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While, I usually take the "HOLY SHIT WTF?" route on VT claims d1, I think this claim, is a legitimate claim, because: 1.His defensive behavior once voted back from prplhz. 2.Him actually pointing a finger to a guy who support's him. Also gonna check zeph's filter after GSL and MW3 playing. | ||
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On September 06 2012 20:02 Dirkzor wrote: Both points can be scum traits aswell as town traits. I still see his VT claim as stupid and unnecesary. Could you explain why those could be scum traits? Comparison of Zeph/V7's vote's: On September 06 2012 06:43 Zephirdd wrote: Risen is not scum, or at least he doesn't look scum based on meta. I could tell you why, but it's information about an ongoing game. Suffice to say he flipped scum there and he looked very differently from these initial three posts. On the other hand, a rule that seems to work a lot is Kenpachi Rule extended: everytime someone cares about some bullshit from the first post of a player, he's scum. This applies for both prplhz and Risen here, but only one of them is an OMGUS. That was quick huh ##vote prplhz Point no.1 Saying that by meta he IS town (which I believe he is, but for other reasons), but doesn't explain HOW is it different (even though it's an ongoing game, I think zeph could've give at least a small detail. Point no.2 Times how that rule has worked, is irrelevant (I don't think that a rule that worked alot might ALWAYS work). Point no.3 Vote's prplhz off an OMGUS (doesn't explain why it's scummy) ******************************** On September 06 2012 12:09 vaderseven wrote: First off, I agree with prplhz that his vote on Risen is NOT an omgus. I also agree with his general read on Risen and would like to add to it. This post bothers me alot. Your first post is to declare, with a big bold picture and green text, that you are Green and that we should trust you. You go on to say some feel good stuff about how we will win cuz we are awesomesauce or something. What prplhz wrote there is fairly standard first post kinda stuff. He is asking people to post so that he can scum hunt... so that makes him scum?? I see no merit to that thought. I really just don't like your play at all this game Risen. I am feeling fairly sure, for a day 1, that you are either not thinking AT ALL before you post (and I think I recall playing with you before and not thinking that) or you are scum and just not doing a 100% job of hiding it. Of the two possibles there, I find it a fair chance for it to be that you are aggressive scum that is hiding it poorly. ##vote Risen He explain's why he think's prplhz is town, and explains why Risen's post's are scummy. Who I think MIGHT be scum from this is, Zephirdd, but the balance might be shifted by the point's of that V7's post seems more careful (explain's everything) while Zeph's is less careful (quick look at the post into he's SCUM). Conclusion: Zephirdd slightly leaning scum because if his response Vaderseven Null, will read more into his filter later (mostly thinking about the careful/reckless response to the Risen/prplhz voting) | ||
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On September 06 2012 22:54 marvellosity wrote: BL, what do you think of Keirathi? He's Null, based on his lack of post's (His only post's are "People have made dumb cases, Risen's case is one" "Kenpachi rule + OMGUS > Kenpachi Rule" "prplhz i dun has strong read on u so no vote"). I would wait for him to form a "stronger" read on someone before fingering him an alignment. | ||
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Aaaaand reading the thread. | ||
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Keirathi: I think he's town, he's been tunneling Risen, but is persistent to his read (which I think is townie because he doesn't take the easy way of voting and makes a case and defends it), he also defends himself when accused by marv. I have an odd feeling on marv, meta check! Scum marv (NMMII) This game's marv Do you guys see a similarity?I think I do, when I look at his post's, they are: one-liners!, some useless, some pointing out x,y or z. Particularly, his post's don't have much content (or do they :O?), his stances, are understandable, but we don't know why: On September 07 2012 21:18 marvellosity wrote: i'm not a fan of lynching prplhz today See the stance? yes, see why? no. (Marv could you explain please?) marvellosity: Odd feeling he might be scum, filter's look the same, but i'd see if he dies N1 or not (Sorry marv, it's normal nao ) My final stance on v7/Zeph: Zeph: Townie v7: Still null. Why? v7: He believes Risen IS scum, he has posted mostly (all) about him, but he has not posted about anything else. Zeph: How he was very open, how he provided information willingly as soon as Death Note ended, I consider townie. | ||
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##Vote: vaderseven (Also, I sadly can't be there for the deadline, unless I wake up early.) | ||
