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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 16 2012 15:07 GMT
#3281
Coag. Godfather... I've almost played 20 tl games. I have never played (or seen) a game with a godfather without investigative role. The only exception I can recall ever seeing was a semi-closed setup with 4 potential setups in which one of the setups included gf without investigative roles so mafia couldn't tell what power roles the town had.

The odds are VE is town.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
October 16 2012 15:09 GMT
#3282
On October 16 2012 23:53 risk.nuke wrote:
With VE claiming the only investigative role in the game it makes it likely his claim is legit.

Not sure about kreb's claim. It's pretty meaningless. I'm leaning towards him fake-claiming.

Still thinking about who I want to lynch the most.

How is it meaningless sure a vet claim in normal game might be meaningless but we know that there has to be a lucky citizen in this game.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 16 2012 15:10 GMT
#3283
How do we know that?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
October 16 2012 15:12 GMT
#3284
On October 17 2012 00:10 risk.nuke wrote:
How do we know that?

On September 25 2012 03:01 BlackMamba24 wrote:


Players know the name of every role in the game but information on powers is withheld. Specific numbers of town/mafia/third-party are unknown.
Role-list


Lucky Citizen
Vigilante
Concerned Citizen
Enforcer
Hitman
Paramedic
Private Investigator
Medical Examiner
Coroner
Detective
Godfather
Paranoid Arsonist


plus bc's fake claim gives credence to the fact that luck citizen is a town role.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 16 2012 15:13 GMT
#3285
@Kreb:
His case boils down to meta and me thinking VE is town.
Meta is terrible, as no one is reading the context of the LVII: I knew strongandbig was scum because he was hinting at Toad (the other assassin) that I could be scum. Everything else was fabricated in the sense of I could have done it as scum and town ate it up because they had no clue what they were doing. It's the same crap BC did. slOosh isn't playing as well as "town slOosh". Abuse of meta - if it's obvious I'm scum you should be able to point it out this game, not cherry pick what I was able to do in previous games in different contexts.

And why defend VE when he has no votes? It's a nonsense point.


Kreb's blue claim is bogus.
On October 13 2012 22:35 Kreb wrote:
On a different note: Im starting to think 3rd party on sloosh. His play doesnt seem...... "aligned" with the scum and what I'd expect the scum to do. He's sticking his head out expressing wierd opinions a bit too much.

I'm third party -> Kreb believes we have 2 medics and 2 veterans this game. Yea right.
Kreb is just bsing a convenient role that's already been flipped that doesn't require him to make up night actions.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 16 2012 15:17 GMT
#3286
yeah my votes on sloosh
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 16 2012 15:47 GMT
#3287
On October 17 2012 00:12 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 00:10 risk.nuke wrote:
How do we know that?

Show nested quote +
On September 25 2012 03:01 BlackMamba24 wrote:


Players know the name of every role in the game but information on powers is withheld. Specific numbers of town/mafia/third-party are unknown.
Role-list


Lucky Citizen
Vigilante
Concerned Citizen
Enforcer
Hitman
Paramedic
Private Investigator
Medical Examiner
Coroner
Detective
Godfather
Paranoid Arsonist


plus bc's fake claim gives credence to the fact that luck citizen is a town role.

The list is of potential roles. Not existing ones. Proof is that the miller role was removed.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 16 2012 15:55 GMT
#3288
ok I figured it out. Scum only have 1 kp. They got an extra kill because toss visited paranoid arsonist.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 16 2012 16:10 GMT
#3289
Stop trying to think Coag. You'll pull something.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 16 2012 16:20 GMT
#3290
w/e put your vote on sloosh.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 16 2012 16:23 GMT
#3291
##Unvote
##Vote: slOosh


Sorry brah, but what did it for me was "you should be able to show me from this game" when you've barely posted anything this game and you know it. No one can show you anything about your play from this game because you've barely played this game.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 16 2012 17:08 GMT
#3292
You serious right now? Everything I've said about Kreb these past couple cycles are just fluff or something? Kreb is fabricating crap and apparently .... whatever. If I can't be as active as I usually am I guess I just shouldn't play. Lynch me, then lynch Kreb when you realize meta is worth jack.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 16 2012 17:16 GMT
#3293
Well, I was hoping in a perfect world mafia would be ballsy enough to counter claim my Lucky Citizen, as it was a rather weak claim after BC had already revealed the role. But everyone commented on it already and no one took the bait. Maybe I was fishing for too much there. But was worth a try and some people called me out for not crumbing at least. Not sure if that means anything really though. Hmmm. And thanks for asking me about crumbs DP, I was banking on someone doing it. :p

