Fair enough ^^
Why didn't you comment on my third point: giving mafia less room to hide ?
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 25 2012 18:25 goodkarma wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2012 18:24 Djodref wrote: On November 25 2012 18:08 iamperfection wrote: On November 25 2012 18:04 Djodref wrote: On November 25 2012 17:59 iamperfection wrote: djo will this mystery player remain a secret? Yes, I'm not going to reveal him at all ^^ then you wont have my vote and i dont think you will get anyone else's vote. Come on, have you forget on which campaign platform syllo has been elected ? This guy has been elected qhen his plan was to reveal nothing... But you're not syllo ![]() Fair enough ^^ Why didn't you comment on my third point: giving mafia less room to hide ? | ||
Keirathi
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Is your main point to confirm townies? Or to complete the event? Because if we fail the event, we have 3 people to lynch and only 1 of them is mafia, I think. So it would be really easy to mislynch at this point. Playing safe is the best way to play in the situation we are in now. | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On November 25 2012 18:57 Dienosore wrote: When did you get it, and how were you notified that you got it? I was told in PM. I don't really want to be more specific than that since it's kind of a gray area rules-wise. It says I got an item and what it does. It's not really important. | ||
CaveJohnson
278 Posts
On November 25 2012 19:06 syllogism wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2012 18:57 Dienosore wrote: When did you get it, and how were you notified that you got it? I was told in PM. I don't really want to be more specific than that since it's kind of a gray area rules-wise. It says I got an item and what it does. It's not really important. Is it a seed? | ||
Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 25 2012 09:36 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2012 09:34 Promethelax wrote: hey Marv, baby, why did you target Syllo n1? + Show Spoiler + sorry about my play sensei, I will do better I'm basically a medic type role. I reduce incoming HP by half on the target player (or in 600 AD, 2 players). @marv If I'm correct, we were in 600Ad during cycle 1,do you mind sharing with us who your other target was ? | ||
Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 25 2012 19:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Djo, Im confused. Is your main point to confirm townies? Or to complete the event? Because if we fail the event, we have 3 people to lynch and only 1 of them is mafia, I think. So it would be really easy to mislynch at this point. Playing safe is the best way to play in the situation we are in now. My goal is to do both at the same time. High risk/high reward play ^^ | ||
Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
We have a great advantage at the point, 1 dead scum and 1 basically confirmed scum. I really dont want us to lose it by playing too risky which I think that your plan is | ||
CaveJohnson
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
Summery: Vote Dieno over oats, party leader can't be party leader two times in a row so save the guy with more health for later. In response to Syllo: My role as I claimed it was true though I only mentioned one of my abilities. I did not use that ability in cycle two and therefore will not be claiming my action(s) from that cycle since knowing them will not help town but could aid scum in knowing what kind of threat I pose. I also think that the gift you got is quest related due to my ability. Same as I think the damage you took was mafia KP. Zbo and Hapa: you both said you would respond to my points but didn't. Toad: I doubt you are town but if you are think about the fact that I will be using my claimed ability this cycle to protect a strong townie so you need to direct your heal somewhere that I don't direct my ability. Djo: your campaign is bad. Not a chance you'd get my vote. | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
but seriously, we still have 36 hours, I say we pressure the lurkers into doing stuff. VE Is your silence role related? Hopeless, where did you go? risk.nuke, what do you think about voting for me/dieno? | ||
Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On November 25 2012 20:01 syllogism wrote: Prom: So you are saying you have a roleblock+track ability and an ability that roleblocks everyone who visits the person you target, is this correct? nope, the track thing was something I never claimed. I said I 'knew which way Sand was pointing when he was Rb'd' which is true because by targeting you I RB'd those who targeted you. I used that part of my ability as a 'watcher' like ability but it wasn't fool proof, I was bluffing Sand when I said that I 'knew' he targeted you. I guessed it based on my role and my reads. I have an ability which is planted on a single player which, if activated RBs everyone who visits that players. If it is not activated it will after [redacted number of cycle(s)] become a shield to block [ redacted number] of HP damage to the targeted player. | ||
Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 25 2012 20:13 Promethelax wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2012 20:01 syllogism wrote: Prom: So you are saying you have a roleblock+track ability and an ability that roleblocks everyone who visits the person you target, is this correct? nope, the track thing was something I never claimed. I said I 'knew which way Sand was pointing when he was Rb'd' which is true because by targeting you I RB'd those who targeted you. I used that part of my ability as a 'watcher' like ability but it wasn't fool proof, I was bluffing Sand when I said that I 'knew' he targeted you. I guessed it based on my role and my reads. I have an ability which is planted on a single player which, if activated RBs everyone who visits that players. If it is not activated it will after [redacted number of cycle(s)] become a shield to block [ redacted number] of HP damage to the targeted player. @Prom So how do you explain that syllo took some damage during the first cycle ? | ||
syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
