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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 16 2012 04:15 GMT
#3241
I dont even give a shit. I know your scum tho. post game dont get all egotistical thinking you played me or some shit cause I know the teuth.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 16 2012 04:17 GMT
#3242
LOL

You know I'm not scum. Don't even front.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 16 2012 04:22 GMT
#3243
your not scum hunting your setup speculating.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 16 2012 04:22 GMT
#3244
but w/e i dont care. town lost already.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 16 2012 04:36 GMT
#3245
Monday is monday. Kreb is still scum.

##Vote: Kreb
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 04:59 GMT
#3246
lol town's losing it
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 05:03 GMT
#3247
On October 16 2012 13:15 Coagulation wrote:
I dont even give a shit. I know your scum tho. post game dont get all egotistical thinking you played me or some shit cause I know the teuth.

then why is your vote parked on kreb huh?
BlackMamba24
Profile Joined August 2012
United States277 Posts
October 16 2012 05:26 GMT
#3248
Day 6 Vote Count

VisceraEyes (1): Kreb

Kreb (4): Coagulation, iamperfection, VisceraEyes, slOosh
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 16 2012 05:58 GMT
#3249
On October 16 2012 13:22 Coagulation wrote:
your not scum hunting your setup speculating.


That's part of scumhunting at this stage in the game.

If we understand the mechanics at work, we can understand the motivations of the scums.

Speculating about the setup before now is useless - but now we have lots of flips and claims and info to work with. To ignore this shit just because "Oh scumhunting not setup speculation" is asinine. We could speculate all day about whether 1 person was roleblocked on D2, but it ceases to be speculation and starts to become evidence at some point.

And I'm not just speculating on setup - I'm drawing conclusions about the setup based on the information I have. With these conclusions, I'm looking for clues in peoples' filters...tell-tale signs that people have more information than they are letting on. It's pretty much a guarantee that ZBos is scum. The way he and Kreb have been pushing this "we're at MYLO" idea as if there's no question that Kush was town. For them to say that there's no doubt in their mind that I'm scum is irresponsible and bad. They should question everything. INCLUDING my claim.

But unlike others who have questioned my claim, ZBos and Kreb are actively trying to discredit me and my claim.

ZBos is cheerleading my lynch without even being on the wagon. It's just funny that Kreb is calling the inactives out for "waiting to see what happens" when one of his biggest supporters isn't even on the wagon himself.

Because whether you guys like it or not, the claim is a part of my play this game. Sorry to disappoint if you think my play has been "horrible" or "bad" or whatever...I would argue that I've had bad moments but overall my play has been relatively straight-forward. Anyone saying that I haven't been scumhunting this game is being maliciously ignorant. Just a glance at my filter is enough to see that I care about finding scum. It's not even a question. I may not be super awesome at it, but it's clear that I'm trying. Exceptions start to appear when I start losing my grip on the game - when Kush flipped town is a great example of a point where I pretty much don't even care anymore. My check after Kush flips is evidence of this. Mementoss was, as BC and others have pointed out, a bad check - both for myself and for town. I threw his name out there to see if he was lying about his claim...and now that I know my checks are accurate(ish) then that further reinforces the idea that I had a good report on Kush too.

But with all my information - with all my checks and roleblocks and everything I have, I'm still not as sure that Kreb is scum as he seems to be that I am. And I'm town. LOL

Anyway, this has been a rant. I'm tired of being told I'm not scumhunting. The people accusing me of such are not explaining what they mean anyway, so I don't even know why I'm letting it bother me.

So yeah. Bring it on scum. If you think you can get me lynched, then get ready to reap the whirlwind.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 16 2012 06:16 GMT
#3250
Coag are you scum bro?

I mean, jesting is one thing - but if you honestly believe that I'm scum, then why aren't you voting for me? Do you think Kreb and I are scumbuddies? Want to walk me through that line of thinking?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 16 2012 06:51 GMT
#3251
Now....

