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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 16 2012 22:57 GMT
#3321
Agreeing with Coag, you better have something for there to be a chance I'm buying.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 16 2012 23:01 GMT
#3322
If you wanna form a wagon on Iamp then spit it out. Otherwise you're not really getting anywhere as hes not a target. His claim can be discussed later. And do I have to point out that town needs to be quite unanimous so we dont give mafia the possibility to sway the vote their vote close to deadline?
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 16 2012 23:01 GMT
#3323
And even if your claim is true. You want to lynch Viscera based on your speculation of what that one-liner post ment?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
October 16 2012 23:02 GMT
#3324
Kreb, Shut up.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 16 2012 23:12 GMT
#3325
Look at all this resistance to the VE lynch. Despite there being very good reasoning and reason behind a lynch on VE.

The only thing that has kept VE alive despite the weight of the evidence against him is Increasingly silly setup speculation.

In any of my newbie games he would have been lynched. He spent the best part of 2 days tunnelling townie kreb on the flimsiest reasoning ever (oh no you post less in your third ever game).

I am jack of meta and set-up speculation being used in increasingly ridiculous fashion to save VE. when applying Okham's Razor it says VE is scum.

##Vote Viscera Eyes

Reference:
Z-B's and Krebs Cases.

Keirathi on VE.

BC on VE.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 16 2012 23:14 GMT
#3326
I will be around till deadline.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 16 2012 23:19 GMT
#3327
On October 17 2012 08:01 risk.nuke wrote:
And even if your claim is true. You want to lynch Viscera based on your speculation of what that one-liner post ment?

yes


On October 06 2012 10:15 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:10 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:02 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:00 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:53 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:51 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:43 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:41 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:33 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:31 Hapahauli wrote:
[quote]

I told you exactly why it's scummy.

[quote]

You have not refuted this. You have not criticized this. Instead you offer weak-ass reasons to defend someone - as if other people's behavior somehow vindicates risk's behavior.

So tell me why you think risk is town/not-scummy/whatever? You keep saying that he could be telling the truth, but you've never offered reasoning for it.

here a little homework for you. go read kush's filter for me. gogogogogogo tell me what you think


*gasp* you're telling me that kush posted something scummy?! That's so abnormal.

Here's the Newbie XXVI obs QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/zDzCCmJq78hdr

Read my posts (45-47). Believe it or not, Kush being super scummy is not alignment indicative. He's capable of doing this shit as scum or town. However, he does have a discernable meta-difference from when he's scum or town. He tends to be really angry and whine a lot as scum. He's a lot calmer/"logical" when town. A quick readthrough of his filter makes me lean town on him. When he's pressured in this game, he's much calmer (relatively) than his scum games. Read his filter in Newbie XXVII or GSL II Mini to see how he reacts to pressure as scum. It's possible he could've learned from his mistakes, but for now, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

ok now do coagulation.

theres a method...... just do it


I'll admit Coag's filter is quite strange. I'm unsure what to think of it. On the one hand, he really hasn't done much of anything, and he's a vet. On the other hand, he's rather indignant - he's demonstrating a lot of the "I don't give a fuck" attitude that you yourself did in Rockband Mini.

When you put these two together... I don't know. I'm pretty null on him. I'd have to look more into his meta to give you a definitive response. That's a project for tomorrow if I'm still alive. I'm much more sold on risk.

Secondly, I'm STILL waiting for a response here:

How is it "weak-ass shit?" It looks pretty damn scummy to me. He doesn't want to build a case before the nightflip... why? In particular, why the nightflip? He didn't simply say he was lazy. He didn't simply say he didn't feel like posting. He didn't want to post until after the nightflip.

Problem is, this makes no sense - what would he gain from posting after the nightflip? Nothing. This isn't a lynch flip, it's an NK flip. It's as if he's suggesting a scum NK will help him make his lynch decision.


You've still have not explained why I'm wrong here, or why risk can be considered null after this.

i never said you are wrong im just saying i found it strange that the post stuck out to you considering all the other posts that have been made that i would say are very similar.


Well I hope atleast agree that risk needs to answer for this.

But in additional context, consider that risk hasn't been under much suspicion this game (atleast from what I've read). It's really really odd that he's not scared of getting NK'd in this context.

fair enough i wont fight his battle for him.

Also im fairly certain he can easily answer the question if he is town.


Cool.