I'm fairly certain that Prom is mafia and that his first claimed ability is real. The one he is claiming now is completely ridiculous as a town ability. It is so strong that even if it was a real ability, I don't see a town aligned player claiming it like that. Sandroba was headed for a lynch and we didn't need additional information to secure the lynch. Both of his abilities could be real, but the mass roleblock ability is extremely unlikely to be an ability of a town aligned role. I think bussing is the strongest ability Sandro had and it is very likely that it is the one he used (although frame bus is a bit ambigious). Prom targeted marv n1 with his rb+track or whatever ability. Right now I don't quite understand why he decided to change his claim, but I guess one possibility is to make marv look slightly suspicious/force him to claim and perhaps he thinks he gets more town cred like this. | ||
Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On November 25 2012 20:19 Djodref wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2012 20:13 Promethelax wrote: On November 25 2012 20:01 syllogism wrote: Prom: So you are saying you have a roleblock+track ability and an ability that roleblocks everyone who visits the person you target, is this correct? nope, the track thing was something I never claimed. I said I 'knew which way Sand was pointing when he was Rb'd' which is true because by targeting you I RB'd those who targeted you. I used that part of my ability as a 'watcher' like ability but it wasn't fool proof, I was bluffing Sand when I said that I 'knew' he targeted you. I guessed it based on my role and my reads. I have an ability which is planted on a single player which, if activated RBs everyone who visits that players. If it is not activated it will after [redacted number of cycle(s)] become a shield to block [ redacted number] of HP damage to the targeted player. @Prom So how do you explain that syllo took some damage during the first cycle ? I literally answered this two posts up... | ||
Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On November 25 2012 20:20 syllogism wrote: Yeah sure. I'm fairly certain that Prom is mafia and that his first claimed ability is real. The one he is claiming now is completely ridiculous as a town ability. It is so strong that even if it was a real ability, I don't see a town aligned player claiming it like that. Sandroba was headed for a lynch and we didn't need additional information to secure the lynch. Both of his abilities could be real, but the mass roleblock ability is extremely unlikely to be an ability of a town aligned role. I think bussing is the strongest ability Sandro had and it is very likely that it is the one he used (although frame bus is a bit ambigious). Prom targeted marv n1 with his rb+track or whatever ability. Right now I don't quite understand why he decided to change his claim, but I guess one possibility is to make marv look slightly suspicious/force him to claim and perhaps he thinks he gets more town cred like this. I haven't changed my claim. Go read my filter. Hell I'll do it for you. On November 24 2012 17:31 Promethelax wrote: snippy- I know who he was pointing at when he got blocked, okay? On November 25 2012 09:32 Promethelax wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2012 01:21 kitaman27 wrote: On November 24 2012 17:22 Promethelax wrote: Sandroba: please claim why you targeted Syllo with your ability last nigth This is a really important post. In any game I would host or any game that I can recall playing, a player who is roleblocked does not return any results to tracking abilities. As sandroba insists he targeted syllo, but was roleblocked, either one of these two players is lying or prom really needs to clarify his role. Show nested quote + On November 25 2012 03:54 marvellosity wrote: Although, kita, I will agree with you on this - Prome's absence is completely disgraceful given his earlier revelation and the fact that sandroba is the main wagon. That's pretty much completely unacceptable, whatever real life excuses he'll give us. okay, it seems that my role is pretty contentious for Kita and Kier (and probably everyone else who has a name that stars with K) the ability I used last night Roleblocks all players who target a single player with their actions. I took a gamble and assumed that I was the only one with a roleblocking ability because only two people claimed RB'd and I assumed that they both targeted Syllo. I did not want to reveal why I knew that those players targeted Syllo or the correlation with the roleblocks (this is why I haven't yet confronted marv about his targeting Syllo but now that the cat is out of the bag: Marv, what were you trying to do to the Great Leader?). I decided to gamble that i was right and that Sand had targeted Syllo (50% chance at least just from there being only two RB claims) and force him to claim what he had done. My bread crumb should be obvious to anyone looking but here it is: Show nested quote + On November 23 2012 05:40 Promethelax wrote: Hapa, you will not get my vote today. You come to late to change this election and I don't like that you push us away from Sand/Syllo but don't mention Kita except as a 'joke' I agree with you that we should not be voting Sand based on his unopposed candidacy and I didn't want to vote Syllo since he seemed intent on bringing Sand with him on the mission. I still prefer Syllo over Sand and will vote him if things get tight, as it is though I am more comfortable with Kita than either of them, his town reads are still strong to me even though he is not as townine in my mind as any of the three he chose to take with him. In my catching up I saw Kita post something asking why I was voting him if I didn't think he was the best leader. I thought I had made this clear, he was the best leader with a chance of success. If that wasn't clear my apologies, my intention was to communicate that Kita was the least of the evils which were available to me. I am sending in my night action(s) now. I will be in the thread for another hour. Syllo: I believe that it is now time for you to announce the members of your team and the reasons for their inclusion. You probably will win this election and I would like to hear your reasons for their inclusion in your team, you may not be able to give us those