On October 11 2012 12:26 BroodKingEXE wrote: Not until PSATs are over
I scored super high on my PSATS national merit finalist and SATs. now i live at home with my parents and make 9.50 an hour.
so really how well you do on your sats and what college you go to doesn't matter at all
I scored high enough to get to national merit semi finalist but I didn't make finalist because I slacked off on my grades. Even then I still had enough brownie points to get accepted into a good college but once again I took the lazy route and finished my first two semesters with a .27 gpa. So yes, doing good on psat/sat does help you get into a good school, and getting into a good school does help you. What hurts you is being lazy and not doing your work which is something that people unfortunately don't learn until it's too late.
still reading through but first gotta say that i don't understand/am frustrated by the wbg lynch talk. i think that either way palmar is just being dumb cuz he wants to be and i don't like basing my reads on 'discussion points' like that
On January 03 2013 08:40 yamato77 wrote: Outspoken player =/= scum. Palmar is overly active and has good reasons for the policy lynch.
Marv you know better so you starting this Palmar is scum stuff is fishy.
what good reasons
I agree that Bugs can get in the way of scumhunt when he is town and when scum is possibly highly difficult to catch.
Basically the definition of a policy lynch. Complete coin flip.
I'm not saying lynch Bugs but I can see where Palmar is coming from.
I don't see where a town palmar could *seriously* be coming from. I can see where he'd be coming from if the purpose is to start discussion but the idea that he could have a legitimate reason to policy lynch someone like wbg is crazy. yamato you are saying palmar's 'policy vote' makes palmar more likely to be town?
On January 03 2013 09:37 yamato77 wrote: If your town meta is being a dick to other townies then you should rethink how you play this game.
Hopeless has been a zero presence poster. His only contribution is to tell other people that they are wasting time. He is worthy of my suspicion.
the bolded part reads as "I'm having to fake my scumreads"
On January 03 2013 08:27 kushm4sta wrote: @iamp I didn't run away im lurking.
do you feel like commenting on anything or do you plan on being useless?
no to both
##Vote: kushm4sta
This guy...
let me give you some insight into kush.
he says retarded things all the time regardless of alignment (regardless of being in game or not really). Change your mind at all?
The game just started, and I'm perfectly okay with swapping my vote later on.
......and acts similarly with his tunkeg vote.
On January 03 2013 07:04 Lazermonkey wrote: So, anyone feel like policy lynching grush just for the lulz? He is going to troll the game 24/7 no matter what alignment he gets...
That's absolutely wrong. Lazer go read town grush's filter in hero and let me know if you are willing to stand by that statement.
LM also wants to kill kush because of meta reasons and I disagree with that. scum kush may be a little tricky to pick out but I think town kush is easily identifiable.
Other than pushing policy lynches on players who aren't that hard to read when they're town, Lm hasn't been scumhunting. The closest he's come to scumhunting was his omgus fight with tunkeg and his last stance on that issue was wishy washy (a vote, that, self admittedly will change)
On January 03 2013 16:43 thrawn2112 wrote: uh... how
if I'm easy to identify as town, then it follows that I would be just as easy to identify as scum
no.... the last few games where you;ve been town i've thought it was pretty obvious. in witchcraft i initially thought you were scum based off your opening posts but was less sure of that read
On January 03 2013 16:43 thrawn2112 wrote: uh... how
if I'm easy to identify as town, then it follows that I would be just as easy to identify as scum
no.... the last few games where you;ve been town i've thought it was pretty obvious. in witchcraft i initially thought you were scum based off your opening posts but was less sure of that read
Are you a dt?
hmm lets keep everything on a need to know basis
surely those who follow the path of the brown can appreciate that sentiment?
On January 04 2013 00:01 Vivax wrote: I actually think I am doing a decent job. My only problem is that I need to continue the list and then make proper reads from it. But I am busy doing stoichiometry exercises before lessons begin again, I'll obey and post them too if Palmar orders.
I'd be quite content to kill tube. I'm not sure about this Bugs thing, I don't have that prejudice against him.
there's not really a 'bugs thing.' it's a silly policy lynch and you're either for it or against it.... not really that much to discuss or think about. You saying that you're "not sure" about it implies that you might be willing to go along with it. So are you for or against it?
both scum - least likely option. too much risk, etc etc. this option is so dumb i'm removing it as a possibility iamp scum - palmar town - same stuff that's been said, sending out a scum iamp to try and trick a town palmar is not something anyone here would try
that only leaves both town, or iamp town and palmar scum. from the start of the game i've been hoping that palmar will drop his act and do some stuff to make me think think he;s toiwn. idc about the delay between when he was asked for logs and when he produced them because I don't think that both of them can possibly be scum.
so iamp town, palmar scum or town?
I think palmar's town.
1 started off playing in a way that's likely to get him lynched 2 trolling wasn't as disruptive as people are implying 3 if i assume iamp is town and read the mason logs as if i'm iamp, makes me think palmar is town
On January 04 2013 23:30 froggynoddy wrote: Oh and I refuse to see the logs as having any bearing on alignent on either iamp or Palmar.
The fact that:
1. Iamp conveniently didnt have the logs with him 2. Hours later Palmar refused to show the logs claiming (perhaps rightfully) that this this would not help town... I think this is true Day 1 as his reads, though convincing, are still based on just one days activity and noobs like me will feel strongly motivated to work on his assumptions rather than think for themselves. 3. Palmar finally gives up, even though he wasnt hugely at risk of a lynch.
This, truly, is some more narrative construction and I am not saying that the logs were necessarily faked, just that I would rather base any judgment on his thread activity which honestly... baffles me so I cant really say one way or another.
why would scum masons claim mason and not reveal logs till much later?
why would town masons claim mason and not reveal logs till much later?
palmar has a good case on marv and i want to sheep it but bleh... lots of stuff in that case could be said about amlmost everyone in the thread and i kinda want to attribute marv's laziness to the general laziness of the thread and keep him around longer
On January 03 2013 07:04 Lazermonkey wrote: So, anyone feel like policy lynching grush just for the lulz? He is going to troll the game 24/7 no matter what alignment he gets...
That's absolutely wrong. Lazer go read town grush's filter in hero and let me know if you are willing to stand by that statement.
LM also wants to kill kush because of meta reasons and I disagree with that. scum kush may be a little tricky to pick out but I think town kush is easily identifiable.
Other than pushing policy lynches on players who aren't that hard to read when they're town, Lm hasn't been scumhunting. The closest he's come to scumhunting was his omgus fight with tunkeg and his last stance on that issue was wishy washy (a vote, that, self admittedly will change)
On January 03 2013 17:59 Lazermonkey wrote: I read through the thread quickly once and I must say hopeless looks bad. He has a scum read on Palmar, tho not willing to9 lynch him. And like Toad pointed out earlier, the way he is reacting to post just doesn't make alot of sense to me. In a bad way.
"hopeless looks bad" is not what you say when you're town and think someone is scum, it's what a scum would think to themselves when trying to decide who they want to mislynch. same type of phrasing is used a couple sentences later with "doesn't make a lot of sense to me. In a bad way." It like he's giving us the entire translation process between picking on something to attack and spinning it to make it look like a real accusation.
I don't like the entire interaction between lm/tunkeg. LM starts by aggressively going after tunkeg (who I know has a good chance of being mislynched if town) but at the end of his attack qualifies his vote as "subject to change." Aren't all votes subject to change? Why does LM need to tell us this? In his very next post after the vote he says "Will also do a quick meta check on tunkeg to see if he always plays like this. I may consider swapping my vote then." Again, why say this? Why not just do the meta research and let the thread know about your conclusions when you reach them? Looks like he's setting himself up to unvote tunkeg before he even does his "research." Then he explains why tunkeg's meta this game is similar to his play in hero, and unvotes him. I wouldn't expect someone who is so aggressively attacking another player to be staved off by 1 game's worth of meta research.
-Starts off by being open to dumb policy lynches (grush and kush) -has an omgus fight with tunkeg which he quickly backs down on because of meta -switched to hopeless after tunkeg, then was open to lynching palmar before all the log stuff happened. there's this quote where he once again begins laying the groundwork for how he going to change his reads before he changes them:
On January 04 2013 19:36 yamato77 wrote: What does he gain from showing the logs? I think him playing the game for real is proof enough. I can get a good read from his opinions on people, I believe.
What opinions...?
Mainly his scum read on Marv. That should be a good one.
He keeps calling me town, which is correct, so he's either playing like smart Palmar from last game or he's buddying me and hoping I sheep him like I did last game.
Well, if he mananges to pull out a good case vs Marv I'm willing not to lynch him.
- tunkeg/hopeless/palmar/marv... those are a mix of extremely bandwagony lynches and potential easy mislynches
On January 04 2013 08:18 iamperfection wrote: you should join the wagon of justice as well debars
Can we please keep CC around til at least day 2? I love the kid. He's so funny
Nope. All serious biz this game. Lynch me Dibbers c'mon.
hey you haven't tried to hunt scum at all.
What have you to say to this accusation?
It's not an accusation - it's truth. Truth for half the players too.