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On September 08 2012 12:50 Zephirdd wrote: WHAT read? you're not getting away this game, bluez. First of all, you flipped from "scummy" to "town" on me WAAAAY TOO QUICKLY. Secondly, your filter reeks of nothingness, and your case(read: reason to vote) on Vaderseven is terrible. If you read him as town, you were supposed to defend Risen's ass. If you read him as scum, you were supposed to vote his ass. Instead, you took the middle route. Hey I was sleeping -__-" Well, I'd rather vote for someone who I think is more likely to be scum (marv read depends on who dies d2), then any of the people I read as townie (read: v7). | ||
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On September 09 2012 03:15 Keirathi wrote: Something I'd like to ask Bluelightz. You said that you had a null read on V7 twice. Then again: However, Your very next post (with no post from vader in between): How did he go from null two different times, to your scummiest read with no interaction from him? Your logic: I should've voted Risen. My logic: Voted vaderseven because zeph/risen I thought was town. | ||
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On September 09 2012 09:49 vaderseven wrote: That narrows down the setup types possible OR you are lieing in order to make us think that. Not saying you are a liar btw. Seem's rather careful. | ||
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On September 09 2012 03:27 prplhz wrote: Hey Bluelightz how do you feel about this game? Do you think that Ange777 is scum? Ange77: He died. Aaaaaaand I think we should lynch marv because he didn't die n1. (Okay that's just because he was scum and didn't die N1 in NMMII too). | ||
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On September 09 2012 23:13 Keirathi wrote: Err, what? I didn't ask you why you didn't vote Risen. I asked you how your null read suddenly turned into your strongest scum read. Do you literally have a town read on every single person in the game, so the best you could do was vote a null read? During d1, the best you could vote was following the Risen bandwagon train? I voted v7 because if we swinged votes it would be more likely(easier) to gather support to lynch v7 as some people have already voiced their willingness / say's that the lynch target is between Risen / zeph / v7. Zeph lynch thoughts: Will I vote zeph? No. Why wouldn't I? because he has proven his innocence (to me), by being willing to share information with town, even if he picked an easy target (meh) to pick on, by doing that he is actively trying to find scum (he thinks i'm scum) and not wasting time doing other stuff. | ||
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On September 10 2012 00:20 Keirathi wrote: Yes, the best I could do was vote Risen. I made a case, gave plenty of reasoning, and argued with Risen about it for hours. I voted for my scum read. So you voted for your null read. I can kind of understand your reasoning, BUT: who was your scum read? You never actually pushed one at all. The only person you ever even mentioned that you thought was scummy was Zeph, and you changed that to a townie read based on one post. If there were 3 lynch candidates, but you had a town read of two of them and a null read on the third, wouldn't the appropriate play be to make a case on the person you thought was scum, with supporting evidence etc, and try to get people off of your town read? But instead, you took the easy way out and just put a throwaway vote with no real reasoning behind it onto v7. Sounds like you didn't particularly care if Risen died, even though he was a "Town read". How the fuck do I defend Risen while I'm sleeping?. There's not much to say on v7's filter than He hasn't talked about anything BUT Risen. (Sleeping now, don't expect responses till tommorow after school ) | ||
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Your case is based wholly on meta, am I correct? I'm more worried about Bluelightz. This game he was the only one to go against the Risen lynch (besides Risen himself). The last game I remember Bluelightz going against the "mainstream" lynch was Wheel of Fortune Mafia. In that game Bluelightz made a ton of cases on other people because he thought that zentor was town and that it was a mislynch. Everybody agreed that Bluelightz played really well post game, he even got a mention from Radfield in the Mafia Awards thread. Your Point's: -Only one to go against the Risen lynch -I went against the Zentor's lynch as well -I made a ton of cases because I thought Zentor was town -I played really well <--- WTF does this have to do? -Got a mention from Rad <--- WTF this too? My Point's -Okay, I'm the only one, why's that scummy? -How does that have a connection with now? -Didn't have much of a scum read on everyone else then v7 Second paragraph: Don't give a shit? I give a shit about this game, all my activity is trying to find scum & identify town. On Marv, as Keirathi (?) is as well, I'm extremely paranoid of him, he didn't die n1 is NMM2, he didn't die n1 here, he was scum in NMM2, I think he might be scum here too (I'll look over his defence for a more solid read). | ||
