with that ability. It's too broken. Too good to be true kinda thing.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 18 2012 20:09 GMT
#935
Taking the results at face value is too ambitious. Not that I think you or sloosh are mafia (and I haven't from the beginning, that should be obvious) but I don't know who that last mafia is.

Honestly I'm more inclined to just say marvellosity is bullshitting and he's the last mafia just causing chaos. My first instinct in games almost always turns out to be right (Liar Game Mafia for example)
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 18 2012 20:20 GMT
#936
@Foolishness
Short cases are often best. I know a lot of players love to write stories describing how everything about someone's play is indicative of the person being mafia or town, but in reality a lot of it is just fluff. You have been useless and wrong about everything so far. Town foolishness it not useless and rarely this wrong.

You made a completely nonsensical attack on Marvel early on and your explanation for it is not satisfactory. You have ignored role based reasons for believing someone is town; it doesn't matter if the evidence isn't conclusive, it's still evidence. In addition you have mostly ignored players who you should have been suspicious, BH/Mementoss in particular. Overall your interest in the game can be, at best, characterized as superficial.

You left your vote on Yamato despite being asked to move it by confirmed town Sandroba and it made no sense at all to leave it there based on your explanation of your role. You didn't have a read on Yamato and you claimed your role could potentially kill him. There is no way a town aligned person with your role would use it on a person they've no read on, and if you were town aligned you certainly would have a mafia read on someone. Finally you keep getting lynched to no-lynch world and there is basically no good explanation for this other than mafia not wanting you to get lynched.

The only reason I'm bothering to type even this up is because I know you've previously been, as mafia, annoyed due to being lynched/suspected when there is "no case" against you (ptp3?). Just because no one bothers to articulate a case "comprehensive" case against you doesn't mean there are no good reasons for lynching you. The main purpose when making a case is to convince everyone else, not the subject of the case.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 18 2012 20:35 GMT
#937
I should proof read my posts more, "lynched to" = "switched to"
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 18 2012 21:50 GMT
#938
I claimed BH is town cause he is, just as I claimed dienosore was town and he was.

I explained what my role did and why I put it on Yamato, there was plenty good reason for me to do so.

I was right to think that there was something up with marvellosity, he pretty much claimed 3rd party. Assuming that he is 3rd party, he is still anti-town. You want to let him run around then you have only yourself to blame.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 18 2012 21:52 GMT
#939
And rofl at you for thinking I get annoyed when I get lynched. We made 2 lynches this game without making a full case, how did that work out?
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2012 22:15 GMT
#940
On December 19 2012 06:50 Foolishness wrote:
I claimed BH is town cause he is, just as I claimed dienosore was town and he was.

I explained what my role did and why I put it on Yamato, there was plenty good reason for me to do so.

I was right to think that there was something up with marvellosity, he pretty much claimed 3rd party. Assuming that he is 3rd party, he is still anti-town. You want to let him run around then you have only yourself to blame.


That's like saying "I thought he was scum because he was wearing a hat. Turns out he was 3rd party so my hat theory was kinda right guys!"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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