Don't worry I'll be cooking up something later tonight after work.
don;t remember who it was but somebody pointed out the difference between scum cc and town cc, scum cc posts are much better quality. in witchcraft i thought cc was 100% scum because of how trollish/annoying/illogical his posts were and he ended up flipping town.
if the point of lynching cc is to lynch a lurker i'd prefer selecting from people with lower content
On January 05 2013 00:41 thrawn2112 wrote: well i don't want to lynch either you or palmar
How do you feel about cc's promised, yet undelivered, reads
On January 04 2013 08:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:23 iamperfection wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:20 debears wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:18 iamperfection wrote: you should join the wagon of justice as well debars
Can we please keep CC around til at least day 2? I love the kid. He's so funny
Nope. All serious biz this game. Lynch me Dibbers c'mon.
hey you haven't tried to hunt scum at all.
What have you to say to this accusation?
It's not an accusation - it's truth. Truth for half the players too.
Don't worry I'll be cooking up something later tonight after work.
don;t remember who it was but somebody pointed out the difference between scum cc and town cc, scum cc posts are much better quality. in witchcraft i thought cc was 100% scum because of how trollish/annoying/illogical his posts were and he ended up flipping town.
if the point of lynching cc is to lynch a lurker i'd prefer selecting from people with lower content
uhh, unless there was more, I remember it was kush, and thinking 'godamnit' to myself:
On January 04 2013 13:46 kushm4sta wrote: town cheesecake seems more trolly. "Cool story" etc scum cheesecake makes cleaner posts. So for meta reasons with 2 games experience.
I want to know why you said that town kush is easily identifiable in your post about LM. Do you think he is town in this game?How is he easily identifiable as town when he isn't as scum?
already been over this
when kush is town, it's way more obvious that he's town than it's obvious that he's scum when he's scum. especially lately, i think i'm very good about picking out town kush. that's why i dont like a kush policy lynch, cuz town kush isn't that hard to read. i don't really have much of a read on kush yet this game but i think when there are fewer players he'll be way easier to identify
why is this something you have issue with? not relevant to the thread at all imo
i think it's dumb to lynch marv or palmar on d1 based on accusations of not playing up to their normal town standard when that's true with most people's play so far.
does anyone on marv bandwagon want to lynch lazermonkey or
bonus question: say hypothetically (or not?) you and debears are scum. which of your other scumbuds do you two disagree with the most over what lynches to push?
On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote: [quote]Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely.
Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1. Your reasoning is bad.
I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing.
You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today,
Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense.
Clarity wtf is wrong with you? So how do you KNOW that Marv is bussing?
HOW DO YOU EVEN FUCKCCKCCKCKCKCKC
You say it's unlikely for both to be scum, I ask you why it's unlikely for a scum marv to bus a scum MZ. It's called a hypothetical, this isn't hard
In my personal experience, and I am sure you also feel this way, scum is more inclined to push townies than scum.
This is not true. I don't think it's true for marv because he has to deliver, regardless of his alignment, and it's definitively not true for kush. I also like to bus by the way
If this is true than I will reconsider. But the question is: is it true?
I have to look it up for marv. I've heard somewhere sometime that he had been bussing almost his whole scumteam in one game. But it's definitively true for kush, and it's also true for me. That's why I really don't think kush is scum in this game by the ay.
how does this make sense? you don't think kush is scum because he's not bussing this game? how would you know if he's bussing o.0
On January 05 2013 22:30 marvellosity wrote: I'm done with this game. I have requested a replacement, or I will be modkilled.
you already did it? bye. stop talking them please.
kush is this your new scum meta? could you possibly be more anti-town? i'm not sensing the "fake rage" that comes along with scum kush but it seems like you are being intentionally uncooperative/unreadable
you've done almost 0 independent scumhunting this game, the closest to scumhunting you've reached is your game long tunnel on marv. and most of that wasn't any type of scumhunting, it was either mindless sheeping or calling him scum over and over
On January 05 2013 22:22 Lazermonkey wrote: [quote]I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing.
You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today,
Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense.
Clarity wtf is wrong with you? So how do you KNOW that Marv is bussing?
HOW DO YOU EVEN FUCKCCKCCKCKCKCKC
You say it's unlikely for both to be scum, I ask you why it's unlikely for a scum marv to bus a scum MZ. It's called a hypothetical, this isn't hard
In my personal experience, and I am sure you also feel this way, scum is more inclined to push townies than scum.
This is not true. I don't think it's true for marv because he has to deliver, regardless of his alignment, and it's definitively not true for kush. I also like to bus by the way
If this is true than I will reconsider. But the question is: is it true?
I have to look it up for marv. I've heard somewhere sometime that he had been bussing almost his whole scumteam in one game. But it's definitively true for kush, and it's also true for me. That's why I really don't think kush is scum in this game by the ay.
how does this make sense? you don't think kush is scum because he's not bussing this game? how would you know if he's bussing o.0
Because he would post better cases. Because he would know what to look for. As scum, he would also defend townies. Because this guy loves being right above all. That's the real meta read on scum kush.
there'd be no need for a scum kush to act like normal scum kush in this specific game. he's gone by almost unnoticed by saying marv is scum over and over
On January 05 2013 23:03 kushm4sta wrote: @thrawn I'm not going to have a conversation with you so don't ask me a dumb question like is this my new scum meta. just say if you think I'm scum and be done with it.
that post perfectly matches my above description of your play:
On January 05 2013 22:30 marvellosity wrote: I'm done with this game. I have requested a replacement, or I will be modkilled.
you already did it? bye. stop talking them please.
kush is this your new scum meta? could you possibly be more anti-town? i'm not sensing the "fake rage" that comes along with scum kush but it seems like you are being intentionally uncooperative/unreadable
so again, why so anti town? will you have a conversation with me if i call you scum?
On January 05 2013 23:19 Clarity_nl wrote: I think the case itself isn't bad, but I don't believe hopeless is scum right now. Policy talk is kind of his thing, as either alignment. Hopeless has this nasty habit as town to not scumhunt, sometimes. Him switching votes like 4x close to deadline makes me think he's town.
Well, I disagree but OK.
i agree with clarity. in looney lynching he sat in the shadows as town except for whenever he got called out. then as he was no longer in danger of being lynched he went back to lazy mode
I understand your concerns, but it goes all down to a time-constraint problem from my side ^^
1)My activity is bigger in all my other games, regardless of my alignment. I was scum in Witchcraft, Mario Mini and Looney Mini and I've been pretty active as scum in these games. Here I was in the plane coming back to Korea when the game started, and I had a lot of work to do because they didn't wait for me when I was on vacation back in France. I was also jet-lagged and super tired. Like, it's 5am here, and I'm fucking awake... And I'm not usually very active on week-ends ")
2)Yeah, you cannot read Also I didn't have so much time to take a decision at that time
3)I didn't have time to push him, I was reading the thread again to see if I didn't miss anything important. I woke up in the middle of the night to follow the game, I remind you
4)Again, lack of time from my part
djo does lack of time prevent you from forming scumreads?
With his first post he comes in with a bunch of reasonable sounding fluff about all the policy lynches he doesn't agree with. He is ok with a lurker lynch, but there is nobody he thinks is scum. His next post was a defense of tunkeg... still djo doesn't have a scumread. His thrid post comes during he marv wagon, and he disagrees with the marv lynch,and lynches bc because bc is the counterwagon. (and now we know bc is town) He does not have any scumreads for all of d1 and ends up parking his vote on a townie to save another townie....
Here is what djo has to say about bc when he votes:
On January 05 2013 06:31 Djodref wrote: I don't think marv is a good lynch for today. Him pushing Palmar was legit, from a town point of view, because Palmar started to look town quite late. Also I think it's not fair to judge him in comparison with his performance in Rockband Mini Mafia. Also I don't disagree with much he has been saying and him being suspicious of Clarity at some point is not alignment indicative, because Clarity is not playing his usual town game (even if I'm buying his excuse as being sick for the moment).
I don't think the chances for him to be mafia are high enough to justify a lynch on him, and it would be a shame to mislynch him if he is town.
So I'm going to support the counter-bandwagon, and on top of that I think that BC lynch is a good lynch in itself + Show Spoiler +
On January 05 2013 02:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I dont have a ton of time right now and given that most of it was spent catching up on the thread all I can say is what the fuck?
Palmar is off the hook given how rampant his bullshit was all day because he posted some logs and a list of reads that all looks seems hastily put together and shit. He then makes his only case of the game against a player his own notes say specifically he would like to hold off on pursuing then suddenly his outlook changes while marv does the same shit palmar has been doing except Marv was more useful through the entire day.
People need to realize that Palmar only contributed because he was harassed into doing so and has done the bare minimum since. Seriously people Marv may not have scum hunted but he was actively harassing people or pushing people to generate discussion.
##vote palmar
I honestly dont get you people and the next person to suggest lynching me on inactivity should go back and read the first thing I said in this game after signing up
I really don't like this post from BC, as in 'I don't like this post because it serves mafia interest'. First of all, Palmar is not going to get lynched today. Moreover, Palmar stopped trolling and was actually working on this game while masoning with Iamp. Also him pushing his marv's lynch like this makes him town in my eyes, and I think that BC should be able to see this as well. Secondly, regardless of marv alignment, I see scum motivation for this post. Defending marv and discrediting Palmar if marv is scum is good, but doing it when both of them are town is even better, because you are setting things up for lynching Palmar after marv. His post also allows him to avoid contributing by spending time in a useless tunnel.
