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On November 25 2012 12:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm more just prickly that Acro feels the need to straight up insult me with no further reasoning than he's lying. I haven't actually made up my mind about who I believe yet.
I'm with Acro on this one - it looks pretty obvious that he's lying. Question is whether or not he's third party or mafia. I'm inclined to believe mafia due to Chronicler's night action, as well as Toad's lack of scumhunting D1.
Hell he targeted me with a 100hp attack... without ever having a scumread on me? Totally town.
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Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
What are you thoughts on my team picks, oats?
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I think that phagga is a null read, there is really nothing he has done so far.
Clarity, day 1 he had a lot of useless 1 liners but he has improved from there, I have a slight town read on him but after thinking about it, I think that he shouldnt be in the party
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Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
Hmm, that would explain why they didn't really give off any warning signals on my map...
Back to the drawing board I suppose.
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On November 25 2012 12:10 Dienosore wrote:
k, if I'm leader, I would take:
Oats
Clarity
Phagga
These might change after I do a bit more digging. So far, though, they are the only ones who my maps indicate as not connected with any suspected scum.
That team is adequate.
Dienosore and Oats were successful on the day 1 mission.
Clarity, as I stated previously, was obviously scum when he rolled scum in Newbie Mini XXX. Looks much closer to his Mario Mini play style, where he was town. Add on top of that, he was sandrobas' attempted mislynch.
Phagga looks just as townie as the last time I mentioned him.
##Vote: Dienosore
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On November 25 2012 12:50 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 12:10 Dienosore wrote:
k, if I'm leader, I would take:
Oats
Clarity
Phagga
These might change after I do a bit more digging. So far, though, they are the only ones who my maps indicate as not connected with any suspected scum. That team is adequate. Dienosore and Oats were successful on the day 1 mission. Clarity, as I stated previously, was obviously scum when he rolled scum in Newbie Mini XXX. Looks much closer to his Mario Mini play style, where he was town. Add on top of that, he was sandrobas' attempted mislynch. Phagga looks just as townie as the last time I mentioned him. ##Vote: Dienosore
I'm a bit skeptical about Phagga, and you haven't mentioned him much in your filter. I'm much more null on him than you are - can you give me the run-down about why he's so townie?
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On November 25 2012 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 12:22 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 25 2012 12:14 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern You're an idiot. He's lying. Oh, you're his scumbuddy? Because that's really the only way I see that statement being both an insult and true. You seem to be forgetting a bunch of things regarding that claim. 1) Toad is scummy as shit. 2) The role isn't necessarily blue - it could be red 3) The role is much more powerful than the other town-alligned roles we've seen so far.
except for the part where I take 500 fucking damage if I don't get a vote on me every cycle...
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On November 25 2012 12:57 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 12:22 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 25 2012 12:14 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern You're an idiot. He's lying. Oh, you're his scumbuddy? Because that's really the only way I see that statement being both an insult and true. You seem to be forgetting a bunch of things regarding that claim. 1) Toad is scummy as shit. 2) The role isn't necessarily blue - it could be red 3) The role is much more powerful than the other town-alligned roles we've seen so far. except for the part where I take 500 fucking damage if I don't get a vote on me every cycle...
Yeah yeah. Pull the other one, it has bells on it!
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On November 25 2012 12:57 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 12:22 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 25 2012 12:14 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern You're an idiot. He's lying. Oh, you're his scumbuddy? Because that's really the only way I see that statement being both an insult and true. You seem to be forgetting a bunch of things regarding that claim. 1) Toad is scummy as shit. 2) The role isn't necessarily blue - it could be red 3) The role is much more powerful than the other town-alligned roles we've seen so far. except for the part where I take 500 fucking damage if I don't get a vote on me every cycle...
Cool. So that changes things why exactly? Hell I have a hard time you're telling the truth about that ability.
Secondly, you still have yet to explain this:
On November 25 2012 11:55 Hapahauli wrote:
Just to get this straight Toad - you targeted me with 100 damage despite never mentioning me as a scumread in your filter? Ok buddy.
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On November 25 2012 11:53 Toadesstern wrote:
oh and obviously asking people yesterday about voting me please (I think I asked chronicler & acro) was as well because I still needed the one vote to dodge the 500dmg.
Oh and I'll run for leader, vote me please :3
So... you took 500 damage D1 then?
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dino you have my vote if you remove phagga. from besides myself (obiously) i would like you to pick marv he would be my top town read at this point.
I think your other picks are great.
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On November 25 2012 13:09 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:53 Toadesstern wrote:
oh and obviously asking people yesterday about voting me please (I think I asked chronicler & acro) was as well because I still needed the one vote to dodge the 500dmg.