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On September 10 2012 20:50 marvellosity wrote: Zeph should have a field day with these 'slips'. I was scum in NMM THREE and didn't die, obviously. I was town in NMM2 where BL was scum himself and did not have me nightkilled. Oh shit what was the latest game we played together? | ||
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On September 10 2012 20:53 prplhz wrote: not much really but i think that the case i wrote on bluelightz is ten times better i don't even understand the case on zeph people are wrong all the time but that doesn't make them scum bluelightz has actively not given given a shit about this game and that's way scummier Isn't a case on meta based on chance? | ||
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On September 10 2012 21:00 marvellosity wrote: Says in that post. So tell me, BL, why are you a fan of lynching me based on the fact I am alive when as scum you left me alive all game in NMM2? Oh god damn marv, it's this one: NMMIII , that's the game where you were scum . | ||
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On September 10 2012 22:48 marvellosity wrote: No, I am talking about NMM2. I NMM2 you were scum, I was town, and your scumteam left me alive for the whole game. So why are you pushing suspicion on me being alive here, when YOU YOURSELF left me alive as scum before? Answer the god damn question. Other people seemed more useful than you at the time (WBG & Dangeresque), so that's why you were still alive. | ||
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Day 1 what did he do? search for scum. Scum who? Risen. Why this is bad? He posted exclusively about Risen, and has the interaction with others like brick's with air. We need to clear out the potential scum leads, for less "who know's" during LYLO (hopefully not happening), and less not useful people, why is v7 not useful? While his pushing for Risen was useful, it's not useful now, he already flipped, and what's in his filter besides pushing Risen? On September 09 2012 09:49 vaderseven wrote: That narrows down the setup types possible OR you are lieing in order to make us think that. Not saying you are a liar btw. On September 10 2012 15:08 vaderseven wrote: God I don't like any of the current cases at all. I will be around to answer questions AND i have next two days off work so I'll be a bit more active. ##Vote: vaderseven | ||
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Why the fuck are you guys for pointing at me for lynching a medic that didn't BOTHER defend and claimed in the last 10 minutes? only because of an impending modkill. Looking over some other stuff, prplhz looks like a fine lynch target, but I guess I should be more careful when pushing people. | ||
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On September 12 2012 00:44 Dirkzor wrote: Happy Birthday Quatol! This post is actually really super duper scummy. BL didn't lynch anyone, so why does he assume we think he was behind the V7 lynch? Prplhz is "fine". What?!? Why? And no you shouldn't be more careful when pushing because that how you get scummy people lynched. I'm the one people are pointing sticks on after the mislynch | ||
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##Vote: Zephirdd Random ramblings: We shouldn't,we're dead, D E A D dead if scum simply pulls a last minute vote switch on a random townie. | ||
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Hey I prplhz and Keirathi are TOWN!!!!!! The rest of them are SCUM!!!!! KEEL THE SCUMMMMMMMM | ||
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gg scum, you got me I guess :/. also Dirk your scum just admit it :p | ||
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On September 12 2012 21:41 Zephirdd wrote: roflroflroflroflorlforlforlforlfol I'll tell you what, for a minute I considered a dirk/prplhz scumteam was possible. But then bluelightz decided to claim scum by targetting the claimed parity cop with breadcumbs and the claimed roleblocked player when no one claimed boxer(and any boxer claim at this point would be seen with gigantic scrutinity). Thank bluez, I was freaking out for a moment here. Now I'm comfortable with your lynch more than anything else. Hey guys, can you call for a 24hr day? I don't think much will change if we have an extra 24 hours at this point. I can gurantee I'm town. I can't gurantee your scum, and oh, Dirkzor is most likely to be scum imho. ##Unvote ##Vote: Dirkzor I don't bloody care who you vote Dirk, but your scum . (And if your town vote Dirk please ) | ||
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Not another, and hopefully I'm not losing to Dirk again. My final read is, Me, prplhz, and Zeph are Town, Dirk and Keirathi are Scum | ||