I believe its time to stop the charade. The bad part about this timing is that a lot of you NAers probably will be asleep by now, but it will have to do. Some information was at garnered from last yesterdays (IRL-yesterday) play, such as Coag and Iamp being town. Anyway, Im a Lucky Citizen. To be honest I would have been forced to reveal that sooner or later anyway due to the pressure on me. Rather than doing it in a defensive fashion because scum would push me anyway I felt the need to shake things up a bit, at least I got two clear town reads from it, not perfect but not fruitless. Also, the inactiveness of a few people was alarming, I was hoping to get a little more out of it but as always there were afk-town in there to fuck it up. Probably mafia will move away from me to a secondary target now which they used the time to decide on, or they'll just wait again.

Post game stuff:
+ Show Spoiler +
The fuck is up with that 3rd party lol? Night immune, some kind of role blocker while also knowing about the power of random Town roles so they can claim accordingly? Rofl? What kind of superman-role is that?

Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 16 2012 07:02 GMT
#3252
On October 16 2012 07:25 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 07:17 iamperfection wrote:
On October 16 2012 07:15 Kreb wrote:
Come on people. Surely I dont need to repeat myself. Look at all the points I presented on VE early on. Look at his scumhunting. Look at his pushing of Kush. Look at him jumping on every damn possibility excusing himself. Marvs reaction to the Node wagon, the RBs, the role+alignment framing, the check on MMT he got called out by BC for, the supposed sac KPs for changing Kushs flip.

And if thats not enough, surely Im scum if I've pushed that all game. Vote me instead then.



who is scum besides ve in your view?

Two people who still hasnt said shit since this day started. One of them is about 99% scum. The 2nd one im a bit more uncertain of. But today we're lynching the 100% scum VE or we go down in grand fashion by lynching me.

And that is Sloosh. Not much was garnered on that part except for their whole god damn filter where they barely even touch each other (Y U NO OPINION ON VE SLOOSH!?!?). Got this at least:
On October 16 2012 06:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Coag why DID you mention slOosh in response to my question? He hasn't even commented on myself OR Kreb today.

What is the reasoning you think slOosh is scum Coag?
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 16 2012 07:03 GMT
#3253
On October 16 2012 04:18 Kreb wrote:
And come on, you got your three mafia votes and your pet townie vote, thats 4. At least put down one of two on me to get this rolling.

Oh yea and that was Coag I was referring to (before he put down his vote). He confirmed himself as it.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 16 2012 07:10 GMT
#3254
Oh and here too:
On October 16 2012 06:25 Coagulation wrote:
kreb and sloosh

VE reaction to Coag opening up Sloosh as an option:
On October 16 2012 06:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Coag why DID you mention slOosh in response to my question? He hasn't even commented on myself OR Kreb today.

What is the reasoning you think slOosh is scum Coag?

But here?
On October 16 2012 08:12 Z-BosoN wrote:
I'm concerned about iamperfection. His lack of reading regarding DP raised a flag.

VE reaction to ZB opening up Iamp as an option:
....
....
....

Trying to keep a firm leash on your townie friend?
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 08:18 GMT
#3255
Dear VE,

I haven't voted on you yet because I'm still figuring out if you are worth today's lynch or if I should target sloosh (whom you've also conveniently ignored). You also lie saying that I am 100% sure you are scum, please quote where I gave absolute certainty. You are just a very strong suspicion.

You can't ignore me and say I'm cheerleading your wagon and thus scum. I've been more than clear regarding my thoughts on why you are scum. You say you are done with me yet say absolute shit regarding my main concerns against you.
Go ahead and call out scum all you'd like, say how townie you are, etc. it doesn't give your claim credibility.

You know what gives my claim that you are scum credibility? Your fucking play. Your little "butthurt" act on me, one of your top scumreads. I don't see a townie decide to play this act when dealing with a "top scumread". I've extensively explained this, and why I think you are scum. Have been hammering at you for the longest time now, and you felt it was convenient to cast it aside.