Oh and I'll run for leader, vote me please :3 So... you took 500 damage D1 then?
nope. someone voted me.
On November 25 2012 13:01 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 12:57 Toadesstern wrote:On November 25 2012 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 12:22 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 25 2012 12:14 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern You're an idiot. He's lying. Oh, you're his scumbuddy? Because that's really the only way I see that statement being both an insult and true. You seem to be forgetting a bunch of things regarding that claim. 1) Toad is scummy as shit. 2) The role isn't necessarily blue - it could be red 3) The role is much more powerful than the other town-alligned roles we've seen so far. except for the part where I take 500 fucking damage if I don't get a vote on me every cycle... Cool. So that changes things why exactly? Hell I have a hard time you're telling the truth about that ability. Secondly, you still have yet to explain this: Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 11:55 Hapahauli wrote:
Just to get this straight Toad - you targeted me with 100 damage despite never mentioning me as a scumread in your filter? Ok buddy.
I'm redistributing HP a little +EV. I'm hitting people who aren't going to be protected above anything else. I even hit myself n1 to get that charge. Probably (?) would not have gotten the charge had I targeted Sandro because he was lynched.
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Wow, so it seems sand was scum after all.
well done, syllo.
Right now I'm sticking with Keir. He's semi-confirmed town and knows what's up. I've had the same feeling about marv, he began the game playing uncompromisingly, but now his play has been much better.
##Vote Keirathi
Also, is anyone not bothered by the fact that hopeless1der has not scumhunted at all this game?
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On November 25 2012 13:17 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:09 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 11:53 Toadesstern wrote:
oh and obviously asking people yesterday about voting me please (I think I asked chronicler & acro) was as well because I still needed the one vote to dodge the 500dmg.
Oh and I'll run for leader, vote me please :3 So... you took 500 damage D1 then? nope. someone voted me. Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:01 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 12:57 Toadesstern wrote:On November 25 2012 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 12:22 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 25 2012 12:14 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern You're an idiot. He's lying. Oh, you're his scumbuddy? Because that's really the only way I see that statement being both an insult and true. You seem to be forgetting a bunch of things regarding that claim. 1) Toad is scummy as shit. 2) The role isn't necessarily blue - it could be red 3) The role is much more powerful than the other town-alligned roles we've seen so far. except for the part where I take 500 fucking damage if I don't get a vote on me every cycle... Cool. So that changes things why exactly? Hell I have a hard time you're telling the truth about that ability. Secondly, you still have yet to explain this: On November 25 2012 11:55 Hapahauli wrote:
Just to get this straight Toad - you targeted me with 100 damage despite never mentioning me as a scumread in your filter? Ok buddy. I'm redistributing HP a little +EV. I'm hitting people who aren't going to be protected above anything else. I even hit myself n1 to get that charge. Probably (?) would not have gotten the charge had I targeted Sandro because he was lynched.
Zzzz, I'm tired of your lies. I have a 1-shot role+alignment check. Used it on you last night. You're Queen Zeal
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Prom, get back to you in a sec, reading your response.
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On November 25 2012 12:53 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 12:50 Adam4167 wrote:On November 25 2012 12:10 Dienosore wrote:
k, if I'm leader, I would take:
Oats
Clarity
Phagga
These might change after I do a bit more digging. So far, though, they are the only ones who my maps indicate as not connected with any suspected scum. That team is adequate. Dienosore and Oats were successful on the day 1 mission. Clarity, as I stated previously, was obviously scum when he rolled scum in Newbie Mini XXX. Looks much closer to his Mario Mini play style, where he was town. Add on top of that, he was sandrobas' attempted mislynch. Phagga looks just as townie as the last time I mentioned him. ##Vote: Dienosore I'm a bit skeptical about Phagga, and you haven't mentioned him much in your filter. I'm much more null on him than you are - can you give me the run-down about why he's so townie?
I find him townie because of his attitude towards the game and its what was lacking in sandroba's play. He sees something he considers strange, so he questions the person on it to try and gauge what the persons motives are, and hopefully gain some insight into their alignment. Some examples:
link1
link2
link3
I find scum rarely do this, as they would rather just pounce on the person without actually giving them a reason to explain their behaviour, just in case the person has a reason for what they're doing, then the scum has to go find someone else to fabricate a case on. This is fake-able as scum, yes, but giving people a chance to explain themselves makes your job much harder.
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On November 25 2012 13:20 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:17 Toadesstern wrote:On November 25 2012 13:09 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 11:53 Toadesstern wrote:
oh and obviously asking people yesterday about voting me please (I think I asked chronicler & acro) was as well because I still needed the one vote to dodge the 500dmg.