reads next day since you may be killed by scum/3party. I don't want to block up the thread with a lot of fluf but I think that your reasons would be a worthwhile inclusion that might protect townies from other townies at a later date. this is why I said that I was sending in my night actions there, to be clear that this is where I specified them. I'm saying that I am using my power to protect Syllo and that it will [role]block people who target him. It isn't a brilliant crumb but I think the awkward wording speaks for itself, this is a crumb. I have other powers but this is the one you need to know about. If I place this on a plyer and they are not targeted for a certain number of cycles than it will provide a certain amount of protection against damage from any in game source. That being said I would like to return to game things: Show nested quote + On November 25 2012 02:11 Clarity_nl wrote: Can someone other than marv confirm that Drazerk would be a coinflip at the point? I have not played with him but the games I have read of his would suggest that this is totally true. Marv is right here. Show nested quote + On November 25 2012 02:19 Hapahauli wrote: Hmmm I see everyone ignored the stuff I posted on Promethelax... anyone care to comment? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=382922¤tpage=112#2236 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=382922¤tpage=113#2241 Hapa: you ignored everything I said in response. I think you know better that my actions follow the way I think about the game which, as should be obvious, is not always the dominant way of thinking. Since you haven't responded to me I don't have more to add except that you are a top scum read for me now. I've never seen you, as town, push that someone is scum but also refuse to engage with them. You are more hands on. I expect this disengaged sort of attack from Zbo but not from you. hah, gotcha Sand. In post game I'm going to revel in getting that one right. Just in case anyone wasn't sure. On November 25 2012 09:48 Promethelax wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2012 09:46 CaveJohnson wrote: On November 25 2012 09:42 Promethelax wrote: On November 25 2012 09:37 marvellosity wrote: incidentally this is why I was fairly believing of kita earlier, because he claimed his shot on Drazerk only did half damage. Obviously these actions were nothing to do with me, but the 50% resonated with my role. interesting. So I am the only RBing role in the game. Or the only one activated n1. I assume some people have multiple abilities and not all would necessarily use the rb, where is the glory in that? Marv, if you are a 600 character why didn't you try harder to get in the team d1? Didn't you feel that since your ability got a bonus your hidden modifier would too? On November 25 2012 09:40 kitaman27 wrote: ^_^ I took 50 damage last night. I picked sandroba from my guessing game and avoided the damage. I'm also part of a fun new game, which I won't reveal yet -_- Considering Sandroba never returned, I think we should be looking for players that show signs of frustration towards his absence. On November 25 2012 09:36 marvellosity wrote: On November 25 2012 09:34 Promethelax wrote: hey Marv, baby, why did you target Syllo n1? + Show Spoiler + sorry about my play sensei, I will do better I'm basically a medic type role. I reduce incoming HP by half on the target player (or in 600 AD, 2 players). So Cave trolls it up to attract kp, syllo is bussed with cave, and syllo takes my hit, while cave gets protected. the roleblocks buddy, the roleblocks. Neither of those things went through. Draz: why are you thanking me for my ability? What did it do benefit you? If anyone was only targeting me surely they would of been roleblocked? or am I misunderstanding the role if anyone targets the player I used it on they are roleblocked. I didn't use it on you though. why do you think that I did? | ||
Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 25 2012 20:20 syllogism wrote: Yeah sure. I'm fairly certain that Prom is mafia and that his first claimed ability is real. The one he is claiming now is completely ridiculous as a town ability. It is so strong that even if it was a real ability, I don't see a town aligned player claiming it like that. Sandroba was headed for a lynch and we didn't need additional information to secure the lynch. Both of his abilities could be real, but the mass roleblock ability is extremely unlikely to be an ability of a town aligned role. I think bussing is the strongest ability Sandro had and it is very likely that it is the one he used (although frame bus is a bit ambigious). Prom targeted marv n1 with his rb+track or whatever ability. Right now I don't quite understand why he decided to change his claim, but I guess one possibility is to make marv look slightly suspicious/force him to claim and perhaps he thinks he gets more town cred like this. Isn't the ability he describes basically a jailkeeper ability? | ||
Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On November 25 2012 20:28 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2012 20:20 syllogism wrote: Yeah sure. I'm fairly certain that Prom is mafia and that his first claimed ability is real. The one he is claiming now is completely ridiculous as a town ability. It is so strong that even if it was a real ability, I don't see a town aligned player claiming it like that. Sandroba was headed for a lynch and we didn't need additional information to secure the lynch. Both of his abilities could be real, but the mass roleblock ability is extremely unlikely to be an ability of a town aligned role. I think bussing is the strongest ability Sandro had and it is very likely that it is the one he used (although frame bus is a bit ambigious). Prom targeted marv n1 with his rb+track or whatever ability. Right now I don't quite understand why he decided to change his claim, but I guess one possibility is to make marv look slightly suspicious/force him to claim and perhaps he thinks he gets more town cred like this. Isn't the ability he describes basically a jailkeeper ability? I've thought about it that way but that isn't entirely true. Instead if rb'ing the guy I target I rb the people who target him. | ||
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