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I took 30 damage, same as Djo. And we both took 20 damage last night. I'm willling to guess we'll take 40 damage tonight.
Anyway, marv I'm guessing you only got notified of any damage you took?
On November 25 2012 15:03 Dienosore wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 14:16 Dienosore wrote:On November 25 2012 07:26 Djodref wrote:
My guess is that we are going to be back at picking a party leader tomorrow. The problem is that I think that the final blow is going to be delivered to Frog tonight so we'll have to find a new "almost confirmed" town player for tomorrow... Why were you so confident I would be dead? I'm beginning to rethink your spot. Oh I just found this! Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 10:27 Djodref wrote:
@marv
I think we can limit ourselves to one party member from the last time. Dieno is the most obvious town in my eyes. I don't know how he is still alive but I would definitively take him in my party. Why does does it surprise you so much that im still alive & kickin?!
Djo he already said he took 425 or 450 dmg last night and another blow like that would cripple him, not kill him.
Anyway good lynch guys! I'm inclined to believe the DT checks on Toad, now the question is, was he an obvious 'framer' target, and if so, does that change the fact that he should die?
The case on hopeless seems pretty damning.
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Dieno, did you take any damage tonight?
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On November 25 2012 15:03 Dienosore wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 14:16 Dienosore wrote:On November 25 2012 07:26 Djodref wrote:
My guess is that we are going to be back at picking a party leader tomorrow. The problem is that I think that the final blow is going to be delivered to Frog tonight so we'll have to find a new "almost confirmed" town player for tomorrow... Why were you so confident I would be dead? I'm beginning to rethink your spot. Oh I just found this! Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 10:27 Djodref wrote:
@marv
I think we can limit ourselves to one party member from the last time. Dieno is the most obvious town in my eyes. I don't know how he is still alive but I would definitively take him in my party. Why does does it surprise you so much that im still alive & kickin?!
@Dieno
Tell me what you think about my previous post in response to your concern.
By the way, I would like to know in which way it influences your read on me.
I find you cute and funny, it's very refreshing to see how much effort you put in your chart but I should warn you from trusting the results you can directly infer from these connections. Townies are going to suspect Townies, townies are going to trust townies and/or mafia players. But mafia players are going to try to cause the maximum confusion for eveybody...
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On November 25 2012 15:37 Clarity_nl wrote:I took 30 damage, same as Djo. And we both took 20 damage last night. I'm willling to guess we'll take 40 damage tonight. Anyway, marv I'm guessing you only got notified of any damage you took? Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 15:03 Dienosore wrote:On November 25 2012 14:16 Dienosore wrote:On November 25 2012 07:26 Djodref wrote:
My guess is that we are going to be back at picking a party leader tomorrow. The problem is that I think that the final blow is going to be delivered to Frog tonight so we'll have to find a new "almost confirmed" town player for tomorrow... Why were you so confident I would be dead? I'm beginning to rethink your spot. Oh I just found this! On November 25 2012 10:27 Djodref wrote:
@marv
I think we can limit ourselves to one party member from the last time. Dieno is the most obvious town in my eyes. I don't know how he is still alive but I would definitively take him in my party. Why does does it surprise you so much that im still alive & kickin?! Djo he already said he took 425 or 450 dmg last night and another blow like that would cripple him, not kill him. Anyway good lynch guys! I'm inclined to believe the DT checks on Toad, now the question is, was he an obvious 'framer' target, and if so, does that change the fact that he should die? The case on hopeless seems pretty damning.
Well, first of all, nobody died tonight and the amount of kp taken claimed so far is rather low. I'm going to wait a little to draw conclusions, especially because Dieno is not claiming so far, but I find it really weird that nobody died from mafia KP in two cycles. I also think that I'm going to suffer 40 dmg tonight, I just hope it's going to stop one day...
TheChronicler claims that he checked sandro and Toad d1 and Acro d2. TheChronicler story makes sense, he even tells us that he wanted to lynch sandro for information. I think that I was wrong about him. I'm still a little wary and I would not vote for a party with him as a member but I'm going to drop my case until firther notice.
