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Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 06 2012 18:04 GMT
#207
My point is that I feel pretty good about hapa, but over committing on a town read could be bad.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 06 2012 19:59 GMT
#212
Given Synyster's most recent fluff and agree with hapa post, I am suspicious enough to go ahead and FOS Synyster.

YH should not be a d1 lynch, but he is someone to keep an eye on.

ps: replace elect, choose, get pmed godfather, you know what i mean.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#214
Synyster and then YH are most suspicious.

Like most players so far, Golbat hasn't done much to seem solidly town. Doesn't mean he's scum.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 06 2012 21:16 GMT
#215
What do you think in terms of Doc/DT strategy? As this is my first game of forum mafia, I wonder how they are typically targeted here.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 06 2012 21:29 GMT
#217
Sounds reasonable. I mean that doc heals X, DT checks Y, etc.

Who is on your suspicious list?
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 06 2012 21:57 GMT
#220
From what I can tell using the search function:

Neither Sideni or TolEranceNA have played a game of TL mafia before, nor have they posted beyond saying "/in." If they've forgotten about joining this game they will be modkilled no?
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 06 2012 21:59 GMT
#221
EBWOP: nor have they posted in this thread
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 06 2012 23:09 GMT
#226
Since Synyster and YourHarry are taken, I will make a case for Golbat

Golbat has made a number of fluff posts, with the only real material coming when he attacked my confusion about his role in the last game he played. The cases he claimed to be forming are not in evidence (yet). As it stands, Golbat might be a semi-lurker mafia.

However, Synyster remains my top suspect.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 07 2012 00:36 GMT
#239
Synyster apologizes for fluff... with more fluff.

YH: the whole point of being scum is to confuse the town. Being a confusing townie only makes people suspicious: as you no doubt have noticed.

iamperfection: other than YH's incompetence, who do you think is actually mafia?
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 07 2012 00:59 GMT
#244
Sideni: Restating a case made by someone else is not good for establishing town cred. Harry is erratic, but that doesn't mean he's scum.

So far you've suspected YH and Hapa. There are 3 scum, so who is the third?
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 07 2012 01:05 GMT
#248
On August 07 2012 10:02 Promethelax wrote:
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On August 07 2012 09:59 Lvdr wrote:
Sideni: Restating a case made by someone else is not good for establishing town cred. Harry is erratic, but that doesn't mean he's scum.

So far you've suspected YH and Hapa. There are 3 scum, so who is the third?


please don't start making connection theories without a single flip. We'll be so deep in WIFOM that we'll need gills to breathe.


I am not claiming a connection, I'm asking for sideni to make a unique case.
Restating another case while providing nothing of your own is potential-scum behavior.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 07 2012 01:19 GMT
#253
On August 07 2012 10:15 Shady Sands wrote:
Synystyr looks scummy to me. Here's why:

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I believe that not lynching players simply because they are active is a good way to go about things. You could be scum using that as an excuse to cover up. While I do see the benefit in lynching a lurker versus an active player, I do not believe this should be the sole reasoning on how we lynch someone.


What is he trying to say here? We should avoid lynching active players? Or do scum already know that they should be active? Or is there a benefit? Or isn't there? Is the wine in front of me?

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On August 07 2012 01:21 Synystyr wrote:
@Hapa

Don't be so quick to vote me after one post I was merely implying that activity is not indicative of alignment and shouldn't be taken into account in a case, yet.

@Dandel

My read on Golbat is that he's neutral leaning scum. Scum like to cause discord amongst the town, and there's really no need for attacks on reading comprehension without a good reason. He's just trying to stir shit up. He wants to lynch lurkers as well, which may be the start of a defense to as why he shouldn't be lynched d1.


Here, he doesn't say very much at all. First off, policy lynching lurkers is not because activity indicates alignment, it's because when town can lurk, then scum gets a free ride to lurk, too. Policy lynches are designed as punishment to "dry up the pond" for scumfish to swim around in.

Second, when he says that scum like to cause discord amongst the town, it's almost like he's painting anyone who comes out with an early case as a potential scum. Why would a town want to do that? Town benefits from discussion and active scumhunting, even to the point of arguments, if necessary.

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On August 07 2012 01:37 Synystyr wrote:
I'm just being cautious. Golbat hasn't been too productive as far as I can tell, which isn't a town move, so I'm leaning scum. It's still early so I'm not pushing for anything yet though.


Scum have to look like they're trying to catch scum, without committing to anything. Here, Synystyr does that, as well as basically priming Golbat for a lynch, without having to commit himself. This is anti-town play at best.

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On August 07 2012 03:43 Synystyr wrote:
On August 07 2012 01:43 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 07 2012 01:41 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 07 2012 01:28 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 07 2012 01:21 Synystyr wrote:
@Hapa

Don't be so quick to vote me after one post I was merely implying that activity is not indicative of alignment and shouldn't be taken into account in a case, yet.

@Dandel

My read on Golbat is that he's neutral leaning scum. Scum like to cause discord amongst the town, and there's really no need for attacks on reading comprehension without a good reason. He's just trying to stir shit up. He wants to lynch lurkers as well, which may be the start of a defense to as why he shouldn't be lynched d1.