##Vote BC
and that's the entirety of he scumhuning djo did on day 1, up until he justifies his vote for BC (a townie)
Continuation of D1's non scumhunting
After D1 djo talks about a lot of random stuff and gets into random conversations, non of them related to scumhunting. It starts with this post and ends right before this one:
On January 05 2013 23:37 Djodref wrote: I could lynch among Hopeless, Sentinel and MZ tomorrow. I have yet to see them do proper scumhunting. I don't think they are all scum though. I'll see how they react to the pressure. What I really like in Clarity's case against Sentinel is how Sentinel is promising to read the thread, without delivering.
On January 05 2013 00:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: As hard as I try, I have no idea what the hell we're talking about anymore.
Ima go read Adam's filter because for some reason he has been flying under my radar. Then I will have to go back to class because astronomy is my only free period
For example, this was totally unnecessary. And reading Adam's filter takes like less than 5 minutes, so he could have given us his insight instead of saying this.
On January 05 2013 20:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Agreed. I'm sitting the night out.
I don't think Sentinel should feel any fear of being killed tonight. It's again another indirect way to hint that he is town, when he doesn't really need to.
That's 13 posts where he isn't scumhunting, just 'participating' in the thread. And in that post where he finally calls people out as people he'd want to lynch, 2 of them (hopeless and mz) dont show up anywhere else in his filter so far. The obvious trend here is that djo hasn't been doing any scumhunting but will randomly have person(s) he wants to lynch who he's said nothing about so far.
Everything Else
Everything after the post where he calls out sentinel, mz, and hopeless is a lot like the rest of his filter. He'll get into conversations but never seems to be scumhunting or pressing reads. A lot of the time he's just arguing and giving people town reads. I also think this could be a scumslip:
On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote: [quote]Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely.
Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1. Your reasoning is bad.
I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing.
You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today,
Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense.
Clarity wtf is wrong with you? So how do you KNOW that Marv is bussing?
HOW DO YOU EVEN FUCKCCKCCKCKCKCKC
You say it's unlikely for both to be scum, I ask you why it's unlikely for a scum marv to bus a scum MZ. It's called a hypothetical, this isn't hard
In my personal experience, and I am sure you also feel this way, scum is more inclined to push townies than scum.
This is not true. I don't think it's true for marv because he has to deliver, regardless of his alignment, and it's definitively not true for kush. I also like to bus by the way
If this is true than I will reconsider. But the question is: is it true?
I have to look it up for marv. I've heard somewhere sometime that he had been bussing almost his whole scumteam in one game. But it's definitively true for kush, and it's also true for me. That's why I really don't think kush is scum in this game by the ay.
He says he doesn't think kush is scum, because kush would be bussing.... how does he know kush isn't bussing?
On January 07 2013 05:43 thrawn2112 wrote: kush you still lurking?how is your internet weed?
what are your scumreads now that marv is gone?
@ thrawn
All your case can be addressed because of lack of time from my part. You know well my scum meta because you were town in both Looney Game and Witchcraft. I also hope that you have followed Mario Mini. I'm active as both alignment. But let me address your points, just give me some time, ok ?
the issue isn;t really your post count, it's that you've got low post count + no scuhunting
your current scumread is mz correct? what do you make of his claim? and do you have an alternate scumread with reasons behind it, not just a lurker lynch you are ok with?
also i don't think Lm's scum anymore. there's been too many times where his thoughts have been similar to mine concerning important events in the thread
On January 07 2013 06:34 Foolishness wrote: Unless someone can write a very convincing post (must be more than 2 paragraphs) we are lynching Cheescake tomorrow.
could you give a more than 2 paragraph post on why we should lynch him tomorrow with such certainty? i think he's an ok lynch but nowhere near as good as some other people who have more in their filter to judge them off of
Regarding my 'scumslip', I know that kush isn't bussing because he changed his mind about Cheesecake at some point (or some other player, I don't remember exactly). Also he didn't give any reason for why marv was scum, even a small quote or anything like that. Even if at the time we didn't know marv's alignment, I know that kush uses his extra-knowledge as scum. He wouldn't drop a read because he would be right about CC from the beginning. He would give a small indication why marv would have been scum as well. Just like in WitchCraft when he was nit-picking my post to show the juicy part to you.
but cc hasn;t flipped yet, you are saying cc is town?
say some more stuff about kush changing his mind on whatever player you're talking about
Regarding my 'scumslip', I know that kush isn't bussing because he changed his mind about Cheesecake at some point (or some other player, I don't remember exactly). Also he didn't give any reason for why marv was scum, even a small quote or anything like that. Even if at the time we didn't know marv's alignment, I know that kush uses his extra-knowledge as scum. He wouldn't drop a read because he would be right about CC from the beginning. He would give a small indication why marv would have been scum as well. Just like in WitchCraft when he was nit-picking my post to show the juicy part to you.
but cc hasn;t flipped yet, you are saying cc is town?
say some more stuff about kush changing his mind on whatever player you're talking about
Alright, so iamp actually referenced MZ in reply to Hiros' statement that "he" doesn't seem to be reading the thread. It's actually not evident at all who "He" is, in this part of the thread it's like impossible to know if the people talking are actually understanding each other.
And yet, debears was immediately satisfied with iamps' answer, even though to me it looks that iamp himself misunderstood who they were talking about. And that gives me reason to believe that debears wasn't interested in pursuing iamp in the first place, he was interested in making pseudo-cases.
On January 08 2013 08:20 debears wrote: Scum marv busses all the time, or at least prepares for it WBG I was leaning town Look it up. They brought up how "it doesn't indicate him being scum because you can't show us how his meta his scum oriented" I rephrased what I meant multiple times, and they shut it down multiple times
1) His indifference to taking the helm in this game. His activity is much greater in his town games. 2) His weak reasoning for voting BC. He hides it among all the other stuff in this post, and says that the quoted post "serves mafia interest" without explaining
On January 05 2013 06:31 Djodref wrote: I don't think marv is a good lynch for today. Him pushing Palmar was legit, from a town point of view, because Palmar started to look town quite late. Also I think it's not fair to judge him in comparison with his performance in Rockband Mini Mafia. Also I don't disagree with much he has been saying and him being suspicious of Clarity at some point is not alignment indicative, because Clarity is not playing his usual town game (even if I'm buying his excuse as being sick for the moment).
I don't think the chances for him to be mafia are high enough to justify a lynch on him, and it would be a shame to mislynch him if he is town.
So I'm going to support the counter-bandwagon, and on top of that I think that BC lynch is a good lynch in itself + Show Spoiler +
On January 05 2013 02:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I dont have a ton of time right now and given that most of it was spent catching up on the thread all I can say is what the fuck?
Palmar is off the hook given how rampant his bullshit was all day because he posted some logs and a list of reads that all looks seems hastily put together and shit. He then makes his only case of the game against a player his own notes say specifically he would like to hold off on pursuing then suddenly his outlook changes while marv does the same shit palmar has been doing except Marv was more useful through the entire day.
People need to realize that Palmar only contributed because he was harassed into doing so and has done the bare minimum since. Seriously people Marv may not have scum hunted but he was actively harassing people or pushing people to generate discussion.
##vote palmar
I honestly dont get you people and the next person to suggest lynching me on inactivity should go back and read the first thing I said in this game after signing up
I really don't like this post from BC, as in 'I don't like this post because it serves mafia interest'. First of all, Palmar is not going to get lynched today. Moreover, Palmar stopped trolling and was actually working on this game while masoning with Iamp. Also him pushing his marv's lynch like this makes him town in my eyes, and I think that BC should be able to see this as well. Secondly, regardless of marv alignment, I see scum motivation for this post. Defending marv and discrediting Palmar if marv is scum is good, but doing it when both of them are town is even better, because you are setting things up for lynching Palmar after marv. His post also allows him to avoid contributing by spending time in a useless tunnel.
##Vote BC
3) He never pushes BC after that 4) He brings up others, yet no real reasoning
On January 05 2013 23:37 Djodref wrote: I could lynch among Hopeless, Sentinel and MZ tomorrow. I have yet to see them do proper scumhunting. I don't think they are all scum though. I'll see how they react to the pressure. What I really like in Clarity's case against Sentinel is how Sentinel is promising to read the thread, without delivering.
On January 05 2013 00:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: As hard as I try, I have no idea what the hell we're talking about anymore.
Ima go read Adam's filter because for some reason he has been flying under my radar. Then I will have to go back to class because astronomy is my only free period
For example, this was totally unnecessary. And reading Adam's filter takes like less than 5 minutes, so he could have given us his insight instead of saying this.
On January 05 2013 20:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Agreed. I'm sitting the night out.
I don't think Sentinel should feel any fear of being killed tonight. It's again another indirect way to hint that he is town, when he doesn't really need to.
With his first post he comes in with a bunch of reasonable sounding fluff about all the policy lynches he doesn't agree with. He is ok with a lurker lynch, but there is nobody he thinks is scum. His next post was a defense of tunkeg... still djo doesn't have a scumread. His thrid post comes during he marv wagon, and he disagrees with the marv lynch,and lynches bc because bc is the counterwagon. (and now we know bc is town) He does not have any scumreads for all of d1 and ends up parking his vote on a townie to save another townie....
