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On November 25 2012 11:19 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 10:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would take
Acro,
Marv,
Clarity.
I dont think that scum Acro would soft defend Sandro because there is no upside for scum
Marv is looking more and more townie at the moment.
Clarity also started actually doing 'work' after I made my 'case' on him. I don't want to come. Swap me out for Dieno or Syllo... given the new information, I also prefer Chronicler over Clarity. I can see no reason for scum to bus Toad right now.
and you really didn't want to be party leader d1. Explain.
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On November 25 2012 11:20 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Do you(everybody) agree with my proposed party? Why would you not take Dieno?
This.
Dieno, however bad he is at playing this game, is all but confirmed town. He should be in the party.
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On November 25 2012 11:23 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:19 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 10:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would take
Acro,
Marv,
Clarity.
I dont think that scum Acro would soft defend Sandro because there is no upside for scum
Marv is looking more and more townie at the moment.
Clarity also started actually doing 'work' after I made my 'case' on him. I don't want to come. Swap me out for Dieno or Syllo... given the new information, I also prefer Chronicler over Clarity. I can see no reason for scum to bus Toad right now. and you really didn't want to be party leader d1. Explain.
No.
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To be fair, I don't know that I will screw up our chances of winning the event, but I'd rather not risk it.
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On November 25 2012 11:24 Acrofales wrote:
To be fair, I don't know that I will screw up our chances of winning the event, but I'd rather not risk it.
Are you saying you know that you have a low success modifier as well?
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I dont want to take Dieno because there is a high chance that he dies the next cycle so I want to make sure all my party members are ALIVE and kicking at the end.
About marv, yeah his day 1 play worried me too but his 'excuse' was that he was not the most vet and that he wasnt comfortable in themed games, which is totally understandable.
I am reading him mostly based on his day 2 play because I had a null read on day 1.
Acro, you are being awfully opaque about why you do not want to be in the party, mind explaining?
Also I think that I might want to take Syllo as that only leaves 2 contentious decisions.
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On November 25 2012 11:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont want to take Dieno because there is a high chance that he dies the next cycle so I want to make sure all my party members are ALIVE and kicking at the end.
About marv, yeah his day 1 play worried me too but his 'excuse' was that he was not the most vet and that he wasnt comfortable in themed games, which is totally understandable.
I am reading him mostly based on his day 2 play because I had a null read on day 1.
Acro, you are being awfully opaque about why you do not want to be in the party, mind explaining?
Also I think that I might want to take Syllo as that only leaves 2 contentious decisions.
The host already confirmed that the event happens BEFORE night actions resolve, so even if ap arty member dies, it doesn't effect the outcome of the event.
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Lets just leave it at what I've said. I don't think there's any reason other that curiosity why anybody needs more information than I have given.
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On November 25 2012 11:27 Acrofales wrote:
Lets just leave it at what I've said. I don't think there's any reason other that curiosity why anybody needs more information than I have given.
Because your claim doesn't make sense.
Remember this?
On November 22 2012 05:42 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 05:38 Keirathi wrote:On November 22 2012 05:36 phagga wrote:On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal. why is that townie? I would expect a townie to want to be part of every mission if possible, as it will make sure that at least that spot is not occupied by scum (from that specific townies point of view). If a townie has a low "success modifier". I could see him not wanting to be picked especially in the early game where its much more likely that a scum (or two) are picked for the team inadvertently and it could cause mission loss. How the hell do you have any idea what your HIDDEN success modifier is? What CaveJohnson's post made me think of was 3rd party. I thought syllo was referring to the fact that a 3rd party didn't want to come along on the mission was "townie", because he at least cares enough about the town to warn them off.
Now you're trying to portray that you being in a party could cause us to lose the event somehow.
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Ok right, in that case,
I will take Dieno (Froggy :D)
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On November 25 2012 11:29 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:27 Acrofales wrote:
Lets just leave it at what I've said. I don't think there's any reason other that curiosity why anybody needs more information than I have given. Because your claim doesn't make sense. Remember this? Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 05:42 Acrofales wrote:On November 22 2012 05:38 Keirathi wrote:On November 22 2012 05:36 phagga wrote:On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal. why is that townie? I would expect a townie to want to be part of every mission if possible, as it will make sure that at least that spot is not occupied by scum (from that specific townies point of view). If a townie has a low "success modifier". I could see him not wanting to be picked especially in the early game where its much more likely that a scum (or two) are picked for the team inadvertently and it could cause mission loss. How the hell do you have any idea what your HIDDEN success modifier is? What CaveJohnson's post made me think of was 3rd party. I thought syllo was referring to the fact that a 3rd party didn't want to come along on the mission was "townie", because he at least cares enough about the town to warn them off. Now you're trying to portray that you being in a party could cause us to lose the event somehow.
