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On December 03 2012 07:34 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 07:26 MrZentor wrote:
Okay Keirathi, riddle me this.
IF BH is scum, why would he make that giant case against me and retract it immediately? Odd behavior like that is bound to be noticed, and BH could have easily made himself look productive while throwing dirt on me by not retracting that case. Because if you are town, you would have immediately come into the thread and said "Hey wait, I was scum that game not town!", making him look bad. Retracting the case was his only option from either alignment, so it's a null tell.
And somehow this argument applies, but your case on me largely rests on me NOT paying attention to holes in the D case?
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OK, here are my reads at the moment, though it's not perfect.
MrZ is town. I trust him and on top of that he's the only guy making real sense about me.
ShiapPi is town. I base this on the fact that he's been reading the thread
Zealos is Tenatively town. explained here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17087816
VE for all his faults is appearing town to me, but the VE I know is usually a bit more invested. He hasn't been great but he's been willing to call out WBG (link). I don't like his attack on Xala but he explains it well enough (link)
Austinmcc - town. as town talks a lot about player's motivations and thinks his reads through. talks openly in long-ish posts quoting plenty of people. no scum meta available.
I don't like Marv as much as I'd like. Marv always looks reasonably town to me, but some of his attacks, such as that on DP here (link) and his interactions with ace this game have seem forced and his mentionings of ace seem artificial (link)
I don't like Keirathi either (oh yes I'm attacking the two guys attacking me) because of his attack on me. Keirathi should know me, and should know better. Not logically consistent.
DYH needs to be examined after night actions, but I suspect town based on claim timing. bad town, but town.
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well, that went better than expected. good work DYH
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On December 03 2012 08:24 Keirathi wrote:
EBWOP: Me holding RB on n1 to claim it myself in GSL Mini 1.
scum does that all the time
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Keirathi should be smarter than this.
##vote Keirathi
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On December 03 2012 15:50 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 15:46 Blazinghand wrote:
Keirathi should be smarter than this.
##vote Keirathi You still haven't made an actual argument against my case, or the no-roleblocker assumption. You just keep calling me bad/stupid.
I made an argument against your case, which is that earlier in the night I assume, and state clearly, that I expect one of the two of them to be blocked. The fact that you continue to opt out of the discussion means you're intentionally avoiding being helpful. You're a smart guy, and you're not playing like you do as town. Your blood shall run red.
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Also the fact that your case is a long-winded bad conspiracy theory that is utterly out of touch with reality and the simple explanation which is that I'm town and all the pro-town stuff I did right at deadline was done because I am town.
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Also: scumslips don't exist.
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In any case, you had your chance to repent and hunt scum like a town Keirathi would. Now you die.
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That's funny, I was gonna ask you the same thing.
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And here's what's really bugging me, Keirathi. You're not playing for the town here, you're not trying to reason out reads or interact with people, all you're doing is tunnelling me. Besides a very very brief response to DYH talking about ace, and calling Sandro town, you have refused to participate in the thread. Now, granted, I'm not captain mchelpful always but I share my thoughts because I want people to analyze, think, and develop.
You have refused to share your thoughts, develop scumreads, talk about flips, or do ANYTHING but tunnel me and respond to the numerous people who have defended me in thread. This "looks" like aggressive town but it's not. What this is is scum OPTING OUT of the discourse. Just like Djoref did in Mario, because it's an easy way to look town as scum.
A town player has lots of things to share, but you have NOTHING. All you have is tunnelling me. That's a great way to avoid giving reads and revealing your scum motive, and you're better than that. Most townies are better than that. This is scum play, it's play against the town, and I won't stand for it. Your blood shall flow a beautiful crimson.
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Blazinghand
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I gave you some time after I refuted your terrible case extensively and demonstrated my innocence to come back and talk to the thread and reason out this game, and hell, even to scumhunt. But put simply: you're not scumhunting. You're not talking. You're not contributing. You're not town.
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I typically have a policy of not lynching people the day they replaced in, but I didn't like Ace either (though I typically find him illegible anyways). For you, my friend: an exception.
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"omg bh that was djoref and not me" the point isn't meta here. The point is behavioral analysis and how scum play, and the motives behind a tunnel like this. It is clear to me, and it should be clear by now to the people who have seen you refuse to listen to reason or even weigh in on ANYTHING else in the plenty of time you've been in the thread.
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The fact of the matter is Keirathi, I thought about that policy, and sometimes policies need to be bent. It blinded me to the true nature of Djoref being scum last game, and I have learned from that mistake. So much has happened, with flips, shots, VE being red, etc, but you would rather avoid all that discussion. It's so easy to let your scum motives slip when you actually talk to the town! No, much easier to just tunnel BH.
I've seen this before, and the only motivation is that you're scum. ez.
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On December 03 2012 16:16 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 16:15 Blazinghand wrote:
The fact of the matter is Keirathi, I thought about that policy, and sometimes policies need to be bent. It blinded me to the true nature of Djoref being scum last game, and I have learned from that mistake. So much has happened, with flips, shots, VE being red, etc, but you would rather avoid all that discussion. It's so easy to let your scum motives slip when you actually talk to the town! No, much easier to just tunnel BH.
I've seen this before, and the only motivation is that you're scum. ez. What the hell is there to say about the flips/shots/VE being scum? They are facts that everyone can see. What have you said about them, btw?
I haven't weighed in on them yet, and I haven't done any associative tell analysis either. But there's a lot to say (besides of course that DYH is the vigi), especially given that VE, and people's interactions with VE, left behind what I'm sure is plenty of stuff to look at from D1. You can turn the question around on me if you like-- yes, I haven't weighed in on that yet, but you know what I have done? Shared reads on tons of people since the start of D1, since the start of N1 even. I'm an open book, Keirathi.
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In any case I'm still enormous unimpressed with your reactions and play in general this game. There's no way any of this is town motivated, not when there's so much engagement to be had. See you on the "flip side" heheh
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It doesn't matter if you personally find my arguments unconvincing. Everyone else will now know it plain as day: you are scum.
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