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What are the interaction and reads on each other Kei -> Dirk = "Completely Null, I'm never gonna get a solid read on him, EVER."(He has been saying Dirk is null to him for two days straight and not even speaking with him besides 1 post which doesn't show alignment I thin). Dirk -> Kei = 'I actually don't like keirathi all that much either at the moment' and no reasoning, AT ALL. Why is this lack of interaction scummy? because that they are trying to avoid bringing attention to each other. In the quote I took from Dirkzors post's, he say's he doesn't like Keirathi, but why? He's not saying anything on Keirathi that might lead Keirathi to being lynched. Why is Zeph town? Because of the Parity Cop claim and RB. Why is prplhz town? Because of his posting, it feels townie because no townie would be like that, EVEN THOUGH, that he didn't vote me while he thought me as his strongest scum read, I think that he's town, and the connection between Keirathi and Dirkzor seem's obvious, to me. Why am I town? This may be hard to believe from my posting, but I care about this game. I can't make huge contributions like every other townie, not like a Palmar, or syllogism, but this is my final reads that I've brought to the table, this is what I'm sure off, this is the miracle I believe can happen. On September 13 2012 03:21 Keirathi wrote: I was reading through filters again, and particularly the last day, when this struck me: If BL is town, why would the scum need to last minute vote switch away from him? The game would be over if he was lynched. So, he proposes an alternative vote to himself. Then if he can convince even one townie that he's not scum, his scum partner can jump in with a last minute switch and win the game himself. Yea, BL is scum. Not everyone voted at the time and your saying that I'm proposing people to vote me?! ME?! a fucking townie? Also fuck timezones I won't be here for the deadline. | ||
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On September 14 2012 00:26 Dirkzor wrote: Yeah I read it. yeah I'm not going to reply. Basicly I'm sad everyone didn't vote for short days and are just waiting for d4. Your sad because I had time to make a defense post and you might lose | ||
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On September 14 2012 00:32 Keirathi wrote: The only person who hadn't voted at the time when you made that post was prplhz, who I still believe to be your scum partner. And I didn't say you were proposing people to vote for you. You proposed an alternative lynch to yourself, and if you could convince one townie that you weren't lying, then prplhz could hop in with the last second vote and you would win the game. And, you care about the game? You voted for the fucking confirmed cop. Unless you yourself are the cop, or you think that Zeph and I both lied about being roleblocked and you are BoxeR. There's literally no other possibility. Convoluted logic on my mind, didn't read up on the claim..... I'm not BoxeR, one of you are. Oh, look, coincidence? Dirkzor and Keirathi being online together ? | ||
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On September 14 2012 00:34 Bluelightz wrote: Convoluted logic on my mind, didn't read up on the claim..... I'm not BoxeR, one of you are. Oh, look, coincidence? Dirkzor and Keirathi being online together ? Eh, oops, I'm not the ROLEBLOCKER. | ||
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Point out the alternate lynch on MYSELF, I said I thought Zeph n Dirk were scum at the time, I didn't propose a alternate lynch on myself no shit. | ||
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On September 14 2012 00:43 Keirathi wrote: Exactly. Because you haven't cared about this game at all. And coincidence! You're still defending prplhz! Where did that read come from? You literally haven't mentioned him this whole game until you said "prplhz looks like a fine lynch target" during the night after people started calling you+prplhz out as a scumteam. Now you're saying that he's town, with some convoluted logic ("Because of his posting, it feels townie because no townie would be like that, EVEN THOUGH, that he didn't vote me while he thought me as his strongest scum read, I think that he's town"). You're just squirming because you realize you're caught and trying to muddy up the thread. I'm defending prplhz because I think he is TOWN. I said he was a fine lynch target during the night, okay. I read up more, he's town? suddenly not okay? I'm trying to muddy up the thread? what's the use of that now? Your scum. Your not gonna change your vote, the town aren't even online. | ||