Here is what djo has to say about bc when he votes:
On January 05 2013 06:31 Djodref wrote: I don't think marv is a good lynch for today. Him pushing Palmar was legit, from a town point of view, because Palmar started to look town quite late. Also I think it's not fair to judge him in comparison with his performance in Rockband Mini Mafia. Also I don't disagree with much he has been saying and him being suspicious of Clarity at some point is not alignment indicative, because Clarity is not playing his usual town game (even if I'm buying his excuse as being sick for the moment).
I don't think the chances for him to be mafia are high enough to justify a lynch on him, and it would be a shame to mislynch him if he is town.
So I'm going to support the counter-bandwagon, and on top of that I think that BC lynch is a good lynch in itself + Show Spoiler +
On January 05 2013 02:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I dont have a ton of time right now and given that most of it was spent catching up on the thread all I can say is what the fuck?
Palmar is off the hook given how rampant his bullshit was all day because he posted some logs and a list of reads that all looks seems hastily put together and shit. He then makes his only case of the game against a player his own notes say specifically he would like to hold off on pursuing then suddenly his outlook changes while marv does the same shit palmar has been doing except Marv was more useful through the entire day.
People need to realize that Palmar only contributed because he was harassed into doing so and has done the bare minimum since. Seriously people Marv may not have scum hunted but he was actively harassing people or pushing people to generate discussion.
##vote palmar
I honestly dont get you people and the next person to suggest lynching me on inactivity should go back and read the first thing I said in this game after signing up
I really don't like this post from BC, as in 'I don't like this post because it serves mafia interest'. First of all, Palmar is not going to get lynched today. Moreover, Palmar stopped trolling and was actually working on this game while masoning with Iamp. Also him pushing his marv's lynch like this makes him town in my eyes, and I think that BC should be able to see this as well. Secondly, regardless of marv alignment, I see scum motivation for this post. Defending marv and discrediting Palmar if marv is scum is good, but doing it when both of them are town is even better, because you are setting things up for lynching Palmar after marv. His post also allows him to avoid contributing by spending time in a useless tunnel.
##Vote BC
and that's the entirety of he scumhuning djo did on day 1, up until he justifies his vote for BC (a townie)
Continuation of D1's non scumhunting
After D1 djo talks about a lot of random stuff and gets into random conversations, non of them related to scumhunting. It starts with this post and ends right before this one:
On January 05 2013 23:37 Djodref wrote: I could lynch among Hopeless, Sentinel and MZ tomorrow. I have yet to see them do proper scumhunting. I don't think they are all scum though. I'll see how they react to the pressure. What I really like in Clarity's case against Sentinel is how Sentinel is promising to read the thread, without delivering.
On January 05 2013 00:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: As hard as I try, I have no idea what the hell we're talking about anymore.
Ima go read Adam's filter because for some reason he has been flying under my radar. Then I will have to go back to class because astronomy is my only free period
For example, this was totally unnecessary. And reading Adam's filter takes like less than 5 minutes, so he could have given us his insight instead of saying this.
On January 05 2013 20:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Agreed. I'm sitting the night out.
I don't think Sentinel should feel any fear of being killed tonight. It's again another indirect way to hint that he is town, when he doesn't really need to.
That's 13 posts where he isn't scumhunting, just 'participating' in the thread. And in that post where he finally calls people out as people he'd want to lynch, 2 of them (hopeless and mz) dont show up anywhere else in his filter so far. The obvious trend here is that djo hasn't been doing any scumhunting but will randomly have person(s) he wants to lynch who he's said nothing about so far.
Everything Else
Everything after the post where he calls out sentinel, mz, and hopeless is a lot like the rest of his filter. He'll get into conversations but never seems to be scumhunting or pressing reads. A lot of the time he's just arguing and giving people town reads. I also think this could be a scumslip:
On January 05 2013 22:17 Lazermonkey wrote: [quote]Well I don't think scum Marv would attack MZ in the position he is in. There are several people who have posted bad up untill this point so why chose your own team mate. Yes, he COULD be bussing, but I don't think it's likely.
Have you seen marv play scum? Last game he bussed adam because he didn't expect him to get lynched, but he never flinched in the thread even as he was convincing everyone to kill his teammate day 1. Your reasoning is bad.
I don't see how my reasoning is bad. Like I said myself it is possible for Marv to be bussing but he doesn't have to. And I think it's more likely tahn not that he is not. Your argument is terribad. Just because Marv bussed one in one game doesn't make it MORE likely that he is bussing than not bussing.
You keep saying you "think" things without explaining why. Why do you think it's so unlikely for a scum marv to be bussing a teammate who he knows won't be lynched today,
Everytime you have an answer and the answer includes "I think", try asking "why do I think that" and if that answer includes "I think" do it again. repeat this process until you reach facts or an opinion that makes bloody sense.
Clarity wtf is wrong with you? So how do you KNOW that Marv is bussing?
HOW DO YOU EVEN FUCKCCKCCKCKCKCKC
You say it's unlikely for both to be scum, I ask you why it's unlikely for a scum marv to bus a scum MZ. It's called a hypothetical, this isn't hard
In my personal experience, and I am sure you also feel this way, scum is more inclined to push townies than scum.
This is not true. I don't think it's true for marv because he has to deliver, regardless of his alignment, and it's definitively not true for kush. I also like to bus by the way
If this is true than I will reconsider. But the question is: is it true?
I have to look it up for marv. I've heard somewhere sometime that he had been bussing almost his whole scumteam in one game. But it's definitively true for kush, and it's also true for me. That's why I really don't think kush is scum in this game by the ay.
He says he doesn't think kush is scum, because kush would be bussing.... how does he know kush isn't bussing?
I'm wary of the cheesecake lynch because i've seen a few people already talk about it as if it's the only possible alternative for tomorrow. also, i have not so good memories of certain things about his town play in withcraft that make me think this is jerk-town-cheesecake
basically in witchcraft, every time he got attacked for questioned on his logic he clammed up even more and turned into more of a jerk... he seemed to be purposefully using shitty logic for whatever anti-town reason and I was like 90% he was scum the whole game cuz of it. i'm suspecting that this game might be a continuation of that. if we cant lynch a real candidate (someone who has enough of a filter to make reads from) i'll take him over a no lynch.
still want to lynch djo. the mz/foolish/supersoft situation is interesting but i wanna see whatever logs come out of that first
I think I've addressed your concerns already. Could you please make a short list of the points you still have against me so I can defend myself properly ?
Also, I would like to know why your activity in this game is lower than usual
there is no scumhunting at all in your d1 filter, and it continued with you participating in conversations but not doing anything relating to scumhunting. i'm guessing that you will say that you having low activitey is a null tell, but you can have low activity and still appear suspiscious of people, which you didn't
and i still think that scumslip is probably a scumslip
On January 08 2013 08:58 Djodref wrote: EBWOP: I also want to know when you started to write your case against me
I think I've addressed your concerns already. Could you please make a short list of the points you still have against me so I can defend myself properly ?
Also, I would like to know why your activity in this game is lower than usual
there is no scumhunting at all in your d1 filter, and it continued with you participating in conversations but not doing anything relating to scumhunting. i'm guessing that you will say that you having low activitey is a null tell, but you can have low activity and still appear suspicious of people, which you didn't
and i still think that scumslip is probably a scumslip
On January 08 2013 08:58 Djodref wrote: EBWOP: I also want to know when you started to write your case against me
a little before debears posted his
@ thrawn
I didn't have enough time to catch up and have decent scumreads. And I didn't want to appear suspicious just for the sake of appearing suspicious. That's what scum is doing, not town. Honestly, I was just sheeping the cases wich in found decent at that time.
Which scumslip are you talking of ? The thing about Cheese or the thing about kush ? I have addressed both of them. Also you should know that 'scumslips' aren't a good way of finding scum, after WitchCraft ^^
yes the kush/cc thing. the entire issue was about you having a town read on kush because you dont think he's bussing at an early early point in the game where you shouldn't be able to decide on something like that.
On January 08 2013 09:14 Djodref wrote:
And I still want to know why you are less active than usual, are you avoiding to answer ?
because it's either a dumb or scummy question. my activity is lower... do you actually care what my irl reasons are? it looks like you're trying to suggest i'm scum without doing so by asking that. what's your actual read on me? a few pages ago you seemed to be egging debears on trying to see if he'll say i'm scum without actually pushing the read yourself.
On January 08 2013 09:14 Djodref wrote: Also you should know that 'scumslips' aren't a good way of finding scum, after WitchCraft ^^
this is completely different than what happened in WC. it's not that you called kush town, it's that you called him town because of some crazy read you had where you didn't think kush could be bussing
I didn't have enough time to catch up and have decent scumreads. And I didn't want to appear suspicious just for the sake of appearing suspicious. That's what scum is doing, not town. Honestly, I was just sheeping the cases wich in found decent at that time.
What does this mean? Why would you want to appear suspicious at all as town? I don't see what you're getting at
On January 08 2013 09:52 VisceraEyes wrote: It read to me like "I didn't want to look like I was suspicious of someone just for the sake of being suspicious of someone.
As in, he didn't want to throw suspicion out there just so that he can say he did...he wanted to actually think about his suspicions first.
thrawn what are your thoughts on the debears/Vivax thing? For my part I'm more suspicious of debears at the end of it all, based on his reactions to the case.