Since you asked me about kush/Coag, what do you think of 'em?

I believe kush to be town his high activity and hes been somewhat pushing discussion. Despite his wifom mind bombs my gut tells me town.

Coag is a prime concern of me.
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 04:51 Coagulation wrote:
why the fuck am I on the list? Im sorry but I have done nothing to look scummy at all. Maybe im not the most active player here but that sure as fuck doesnt indicate that im scum in any way.

I dont like that acted like a cry baby when he was listed on someones scum list. Stuck out to me as weird. Especially in a large game like this why would a town player give a fuck that he was on someones list.


My role deals with priming indviduals. I wont get into details but at one point in the game i had a prime on coagulation. I would use the word prime or primarly to show my targets. also at one point i had a prime on ve.

On October 05 2012 10:30 iamperfection wrote:
in other news i'm fairly certain that both austin and kush are town.

Austin- Contributed a lot and i dont think he would be able to come with some of the cases he did as scum. I agree that marvs flip says nothing about node. Like i said before marv is crafty and nod still hasent done anything to make me think he is town. Austin just had the unfortunate circumstance of being in the wrong place at the wrong time and i dont believe the node case was a distraction for anything.

Kush- In all of his posts i don't get a sense he has extra information. Also his larg amount activity makes me think he is town.

So who do i think is scum well for now i would say the most likely.

Node- this sob has done nothing to make me think he is town. Also the orginal case brought up against him is still valid despite marvs presence.

VE- somebody mentioned this earlier
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 00:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
And regardless of your alignment annul, you should probably know that I'm going to be exhausting. I haven't been in a mafia game for like a week or two.

He said he would be exhausting and he hasn't been. I played with ve town briefly once before and i wouldn't describe his play this game as that here. In that game he dominated the discussion when he was there and was by and far the town "leader" i would say. I think the case that tails Posted earlierr on Is valid and [b]VE[b/] has an activity tell that he cant shake. My gut tells me he would bee a good lynch.


You may not know who my prime or primes are on now and i did not bread crumb my most recent moves. As you can guess being primed is not good and can lead to your death since i primed only people i thought might be scum.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 16 2012 23:21 GMT
#3328
oh the ve is supposed to be bolded 2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 16 2012 23:21 GMT
#3329
On October 17 2012 08:19 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 08:01 risk.nuke wrote:
And even if your claim is true. You want to lynch Viscera based on your speculation of what that one-liner post ment?

yes


Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:15 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:10 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:02 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:00 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:53 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:51 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:43 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:41 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:33 iamperfection wrote:
[quote]
here a little homework for you. go read kush's filter for me. gogogogogogo tell me what you think


*gasp* you're telling me that kush posted something scummy?! That's so abnormal.

Here's the Newbie XXVI obs QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/zDzCCmJq78hdr

Read my posts (45-47). Believe it or not, Kush being super scummy is not alignment indicative. He's capable of doing this shit as scum or town. However, he does have a discernable meta-difference from when he's scum or town. He tends to be really angry and whine a lot as scum. He's a lot calmer/"logical" when town. A quick readthrough of his filter makes me lean town on him. When he's pressured in this game, he's much calmer (relatively) than his scum games. Read his filter in Newbie XXVII or GSL II Mini to see how he reacts to pressure as scum. It's possible he could've learned from his mistakes, but for now, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

ok now do coagulation.

theres a method...... just do it


I'll admit Coag's filter is quite strange. I'm unsure what to think of it. On the one hand, he really hasn't done much of anything, and he's a vet. On the other hand, he's rather indignant - he's demonstrating a lot of the "I don't give a fuck" attitude that you yourself did in Rockband Mini.

When you put these two together... I don't know. I'm pretty null on him. I'd have to look more into his meta to give you a definitive response. That's a project for tomorrow if I'm still alive. I'm much more sold on risk.

Secondly, I'm STILL waiting for a response here:

How is it "weak-ass shit?" It looks pretty damn scummy to me. He doesn't want to build a case before the nightflip... why? In particular, why the nightflip? He didn't simply say he was lazy. He didn't simply say he didn't feel like posting. He didn't want to post until after the nightflip.

Problem is, this makes no sense - what would he gain from posting after the nightflip? Nothing. This isn't a lynch flip, it's an NK flip. It's as if he's suggesting a scum NK will help him make his lynch decision.


