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Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 18 2012 22:18 GMT
#941
On December 19 2012 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2012 06:50 Foolishness wrote:
I claimed BH is town cause he is, just as I claimed dienosore was town and he was.

I explained what my role did and why I put it on Yamato, there was plenty good reason for me to do so.

I was right to think that there was something up with marvellosity, he pretty much claimed 3rd party. Assuming that he is 3rd party, he is still anti-town. You want to let him run around then you have only yourself to blame.


That's like saying "I thought he was scum because he was wearing a hat. Turns out he was 3rd party so my hat theory was kinda right guys!"

That's like saying, classic confirmation bias
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 18 2012 22:21 GMT
#942
Sloosh you should probably full claim tonight. Even if your role is awesome, which I doubt, you dying makes the game easier. I don't entirely trust austin's check and I need to narrow down possible candidates for the second mafia in Grey.

Marvel you also need to full claim your abilities. I'm not quite willing to believe that you don't know what your abilities do. How does it make sense for you to even use your abilities if you don't know what they do? It only draws attention to you if you are a survivor.
On December 18 2012 12:17 marvellosity wrote:
For what it's worth, I have a vested interest in killing scum right now, if town loses the game too quickly then I lose too.

Also this doesn't make sense if you are a survivor with a standard survivor win con. The easiest way for you to win is by having either side win quickly.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 18 2012 22:22 GMT
#943
##Active: Inter-Dimensional Sacrifice
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 18 2012 22:22 GMT
#944
Let's try that again

##Activate: Inter-Dimensional Sacrifice
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2012 22:26 GMT
#945
On December 19 2012 07:21 syllogism wrote:
Sloosh you should probably full claim tonight. Even if your role is awesome, which I doubt, you dying makes the game easier. I don't entirely trust austin's check and I need to narrow down possible candidates for the second mafia in Grey.

Marvel you also need to full claim your abilities. I'm not quite willing to believe that you don't know what your abilities do. How does it make sense for you to even use your abilities if you don't know what they do? It only draws attention to you if you are a survivor.
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On December 18 2012 12:17 marvellosity wrote:
For what it's worth, I have a vested interest in killing scum right now, if town loses the game too quickly then I lose too.

Also this doesn't make sense if you are a survivor with a standard survivor win con. The easiest way for you to win is by having either side win quickly.


I think that's the point, sweetie.

My wincon isn't standard as I think I've mentioned before. I have 10 abilities, one to use each day and night which is compulsory, and I win when I have used all of my abilities and survive to the next day post (start of day 6 then).

Basically means a romp either way is a bad thing for me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 18 2012 22:30 GMT
#946
That's a pretty solid claim, I believe you for now.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2012 22:32 GMT
#947
I'll warn/tell you now, I have an ability or two I'm not confident won't mess with something at some stage.

In particular I have a mass teleportation command (that's it's name) which I presume will do some interesting world shuffling.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 18 2012 22:39 GMT
#948
I hope there's 24 hours left in the day otherwise I'm going to be the laughing stock of this forum forever
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 23:23 GMT
#949
On December 19 2012 07:39 Foolishness wrote:
I hope there's 24 hours left in the day otherwise I'm going to be the laughing stock of this forum forever

What is going to happen now?

@BH: I think you should swap risen, so I come over to iGrok's Strange Land.

@Yamato: Risen is 100% confirmed town. He may have lied, but he is 100% confirmed town. I already explained this earlier in the below post.
On December 19 2012 03:36 Crossfire99 wrote:
First, Risen and I are confirmed town masons. I specifically asked about this and it is true. My breadcrumb is spoilered below.
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.

On December 13 2012 01:14 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On December 13 2012 01:06 marvellosity wrote:
On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.


who'd you rather kill right now?

No one at the moment.

On December 13 2012 01:22 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 01:08 Dienosore wrote:
On December 13 2012 01:04 Crossfire99 wrote:
Marv and Palmar, do you really think Foolish is scum because of his vote on marv? Idk anything about foolish except that he is on the balance team, which I assume means he must be pretty good. Even if he did this bad vote as scum previously, do you think he would do it again? Personally, I don't feel comfortable voting for him just based on that.


How do you feel about my evidence which shows him speculating about swaps, then minutes later telling everyone not to do exactly that?