I didn't say you didn't WANT any more information, just that you don't NEED any more information. My goal right now is to get this mission over successfully. It is safer if you don't take me.
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On November 25 2012 11:35 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:29 Keirathi wrote:On November 25 2012 11:27 Acrofales wrote:
Lets just leave it at what I've said. I don't think there's any reason other that curiosity why anybody needs more information than I have given. Because your claim doesn't make sense. Remember this? On November 22 2012 05:42 Acrofales wrote:On November 22 2012 05:38 Keirathi wrote:On November 22 2012 05:36 phagga wrote:On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal. why is that townie? I would expect a townie to want to be part of every mission if possible, as it will make sure that at least that spot is not occupied by scum (from that specific townies point of view). If a townie has a low "success modifier". I could see him not wanting to be picked especially in the early game where its much more likely that a scum (or two) are picked for the team inadvertently and it could cause mission loss. How the hell do you have any idea what your HIDDEN success modifier is? What CaveJohnson's post made me think of was 3rd party. I thought syllo was referring to the fact that a 3rd party didn't want to come along on the mission was "townie", because he at least cares enough about the town to warn them off. Now you're trying to portray that you being in a party could cause us to lose the event somehow. I didn't say you didn't WANT any more information, just that you don't NEED any more information. My goal right now is to get this mission over successfully. It is safer if you don't take me.
Funny how people jumped down my throat for that line of thinking as well 
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On November 25 2012 11:35 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:29 Keirathi wrote:On November 25 2012 11:27 Acrofales wrote:
Lets just leave it at what I've said. I don't think there's any reason other that curiosity why anybody needs more information than I have given. Because your claim doesn't make sense. Remember this? On November 22 2012 05:42 Acrofales wrote:On November 22 2012 05:38 Keirathi wrote:On November 22 2012 05:36 phagga wrote:On November 22 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
CaveJohnson who are you? It would be helpful to know in order to determine whether you should "know better" than to say some of the things you have said. Obviously the fact that you chose to use that account suggests that you don't want us to know, but if you are town it would be in your best interest to reconsider. I don't like your posts either, although the fact you said you don't want to be picked for the mission is slightly towny, depending on your reasoning, which I expect you to later reveal. why is that townie? I would expect a townie to want to be part of every mission if possible, as it will make sure that at least that spot is not occupied by scum (from that specific townies point of view). If a townie has a low "success modifier". I could see him not wanting to be picked especially in the early game where its much more likely that a scum (or two) are picked for the team inadvertently and it could cause mission loss. How the hell do you have any idea what your HIDDEN success modifier is? What CaveJohnson's post made me think of was 3rd party. I thought syllo was referring to the fact that a 3rd party didn't want to come along on the mission was "townie", because he at least cares enough about the town to warn them off. Now you're trying to portray that you being in a party could cause us to lose the event somehow. I didn't say you didn't WANT any more information, just that you don't NEED any more information. My goal right now is to get this mission over successfully. It is safer if you don't take me.
I don't really WANT the information, nor do I NEED it. I don't really care one way or the other if you have a low success modifier or not.
The way I look at it, though, you're insinuating that you have a low success modifier. Which doesn't make any fucking sense because of what I quoted you as saying earlier. That wouldn't have been your reaction had you known that you had a low modifier yourself. So, what's the deal?
