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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On November 25 2012 17:39 syllogism wrote: I read that, but does it unambiguously say that he used the same ability on me on n1 and n2 i don't see anything about his n2 action | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
 . Djo, why are you trying so hard to get elected? Do you have strong objections to either me or diens party? I would take diens party but with me as leader because I would survive longer | ||
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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
On November 25 2012 17:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Clarity, Chronicler claimed the alignment thing not me . Djo, why are you trying so hard to get elected? Do you have strong objections to either me or diens party? I would take diens party but with me as leader because I would survive longerThis is acceptable to me. ##Vote: Oatsmaster | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
## Vote oats | ||
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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
 On November 25 2012 12:01 Hopeless1der wrote: ##Unvote: Oatsmaster ##Vote Toadesstern | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Today, Vote Djodref as your Party Leader ! [i]Campaign Platform[i] First of all, I would like to say that my main motivation for launching this campaign is to promote my ideas,like in real politics. I would greatly appreciate that you manifest your support of my ideas via your votes. I really want to win this election! Top 1 reason to vote for me I'm town and it is the only thing I know for sure in this game. This is something I want to show and prove to you during this campaign and by eventually leading you to a successful event ! Top 2 reason to vote for me: avoid the concentration of powers As I've explained before, I think that the town biggest assets right now are Oats and Dieno. I don't want them to run as party leaders and gain some items that would make them a vulnerability for the town for the day we lost one of them to thr mafia or to Lavos. I'm going to keep only one of the players of the previous party and introduce three new players including myself. I'm very confident to get the event to succeed with my team. So we are going to have three players "more likely to be town" that we could easily not consider as lynch candidates for the next lynch event. My ticket
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 25 2012 17:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Clarity, Chronicler claimed the alignment thing not me . Djo, why are you trying so hard to get elected? Do you have strong objections to either me or diens party? I would take diens party but with me as leader because I would survive longerMy objection is that I don't want ton concentrate too much of the town assets on newbie players like you. I don't want to loose too much when the mafia or Lavos manage to kill you or Dieno. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 25 2012 17:59 iamperfection wrote: djo will this mystery player remain a secret? Yes, I'm not going to reveal him at all ^^ | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
No. Never, ever. We have to win the events. We still have our wits to lynch scum, we don't need to risk event success for some "ballsy" play. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On November 25 2012 18:02 Djodref wrote: My objection is that I don't want ton concentrate too much of the town assets on newbie players like you. I don't want to loose too much when the mafia or Lavos manage to kill you or Dieno. why are we making an assumption that the assets would be better in their hands anyways? Also why would the mafia have an easier time killing oats or anyone else for that matter? 1. we dont know if a so called vet having the item is any better than a so called newer player 2. we dont know the roles of our fellow members that could be more beneficial against the lavos. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 25 2012 17:34 Keirathi wrote: I think winning the event is more imperative that having some more town reads. And, no offense, but I wouldn't vote for you for party leader anyways. No offense taken. Also I respect your position. I'm favorable for a higher risk/higher reward play and I think that my idea deserves at least to be promoted. What do you think about avoiding to concentrate our assets on the newbies ? | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
On November 25 2012 18:04 Djodref wrote: Yes, I'm not going to reveal him at all ^^ then you wont have my vote and i dont think you will get anyone else's vote. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On November 25 2012 18:08 Djodref wrote: No offense taken. Also I respect your position. I'm favorable for a higher risk/higher reward play and I think that my idea deserves at least to be promoted. What do you think about avoiding to concentrate our assets on the newbies ? "Concentrating" them? Syllo has our only 'gift' so far. And we have no idea what it is, or what it does. Also, I'm not necessarily objecting having someone else be party leader other than the two of them. But I am 100% objecting to a party that doesn't contain both of them. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9642 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 25 2012 18:07 iamperfection wrote: why are we making an assumption that the assets would be better in their hands anyways? Also why would the mafia have an easier time killing oats or anyone else for that matter? 1. we dont know if a so called vet having the item is any better than a so called newer player 2. we dont know the roles of our fellow members that could be more beneficial against the lavos. 1. I'm sure a vet would make a better use of the item than the newbie. But I have no idea of the relation between item/character. 2. Me neither but I assume that it is safer to trust the vets to take better decisions than the newbies to fight Lavos, regardless of their roles and abilities. | ||