So here the full crumbs:
Post N3 post. Notice how this is BEFORE BCs claim. Boy am I glad I decided to throw that crumbs there before BC revealed the role:
On October 06 2012 18:50 Kreb wrote:
Well this is getting a bit silly. I feel I havent really done much useful stuff last 3days due to the obvious marv lynch, and now we have to wait another almost 5days before we get to (what could be!!!!) the next real lynch. I guess we're a bit lucky we have caught two seemingly strong scum players (I had a pretty towny read on Hapa although I was suspicious of marv). The lives of Risen and mkfuba shall not be forgotten! The fact that austin got shot also makes it look like he was telling the truth last night and was targetted. Still no claims for this night yet though....

I kinda kept updating on following post night posts, although they dont really mean much since this was after BCs claim. But here they are anyway:
N4:
On October 09 2012 16:50 Kreb wrote:
Im a little bit interested in the sloosh case, but I still do not really see a reason to switch off VE. And on another note, mafia shot BKE, why would they do that?

N5:
On October 12 2012 16:34 Kreb wrote:
Just looked at day post, this look to have got even more wierd than it already was lol. Still have not read through everything yet though, but no one getting shot.....? Theres gotta be some wierd mechanics at work here, I highly doubt it was all shots into Veterans, night immunes or medic saves. Well, probably shouldnt comment more before I read it all through....

And Im really starting to dislike how this thread gets like 2/3 of its posts while I sleep.

Also, while not exactly a crumb, this a bit pretty funny and might strengthen my claim: :p
On October 04 2012 08:06 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 06:50 Z-BosoN wrote:
Kei, I don't get why scum would want to claim RB.

I think he claimed RB because he did, in fact, get RB and doesn't want an angry roleblocker on his ass.

So, we got 2 vigi shots, and 2 mafia shots accounted for?
mafia on BC and ... austin?
and vigis on kingjames01 and annul.

If that's correct, probably all shots went through and my VE got roleblocked and thus didn't kill supposition is wrong.

Unless... austin is lying just so the angry roleblocker doesn't push VE or whoever else might have gotten roleblock as well? Hm...

Carry on

I can see one reason to target austin though: Killing austin (supposing he is town) would possibly kill any support for the idea that the Node case was mafia-fabricated/fuelled. Because there would be no clear purpose to why mafia would have pushed it then. Maybe thats far-fetched, but its a thought anyway. Still thinking the whole idea with both a medic and vigi/mafia targetting austin seems strange though. Could austin be a veteran-role instead and claiming medic-save to confuse mafia? Or is there any other reason why a town-role would fake claim something like that?

Or, of course, he is straight up lying and is scum.

That said, while I dont mind the recent low quality discussion too much since its more than 4 days until next "real" lynch, I think people are spending a bit too much effort speculating on setup. Even if there are 3 medics, so what? That doesnt give us anything.

That was me shamelessly fishing for advice on how to handle the situation of me getting shot since I wasnt sure what the best course of action would be since this is a new situation for me.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 16 2012 17:24 GMT
#3294
And please do note how Sloosh and VE suddenly are all over each other....
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 16 2012 17:39 GMT
#3295
On October 17 2012 00:07 risk.nuke wrote:
Coag. Godfather... I've almost played 20 tl games. I have never played (or seen) a game with a godfather without investigative role. The only exception I can recall ever seeing was a semi-closed setup with 4 potential setups in which one of the setups included gf without investigative roles so mafia couldn't tell what power roles the town had.

The odds are VE is town.

Theres still an unclaimed detective in the game (together with two other unclaimed roles). And 6 Blues out already. Either 7/4 town/mafia power roles or 6/5. I'd say 7/4 is more likely, which fits in with the fact that a town Detective might still be around. Arsonist also sounds much more mafia-ish. Until we know what/who the detective is you shouldnt assume VE being town because he is the supposedly the only investigative role.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 16 2012 17:39 GMT
#3296
Either 7/3 or 6/4 i mean.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
October 16 2012 18:10 GMT
#3297
On October 17 2012 01:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Stop trying to think Coag. You'll pull something.

Why did that post upset you?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
October 16 2012 18:35 GMT
#3298
This game has gone full on derp mode.

Shame.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9648 Posts
October 16 2012 18:54 GMT
#3299
On October 17 2012 03:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
This game has gone full on derp mode.

Shame.

Why you think coag is wrong?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 16 2012 19:46 GMT
#3300
any reason Risk.nuke isnt a candidate for lynch entire game? ?
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