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On November 25 2012 11:17 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:14 Hapahauli wrote:@ GKOn November 25 2012 10:52 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 10:46 goodkarma wrote:On November 25 2012 10:39 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 10:37 goodkarma wrote:On November 25 2012 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 10:30 goodkarma wrote:On November 25 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Marvellosity
I think he's town, and I trust his town-reading ability more than any possible alternatives at this point. Keep in mind there are other ways of going about this. Working under the premise that the successful team day one is all but confirmed town, we can cherry pick from that to form a team as quickly as possible. Pick a decent townie (like Keir), and then use the member whose judgement is arguably strongest (syllo) to determine the remainder of the party to be selected. Sure, it involves lots of sheeping, but it is a very sound way of removing any potential for mafia manipulation in the selection process. Well I think there's more consideration than just to create a team that's as "safe" as possible. One of the functions of running these missions is to confirm people as town. In that regard, I don't mind electing players that I'm strongly reading as town, as opposed to "confirmed" townies (via previous mission). We can confirm strong town reads if success, or a possible failure could alert us to a dangerous scumplayer. Really? I thought the function of these missions was winning... We can only have half the party from last time anyway, so some confirming will be involved. But why not leave the reigns in the hands of people we (pretty much with absolute certainty) know to be town? I see no down-side. Well I honestly don't know what the success/failure of a mission determines behind the scenes. However, missions can confirm people as town, and we also need to consider that aspect of it when making a decision. All that winning gave us last time was the chance to lynch. If that's all that happens when things go well, then, yeah, I'd rather not learn what happens when we fail... Hint: I doubt we'll be able to lynch. Wait what? How do you know what success/failure of a mission does? Mission success wasn't explicitly linked to a lynch day in any host-post I saw. I don't understand what you want to know from this question... I have no psychic abilities that forsee what Greymist might do to us if we fail, if that's what you're getting at. And if you were to look at my comments, I believe I have clearly conveyed that.
Well you seemed to come up with this idea out of thin air, so either I missed something in Greymists filter or you made that comment having either a) extra knowledge that town wouldn't know or b) a bad assumption. Either way, I want to know.
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On November 25 2012 11:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok right, in that case,
I will take Dieno (Froggy :D)
Ribbit!
I intend to run against you for leader, but it will be a friendly race. I can promise you'll have a spot with me too, so no fear my friend.
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On November 25 2012 11:41 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:17 goodkarma wrote:On November 25 2012 11:14 Hapahauli wrote:@ GKOn November 25 2012 10:52 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 10:46 goodkarma wrote:On November 25 2012 10:39 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 10:37 goodkarma wrote:On November 25 2012 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 10:30 goodkarma wrote:On November 25 2012 10:25 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Marvellosity
I think he's town, and I trust his town-reading ability more than any possible alternatives at this point. Keep in mind there are other ways of going about this. Working under the premise that the successful team day one is all but confirmed town, we can cherry pick from that to form a team as quickly as possible. Pick a decent townie (like Keir), and then use the member whose judgement is arguably strongest (syllo) to determine the remainder of the party to be selected. Sure, it involves lots of sheeping, but it is a very sound way of removing any potential for mafia manipulation in the selection process. Well I think there's more consideration than just to create a team that's as "safe" as possible. One of the functions of running these missions is to confirm people as town. In that regard, I don't mind electing players that I'm strongly reading as town, as opposed to "confirmed" townies (via previous mission). We can confirm strong town reads if success, or a possible failure could alert us to a dangerous scumplayer. Really? I thought the function of these missions was winning... We can only have half the party from last time anyway, so some confirming will be involved. But why not leave the reigns in the hands of people we (pretty much with absolute certainty) know to be town? I see no down-side. Well I honestly don't know what the success/failure of a mission determines behind the scenes. However, missions can confirm people as town, and we also need to consider that aspect of it when making a decision. All that winning gave us last time was the chance to lynch. If that's all that happens when things go well, then, yeah, I'd rather not learn what happens when we fail... Hint: I doubt we'll be able to lynch. Wait what? How do you know what success/failure of a mission does? Mission success wasn't explicitly linked to a lynch day in any host-post I saw. I don't understand what you want to know from this question... I have no psychic abilities that forsee what Greymist might do to us if we fail, if that's what you're getting at. And if you were to look at my comments, I believe I have clearly conveyed that. Well you seemed to come up with this idea out of thin air, so either I missed something in Greymists filter or you made that comment having either a) extra knowledge that town wouldn't know or b) a bad assumption. Either way, I want to know.
Eh, that idea was bouncing around all day. Not sure who mentioned it first. GK states it with a weird amount of certainty, but the idea wasn't new.
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On November 25 2012 11:42 Dienosore wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok right, in that case,
I will take Dieno (Froggy :D)
Ribbit! I intend to run against you for leader, but it will be a friendly race. I can promise you'll have a spot with me too, so no fear my friend.
Why do you feel more confident in taking Oats than in Syllo?