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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
Ugh my eyes are bleeding. We are going to be targets whether or not we are in the group, so there is no reason not to put us in right now. Completing events is my #1 goal right now. Any scum that we can turn over in the meantime is just extra cake for dessert. Until we have an established group, I don't think we should take any chances at the challenges. It feels to me as if you are setting yourself up to drag in some unknown scumbuddy into the group, win the challenge anyway because of Robo carry, then be in a position of power to control the opinion of the lynch vote the next day. In the meantime, your scumbuddy now has good towny cred for passing a challenge. Your third reason is just a straw point to back up your power play. While it's true that more people will have passed the group test and therefor be slightly 'cleaner' than others, I don't think it's worth it. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On November 25 2012 18:13 Djodref wrote: 1. I'm sure a vet would make a better use of the item than the newbie. But I have no idea of the relation between item/character. 2. Me neither but I assume that it is safer to trust the vets to take better decisions than the newbies to fight Lavos, regardless of their roles and abilities. You're making a lot of assumptions that don't make logical sense. It's quite possible that whatever the 'gift' is ONLY works on Lavos, in which case it doesn't matter WHO has it. Also, we don't even know that its something you can 'use' anyways. Maybe its just a buff to all abilities used against Lavos. Or maybe its a debuff on Lavos that does something else. You're assuming too much when you know absolutely nothing. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On November 25 2012 17:56 Djodref wrote: Today, Vote Djodref as your Party Leader ! [i]Campaign Platform[i] First of all, I would like to say that my main motivation for launching this campaign is to promote my ideas,like in real politics. I would greatly appreciate that you manifest your support of my ideas via your votes. I really want to win this election! Top 1 reason to vote for me I'm town and it is the only thing I know for sure in this game. This is something I want to show and prove to you during this campaign and by eventually leading you to a successful event ! Top 2 reason to vote for me: avoid the concentration of powers As I've explained before, I think that the town biggest assets right now are Oats and Dieno. I don't want them to run as party leaders and gain some items that would make them a vulnerability for the town for the day we lost one of them to thr mafia or to Lavos. I'm going to keep only one of the players of the previous party and introduce three new players including myself. I'm very confident to get the event to succeed with my team. So we are going to have three players "more likely to be town" that we could easily not consider as lynch candidates for the next lynch event. My ticket
A few things about this...: 1) Okay. You know you're town... I'd say it's safe to assume that Oats and Dieno are town, and you should know that as well. What exactly is wrong with letting let's say Oats take the lead? 2) You say you want to protect them by having the items for yourself? Doesn't that just make you a strong target instead??? Keep in mind that Dieno isn't dead yet, and, if as a main character he can stay alive then Oats + Show Spoiler + (who to the best of my knowledge, I'm not re-reading the "damage report" again...) As of now, using all their resources they have failed to kill a single player two turns into the game. I'd guess that the survivability Oats has actually would make him less of a target as scum is likely to try its best to start killing people, and I'm not sold they can kill Oats in one turn even with everything they've got only on him (based off the total damages reported in the game thus far). Also: dieno and Oats have already claimed, and everyone believes them to be town. So, they are going to be a target whether or not they go... Finally, having a "secret fouth" is fine if you have a demonstrated strong ability to read players. I don't, however, believe that you're going to have the strong reads that someone such as syllo does. I was not okay with syllo having secret reads, but voted him anyway day 1 due to a lack of better options... Since that point, he has demonstrated his reads to be solid to us. You are yet another player who I've never played with before, but unlike syllo, you don't have a strong reputation for making solid reads. So, I am far less satisfied with the idea of a "mystery member" in your party... I can't vote for you. Your reasoning for running is pretty poor. The most pro-town thing you can do is to step down and let a "confirmed town" take the lead. The problems you have with someone like Oats running are rather non-existent... | ||
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