Also, why would he cast the first stone at marv for absolutely no reason?

All I can see his first vote doing is creating discussion, which it obviously did. I don't really think he would be that dumb as scum, but I don't know him, hence why i asked marv and palmar my question.

As for his flip flopping. I actually don't see it as flip flopping. I think he misunderstood the way swapping works with his first quote, and then just didn't want people to derp around talking about swapping, so he voted marv for the sake of discussion.

On December 13 2012 01:56 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 01:30 Dienosore wrote:
So you're saying he isn't scum, then?

Just trying to clarify so I know what sort of squiggle to use for you two on my map.

Eh, I don't know if he is scum or isn't scum yet. I agree that his vote on marv was unwarranted, but I've seen a lot of people vote a random person day 1 just to get discussion going. And I've seen that from both town and scum players, so right now I don't have a read on him.

On December 13 2012 11:12 Crossfire99 wrote:
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On December 13 2012 08:20 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe Crossfire's scum. He seems awful careful. Randomarseface is probably too derpy to be scum

So just because I'm careful I might be scum. The reason I'm careful is because I'm really racking my brain right now trying to understand what is going on between you, foolish, and palmar. I've only played with you marv once, but I know you are all vets and are pretty good from what I hear. This is why I don't understand what is going on. It seems too bad to come from players of your caliber.

On December 13 2012 11:18 Crossfire99 wrote:
So riddle me this marv. You call foolish's play bad in this quote + Show Spoiler +
On December 13 2012 07:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 07:36 Foolishness wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:40 Palmar wrote:
I'm all for this discussion thing Foolishness. Let's start with you explaining in detail why you think marv is scum.

He hasn't made a post longer than 30 words (most of them are just one liners full of nothing). He's not contributed anything of substance, all he has done is start a silly counter vote on me, backed by horrible reasoning. He says my vote is exactly the same as bureaucratic mafia, but it's not anywhere close. In bureaucracy, I just said he should die, I didn't give reasoning, and I don't even think I ever voted for him, I just made the comments in passing and never really elaborated on them. Poor comparison to try to get something going (though the amount of people jumping on it is great for the town).

What's most sketchy about his accusations against me is that they seem so out of the blue. He was really quick to jump up and point the finger back, so quick that it was made out of panic (oh shit he's onto me...quick! accuse him back to divert the attention!).


Hi there. I'd made 2 small posts at the beginning of the thread when you called me scum

Now you're a pretty clever boy and you know that's not alignment indicative. I start every game ever in the universe like this.

And no, you're stupid accusation didn't panic me. You lost your aura back in Bureaucracy when you were so trivial to catch as scum.

How could I divert the attention when there was nothing to divert it from? Oh look, marv asked why Clarity was in both worlds and said hi, he must be scum! Give me a break.

My accusation of you (shallow as it may seem) had more depth and interest than your accusation of me.

If you're genuinely town then you should know the posts I made at the beginning of the game are in no way alignment indicative, so I can only presume what you were doing was some sort of play to get people talking? Whatever it was, it was bad.
. You also say it is most likely just a ploy to get people talking. If you really are thinking that it could be just a bad ploy to get people talking, why are you voting for him? It makes no sense.

On December 13 2012 11:28 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 11:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
Judging by Mario, crossfire is not scum, or at least not showing it thus far.

Oh, how nice of you. Thank you for the vote of confidence. To be completely honest though, most of what happened in Mario was due to two things. 1) That thread was way way way too active for my taste. I absolutely hated it, and would have hated it even if I was town. 2) Real life screwed me over hard during that game. I was away for the first half of day 1 and didn't think it was going to be an issue at all, but was an issue because of the activity level. Additionally, my internet really did crap out on me and make me unable to use the 3 hours I had to planned to devote to that game. I had no idea what to do after that, so i did my random stuff with 1 hr to go before the most hilarious, crazy, and random lynch I have ever been a part of.

Anyway that turned out to be way longer than I thought it would be. Whatever. lol

On December 13 2012 12:23 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 11:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
Ehhh, okay. In that case could you link us to some of the games you've played other than Mario?

If you want an easy way to get to my games, just click the profile button on the top right of any of my posts. Then click the number of posts it lists in my profile. Then select the forum to be the TL mafia forum. Then you can see all the games I have played in.