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On November 25 2012 11:44 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:41 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 11:17 goodkarma wrote:On November 25 2012 11:14 Hapahauli wrote:@ GKOn November 25 2012 10:52 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 10:46 goodkarma wrote:On November 25 2012 10:39 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 10:37 goodkarma wrote:On November 25 2012 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 10:30 goodkarma wrote:
[quote]
Keep in mind there are other ways of going about this.
Working under the premise that the successful team day one is all but confirmed town, we can cherry pick from that to form a team as quickly as possible.
Pick a decent townie (like Keir), and then use the member whose judgement is arguably strongest (syllo) to determine the remainder of the party to be selected.
Sure, it involves lots of sheeping, but it is a very sound way of removing any potential for mafia manipulation in the selection process. Well I think there's more consideration than just to create a team that's as "safe" as possible. One of the functions of running these missions is to confirm people as town. In that regard, I don't mind electing players that I'm strongly reading as town, as opposed to "confirmed" townies (via previous mission). We can confirm strong town reads if success, or a possible failure could alert us to a dangerous scumplayer. Really? I thought the function of these missions was winning... We can only have half the party from last time anyway, so some confirming will be involved. But why not leave the reigns in the hands of people we (pretty much with absolute certainty) know to be town? I see no down-side. Well I honestly don't know what the success/failure of a mission determines behind the scenes. However, missions can confirm people as town, and we also need to consider that aspect of it when making a decision. All that winning gave us last time was the chance to lynch. If that's all that happens when things go well, then, yeah, I'd rather not learn what happens when we fail... Hint: I doubt we'll be able to lynch. Wait what? How do you know what success/failure of a mission does? Mission success wasn't explicitly linked to a lynch day in any host-post I saw. I don't understand what you want to know from this question... I have no psychic abilities that forsee what Greymist might do to us if we fail, if that's what you're getting at. And if you were to look at my comments, I believe I have clearly conveyed that. Well you seemed to come up with this idea out of thin air, so either I missed something in Greymists filter or you made that comment having either a) extra knowledge that town wouldn't know or b) a bad assumption. Either way, I want to know. Eh, that idea was bouncing around all day. Not sure who mentioned it first. GK states it with a weird amount of certainty, but the idea wasn't new.
Oh hm I phrased that a lot more accusatory than I intended. Well the point is that it's a bad assumption and it plays into our conversation from a few pages back. It looks to me like the cycles are pre-determined and just follow the story. In this case, we don't have to "sell out" for succeeding the mission by including as many confirmed townies as possible. I'd rather include some strong town reads (such as marv) to confirm them. In the event that the mission fails, it doesn't look like we lose anything (on the surface), and in addition, we can be alerted to a potential threat (i.e. marv playing a really good scumgame).
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When did you check Sandroba and when did you check me? Sandroba just flipped frame busdriver, just asking because I'm not mafia.
I'm Johnny the attention-whore robot.
I'm leader of a gang and therefore got the biggest ego in town. If I don't get 1 vote per day I take lots and lots of dmg.
I don't want to get too much into detail there but I would have taken 500 damage yesterday had noone voted for me. Not entirely sure because of my internet going out but I wasn't able to ask Greymist because of that so I just wanted to be safe because my role already got changed once...
Besides being able to literally kill myself I can use one of my machines and charge them for healing powers. I can only charge or heal, not both per night. I hit myself n1 for 100dmg and I should have targeted Hapa this cycle for 100 dmg getting a 2nd charge.
Not sure if I can actually copy & paste my role, so I just described it and the best way to play it probably would have been to outright claim it d1 but I wanted to play it out, therefore I tried to be somewhat okayish d1, getting at least 1 vote (thx oats :3 ) and lurked d2, hoping that would do the trick to get a vote on me. It didn't so I started to behave more and more retarded by the minute until I had people voting for me :p
Things that I have posted before:
On November 22 2012 06:24 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 06:15 GreYMisT wrote:
Vote Count
Kitaman27 (1): Kitaman27
Djodref (1): djodref
Sandroba (4): risk.nuke, Hopeless1der, Acrofales, kushm4sta
Dienosore (1): Dienosore
Toadesstern (1): Oatsmaster
Syllogism (4): Marvellosity, Clarity_nl, iamperfection, TheChronicler
Acrofales (1): Promethelax
Players who have yet to vote (12): CaveJohnson, Hapahauli, Z-BosoN, strongandbig, goodkarma, BioSC, Keirathi, syllogism, phagga, Adam4167, sandroba, Toadesstern
Remember that voting is mandatory.