I actually dont see what the case on debears is... I think his ego is big enough for him to be town and say some of the stuff he's said / act how he has. I thought viv's case was weak. there's a lot of words but i wasn't really convinced by it.
plus debears agrred with me concerning djo at basically the exact same time so town points for that
On January 08 2013 09:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: You'll get logs when I feel like it's appropriate, I haven't had more than a precursory discussion with supersoft since it's currently 2am for him. I'm going to stay up and try to catch him when he wakes up so maybe in like 8 or 9 hours if we get a hold of each other.
what's your first impression of him based on your convo?
On January 08 2013 09:14 Djodref wrote: Also you should know that 'scumslips' aren't a good way of finding scum, after WitchCraft ^^
this is completely different than what happened in WC. it's not that you called kush town, it's that you called him town because of some crazy read you had where you didn't think kush could be bussing
I think I know exactly how kush is acting as scum after WitchCraft. This guy is 100% sure of his reads as scum because they all are based on the prior information he has. Go check his filter in WC if you don't believe. Basically, mafia players are mafia for him and he busses them with all the stuff he knows about them. And town players are town for whatever crappy reason he can find (see his townread on CC last game) and he proceeds to defend them.
I wasnt comparing kush's play from this game to WC, I was talking about the scumslip stuff from both games
On January 08 2013 10:08 Djodref wrote: Also, please tell me what could be the mafia motivation for scum Djo to defend Kush ?
are you talking about if kush is town and you're scum? it would give mafia something silly to talk about without having to help lyncn scum
On January 08 2013 09:52 VisceraEyes wrote: It read to me like "I didn't want to look like I was suspicious of someone just for the sake of being suspicious of someone.
As in, he didn't want to throw suspicion out there just so that he can say he did...he wanted to actually think about his suspicions first.
thrawn what are your thoughts on the debears/Vivax thing? For my part I'm more suspicious of debears at the end of it all, based on his reactions to the case.
can you explain what was scummy about it?
and what do you think about vivax apart from you agreeing with his case?
On January 05 2013 03:27 Kurumi wrote: Promethelax is replacing Tunkeg! <3
Hey all. I haven't been following this game, don't know what cycle (day/night) we're in or anything really. I'll do my best to catch up but it'll be a day or two before I'm very useful.
I assume Tunkeg was under suspicion? Since he is, after all, Tunkeg. But yeah, I'm town.
Quick, someone, give me the synopsis of this huge fucking game.
Prom comes in stating he hasn't been following the game to the extent of not even knowing what cycle the game's in, but then he makes a causal comment about tunkeg being under suspicion. I only see two options: 1) that he lied about his knowledge of the game for whatever reason or 2) feels the need to address suspicions of tunkeg without having even read the thread yet.
Both options strike me as more likely to come from scum than town.
He seems way less caring and motivated as he did when he was a town replacement in looney lynching. His entrances in both games are similar: he replaces a person who's under a good amount of suspicion somewhat early on in the game. But in Looney, he had a "IDGAF" attitude about people being predisposed against him and he obviously wanted to help town. He jumped right into the game and was pretty try hard. this game has unfolded in the exact opposite way. his activety was ok at the beginning, but he dissappeared for a long time then came back saying stuff like this:
On January 08 2013 03:26 Promethelax wrote: I just want everyone to be modkilled for playing against their wincon so I don't have to listen to this tripe anymore.
On January 08 2013 04:16 Promethelax wrote: Holy fuck. No wonder Marv wanted out.
These posts are the exact opposite of what I expect from town prom.
town prom is helpful/cooperative/tryhard and usually easy to get along with. this game's prom has been the opposite. Many of his posts are just him asking people to read the thread for him.
thrawn's current lynch candidates for D3 by pref: djo, prom, (MZ)
he's not down with the cc lynch. if he were to pick anyone in the game right now to be most likely to be a mislynch, it's cc.
MZ in parenthesis because he really doesn't know wtf to think about him. thrawn doesnt understand what mz could be trying to accomplish if he's actually a town mason. the refusal to show logs is just wtf.
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On January 09 2013 08:48 thrawn2112 wrote: super, who are you gonna vote for? and do you have a legit reason for not dropping the logs yet?
well i need to talk to MZ first. As stated above he's very likely to be town. We discussed some players, but apparently we were wrong about Hopelessder etc. MZ foolishnesslogs will post the foolishnesslogs. And i have to read them.
Right now i don't know who to vote for yet. One possibility should be Cheesecake. His filter looks really bad. We need to cut ScumKP down to 2.0 today. The missed vigshot was really painful. I haven't counted yet, but we cannot afford a mislynch today.
I don't really like the CC lynch. It seems like the lynch most likely to be a mislynch and if he actually is town then a cc lynch would be the worst way we could waste our time.
Why are you saying CC? Purely because of policy or what? I can completely see him beeing town based on how he played in witchcraft.
On January 04 2013 02:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Dat feel when waking up at noon. Perfection timing I guess. In b4 "omg active lurking"
Yes I'm not contributing. @Anyone who knows about Palmar
Does stupid / dick Palmar = scum Palmar? Totally cool if we're going to lynch him for trolling. It'd make waking up heck of a less daunting task.
Although I'm curious how my lynch wagon will air-out, I think it could produce some interesting results. Sheep the vote on me.
As for my vote today -- bouncing between Palmar (prolly not) and some random Bobin the lurking zone. Tunkeg's lynch I can't see being built around anything serious. @VE
Did you seriously warrant my vote based on a pre-game comment? Hehehe. But yes, I did go to sleep. For like 12 hours it was pretty epic laziness.
Sheep my lynch guys, gogo.
Oh btw guys I'm Bob the Builder the Vanilla Townie. I'm cool enough to have a name!
Prolly still means I'm scum tho.
I even breadcrumbed my vt name cus i knew not caring would get me killed etc etc.
"knew not caring"
you knew you didn't care about the game at the very beginning? how does this work? wtf are you doing? just hoping you won't get lynched? you seem to care enough about not getting lynch to come in with martyr posts so if you're town you could at least give us something to base a read off of. ffs
On January 08 2013 15:33 Promethelax wrote: Thrawn this is my fourth game replacing in as town on d1/d2 and I was always replacing for a townie under suspicion. So I asked.
Did you read YAN?
just read through it now.... what was I supposed to see?
I see that a few times you reference not being fully caught up on the thread and you give some activity excuses here and there... that's not what the problem is this game. you don't seem in any way committed to this thread, especially considering that you are yourself. your YAN filter looks townie despite whatever your activity was like
On January 08 2013 15:33 Promethelax wrote: Thrawn this is my fourth game replacing in as town on d1/d2 and I was always replacing for a townie under suspicion. So I asked.
Did you read YAN?
just read through it now.... what was I supposed to see?
I see that a few times you reference not being fully caught up on the thread and you give some activity excuses here and there... that's not what the problem is this game. you don't seem in any way committed to this thread, especially considering that you are yourself. your YAN filter looks townie despite whatever your activity was like
Not activity bro. You said I, as town, didn't call people retards and ask questions that Yamato thinks are useless when that is the totality of my filter in YAN (or so I'm told by Yamato). I spent a lot of time in YAN calling retards retards for being retards. I just don't see how that is something I wouldn't say as a townie since I just fucking did in the last week.
saying "x player is a retard" is something done by both town players and scum players. what i'm talking about in this game is you having a very un-prom-like anti-town attidude.
On January 08 2013 11:55 thrawn2112 wrote: thrawn's current lynch candidates for D3 by pref: djo, prom, (MZ)
he's not down with the cc lynch. if he were to pick anyone in the game right now to be most likely to be a mislynch, it's cc.
MZ in parenthesis because he really doesn't know wtf to think about him. thrawn doesnt understand what mz could be trying to accomplish if he's actually a town mason. the refusal to show logs is just wtf.
palmar can you do something interesting tomorrow?
Please explain me how I can be your first lynch candidate, seriously. Also I would like to know your other scumreads atm. What do you think of Hiro and Foolish ?
I understand my activity and my contributions are less than usual but I've addressed this already. I'm starting to think that you are tunneling me for the sake of tunneling someone.
Because the cc lynch seems dumb and there's no point in trying to pressure him because he's already shown that whatever his alignment is he doesn't really care about his situation. I don't want to decide on MZ until I can see the logs. The whole weirdness of the situation (super lurky/uninterested foolish + them somehow all 3 collectively not wanting to share the logs) is really making me think that there's at least 1 scum within the MZ/foolish/super triangle. probably most likely to be out of MZ/foolish
On January 09 2013 10:51 Promethelax wrote: The distinct possibility that Fool is being useless intentionally to avoid the NK so he can solve the game later?
wtf, complete speculation.... is this a serious defense?
kush that last post sheeps almost everything i'm saying (prom + cc) ... haven't you had me as scum for a long time? what's your most current read on me?
On January 09 2013 11:14 thrawn2112 wrote: kush that last post sheeps almost everything i'm saying (prom + cc) ... haven't you had me as scum for a long time? what's your most current read on me?
On January 09 2013 11:17 Promethelax wrote: weee, I'm blates town you guys.
Don't really care what Kush thinks since he is dumb as fuck and has no idea how to read anyone but I thought better of you Thrawn.