You've still have not explained why I'm wrong here, or why risk can be considered null after this.

i never said you are wrong im just saying i found it strange that the post stuck out to you considering all the other posts that have been made that i would say are very similar.


Well I hope atleast agree that risk needs to answer for this.

But in additional context, consider that risk hasn't been under much suspicion this game (atleast from what I've read). It's really really odd that he's not scared of getting NK'd in this context.

fair enough i wont fight his battle for him.

Also im fairly certain he can easily answer the question if he is town.


Cool.

Since you asked me about kush/Coag, what do you think of 'em?

I believe kush to be town his high activity and hes been somewhat pushing discussion. Despite his wifom mind bombs my gut tells me town.

Coag is a prime concern of me.
On October 06 2012 04:51 Coagulation wrote:
why the fuck am I on the list? Im sorry but I have done nothing to look scummy at all. Maybe im not the most active player here but that sure as fuck doesnt indicate that im scum in any way.

I dont like that acted like a cry baby when he was listed on someones scum list. Stuck out to me as weird. Especially in a large game like this why would a town player give a fuck that he was on someones list.


My role deals with priming indviduals. I wont get into details but at one point in the game i had a prime on coagulation. I would use the word prime or primarly to show my targets. also at one point i had a prime on ve.

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 10:30 iamperfection wrote:
in other news i'm fairly certain that both austin and kush are town.

Austin- Contributed a lot and i dont think he would be able to come with some of the cases he did as scum. I agree that marvs flip says nothing about node. Like i said before marv is crafty and nod still hasent done anything to make me think he is town. Austin just had the unfortunate circumstance of being in the wrong place at the wrong time and i dont believe the node case was a distraction for anything.

Kush- In all of his posts i don't get a sense he has extra information. Also his larg amount activity makes me think he is town.

So who do i think is scum well for now i would say the most likely.

Node- this sob has done nothing to make me think he is town. Also the orginal case brought up against him is still valid despite marvs presence.

VE- somebody mentioned this earlier
On October 01 2012 00:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
And regardless of your alignment annul, you should probably know that I'm going to be exhausting. I haven't been in a mafia game for like a week or two.

He said he would be exhausting and he hasn't been. I played with ve town briefly once before and i wouldn't describe his play this game as that here. In that game he dominated the discussion when he was there and was by and far the town "leader" i would say. I think the case that tails Posted earlierr on Is valid and [b]VE[b/] has an activity tell that he cant shake. My gut tells me he would bee a good lynch.


You may not know who my prime or primes are on now and i did not bread crumb my most recent moves. As you can guess being primed is not good and can lead to your death since i primed only people i thought might be scum.


So your a mad hatter with potentially multiple bombs.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 16 2012 23:21 GMT
#3330
On October 17 2012 08:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 08:19 iamperfection wrote:
On October 17 2012 08:01 risk.nuke wrote:
And even if your claim is true. You want to lynch Viscera based on your speculation of what that one-liner post ment?

yes


On October 06 2012 10:15 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:10 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:02 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 10:00 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:53 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:51 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:43 iamperfection wrote:
On October 06 2012 09:41 Hapahauli wrote:
[quote]

*gasp* you're telling me that kush posted something scummy?! That's so abnormal.

Here's the Newbie XXVI obs QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/zDzCCmJq78hdr

Read my posts (45-47). Believe it or not, Kush being super scummy is not alignment indicative. He's capable of doing this shit as scum or town. However, he does have a discernable meta-difference from when he's scum or town. He tends to be really angry and whine a lot as scum. He's a lot calmer/"logical" when town. A quick readthrough of his filter makes me lean town on him. When he's pressured in this game, he's much calmer (relatively) than his scum games. Read his filter in Newbie XXVII or GSL II Mini to see how he reacts to pressure as scum. It's possible he could've learned from his mistakes, but for now, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

ok now do coagulation.

theres a method...... just do it


I'll admit Coag's filter is quite strange. I'm unsure what to think of it. On the one hand, he really hasn't done much of anything, and he's a vet. On the other hand, he's rather indignant - he's demonstrating a lot of the "I don't give a fuck" attitude that you yourself did in Rockband Mini.

When you put these two together... I don't know. I'm pretty null on him. I'd have to look more into his meta to give you a definitive response. That's a project for tomorrow if I'm still alive. I'm much more sold on risk.