All votes must be in by Thursday, Nov 22 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Does that mean you can actually vote for yourself? I figured that's not possible oO
My role says I need to be voted at least once a day. That's why I said I assumed you can't vote yourself. Greymist told me to change it to "you need to be voted once per cycle by someone OTHER than yourself"
On November 23 2012 00:48 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 00:36 risk.nuke wrote:On November 23 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:On November 22 2012 23:56 Toadesstern wrote:
@both:
Yeah kind of. I really think that the most likely scenario is that either Sandro or Syllo is mafia. And I am trying to figure things out, hence the Kita vote :p What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event? What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy? Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice. What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question. dude I just answered that with the post you quoted... Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else. Okay, let me rephrase: Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well). Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process? nope I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say? Why do you want this, Toad? I still need to find the guy I want to vote for. Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros. Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine. Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it. That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to? what do you mean I'm asking the wrong question? And what questions are you referring to? What the hell are you talking about? The fact that you asked about Goodkarma rather than why I'm voting Kita without reasoning. I would have thought the 2nd one should be the more interesting part. Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 00:35 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 00:30 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:23 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
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What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?
What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?
Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.
What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question. dude I just answered that with the post you quoted... Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else. Okay, let me rephrase: Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well). Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process? nope I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say? Why do you want this, Toad? I still need to find the guy I want to vote for. Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros. Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine. Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it.
That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to? Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing. If you still need to find a guy you want to vote for, why have you made a placeholder vote? In your first post of the game you said you would only be voting for someone you definitely had a townread on. Your play definitely needs emphasizing because it is out of character for you and it is quite important to know why. Okay marv. How many games did we play together? Tell me just one game in which I don't do things with lacking reasoning to get some reactions. I mean I wouldn't put it that way: Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing. because that's hardly the intention but I'm doing that literally every single game. Hence my suprise about why you're so puzzled of all people. Perhaps I don't remember your play too well, then. Sure you do illogical things, and half the time I don't understand what your posts are saying, but usually they are part of some big show. I don't think I'm wrong to think this. There's a lack of HypnoToad so far, don't you think? For all I know what you're criticising is "HypnoToad". Remember the game I was the phone booth mason in which you were mafia? I'd say that game was a characteristic "screw this I'm board, let's HypnoToad"-game to the extreme. I'm not planning on doing that again but that's what "HypnoToad" is about. Yeah there was no big fireworks this time around but it's still early in the game, isn't it? So I'm really having troubles with your judgement here. You're telling me there was little HypnoToad in this game so far and yet you're criticising me right now? That just not making sense and again, I feel like you should know better of all the people. Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 00:33 Acrofales wrote:On November 23 2012 00:30 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:23 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 00:20 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:13 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 00:12 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:11 Acrofales wrote:On November 23 2012 00:03 Toadesstern wrote:On November 23 2012 00:00 Acrofales wrote:
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What if Kita is the actual scum, but they're waiting for some gullible town, so their bandwagon seems less suspect when it utterly fails the first event?
What if you and Kita are scum together and your feigned naiveté is a calculated ploy?
Why Kita, and not GK? Hell, why not Dieno? If your entire reason for voting is that he has no bandwagon behind him, Dieno seems by far the best choice.
What is your reason for voting for KITA? And not your reason for voting against Sandro and Syllo, which is a different question. dude I just answered that with the post you quoted... Well not the 2nd question because that's obviously bullshit but everything else. Okay, let me rephrase: Your ONLY reason for thinking Kita is town is because you think one of Sandro/Syllo is scum. You are therefore blindly following him, implying you think he is not only town, but his judgement is good (and you therefore think Prom, Dieno and I are town as well). Is this a correct assessment of your recent thought process? nope I would like to know why you are seeking to make yourself irrelevant in this town. What is your motivation for making obscure posts without reasoning, and therefore leading town to distrust or ignore what you say? Why do you want this, Toad? I still need to find the guy I want to vote for. Syllo's most recent post was decent and so was Acros. Acro's apparently a bit on the slow side but that's fine. Risk is asking the wrong questions and you are suprisingly suprised about something you know very well and you should definitely not need to ask the questions you did. I would have expected you to just tell me to shut up and stop it without asking why I'm doing it.