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On September 14 2012 00:43 Keirathi wrote: Exactly. Because you haven't cared about this game at all. And coincidence! You're still defending prplhz! Where did that read come from? You literally haven't mentioned him this whole game until you said "prplhz looks like a fine lynch target" during the night after people started calling you+prplhz out as a scumteam. Now you're saying that he's town, with some convoluted logic ("Because of his posting, it feels townie because no townie would be like that, EVEN THOUGH, that he didn't vote me while he thought me as his strongest scum read, I think that he's town"). You're just squirming because you realize you're caught and trying to muddy up the thread. Your just randomly throwing stuff at me to get the illusion of actually defending and pressuring me, no? also Dirkzor where are you? You want me to think your town? Then why aren't you here trying to get me lynched? Are you scum just watching from sidelines? You say your town, yet in LYLO you just go away after saying a little bullshit. | ||
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On September 14 2012 00:50 Keirathi wrote: I think you're misunderstanding me, or maybe blatantly trying to discredit me. When you made that post, there were 3 people voting for you (Zeph, Me, Dirkzor). You put your vote on Zeph, and made a "case". If you get even one townie to follow your vote onto Zeph, then prplhz swoops in at the last minute with a hammer and you win the game. Again, if you are a townie, then why would scum need to last minute switch off of you to win the game?. They wouldn't, because they would win the game by lynching you. Don't you understand that the warning I said applies to townies? It doesn't apply to you scum. | ||
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On September 14 2012 01:03 Keirathi wrote: My point is, if Dirk and I are the scumteam, then we have no reason to pull a last minute vote switch because as long as Zeph is on our side, then we've already won. Literally the only need for scum to ever pull a last minute vote switch onto a random townie at that point would be if you were scum. Also "funny" how you only decided to start caring about the game when your neck was on the line. Haha, funny when you decided to care about yourself when your being pressured? Even if there's no reason, it's still a point to be considered during LYLO, especially considering the numerous games won by last minute vote switches. | ||
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On September 14 2012 01:03 Keirathi wrote: My point is, if Dirk and I are the scumteam, then we have no reason to pull a last minute vote switch because as long as Zeph is on our side, then we've already won. Literally the only need for scum to ever pull a last minute vote switch onto a random townie at that point would be if you were scum. Also "funny" how you only decided to start caring about the game when your neck was on the line. If your, supposedly town, explain your lack of communication with Dirk, and why, I shouldn't consider that as a scummy trait? You've been dodging the arguments I proposed between you and Dirk and just cherry picking the arguments and ignoring the rest~! | ||
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On September 14 2012 01:06 Keirathi wrote: Care about myself? I've put a ton of effort into this game, and you haven't cared about it at all. You put a vote on the fucking 100% confirmed cop because why? You were too lazy to actually read or care about what had happened so far? I haven't fucking cared? I CARE ABOUT THIS GAME. Town might lose again, because of me, because of me Town loses, even TheToast once even laughed at me about the so called "Curse of the Bluelightz", this is a demonstration of something I fucking care about, killing scum. What have been I doing all game? trying to find scum. | ||
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On September 14 2012 01:09 Keirathi wrote: Counter question: why is my small interactions with Dirk scummier than your zero interactions with prplhz until people started calling you+prplhz out as a scumteam? You know its impolite to answer a question with a question? answer my fucking question scum. Yeah like prplhz was worth talking about during the time I could post here, people started talking of "Oh let's lynch prplhz" in the what? final hours of Day 2, you know timezones right? How the fuck do I give opinions on prplhz when I'm sleeping in bed? when the deadline is when I wake up? Why do you think I post 12 hours after every deadline? | ||
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On September 14 2012 01:13 Keirathi wrote: Care you show me where? You called vader null twice, then suddenly (and without any posts from him in between) changed him to a scum read. Which you kept pushing on d2. That's literally the only scum read you've given ALL GAME until now when its LYLO and your neck is on the line. Hey I read stuff! clearly I am not allowed to change my opinion after realizing something! Aaaaaand answer my bloody question scum. | ||