I wish Keir was still in this game, at least he knows and understands my meta. Your meta cases are bad. You are bad. Stop being bad.
it's not just about meta attitude differences...
where is your scumhunting? where are your suspicions? you're all about sheeping on these debears/cc lynches but those are like the least original topics of conversation atm.. even in that above post you don't look like you're scumhunting:
On January 09 2013 11:17 Promethelax wrote: Don't really care what Kush thinks since he is dumb as fuck and has no idea how to read anyone but I thought better of you Thrawn.
What are your reads on kush and thrawn in this statement? It doesn't look like you're in anyway suspicious of their suspicions of you. Are you suggesting thrawn/kush might be scum?
On January 09 2013 11:36 Promethelax wrote: Nope, sorry yamato. I have done enough, I have found two guys I'm highly confidant will flip scum. I don't need to go find more probable scummers. CC and Dibbers are scum, you agree hell most of thread agrees. So no, I'm not scum but you can keep calling me scum if you want.
yes, it's very difficult to look at cc's filter and say he's probably scum o.0......... as for your debears vote, you are sheeping a case that 1) I mostly disagree with and 2) you have not added much of anything to it yourself besides the fact that you agree with it
On January 09 2013 11:17 Promethelax wrote: weee, I'm blates town you guys.
Don't really care what Kush thinks since he is dumb as fuck and has no idea how to read anyone but I thought better of you Thrawn.
I wish Keir was still in this game, at least he knows and understands my meta. Your meta cases are bad. You are bad. Stop being bad.
Prom what about this:
I don't think you give a shit about figuring this game out at all.
Your scum reads are lazy. I am allowed to be lazy because I'm town but you're nowhere near as townie as me and you're being lazy which means you're scum.
Hi, I like being scum more than being town. I have never played a lazy game of mafia in my life. You are trying to tunnel me and call me scum after sheeping me and saying you would sheep me and I still have a town read on you because you are actually this terrible. Do you understand why I might be being lazy? There are a huge number of players in this game who are doing either nothing or nothing with any intelligent thought in it. I have two pretty clear scum reads. I plan on getting them lynched. I don't particularly care if you think I am scum so long as you'll vote for scum with me.
See I agree with all of this because that's how I feel at the moment but that doesn't make you town necessarily.
The difference is, no one is trying to get me lynched. They are trying to get you lynched though which means you should be trying harder than me right now to find scum.
lol
What's funny?
you
Please do explain.
I'm not pushing his lynch I just want to interact with him a bit to see what he thinks.
you said prom should have to try harder than you and thats bs.
I mainly just want to see him react to me calling him scum and compare that to YANMM.
what's the point of that if you're telling him that's what you're doing...
On January 09 2013 12:20 Promethelax wrote: Wait, Thrawn, you have a town read of CC from his filter? I don't understand. You found a guy who gave up early and for no reason who has clearly not cared about finding scum or about town or about anything and you read that as town? Explain.
not really, i just think the lynch is dumb. there's basically nothing in his filter to make a read off of except that his manner in this game fits with my past impression of how he can sometimes act as town... so basically a coinflip lynch that I could easily see flipping town
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what is this btw
@ kush
Are you aware that Chezinu is dead ? Would you lynch debears over Prome after my case against him ?
yes i'm aware. I still don't know what that is. It looks really weird. Like I said I didn't read your case. It was too long. I dont read megacases sorry. But I read his filter and I think it's possible his behavior can be explained by just not giving a shit. Not likely but possible. But it is kind of similar to the CC lynch in that way. I think prome is a surer thing.
Not giving a shit is claiming scum.
Especially for deebs.
i dont think you can make a statement like that for such a new player. I played 2 games with him as scum and he gave a shit both times. (the first time was his first game; the second time he gave a shit for the first day then stopped giving a shit, but pretended like he still gave a shit)
I read Hero Mini where he was town and the differences in his filter from that game to this one are striking.
I disagree:
On December 12 2012 09:43 thrawn2112 wrote: You're tunneling pretty hard but being pretty carefree about other stuff
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what is this btw
@ kush
Are you aware that Chezinu is dead ? Would you lynch debears over Prome after my case against him ?
yes i'm aware. I still don't know what that is. It looks really weird. Like I said I didn't read your case. It was too long. I dont read megacases sorry. But I read his filter and I think it's possible his behavior can be explained by just not giving a shit. Not likely but possible. But it is kind of similar to the CC lynch in that way. I think prome is a surer thing.
Not giving a shit is claiming scum.
Especially for deebs.
i dont think you can make a statement like that for such a new player. I played 2 games with him as scum and he gave a shit both times. (the first time was his first game; the second time he gave a shit for the first day then stopped giving a shit, but pretended like he still gave a shit)
I read Hero Mini where he was town and the differences in his filter from that game to this one are striking.
I disagree:
On December 12 2012 09:43 thrawn2112 wrote: You're tunneling pretty hard but being pretty carefree about other stuff
On December 12 2012 09:43 debears wrote:
On December 12 2012 09:43 thrawn2112 wrote: You're tunneling pretty hard but being pretty carefree about other stuff
That's how i roll brah
from hero. (sorry debears) I really think his ego is big enough for him to be acting this way as town
This game reads a lot more like his SK game in YANMM where he was OMGUSing all over the place and generally being useless town. Has he been useful to you, thrawn?
debears? yes? it seems like i'm the only one who feels this way. both of us had similar thoughts about djo earlier but nobody really commented on either of our cases, which makes me wanna lynch djo and not lynch debears even more
and even if you were to match this game with his sk meta.... what does that mean? how does it make him scummy?
On January 09 2013 12:07 VisceraEyes wrote:I'm starting to rethink some of my scum reads...and incidentally some of my town reads. More details as they develop.
On January 09 2013 14:40 kushm4sta wrote: [quote] what is this btw
@ kush
Are you aware that Chezinu is dead ? Would you lynch debears over Prome after my case against him ?
yes i'm aware. I still don't know what that is. It looks really weird. Like I said I didn't read your case. It was too long. I dont read megacases sorry. But I read his filter and I think it's possible his behavior can be explained by just not giving a shit. Not likely but possible. But it is kind of similar to the CC lynch in that way. I think prome is a surer thing.
Not giving a shit is claiming scum.
Especially for deebs.
i dont think you can make a statement like that for such a new player. I played 2 games with him as scum and he gave a shit both times. (the first time was his first game; the second time he gave a shit for the first day then stopped giving a shit, but pretended like he still gave a shit)
I read Hero Mini where he was town and the differences in his filter from that game to this one are striking.
I disagree:
On December 12 2012 09:43 thrawn2112 wrote: You're tunneling pretty hard but being pretty carefree about other stuff
On December 12 2012 09:43 debears wrote:
On December 12 2012 09:43 thrawn2112 wrote: You're tunneling pretty hard but being pretty carefree about other stuff
That's how i roll brah
from hero. (sorry debears) I really think his ego is big enough for him to be acting this way as town
This game reads a lot more like his SK game in YANMM where he was OMGUSing all over the place and generally being useless town. Has he been useful to you, thrawn?
debears? yes? it seems like i'm the only one who feels this way. both of us had similar thoughts about djo earlier but nobody really commented on either of our cases, which makes me wanna lynch djo and not lynch debears even more
and even if you were to match this game with his sk meta.... what does that mean? how does it make him scummy?
Debears really hasn't seemed all that useful to me IMO. His one case that wasn't OMGUS was on Tunkeg, and while it was true of Tunkeg's play, he didn't show the mafia motivation and Tunkeg did not read scum to me.
He did a lot of pointless posting and then he OMGUS both Vivax and Lazer for their suspicion of him. Since then he's done basically nothing after I pointed this out.
I'm not sure I see the town in that filter at all.
meh... "hasn't seemed all that useful" compared to who in this game?
yamato what are your thoughts about lynching djo/prom today? assuming you cant lynch debears.
and where do you stand on both foolish and cc? would you lynch them and if you had to pick one which would it be?
he has looked more townie since i've made that case, but that's what's expected if he's scum
@clarity how is hiro "rising" on your scumlist? I can't even remember what's the last thing he's done. What's changed recently that caused him to "rise?"
On January 09 2013 16:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Would you expect someone who has done nothing to stay in the same place as far as suspicion goes, or would you expect that person to be progressively more suspicious as time goes on thrawn?
Think about that question before you answer it please.
On January 09 2013 16:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Would you expect someone who has done nothing to stay in the same place as far as suspicion goes, or would you expect that person to be progressively more suspicious as time goes on thrawn?
Think about that question before you answer it please.
more
are you talking about foolish or cc?
It was in response to your question to Clarity about HiroPro.
You said that you couldn't remember the last thing Hiro did. Why is that not suspicious to you?
it is, but the problem with clarity's post is that he was basically just calling out lurkers... the phrasing of "hiro is rising on my scumlist" seems a weird way to talk about it considering that the people at the top of his scumlist are even bigger lurkers than hiro
there's stuff in my filter, but basically he's sheeped lynches (CC + debears) and been acting anti-town, uninvolved, etc which should set off alarms if you've played with town prom. his town play is so town it's almost sickening lol
On January 09 2013 16:50 kushm4sta wrote: fine ill do debears ##vote debears
kush do prom with me
@ thrawn
So, do you want to lynch Prom or me ? Do you change your lynch candidate based on the general opinion of the thread ?
