Whose Line Is It Anyway? Mafia! - Page 2

On November 01 2012 04:44 Blazinghand wrote:
I've been back and posting. Gonzaw. Basically, Adam typically opens up with big paragraphs and direct Q/A (see any of his games for examples of this). However, in games like TL Mafia LI when he rolls scum, he also opens up with big pieces of analysis, and more importantly, he hides behind questioning other players. In NMM III, he jumps in (as a replacement, admittedly), with accusations and direct confrontation against SS.

On November 01 2012 06:08 Mementoss wrote:


Going to gym, fuck the rules. Only got 5 minutes but would like to comment on a few things.

The above is your case against Adam right? I don't consider it the strongest case, as you above seem pretty confident in it, but the fact that he hasn't been back to contribute is pretty un easing. leaning scummy on him right now.

I half agree to what you say about crossfire too blazinghand. His posts were unreadable thats for sure. I had to re-read several paragraphs 3 times before I even understood what the point was, and then it didn't even deliverable the point well -_-. This is more likely xfire posting as town because he was being ridiculous, but I also think there is a possibility he started posting these long unreadable fluffy statements, so that maybe someone else would follow his ridiculous posting style and muck up the town completely. Thats scum intereference. Also, he actually looks to the non-reader, that he is contributing more than most, when really, hes more interested in literary skills and looking town, than actually finding scum.

ATM I would be happy to vote either Xfire or BKE, (which I stated earlier why I thought his fake joke stuff seemed scummy, while his purposely?? getting restrictions wasn't liekly scummy), could go for Adam too, but I would rather wait for him to come into the thread again before doing that.

Gunna lay down a vote Xfire atm. Need to re-read the thread and consider all the options, I have been either asleep or at work for this whole thread thus far.

##Vote Crossfire

On November 01 2012 08:00 Mementoss wrote:

-obviously didnt read all of my post, and a pretty defensive reaction over 2 votes this early imo

On November 01 2012 06:08 Mementoss wrote:
I half agree to what you say about crossfire too blazinghand. His posts were unreadable thats for sure. I had to re-read several paragraphs 3 times before I even understood what the point was, and then it didn't even deliverable the point well -_-.

This is more likely xfire posting as town because he was being ridiculous,

but I also think there is a possibility he started posting these long unreadable fluffy statements, so that maybe someone else would follow his ridiculous posting style and muck up the town completely. Thats scum intereference. Also, he actually looks to the non-reader, that he is contributing more than most, when really, hes more interested in literary skills and looking town, than actually finding scum.

Gunna lay down a vote Xfire atm. Need to re-read the thread and consider all the options, I have been either asleep or at work for this whole thread thus far.

##Vote Crossfire

On November 01 2012 08:00 Mementoss wrote:
U BH, I said, I can see where your coming from how it seems townie, but I was ultimately voting him because I could also see where he could be doing it as scum - looking like contributing, - acknoledges moost of it was fluff when called out, -but why post fluff pirposely if you are town - as I said in my post, I need to re-read the thread and it isn't a strong scum read by any means - if your looking for people not reading the thread, look no further -

-obviously didnt read all of my post, and a pretty defensive reaction over 2 votes this early imo

On November 01 2012 12:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
Lol, I'll take a timeout too I guess

On November 02 2012 07:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
For tomorrow's minigame, I suggest "Race to lynch Crossfire!". Game involves voting ASAP and then afk'ing until the lynch. Have a great time guys, and remember, the points don't matter.

On November 02 2012 22:12 strongandbig wrote:
another topic for discussion tonight: what the fuck do we do with Chezinu? He totally ignored both the serious and silly questions in my post to him, I'm really not sure what to do to get him more involved in the game so we can actually maybe try to get a read on him

On November 05 2012 01:46 strongandbig wrote:
Now, some of my own thoughts:

- I was reading through Crossfire's filter to think about asking him a question, but I found some stuff in there that I very much don't like.

For one thing, there's the overall fluffiness or what people have been calling his "poetry" - I think it was perfectly possible to play within the minigame restriction while still making total sense and expressing ideas in a clear and concise manner.


I don't like this comment. Why should you be worried about staying in your "meta" - for one thing, you have like 200 posts, so how much meta can there be? For another thing I would expect anyone doing a meta read to take into account the unique circumstances of this game. It's weird that you call attention to and excuse a difference from an imagined "meta".

Then from earlier in his filter there's

- more being all like "guys i'ma post so much!" - but his filter is really not very long. (You know what else of his isn't very long?) Like, there was no need to draw everyone's attention to the fact that he was posting a lot unless he's worried that people would accuse him of not posting enough.

then later on there's this:

This is a really weird thing to do. In the exact same breath, tell someone their plan is bad, and also go along with it.
That said, this may well have been an optimal scum response to Chezinu's plan - we all agreed that scum would have to claim VT, but by doing it early he fits in and his claim gets cred if people follow Chezinu's plan, while simultaneously he comes out against it so he's on the right side of popular opinion if everyone else says "wtf chezinu your plan is scummy and terrible". (scummy and terrible - just like "the game" right?) (+ Show Spoiler +)

Finally, there's one less significant thing that I still want to call attention to. (well, less significant than the rest of my case. Still more significant than crossfire's success with the opposite gender.)




The interesting thing here is that in the first post, he "proposed" the idea that in the future he might play without reading his role PM (which, by the way, is a really weird thing to write a post about in the first place - more fluff, I guess?) but then after I yell at him about it, he claims that he just checked his role PM for the first time. I don't believe for a second that he actually played that far into the game without checking his role PM, but why would he phrase his response to me like that? I think it's because he was trying to be super-conciliatory after I yelled at him; he probably guessed that saying "okay I checked it" was the most direct way to get me off his back, when he should have said "I didn't try that this game, in the future I will not play like that."

Again, this last point is less significant, but it is a discrepancy and I think there is a scum motivation for it.

The main counterpoint to this case, that I can see, is (if Mementoss flips scum) the fact that crossfire voted for Mementoss yesterday. However, I'm not convinced that means very much. Don't forget, Gonzaw made sure that Mementoss wouldn't be lynched yesterday with his weird voting behavior. I could totally see a scum team tripping itself up like that if two of the players voted early (or committed early to voting, in Gonzaw's case) for their teammate, and then had to backpedal furiously when it turned out that he might actually get lynched. Anyway, this is only relevant if Mementoss flips scum.