Secondly, I'm STILL waiting for a response here:

How is it "weak-ass shit?" It looks pretty damn scummy to me. He doesn't want to build a case before the nightflip... why? In particular, why the nightflip? He didn't simply say he was lazy. He didn't simply say he didn't feel like posting. He didn't want to post until after the nightflip.

Problem is, this makes no sense - what would he gain from posting after the nightflip? Nothing. This isn't a lynch flip, it's an NK flip. It's as if he's suggesting a scum NK will help him make his lynch decision.


You've still have not explained why I'm wrong here, or why risk can be considered null after this.

i never said you are wrong im just saying i found it strange that the post stuck out to you considering all the other posts that have been made that i would say are very similar.


Well I hope atleast agree that risk needs to answer for this.

But in additional context, consider that risk hasn't been under much suspicion this game (atleast from what I've read). It's really really odd that he's not scared of getting NK'd in this context.

fair enough i wont fight his battle for him.

Also im fairly certain he can easily answer the question if he is town.


Cool.

Since you asked me about kush/Coag, what do you think of 'em?

I believe kush to be town his high activity and hes been somewhat pushing discussion. Despite his wifom mind bombs my gut tells me town.

Coag is a prime concern of me.
On October 06 2012 04:51 Coagulation wrote:
why the fuck am I on the list? Im sorry but I have done nothing to look scummy at all. Maybe im not the most active player here but that sure as fuck doesnt indicate that im scum in any way.

I dont like that acted like a cry baby when he was listed on someones scum list. Stuck out to me as weird. Especially in a large game like this why would a town player give a fuck that he was on someones list.


My role deals with priming indviduals. I wont get into details but at one point in the game i had a prime on coagulation. I would use the word prime or primarly to show my targets. also at one point i had a prime on ve.

On October 05 2012 10:30 iamperfection wrote:
in other news i'm fairly certain that both austin and kush are town.

Austin- Contributed a lot and i dont think he would be able to come with some of the cases he did as scum. I agree that marvs flip says nothing about node. Like i said before marv is crafty and nod still hasent done anything to make me think he is town. Austin just had the unfortunate circumstance of being in the wrong place at the wrong time and i dont believe the node case was a distraction for anything.

Kush- In all of his posts i don't get a sense he has extra information. Also his larg amount activity makes me think he is town.

So who do i think is scum well for now i would say the most likely.

Node- this sob has done nothing to make me think he is town. Also the orginal case brought up against him is still valid despite marvs presence.

VE- somebody mentioned this earlier
On October 01 2012 00:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
And regardless of your alignment annul, you should probably know that I'm going to be exhausting. I haven't been in a mafia game for like a week or two.

He said he would be exhausting and he hasn't been. I played with ve town briefly once before and i wouldn't describe his play this game as that here. In that game he dominated the discussion when he was there and was by and far the town "leader" i would say. I think the case that tails Posted earlierr on Is valid and [b]VE[b/] has an activity tell that he cant shake. My gut tells me he would bee a good lynch.


You may not know who my prime or primes are on now and i did not bread crumb my most recent moves. As you can guess being primed is not good and can lead to your death since i primed only people i thought might be scum.


So your a mad hatter with potentially multiple bombs.

maybe
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 16 2012 23:24 GMT
#3331
Unreal.

GG Scums.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 16 2012 23:33 GMT
#3332
Nice
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
October 16 2012 23:34 GMT
#3333
lol this game
Does you "priming" him give you any additional information?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 16 2012 23:35 GMT
#3334
On October 17 2012 08:34 Z-BosoN wrote:
lol this game
Does you "priming" him give you any additional information?

no
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 16 2012 23:38 GMT
#3335
No kills night before.

2 kills last night.

Not hard town.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
October 16 2012 23:39 GMT
#3336
Ok, Im off to sleep. So if anyone want to pull any shenanigans, I will NOT be around to assist you. My vote stays on VE.

Good Night!
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
October 16 2012 23:39 GMT
#3337
On October 17 2012 08:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
No kills night before.

2 kills last night.

Not hard town.

whats your point?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 16 2012 23:41 GMT
#3338
Trying to figure that out myself.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 16 2012 23:42 GMT
#3339
On October 17 2012 08:39 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 08:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
No kills night before.

2 kills last night.

Not hard town.

whats your point?


In before set up speculation.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 16 2012 23:42 GMT
#3340
Shrug.

I'm what I say. Care to humor me with what you believe happened assuming I'm telling the truth?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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