@ djo
....idk. I thought my case was really good at the time but everyone ignored it and attacked the only other person calling you scum (debears) all at the same time which REALLY made me think I was on to something. I looked at your case on debears and while I didn't really agree with it I didn't find anything in the case that further confirms my read. So my overall read on you is less certain than it was say, during the night phase.
all that being said I still want to lynch you but i can't for the life of me get anyone to talk about the djo case so idk where my vote's gonna end up at the moment
On January 10 2013 06:19 Lazermonkey wrote: Okey, I just recondsidered my CC lynch. I actually think he is the scummiest player in the game right now.
So, CC have not only been lurking these past few days. He has been posting exactly 1 post each cycle for the 2 last cycles. Now, I asked myself today, what would be the town motivation for this. I couldn't find an answer. As town, why wouldn't he try? I can take that he doesn't have time/don't care but why the heck wouldn't he just ask for a replacement. To be frank, even a modkill on CC would be beneficial for us right now. He knows this. Everyone knows this. There are a clear mafia motive in playing like CC tho. Unvote Vote: Mr. Cheesecake
What? You're talking like he's town in the bolded part
On January 10 2013 06:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Who will speak for Promethelax?
Who I ask?!
Actually I think it's more a town tell that nobody is speaking for him. It means it's less likely than he has scumbuddies. On the opposite, the thing about CC is that his lynch is not as easy as it should be. There is some diversion, some resistance. But at the same time, he is a very easy bus target for his team if he is scum.
What are you trying to say about CC lynch? I don't get any kind of read from that
On January 10 2013 06:39 Lazermonkey wrote: owfuck, I read you as kush. I'm sorry : (. Well, while we are at it, what's your opinion about CC?
mostly same as kush's o.0
basically... I witnessed Witchcraft Mafia.
Everyone considering a CC lynch REALLY needs to go read that game. Don't even look at his/anyone else's alignment before you read his filter.
Yhea, but the games are diferent arenät they? he posted shit loads of stuff in that game so he is obviously not fitting in his town meta at all(which doesn't say too to much because he doesn't actually fit his scum meta either IIRC, which makes the meta a null). And I don't buy the argument: ''he was bad in witchcraft and town, thus every time he is bad, he is scum.'' That would just be silly. Actually it would be double silly, because you could NEVER lynch CC implying that logic. Can you tell me ONE reason for him to play like he does as town. And I'm not talking about not contributing but rather the fact that he doesn't care about the game YET he does post 1 post every cycle in order not to get modkilled.
it's about his "I'm not gonna do my part because I don't care or am too lazy to provide rational analysis and idc who calls me out for it" attitude
and no I can't think of a good reason for why he'd do it as town but that doesn't mean he cant be doing it. whatever reasons might exist are obviously dumb
did you actually read witchcraft? please do it, and tell me what you imagine his emotional state during that game to be
On January 10 2013 06:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Who will speak for Promethelax?
Who I ask?!
Actually I think it's more a town tell that nobody is speaking for him. It means it's less likely than he has scumbuddies. On the opposite, the thing about CC is that his lynch is not as easy as it should be. There is some diversion, some resistance. But at the same time, he is a very easy bus target for his team if he is scum.
What are you trying to say about CC lynch? I don't get any kind of read from that
I think that CC lynch is also a scum lynch because it's not an easy lynch, not as easy as it should be given his contributions. I think that both debears and CC are scum. But we cannot trust anyone voting CC because I think it would be very easy for some member of the scumteam to bus him if he is scum. I'm totally fine lynching CC or debears today.
What about you ? Who would you like to lynch at the exception of Prome and me ?
currently warming back up to the idea of lazer, but you two are still in the lead
On January 10 2013 07:08 VisceraEyes wrote: I am thrawn, what else do you have besides "Djo doesn't scumhunt ever"? I've told you that I think he's townie, that doesn't mean I'm not willing to discuss him with you.
there's a marked difference between how he's playing now and how he was playing at the time I posted the case. you quoted my "tldr" version of it but did you read the case?
of course he'd try to correct the specific thing I called out.
idk... i dont get what point you're trying to make. do scum always need scum motivation to do things? if it's something that makes them seem like town, and it wouldn't hurt them too badly, why wouldn't they "help out" the thread every now and then? do you really think mz was the the only town person (and therefore potential mislynch) among the list of whoever the thread was considering for lynching at that time?
like your agrument seems extremely similar to "a scum wouldn't give town reads on a townie"
On January 10 2013 06:39 Lazermonkey wrote: owfuck, I read you as kush. I'm sorry : (. Well, while we are at it, what's your opinion about CC?
mostly same as kush's o.0
basically... I witnessed Witchcraft Mafia.
Everyone considering a CC lynch REALLY needs to go read that game. Don't even look at his/anyone else's alignment before you read his filter.
Yhea, but the games are diferent arenät they? he posted shit loads of stuff in that game so he is obviously not fitting in his town meta at all(which doesn't say too to much because he doesn't actually fit his scum meta either IIRC, which makes the meta a null). And I don't buy the argument: ''he was bad in witchcraft and town, thus every time he is bad, he is scum.'' That would just be silly. Actually it would be double silly, because you could NEVER lynch CC implying that logic. Can you tell me ONE reason for him to play like he does as town. And I'm not talking about not contributing but rather the fact that he doesn't care about the game YET he does post 1 post every cycle in order not to get modkilled.
it's about his "I'm not gonna do my part because I don't care or am too lazy to provide rational analysis and idc who calls me out for it" attitude
and no I can't think of a good reason for why he'd do it as town but that doesn't mean he cant be doing it. whatever reasons might exist are obviously dumb
did you actually read witchcraft? please do it, and tell me what you imagine his emotional state during that game to be
Like I said, His attitude is actually not the reason I am voting him.
I will not read witchcraft, it's a waste of time. My impression is that he was a posty town who played quite bad and appeared to be scum. So as far as I am concerned, his meta is not relevant in this situation at all.
Also, if you cannot see a reason for him to do it as town you should either try to find it or vote him. Period.
ffs monkey you are being so anti town with how you're trying to push this on me.
monkey asks for any small reason that cc might be town
thrawn says "go read witchcraft!"
lazer says "i won't read witchcraft!"
..........
Like I said, I'm not going to fight his lynch too much because if I had to policy lynch someone right now it'd be him. but there are people who have substance to their filter that I think makes them worth lynching, which is way better than lynching someone because you cant find good reasons not to lynch them
On January 10 2013 07:44 Promethelax wrote: Thrawn, if you are around, I want to know why it is that you think I am scum when I have showed you that in YAN I was town and playing the same way.
prom this is gonna be the last time we have this exact same argument
first, the case doesn't only concern meta differences, and the meta differences you're saying i'm talking about ARE NOT the ones i'm talking about. You say you were rude or mean or called people dumb or wahtever in yan. I'm not disputing that prom of whatever alignment can do that. You did that to me in looney when you were town. What I'm talking about in this game is your blatant anti town vibe especially considering that's the last thing we need. I've described your town play as "sickening." When I say 'sickening" that doesn't refer to what specific words you choose to call players and how nice or rude you are being, it refers to how obvious it is that you are looking for scum and want to help town.
town prom is so town it's sickening. even if he flames people from time to time.
you can be town and call people names and still help town... that idea has nothing to do with what i'm saying
On January 10 2013 08:10 Promethelax wrote: I'm trying to understand your argument so I can know if you are town who thinks you have a good case or scum pushing a mislynch. I'm sorry I don't see those arguments as holding much water.
I assume you mean ACME and not looney?
talking about whichever was one where you mislynched me for being afk on the last day. darthpunk was scum. you said a number of unpleasant things about/towards me that game
and fuck... name calling is not waht i'm talking about! It's the intent/motivation behind the name calling combined with other things about your attidude/actions that deteremine if you're having a pro town or anti town effect on the thread
On January 10 2013 08:10 Promethelax wrote: I'm trying to understand your argument so I can know if you are town who thinks you have a good case or scum pushing a mislynch. I'm sorry I don't see those arguments as holding much water.
I assume you mean ACME and not looney?
talking about whichever was one where you mislynched me for being afk on the last day. darthpunk was scum. you said a number of unpleasant things about/towards me that game
and fuck... name calling is not waht i'm talking about! It's the intent/motivation behind the name calling combined with other things about your attidude/actions that deteremine if you're having a pro town or anti town effect on the thread
dont know how much clearer I can make that
Prove it. Give me the evidence of this anti-town play that you so desperately want me to have. You keep saying my attitude is anti-town. Show me, show the thread.
Times where prom states/implies that he's useless and or doesn't know what's going on in the game
On January 05 2013 03:27 Kurumi wrote: Promethelax is replacing Tunkeg! <3
Hey all. I haven't been following this game, don't know what cycle (day/night) we're in or anything really. I'll do my best to catch up but it'll be a day or two before I'm very useful.
I assume Tunkeg was under suspicion? Since he is, after all, Tunkeg. But yeah, I'm town.
Quick, someone, give me the synopsis of this huge fucking game.
On January 05 2013 03:43 Promethelax wrote: Oh, I see we're in lynch cycle.