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Most reasonable Party for this Cycle
- Party leader: Strong town player who has already shown his alignment (Acro or maybe marv) or me, Djodref ^^
- Dieno and/or Oats, I think we are in a very good position (no NKs yet) and we should get ballsy and pick only one of them to get more "likely to be town" players
- One or two "easy to identify as town" players like Clarity or Hapa or me
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On November 25 2012 15:32 Djodref wrote:
@dieno
Given that this game choice mechanics are mainly going to be focused on the election of a party leader and on the composition of the party members, I'll say that the biggest asset we have as town is Oats and you right now. You have both claimed and your play scream out loud that you are town newbies. This quality is easy to recognize and it is reinforced by the fact that you have already helped one event to succeed. Given your roles, I bet that your hidden factor is quite reasonable in any era on top of that.
Being the biggest asset of town, you are also a great threat for the mafia. So I expected you to be killed, because you were the only one to have claimed at that time.
Since you've said yourself I am one of the biggest assets to town and I am such a big threat to the mafia, why didn't you assume that the town wouldn't protect me somehow?
Also, this seems like a suspiciously long explanation to a short question...
@everyone
I don't think that Oats or Dieno should be party leaders.
As much as I appreciate their enthustiasm and the fact that they are easily recognizqble town players, I don't trust their judent. I would like to remind you that syllo received a gift the first cycle because his party was successful. I would prefer experienced players to receive such gifts. Moreover, I think that Oats and Dieno are both the closest to be confirmed town players. That make them big targets for the mafia. That's another reason why they should not receive these gifts which could be helpful to fight Lavos.
You don't trust our judgement? Obviously I am going to listen to everyone's input about possible group members before I make a decision, so that's a terrible argument. About the item, and I'd like to think that even though my mafia experience may be limited, i'd still recognize the proper time to use an item lol. It really cant be that hard. The fact that I still have a huge target on my back and may die before I get to use the item is a valid point, though.
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^ Ack, double negative in my first paragraph shouldn't be there
"Why didn't you assume the town would protect me..."
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Does that mean you were notified of protection? I ask again, did you take damage?
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On November 25 2012 15:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
Dieno, did you take any damage tonight?
Sry, I'd rather not say unless you absolutely demand it of me
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On November 25 2012 16:24 Dienosore wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 15:37 Clarity_nl wrote:
Dieno, did you take any damage tonight? Sry, I'd rather not say unless you absolutely demand it of me
Okay that's fine.
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On November 25 2012 16:13 Djodref wrote:
Most reasonable Party for this Cycle
- Party leader: Strong town player who has already shown his alignment (Acro or maybe marv) or me, Djodref ^^
- Dieno and/or Oats, I think we are in a very good position (no NKs yet) and we should get ballsy and pick only one of them to get more "likely to be town" players
- One or two "easy to identify as town" players like Clarity or Hapa or me
Why in the world would we do that? Our primary goal this game is to kill Lavos. Winning events probably helps us do that in some way or another. Therefore we want to win every event possible, not leave townies out of them just to be "ballsy".
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Prom I only skimmed the thread, but are you saying that you lied about your roleblock and your ability?
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On November 25 2012 16:17 Dienosore wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 15:32 Djodref wrote:
@dieno
Given that this game choice mechanics are mainly going to be focused on the election of a party leader and on the composition of the party members, I'll say that the biggest asset we have as town is Oats and you right now. You have both claimed and your play scream out loud that you are town newbies. This quality is easy to recognize and it is reinforced by the fact that you have already helped one event to succeed. Given your roles, I bet that your hidden factor is quite reasonable in any era on top of that.
Being the biggest asset of town, you are also a great threat for the mafia. So I expected you to be killed, because you were the only one to have claimed at that time.
Since you've said yourself I am one of the biggest assets to town and I am such a big threat to the mafia, why didn't you assume that the town wouldn't protect me somehow? Also, this seems like a suspiciously long explanation to a short question... Show nested quote +
@everyone
I don't think that Oats or Dieno should be party leaders.
As much as I appreciate their enthustiasm and the fact that they are easily recognizqble town players, I don't trust their judent. I would like to remind you that syllo received a gift the first cycle because his party was successful. I would prefer experienced players to receive such gifts. Moreover, I think that Oats and Dieno are both the closest to be confirmed town players. That make them big targets for the mafia. That's another reason why they should not receive these gifts which could be helpful to fight Lavos.
You don't trust our judgement? Obviously I am going to listen to everyone's input about possible group members before I make a decision, so that's a terrible argument. About the item, and I'd like to think that even though my mafia experience may be limited, i'd still recognize the proper time to use an item lol. It really cant be that hard. The fact that I still have a huge target on my back and may die before I get to use the item is a valid point, though.