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On September 14 2012 01:13 Keirathi wrote: Care you show me where? You called vader null twice, then suddenly (and without any posts from him in between) changed him to a scum read. Which you kept pushing on d2. That's literally the only scum read you've given ALL GAME until now when its LYLO and your neck is on the line. Just 1 hour ago, a little bit on the past few days~ | ||
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On September 14 2012 01:18 Keirathi wrote: Dirk hasn't done anything impactful in the entire game. I never thought he was scum, and no one ever even talked about him being scum, so there was no reason to talk about him. The difference is that prplhz HAS been a topic of discussion. Again, you didn't think it important to talk about prplhz during the Risen debacle? You gave Risen a town read because of his case against prplhz and the fallout from it, but didn't think prplhz worth mentioning? I don't understand how you as a townie could possibly have not cared about prplhz at all considering you had a town "read" on Risen. Show me when the topic started..... "funny" how you gave an opinion on your buddy when your being presssured . Oh, and OBJECTION1!!! On September 09 2012 20:48 marvellosity wrote: ##Vote: Dirkzor straight omgus BL is just an awful player and i'm not sure he's ballsy enough to pull this off as scum. Dirkzor, however, should know better than to spout this nonsense. You kill one of the strongest players because he survives ONE NIGHT? No. Various options as to why I survived: 1) I am scum. Simple enough. 2) Scum considered Ange more dangerous than me at this stage of the game 3) Scum feared a medic prot on me 4) Scum saw BL talking this stupid nonsense and decided not to kill me (if BL isn't scum himself) 5) Something I didn't think of at this point Clearly someone voting Dirkzor = no attention at all!!!! | ||
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On September 14 2012 01:20 Keirathi wrote: You didn't even give a reason for your change of "opinion". You used the exact same reasoning to justify vader as a null read AND as a scum read. He literally did nothing else in between, but suddenly you changed "only talked about Risen" from a null tell to a scum one. I'll keep it short n sweet: I'm not gonna vote for my town reads (Hey! Zeph & Risen! kewl). Who should I vote?!!! Read about v7? Hey! I think he looks scummy! I shouldn't vote him because he didn't shit in between my post's! or that it was just too sudden of a change of mind! Here's some proof of why I'm townie, I ain't scared to post whatever. Voting the "confirmed" Parity Cop? Oh that Bluelightz (as a townie) for ya! crazy I know. | ||
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On September 14 2012 01:25 Keirathi wrote: By the time I got back in the thread, that discussion was already over. Dirk said he was trying to bait reactions, but marv answered first, so Dirk pushed a case on Zeph. Okay, I understand that, what about my other arguments Keirathi? | ||
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On September 14 2012 01:26 Keirathi wrote: So your justification on the vote for Zeph is that you are terrible? LOL I saw something wrong with him being NOT killed, then I realized marv was far more important (probably according to you n Dirk) so he was the one who got killed. | ||
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Why did Zeph get roleblocked? becasuse, HEY! he's a parity cop! But did scum fear something if they didn't RB Zeph? Oh, probably the fact I was town because Zeph checked me n1, and the result would've interfered with Dirk & Keirathi's lynch of choice ) | ||
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On September 14 2012 01:32 Keirathi wrote: Anyways, this whole argument is pointless and I'm just getting frustrated. Here's my final opinion: Prior to today, you haven't cared about this game at all, nor done virtually any scumhunting. Suddenly your neck is on the line, and you're super active and wanting to argue, while pushing scumreads on me and Dirk while still defending prplhz. Nothing you have done this game has been pro-town, and voting for the confirmed cop is just stupidly anti-town. With Zeph as a confirmed townie, I have 3 people to pick a scumteam of two out of. You and prplhz make the most sense, so I'll be sticking with my vote. Your scum. I don't care on what you do with your vote Keirathi. | ||
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On September 14 2012 20:22 marvellosity wrote: Hey, I'm glad to hear you say that. It was maddening to see you only active once you were all but dead at LYLO. You need to look at how you're spending time on the game. prplhz - you're never going to forgive me for picking out Snarfs that game, are you? Risen - I've said it multiple times to you already and I'll say it again - Dirk was not scummy. The fact you continue to say he was does not make it so. Edit: Dirk - process of elimination, probably. D'awww <3, You better get rid of that Get killed n1/Not get killed n1 though please , that was fucking with my brain so much | ||
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