Can anyone link me to cases against the lynch targets? And a vote count?
On January 05 2013 09:15 Promethelax wrote: Going to work. Still mad about yet another...I'll try to be useful when I get back.
On January 06 2013 07:17 Promethelax wrote: I still haven't given this the read through it deserves. I'll read it when I get home from work in 12 hours and give my thoughts. Sorry this is taking me so long to get to, I joined up at the worst possible part of the week for me. 12 to 13 hours I'll be back. Hold me to it.
On January 06 2013 20:47 Promethelax wrote: okay, I'm here and finally getting a chance to read this game I'm in. Anyone have anything I should look at in particular?
On January 06 2013 21:40 Promethelax wrote: No idea yet. I'm on page 29 and I don't like him much but literally nothing has happened at that point in the game/
On January 06 2013 23:50 Promethelax wrote: Okay, I'm going to bed. I've not finished reading the thread but I've made a decent dent. I'll talk to you all tomorrow. Good luck town!
Prom posting in ways that shut down discussion. He talks to people in a way that if they're town they don't care to continue their conversation with them.
On January 08 2013 03:26 Promethelax wrote: I just want everyone to be modkilled for playing against their wincon so I don't have to listen to this tripe anymore.
On January 08 2013 04:16 Promethelax wrote: Holy fuck. No wonder Marv wanted out.
On January 08 2013 04:16 Promethelax wrote: Fuck you cheesecake.
On January 08 2013 04:59 Promethelax wrote: Did you read Cheese's post Kush? Or any other part of this game?
And recently you've been going along with these extremely popular debears/cc lynches...... I don't buy that you're trying to figure how who's scum. You're just coasting along playing into the bad thread atmosphere, even encouraging it at times. I will admit that just recently you've made an effort to look like town prom but same as djo, but this happened right after I started calling you so your most most recent efforts is somewhat of a null read.
Yes, a large amount of this is meta. But this is prome... he's a guy who jumped into acme with a high possibilty of being lynched and managed to look VERY town almost immediately. His behavior in this game is scummy of its own accord but it's even scummier considering that it's comming from prom
i still think we should lynch prom or djo. leaning prom atm because lately djo has had more scumreads and more things to say about them. of the two he also seems more invested in the lynch atm.
Prom has been misrepresenting my arguments for a good amount of the game. He started by acting useless/ignorant and then went on to acting mad/not caring. He's also not very invested in the game. I've already said it before.... these things are all scummy on their own but coming from prom i really dont see him being town. He's been called out for a few people but he's not really close to being lynched and I think he's fine with that.
Can everyone say what they think about prom? Lots of people have mentioned that they're thinking about him but nobody is really saying if they would lynch him or not/
On January 11 2013 03:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Thrawn did you have a response to Prom answering your post showing his "anti-town mentality"? It looks like you just ignored it.
his post was basically "no you're wrong." he says he replaced into the thread and didnt know what was going on... by why repeatedly tell us this? Especially since the thread was already so frustrating to read, I don't see why he would further waste anyone's time with stuff like that. And it's not as if the posts where he does that are concentrated, they're quite spread out. the stuff i quoted was from the first 44 hours.
And with the second selection of quotes, there is a huge level of hypocrsy in what he's doing. His stance during that time of the game was that the thread was bad, therefore, it's not worth his time to try and talk to people... that's what I mean by shutting down diuscussion. Add both of those things together and that's close to all prom has done this game.
He's sheeped on the debears/CC lynches and I've been suspicious of those lynches for a long time now. He doesn't seem too invested in the lynch besides asking people questions here and there, and spending a bunch of time trying to misrepresent my arguments.
And there's this quote.....
On January 09 2013 11:17 Promethelax wrote: weee, I'm blates town you guys.
Don't really care what Kush thinks since he is dumb as fuck and has no idea how to read anyone but I thought better of you Thrawn.
I wish Keir was still in this game, at least he knows and understands my meta. Your meta cases are bad. You are bad. Stop being bad.
.... he calls kush dumb as fuck, said he thinks better of thrawn, tells people to stop being bad. there is no suspicion in that post. this came at a time when I'd expect him to be the most suspicious as people were starting to call him scum.
On January 11 2013 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote: Thrawn I support Promethelax as a counterwagon to Toad. I agree that he looks more like scum than town, but I feel like Toad has a higher chance of flipping scum.
Wish me luck with my wagon - I wish you all the luck with yours. May we both get what we want in the days to come.
how much emphasis are you putting on the jackal thing for toad? You've spent a lot of time wifoming about palmar's death and how it may or may not mean anything about toad as well. there's also the thing about him giving up... but it seems like several other players have done this already? Do you have anything to say in his filter relating to his reads/votes/thoughts that might make him scum?
On January 11 2013 03:44 Lazermonkey wrote: Thrawn, stop being a hipster. Even if prom or djo are scum, they aren't realistic target today. That's the bitter truth... The more we split our votes, the more influence scum voters will have!
prom is a realistic lynch, idk what you're saying. there's actually an ok amount of people in the thread right now
ve will you change to prom if toad doesn't work out? and i'd like to see an answer to the questions I asked a few posts back about your thoughts on toad
i'm coming around to lynching toad only assuming i cant lynch prom
there's a big scumtell that's being overlooked:
On January 11 2013 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Toad has had no suspicion up to now except from me. Even Foolishness, by Toad's own admission, he was taking as a reaction test...so that means that I've been the only person to put any kind of suspicion on Toad.
Why would he give up? I understand debears giving up, and Cheesecake is....whatever. But Toad has NO REASON TO GIVE UP. It's not even like his scumreads have flipped town BECAUSE HE HAS HAD NO SCUMREADS BUT ME ALL GAME.
He's not giving up - he's simply not reading the thread...but in spite of that, has opinions on who should die.
The Jackal thing is what it is - an association. But think about the context behind it. He was saying with that post that we shouldn't lynch into veterans - except, this game was chock full of veterans. It doesn't make sense from a townie perspective, limiting such a large portion of the playerbase.
scum have agendas, they know who they want to lynch even if they haven't fully read the thread. ve himself did this in a game he replaced in as scum, he came in with a big post talking about how austin (townie) needed to die when he shoudln't be able to form such a strong opinion yet. town can't have opinions on who they want to lynch if they haven't read the thread, but scum do
marvellosity 01-08-2013 08:20 PM ET (US) the game is stuck in a rut and no-one is willing or able to drag town out of it.
Accurate
that's when I started tunneling djo
I hate playing scum. I occasionally had to say mean things (that I may or may not have actually agreed with) about people in order to justify my reads and I didn't like it at all
oh lol, the reason we killed meapak is because we wanted to control how the logs between meapak/foolishness got released. we didn't want meapak fully claiming and calling foolish scum, so we killed him and we were actually going to fake the logs and have super give them to the thread. we knew it would look bad either way but we didn't want meapak to be the one who gets to talk about it
the meapak death didn't create ANY discussion about the whole meapak/foolish/super triangle so the logs ended up not being worth faking or worrying about
On January 11 2013 22:47 Clarity_nl wrote: Clearly unnecessary since MZ read foolish as town from those logs, holy shit. Then he died and took a big dump in the obs qt like the massive turd that he is.
so what's the deal with activity? I came in expecting the thread to explode but it was slower than a lot of minis i've played in. i'm seeing people saying that the game was going too fast, some say too slow.... what's up?
marv.. we we planning on you being lynched d2, then saving you and lynching the next highest townie using doublevote and 2 dayvigs. the double vote is where the missing .5 kp went in n1. lol
yeah, we decided to spend the first dayvig as soon as he claimed so he wouldn't get to scumhunt as a confirmed town. we knew it would completely kill the thread, and the thread's reads were bad enough that it was an ok sacrifce. losing the kp sucked tho... it really makes you not want to bus if at all possible. but i can't imagine a scenario where the thread took jackal's word over wbg's
otherwise we were planning on saving dayvigs and doublevote for the lynch to troll town into accidentally lynching a townie instead of a townie
preferably saving marv and lynching some other guy
On January 11 2013 23:47 syllogism wrote: I think the claim was perfectly fine and necessary as from his perspective just pushing jackal lynch could get him day vigged and I'm not sure if town could be trusted to lynch jackal just based on him flipping 1-shot cop. I guess really obviously breadcrumbing it could have worked, but I would have claimed the check as well. Actually he could have been shot before claiming the check OR pushing to get jackal lynched.
we had originally planned to shoot wbg instead of iamp n1 lol
On January 12 2013 00:00 Lazermonkey wrote: thrawn, why did you guys shoot Palmar btw? He wasn't really confirmed by any means nor did he seem very active during the later stages of the game.
we had a feeling he was about to start talking about who he wants to lynch for real
It really it didn't matter lol. Nobody was voting scum except for random votes for foolish.
debears was nailing scum tho. he got djo and everyone ignored it (i sheeped him lol), then he got vivax and everyone ignored it. town was doing a great job of lynching debears by themselves... debears helped a lot too
On January 12 2013 02:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote: That being said, Vivax had the best mafia play of his entire team. not trying to belittle that at all. His play was easily some of the best in the game if not the best.
Agree. He looked very town (barring scumslips )
ve you almost caught me by a big scumslip but you got distracted by some wifom and didn't pursue it