On December 14 2012 06:20 Crossfire99 wrote:
Now, I just caught up. I will have to reread the thread to determine who I want to lynch, but I definitely want to thank austin for using that objection.

Do i really have 2 votes even though sloosh is just voting for me?

On December 14 2012 06:37 Crossfire99 wrote:
Right now I agree with starting from austin's list here.
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 05:12 austinmcc wrote:
That leaves me looking at a lynch among:

randombum
marvellosity
kenpachi
clarity_nl
dienosore

At least for D1, I'm happy to throw clarity off the list. Scum starting with 2 in each world means only 3 scum total if he's scum, and if anything I would think he'd be 3P or some kind of half-one alignment, half-the other. We should not absolutely count him town, but for purposes of the D1 lynch I don't think he's a good option.

I agree with his assessment of clarity and don't want to lynch him today.

I read through dienosore's filter and don't think he's scum atm. I don't have as strong as a read on marv, but I know he plays like this and am fine with not lynching him now.

This leaves kenpachi and randombum. Kenpachi is Kenpachi from what I gather. I can't really read him right now, but I don't want to lynch him because he reminds me of chezinu. Chezinu was difficult to read but was a townie.

This leaves randombum. Give me some time and I'll see what I can put together.


If you take the first letters of my 2nd-11th posts. It will give you this:

M N A E S S O I N R

If you take every other letter starting from the left you get MASON and if you take every other letter starting from the right you get RISEN.

Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 23:25 GMT
#950
Randombum, what's with the ninja vote on foolish?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 18 2012 23:27 GMT
#951
Foolishness isn't going to tell us what it does and, if it's real, I'm worried that the ability will cause us to kill instead of swap the person we vote for in iGrok's world. Perhaps we should consider swapping darkfire or BH. The problem with that is that if Mementoss is mafia, they are going to switch him to Grey tonight and then we might not have a good lynch available tomorrow.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2012 23:28 GMT
#952
can you not do your switchy switchy thing tomorrow syllo?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 23:29 GMT
#953
What if everyone voted to swap you syllogism? You don't get swapped. It would move to the 2nd highest vote count, but if that was no one, then no one would get swapped.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 18 2012 23:30 GMT
#954
If I'm around tomorrow, perhaps
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 18 2012 23:31 GMT
#955
That could still kill me if the speculation about the ability is correct
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2012 23:31 GMT
#956
oh yes. forgot the whole dying thing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 18 2012 23:32 GMT
#957
Hmm. We could just do darkfire since he's claimed 3rd party. Also, his crazy ability is hitting tonight.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 19 2012 00:00 GMT
#958
On December 19 2012 08:25 Crossfire99 wrote:
Randombum, what's with the ninja vote on foolish?


Didn't have anything to add to discussion other than I think foolishness should get lynched so I voted for him.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
December 19 2012 02:52 GMT
#959
Sorry, I had to run and had to make sure it got posted on time.

My ability kills everyone who has been swapped between worlds in the past cycle (it also kills myself whether or not I have or not). It's only usable during the day and activates at lynch time. So Risen and Crossfire will die at the lynch with me. After I flip town reread everything I've said this game.

And I have no idea why syllogism is agreeing to work with a 3rd party we know nothing about. He's clearly playing anti-town (and has been from day 1). What reason is there to trust him with no other proof then what he claims?
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
December 19 2012 03:43 GMT
#960
On December 19 2012 11:52 Foolishness wrote:
Sorry, I had to run and had to make sure it got posted on time.

My ability kills everyone who has been swapped between worlds in the past cycle (it also kills myself whether or not I have or not). It's only usable during the day and activates at lynch time. So Risen and Crossfire will die at the lynch with me. After I flip town reread everything I've said this game.

And I have no idea why syllogism is agreeing to work with a 3rd party we know nothing about. He's clearly playing anti-town (and has been from day 1). What reason is there to trust him with no other proof then what he claims?

Yeah, I don't know how else you could scream scum more loudly than you just did. Activating a supposed ability that kills people who were swapped during the day is interesting if it really exists, but activating it to use on confirmed town masons that were swapped is over 9000 scummy.

Don't believe the B.S. Lynch Foolishness no matter what.
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