Oh and I'll run for leader, vote me please :3 So... you took 500 damage D1 then? nope. someone voted me. On November 25 2012 13:01 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 12:57 Toadesstern wrote:On November 25 2012 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 12:22 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 25 2012 12:14 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern You're an idiot. He's lying. Oh, you're his scumbuddy? Because that's really the only way I see that statement being both an insult and true. You seem to be forgetting a bunch of things regarding that claim. 1) Toad is scummy as shit. 2) The role isn't necessarily blue - it could be red 3) The role is much more powerful than the other town-alligned roles we've seen so far. except for the part where I take 500 fucking damage if I don't get a vote on me every cycle... Cool. So that changes things why exactly? Hell I have a hard time you're telling the truth about that ability. Secondly, you still have yet to explain this: On November 25 2012 11:55 Hapahauli wrote:
Just to get this straight Toad - you targeted me with 100 damage despite never mentioning me as a scumread in your filter? Ok buddy. I'm redistributing HP a little +EV. I'm hitting people who aren't going to be protected above anything else. I even hit myself n1 to get that charge. Probably (?) would not have gotten the charge had I targeted Sandro because he was lynched. Zzzz, I'm tired of your lies. I have a 1-shot role+alignment check. Used it on you last night. You're Queen Zeal
Well no I'm not.
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EBWOP: That first line on the second paragraph should read:
"I find scum rarely do this, as they would rather just pounce on the person without actually giving them a chance to explain their behavior, ect"
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On November 25 2012 13:26 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 13:20 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 13:17 Toadesstern wrote:On November 25 2012 13:09 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 11:53 Toadesstern wrote:
oh and obviously asking people yesterday about voting me please (I think I asked chronicler & acro) was as well because I still needed the one vote to dodge the 500dmg.
Oh and I'll run for leader, vote me please :3 So... you took 500 damage D1 then? nope. someone voted me. On November 25 2012 13:01 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 12:57 Toadesstern wrote:On November 25 2012 12:24 Hapahauli wrote:On November 25 2012 12:22 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 25 2012 12:14 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
Hey Tooaaaadddd...Can i haz ur heal? I'll give this vote I found. Look!
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote Toadesstern You're an idiot. He's lying. Oh, you're his scumbuddy? Because that's really the only way I see that statement being both an insult and true. You seem to be forgetting a bunch of things regarding that claim. 1) Toad is scummy as shit. 2) The role isn't necessarily blue - it could be red 3) The role is much more powerful than the other town-alligned roles we've seen so far. except for the part where I take 500 fucking damage if I don't get a vote on me every cycle... Cool. So that changes things why exactly? Hell I have a hard time you're telling the truth about that ability. Secondly, you still have yet to explain this: On November 25 2012 11:55 Hapahauli wrote:
Just to get this straight Toad - you targeted me with 100 damage despite never mentioning me as a scumread in your filter? Ok buddy. I'm redistributing HP a little +EV. I'm hitting people who aren't going to be protected above anything else. I even hit myself n1 to get that charge. Probably (?) would not have gotten the charge had I targeted Sandro because he was lynched. Zzzz, I'm tired of your lies. I have a 1-shot role+alignment check. Used it on you last night. You're Queen Zeal Well no I'm not.
Okay, lets entertain the hypnotoad for a little bit, because I'm bored. You are hereby claiming that either TheChronicler and I are both scum and lying, or you were bussed/framed/whatever two nights in a row. I can understand N2, because I was ramping up the heat on you, but N1 as well? Lol.
The other thing wrong with your claim is that there were no votes on you D1. At some point Oats voted for you, but at the end of the day there was nobody voting for you... unless you're saying you have a secret doublevoting scumbuddy of course.
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On November 25 2012 13:20 Z-BosoN wrote:
Wow, so it seems sand was scum after all.
well done, syllo.
Right now I'm sticking with Keir. He's semi-confirmed town and knows what's up. I've had the same feeling about marv, he began the game playing uncompromisingly, but now his play has been much better.
##Vote Keirathi
Also, is anyone not bothered by the fact that hopeless1der has not scumhunted at all this game?
Unless you believe that Oats is lying about being Robo, I think that Oats and Dieno should be the two party members from last round that are in this party as well, rather than me or syllo. Oats because he's a Future era character and likely gets bonuses, and Dieno because he is very nearly 'confirmed' town, whereas neither myself nor syllo are.
However, I'm not really sure which one should be voted as leader.
I wasn't overly confident in either of their picks/reasonings behind them.
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