TL Mafia LVII - Page 100

On September 14 2012 04:58 grush57 wrote:


The sloosh post I'm talking about is about Maverick.
BM does one liners regardless and makes jokes in half his posts, just how he plays you guys aren't going to get anywhere calling that scummy

On September 14 2012 04:58 Toadesstern wrote:

Are you reading the game?
Or did you just forget that we had someone claim having a bomb on me?

They shot Z-Boson, the guy who claimed Mad hatter who placed a bomb on me to get a free kill (hinthint: I was supposed to be the free kill).
Why should they shoot the guy who is supposed to be a free kill on top of having the bomb do the job? Unless of course they didn't believe the claim, which can't be because if that's the case they could have just shot me without having to shoot Z-Boson.
Furthermore the kills seemed to be rashly rearranged to fit the changed situation with Z-Boson claiming. I really don't get what you're asking here.

Also this is nothing special. I'm awesome at playing mafia yet I'm only an average town-player. Mafia left me alive in *whatever the name was* although I was a modconfirmed town mason in that game. But again, a lot of people are paranoid about me, even if I end up being innocent-child-like confirmed. Not saying it's that strong this game but you've got to be really paranoid to consider me a mafia after what happened yesterday.
I usually get shot either n1 or survive until lylo. Pretty much nothing inbetween exists in the history of Toad-games so far.

You should put your paranoia somewhere else. Maybe something good will come out of it if you target someone else.

On September 14 2012 05:22 Shady Sands wrote:
Gravan's above post is anti-town defensive play at its scummy worst. In addition to my prior charges against him, now I can say he's lying as well:

First off, he says I'm actively lurking. I'm not. Actively lurking would be posting heavily and having a 10 or 15 page filter without substance. I'm simply lurking. I even say it myself that my activity level is low.

Second, he says I started a bandwagon on him based on Forumite's green flip. That's an oversimplification. I started the wagon on Gravan because he piled onto Forumite when the case on Forumite was all but assured, using other people's analysis as his own reasoning, in an attempt to look contributory. The fact that Forumite flipped green is just icing on the cake. Grav's trying to twist the truth here; don't fall for it.

Third, the vig hit was called out because of my case on Gravan before the Day post came around. Gravan even quotes it in his post.





Again, don't fall for Grav's lies. I already called for a vig hit there with evidence, so why should I clutter up the thread and repeat what I wrote?

Fourth, of course I'm going to keep the heat on Gravan: he is the scummiest read I have, so shouldn't I be trying to get my top scumread lynched?

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Now, onto his defense:

Grav posts a lot about how he shares a ton of characteristics with many other people. This is a non-defense. How does sharing a bunch of scummy characteristics with other people make you less likely to be a scum?

Then says that people who are voting for him specifically are voting because:



Hang on a second: Grav wasn't the first wagon: the wagon on MMToss started at the same time as his did. (Another lie.) Second, the other reasons are all great reasons to vote for Grav specifically: The D1 post about Matt--soft defense of someone that was later a scum caught trying to fakeclaim. The active lurkiness--both of those reasons, if you believe them, should put Grav at the top of your list of scum reads.

And to those reasons which he himself admits to, we can also add the reason of lying.

Lynch Grav, the actively lurking, OMGUS-ing, lying, soft-defending, scum.

On September 14 2012 05:26 Shady Sands wrote:

You still didn't answer the question. How does that make Mav scum?

Also, look at Grav, and tell me you don't see a scum.

Today is for Grav. Tomorrow is for MMToss or maybe Mav, once I finish reading his filter. I am not switching my vote to anyone but Grav, and I hope everyone here understands that and can show this scumbastard the noose.

On September 14 2012 05:10 Mementoss wrote:


Yeah but if you were mafia you would have shot Zboson to make yourself look more townie.

You said this DIRECTLY after the mad hatter claim:



So you being alive after Mad Hatter claim and boson is dead means nothing to me and should mean nothing to anyone.
1) If your town, mafia shoots ZBoson and hopes to kill you as well
2) If your mafia, you already were confident it was a fakeclaim and killed Zboson to somewhat confirm yourself.

The fact that you act as it somewhat confirms you as town anymore than anything else is concerning.

On September 14 2012 05:27 Shady Sands wrote:


Toad, look at Grav and tell me how you don't see a scum.

On September 14 2012 05:33 Toadesstern wrote:


acting confident in the thread as mafia and shooting the guy in the balls who claims to have a bomb on you are two very different things.
Again, yes I'm a bold mafia player in general but that? Risking everything when I'm totally fine (assuming I'm mafia) with just shooting someone else who did not claim to have a bomb on me?
You now know that Z-Boson is town because he flipped town but you think anyone would have considered lynching me after his post?
Even if both Boson and I survived I wouldn't even look bad because of that so there's not a single reason for me to take that gamble that could possibly lose my team (still assuming I'm mafia) the game just on the whim that I'm thinking the guy is fakeclaiming.