That begs the question: why do you feel the need to emphasize on something like that when you shouldn't have to? Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing. If you still need to find a guy you want to vote for, why have you made a placeholder vote? In your first post of the game you said you would only be voting for someone you definitely had a townread on. Your play definitely needs emphasizing because it is out of character for you and it is quite important to know why. Okay marv. How many games did we play together? Tell me just one game in which I don't do things with lacking reasoning to get some reactions. I mean I wouldn't put it that way: Why would you expect this at all? The Toad I know for either alignment doesn't seek to marginalise himself like you seem to want to be doing. because that's hardly the intention but I'm doing that literally every single game. Hence my suprise about why you're so puzzled of all people. Oh god, is this Toad the drama queen feeling unloved because he didn't get elected party leader, so will now throw a temper tantrum by playing badly until the rest of town listens to him?
Dude, if you knew :p
I'm going to run to leader every single day from now on. I have to, it's my nature 
On November 24 2012 23:11 Toadesstern wrote:and Chronicler, if you really think my mafia meta is to lurk or soft defende people (pretty much everything you said about me) you prooooobably should be voting me as well. I like people voting me, gives me some attention I'm craving for so much, it's in my blood... or well, whatever else :pIf you don't think so could you please stop the nonsensical "OMFG TOAD IS LURKING" or "OMFG TOAD IS SOFTDEFENDING" when I at least admitted the first one myself (the 2nd one was just bullshit) and when clearly neither of those is alignment indicating at all for me. You're a smurf right? You should know me and you should very well know that I'm Mr. HypnoToad, especially in the games I ended up playing as mafia.... LI, never forget oh and hi VE So do me a favor and actually ready my posts instead of what you're doing right now.
Again, would have been best to outright claim it but I wanted to play it out. I had a bullshit postingrestriction last game as well and it freaked me the fuck out that I wasn't allowed to post for 48hours straight when I wanted to so badly. This time I just when chilling and thought I'll live with it instead of stressing me out how horrible this role is.
So again: When did you check me and Sandro?
And sorry for playing the way I did but I really had to. I don't assume you'll stop lynching me because I might as well make up some ridiculous bullshit and had this planned since the very first hour of the game I guess...
Anyway don't listen to Kita, don't lynch Draz. I'm going to use my 200HP heal on someone tonight, I don't think I'll be able to gather another charge if the next cycle is a lynch again and we (somehow oO) got a red check on me after how I played :p
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About choosing Marv as a party member.
15 page filter. Lotta 1 liners.
On November 21 2012 22:28 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 21:42 kitaman27 wrote:
There are quite a few people who claim to be voting for sandroba on the basis that they claim to be able to easily differentiate his scum play from his town play. The only reason I see this as the case is that he commonly gets lazy and stops caring or posting as mafia. However, that's simply due to personal choice. How many people here other than maybe syllo are confidant they can identify a scum sandro when he remains active? Having played with him in pypi (an election game), I know he is quite capable of fooling most people when there is something he wants.
I'm quite puzzled by the fact that marv hasn't run for election. As being one of the most active players recently, I think he would be fairly confident at being able to gain support for himself. As town, I know I want to be the leader because that is the only way to directly increase our chances of success. marv however appears to want to avoid the spotlight and participate in an advising role or at least gauge the support he has. Could you explain this decision?
Work time. I'll try to start identifying some town players when I get back if I'm confident enough. I'm not interested at running for party leader atm. And it's not about gauging support, I'd probably just tell town to vote for me from the get go if I wanted it. Why don't I want it? Like syllo I've been hoping to be somewhat 'lazy'. While I will give this game my full attention like any other, partly I've come along for the ride. I don't want to dominate this game (for better or worse) like I'm capable of doing. Plus I don't feel very at home in themed setups like this. There are going to be some differences in how scum/town players act compared to normal setups, and I don't know what they are yet. There are a few players in this game who I hold in extremely high regard (I think are better than me) and in that situation I feel somewhat insecure. If those players weren't in the game I'm pretty sure I would be standing for party leader because I'd think I knew best out of everyone playing, but I don't think that in this game.
This sounds extremely genuine and not at all what scum would do.
He was the first to vote syllo.
I think that the damage he took also shows that he isnt scum, Marv wasnt on anyone scumdar so therefore scum attacked him.
About Chronicler, I also have no reason to doubt his claim on checking Toad and sandro.
So.
My Team is.
Dieno
Marv
Chronicler
AT THIS POINT
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