Also, this right here:

Because whether you guys like it or not, the claim is a part of my play this game. Sorry to disappoint if you think my play has been "horrible" or "bad" or whatever...I would argue that I've had bad moments but overall my play has been relatively straight-forward. Anyone saying that I haven't been scumhunting this game is being maliciously ignorant. Just a glance at my filter is enough to see that I care about finding scum. It's not even a question. I may not be super awesome at it, but it's clear that I'm trying. Exceptions start to appear when I start losing my grip on the game - when Kush flipped town is a great example of a point where I pretty much don't even care anymore. My check after Kush flips is evidence of this. Mementoss was, as BC and others have pointed out, a bad check - both for myself and for town. I threw his name out there to see if he was lying about his claim...and now that I know my checks are accurate(ish) then that further reinforces the idea that I had a good report on Kush too.


Is shit. Anyone who can read your filter will note that you haven't bothered to actively pursue A SINGLE person on your scum list, something I've pointed out MULTIPLE times and you haven't replied once. The most pursuing you've done is on kreb, and the most convincing you've said regarding him is how "his townie filter is much much bigger than the filter this game".
You've also drawn a ridiculous association between me and kreb that all it does is strengthen your massive appeal to emotion you just splurged. You don't write out theories, you don't explain anything. You don't justify shit. It's the same thing as if Kreb stated that every single person on his wagon is mafia and started calling out scum.

It's interesting how you've actually felt the need to try and defend yourself right now.

This actually strengthens your scumminess. Instead of trying to figure shit out, trying to go through filters and take a stance on whoever is scum, now that we are in a possible mylo, what do you do?
"Guys I'm sorry, I've been trying my best, I really have!!!"
"Come at me scum, I dare you!!"
"Kreb+ZB = SCUM because they want to lynch me!!!"
That's basic scum defensive instinct. An active townie who actually gave a shit would certainly use much better arguments rather than "THESE GUYS ARE TRYING TO LYNCH ME, A TOWNIE. THUS, THEY ARE SCUM."
By all means though, continue with your butthurt act. I don't need your approval to show people how scummy you look.

I'm voting for sloosh today. I'm pretty certain the both of you make a very nice scumteam.
So everybody sees what I mean, go ahead and control+F sloosh on VE's filter. That's how much he cares about someone who's been in a LOT of fire and is BC's main scumread.
You are also both conveniently focusing on kreb, someone I actually have a town read on and who also claimed.
The main reason I'm choosing sloosh over you is due to the slight 10% chance that you are actually a town cop, and because someone like BC confirmed a major scum read I've had earlier on.
Anyways, nice try though. Your post almost got me crying. Almost.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 08:19 GMT
#3256
Kreb, did you get shot?
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 16 2012 08:26 GMT
#3257
No, I didnt. I wish I could say I did because everything would make more sense that 0 kill night (you didnt forget to PM me did you BM? ). But I didnt.

Theres also a possibility VE has investigated me and started to focus on me because it would require 2 KP to get rid of, as opposed to 1 lynch. But yea thats speculation.

Sloosh is the only one Im ever gonna even consider switching vote to. Otherwise Im staying put.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 16 2012 08:38 GMT
#3258
And god damn it Shiao, why you have to be so useless? I was ready to move you off my possible scum list and then you go afk at the perfect time. As of now theres still possibilities of DP, Shiao or risk as the 3rd scum.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 16 2012 10:20 GMT
#3259
Hard choices.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 16 2012 10:23 GMT
#3260
On October 16 2012 17:38 Kreb wrote:
And god damn it Shiao, why you have to be so useless? I was ready to move you off my possible scum list and then you go afk at the perfect time. As of now theres still possibilities of DP, Shiao or risk as the 3rd scum.


I see many of you group me with a bunch of people as potential scum. Do you have any evidence or a case on why this is so? I think it would be better for town that, instead of lumping several people in as scummy, you actually decide on your top scum read and build a solid case on them.

Kreb are you now back flipping on VE? do you believe VE is scum? Do you have a breadcrumb to support your Vet claim?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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