I didn't vote you yet Synystyr, just an FOS is all. But what's with the passive finger-pointing? In the first post, you mention that "I could be active scum" trying to clear myself - what's the townie motive behind that?

Secondly, that reasoning on Golbat is terribad: he's trying to stir shit up and focus on lurkers (good townie behavior), and therefore he's setting up to defend himself and therefore he's scum?! Yeah ok buddy.

Well you could be scum. I don't think it's bad to point out that, just because something looks towny, it can't be scum-motivated too.
He did not actually attack you, or even imply to direct his post towards you. It seemed to me like he was talking more in general. Yet you're getting pretty defensive, pretty fast.

Synystyr, now that you're here, post some more plox.


I agree, from your perspective I could be mafia. However, I'm calling attention as to how Synyster decides to cast suspicion. His post literally says nothing, and it reads as a passive fingerpoint to me. As for my "defensiveness," I don't make any effort to defend myself - I'm simply pointing out scummy behavior, and this one just so happens to involve my name.


On the contrary, I feel quite safe going with my instinct that you are a townie. You ask all the right questions and cast good suspicion over everyone. I really do mean it when I say I'm just being cautious. You never know what could happen.


Scum try to buddy other players very aggressively in the early parts of the game. This is a classic scumslip.

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On August 07 2012 08:41 Synystyr wrote:
Let me assure you guys that I am indeed town! I apologize for the number of "fluff" posts that you guys say I am making. There is simply not much to go off this early in the game. I would move for a lurker policy lynch at this point in the game over any other active players unless they make me suspicious.

Golbat says he has some cases to post, so I'd like to hear what he has to say.


Wait a second: earlier Synystyr says that "activity is not indicative of alignment"; now, when people pressure him, he argues for a lurker policy lynch. This is the biggest slip in the thread so far.

In conclusion: town doesn't have to act like they're scumhunting without actually committing. Town doesn't have to try and buddy other players. Town doesn't have to self-consciously apologize for fluff posts and then immediately contradict their own post from 2 pages ago. There is no reason to do any of this... unless he's scum.

## Vote Synystyr


To add to Shady's case, Synyster offers no information of his own while saying he's waiting for golbat's cases. Scum hate making their own cases.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 07 2012 01:42 GMT
#265
Having reviewed iamperfection's posting from the beginning, he is another person that has contributed no unique analysis. He has posted on policy, attacked YH way more than is needed, and fluff. Directing discussion to another game doesn't look good. Talk about something other than lurkers and YH.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 07 2012 02:37 GMT
#272
What do you mean there are only 3 mafia? Why can't everyone be mafia!

In all seriousness, my FOS point to only 2: synyster and iamperfection

For the record, YH and golbat are likely townie reads in my opinion.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 07 2012 02:51 GMT
#275
I will still observe them (just like everyone) but Synyster and iamperfection are the ones I am confident enough to FOS.

Golbat is average suspicion, and YH is inscrutable.

Right now (and I reserve the right to change my mind when more posts are made) I think iamperfection would give us more information. If he flips red, YH looks much less suspicious. Hard to believe he would bus YH that hard D1.

Synyster is still a good lynch because of the cases brought so far. Unfortunately, because he has said basically nothing, the connections would be less obvious. Voting trends are always useful though.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 07 2012 03:03 GMT
#278
On August 07 2012 10:42 Lvdr wrote:
Having reviewed iamperfection's posting from the beginning, he is another person that has contributed no unique analysis. He has posted on policy, attacked YH way more than is needed, and fluff. Directing discussion to another game doesn't look good. Talk about something other than lurkers and YH.


From a scum point of view, YH is the perfect target to tunnel on because a mislynch would be defensible. YH has acted somewhat suspiciously, but is also attracting a lot of attention and will struggle to keep his cover if he really is mafia.

Otherwise, I invite everyone to filter iamperfection and look at how little content he has offered. He has commented on the D1 lynch policy, called out lurkers, and referenced another game of mafia. He has made no reads other than YH.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 07 2012 06:04 GMT
#288
I didn't flip-flop on golbat, I wrote the case because the more obvious ones were taken. At the end of the case I actually point my FOS at synyster.

My initial suspicion of YH has been almost universally shared. However, given the meta-game information that has come out and his prominence, YH seems more incompetent than sinister.

My generally widespread suspicion has been in order to elicit as much discussion as possible.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 07 2012 06:10 GMT
#289
Since Synyster and YourHarry are taken, I will make a case for Golbat

Golbat has made a number of fluff posts, with the only real material coming when he attacked my confusion about his role in the last game he played. The cases he claimed to be forming are not in evidence (yet). As it stands, Golbat might be a semi-lurker mafia.

However, Synyster remains my top suspect.


Like most players so far, Golbat hasn't done much to seem solidly town. Doesn't mean he's scum.


Golbat's main contribution has been noticing my early flub. That points to an being an active townie or a mafia jumping on an early mistake. Worth watching but not explicitly a suspect.


For the record.
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 07 2012 13:09 GMT
#293
I'm going camping so I won't be as active today. I'll have my phone and hopefully will still be able to read the thread and contribute to proceedings.

Just in case though

##VoteSynyster
Lvdr
Profile Joined August 2012
United States418 Posts
August 07 2012 21:02 GMT
#376
/in and didn't I say check yh?
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