In fact, I thought that you got protected. The fact that the amount of claimed KP is low and that you didn't want to say what happened to you and your reaction right now almost confirms it. Did you get protection last cycle ?
Could you tell us how much damage you took ?
For the other point, the fact that you considered phagga for your party and the fact that you are basing a lot of your decisions on your chart makes me uncomfortable to trust unique items to you. I don't doubt that you are going to listen to other players but some of them could be mafia. Moreover, I don't know how much protection you can get but I giess that you are going to die if mafia really wants you dead.
Don't worry, you made already a ver good job by playing like you do. You are almost confirmed now so it is incredibly useful for us now. I understand your frustation but we have to play as a team and you did already more than your part ^^
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Im not going to tell you how much dmg I took last night, sorry, djo.
That being said, here is the claimed dmg report so far:
+ Show Spoiler +
Happahauli : 100 dmg
Kitaman27 : 50 dmg
Iamp : 30 dmg + a heal
Acro : 30 dmg
Djo : 30 dmg
Clarity : 30 dmg
Also, here is a list of notable claims and developments:
+ Show Spoiler +
- prome claims marv targeted syllo with a spell
- marv says hes a medic
- kita says new game is if hapa, oats, or phagga vote for him, he dmgs ppl
- keirathi claims to be 600ad char, possibly medic?
- oats claims robo and has multiple abilities
- Thechronicler claims he can see if two people are the same alignment, incriminated toad
- acro knows chronicler is being truthful, doesnt want to come into the group, says toad is queen zeal
- toad claims johnny, the attention whore robot, going to use 200 hp heal, redistrubute hp by hitting people, exposed as queen zeal scum by acro
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On November 25 2012 16:33 syllogism wrote:
Prom I only skimmed the thread, but are you saying that you lied about your roleblock and your ability?
Nice job with your read on sandro. Sorry for not having sheeped on you...
Did you take any damage ?
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On November 25 2012 16:38 Dienosore wrote:Im not going to tell you how much dmg I took last night, sorry, djo. That being said, here is the claimed dmg report so far: + Show Spoiler +
Happahauli : 100 dmg
Kitaman27 : 50 dmg
Iamp : 30 dmg + a heal
Acro : 30 dmg
Djo : 30 dmg
Clarity : 30 dmg
Also, here is a list of notable claims and developments: + Show Spoiler +
- prome claims marv targeted syllo with a spell
- marv says hes a medic
- kita says new game is if hapa, oats, or phagga vote for him, he dmgs ppl
- keirathi claims to be 600ad char, possibly medic?
- oats claims robo and has multiple abilities
- Thechronicler claims he can see if two people are the same alignment, incriminated toad
- acro knows chronicler is being truthful, doesnt want to come into the group, says toad is queen zeal
- toad claims johnny, the attention whore robot, going to use 200 hp heal, redistrubute hp by hitting people, exposed as queen zeal scum by acro
Prome story and the fact that both sandro and marv got roleblocked N1 makes sense... Not sure if we can 100% trust marv medic claim but I would say yes at first glance. @marv who did you target N2 ?
Acro story and TheChronicler story make sense. Toad is scum imo. Not sure if we should exempt TheChronicler from being Scum but he is more likely to be town than anything else now.
I don't see any reason to doubt Keir claim.
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On November 25 2012 16:34 Djodref wrote:
For the other point, the fact that you considered phagga for your party and the fact that you are basing a lot of your decisions on your chart makes me uncomfortable to trust unique items to you.
Sorry, I don't mean to pick on you, but I have to ask this. Do you have a read on phagga that shows scum? Any specific reason why you dont trust him to be in the group?
I don't doubt that you are going to listen to other players but some of them could be mafia.
true, but if mafia try to mislead me, I'd expect the players that I have really good towny reads on to set them straight.
I don't know how much protection you can get but I giess that you are going to die if mafia really wants you dead.
Oooo... scary... 
Don't worry, you made already a ver good job by playing like you do. You are almost confirmed now so it is incredibly useful for us now. I understand your frustation but we have to play as a team and you did already more than your part ^^
Thank you for these kind words at least ^^
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Why do you have "possibly medic?" next to me?
I'm not a medic, nor have I claimed to be one at all :o
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EBWOB: by the way, you didn't deny the protection part, Dieno, so I'm going to assume that you were indeed healed or protected or some stuff 
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Anyway, I was roleblocked and took no damage
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