There's just no reason to shoot Boson from a mafia perspective if I am mafia. Not a single one that isn't overshadowed by massive drawbacks even if I considered it to be a fakeclaim while there is a shitton of reasoning for shooting Boson if I'm town.

Just stop it, go scumhunt somewhere else. You won't find something at my place.

On September 14 2012 05:32 grush57 wrote:

I think both are scum, but I'm more sure of a red flip from Mav

On September 14 2012 05:36 Shady Sands wrote:


I think MMT's continual harping on this subject is what he's using to substitute for actual scumhunting. He knows no one is going to ever lynch you, so his mislynching efforts will never see the light of day.

That being said though, I think it's better that he dies tomorrow. Today is a day for Gravan. What do you think about him?

On September 14 2012 05:36 Toadesstern wrote:

I very much think he's scum. I like my vote on Mementoss better for the moment though. If only for the reason that I no longer want to lynch Mementoss first.

On September 14 2012 05:42 Toadesstern wrote:


Yeah it's between Grav and Mav for me. Leaning on Grav right now.
Mementoss is not going to get lynched and I don't want him to get lynched right now, probably not even tomorrow.

Don't think a mafia would so violently tell everybody how I'm looking stupid when he in fact knows that I'm town. A mafia usually wants to be on the right side of things if possible without killing his allies and therefore I'd assume mafias to be the ones going easy on me or actually defending me in front of other people to look good later on. Now way I'm going to get him lynched :p

On September 14 2012 05:42 Toadesstern wrote:


Yeah it's between Grav and Mav for me. Leaning on Grav right now.
Mementoss is not going to get lynched and I don't want him to get lynched right now, probably not even tomorrow.

Don't think a mafia would so violently tell everybody how I'm looking stupid when he in fact knows that I'm town. A mafia usually wants to be on the right side of things if possible without killing his allies and therefore I'd assume mafias to be the ones going easy on me or actually defending me in front of other people to look good later on. Now way I'm going to get him lynched :p

On September 14 2012 05:33 Toadesstern wrote:


acting confident in the thread as mafia and shooting the guy in the balls who claims to have a bomb on you are two very different things.
Again, yes I'm a bold mafia player in general but that? Risking everything when I'm totally fine (assuming I'm mafia) with just shooting someone else who did not claim to have a bomb on me?
You now know that Z-Boson is town because he flipped town but you think anyone would have considered lynching me after his post?
Even if both Boson and I survived I wouldn't even look bad because of that so there's not a single reason for me to take that gamble that could possibly lose my team (still assuming I'm mafia) the game just on the whim that I'm thinking the guy is fakeclaiming.

There's just no reason to shoot Boson from a mafia perspective if I am mafia. Not a single one that isn't overshadowed by massive drawbacks even if I considered it to be a fakeclaim while there is a shitton of reasoning for shooting Boson if I'm town.

Just stop it, go scumhunt somewhere else. You won't find something at my place.

On September 14 2012 05:50 slOosh wrote:

So you are saying you think MMT is town now?

On September 14 2012 05:26 Shady Sands wrote:

You still didn't answer the question. How does that make Mav scum?

Also, look at Grav, and tell me you don't see a scum.

Today is for Grav. Tomorrow is for MMToss or maybe Mav, once I finish reading his filter. I am not switching my vote to anyone but Grav, and I hope everyone here understands that and can show this scumbastard the noose.

On September 14 2012 05:52 Mementoss wrote:


The bolded part is pretty hilarious consider this:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=325046

You and VE started bussing eachother very early when you were both looking pretty fine. Highly risky play is it not?

I'll drop it for the moment, but I think its important for people to know. For now I would like to get some good stuff out of you. Whats the best lynch for today and why, and do you have any other strong scum reads or cases to present?

On September 14 2012 05:52 Toadesstern wrote:

well I'm at least doubting his scuminess to a point that I want Grav and Mav lynched first.

On September 14 2012 05:33 Toadesstern wrote:
Just stop it, go scumhunt somewhere else. You won't find something at my place.

On September 14 2012 05:36 Shady Sands wrote:


I think MMT's continual harping on this subject is what he's using to substitute for actual scumhunting. He knows no one is going to ever lynch you, so his mislynching efforts will never see the light of day.

That being said though, I think it's better that he dies tomorrow. Today is a day for Gravan. What do you think about him?

On September 14 2012 05:57 slOosh wrote:

But your posting says otherwise.


This is a clear town read. You would never say this to scum.