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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 02:57 GMT
#1992
On July 20 2012 11:51 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 11:50 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 11:44 gonzaw wrote:
Hey Prob, I didn't see you talk about me at all since N1.
Do you still think I'm mafia?


I don't know, hence my silence.

Your night post seemed genuine and if you really were too busy you will be better today.

oh... I thought you were being silent about something else... You the one with all the questions.. How do you like my questions?


What questions? You haven't asked me anything. Yes, I am asking questions. Mainly because there are people who have not posted clearly, or posted at all. I am trying to get clear positions from people. Consider it a period of reconsideration.

I am not mafia and so I am not Chairman of the Board, but you have any specific questions, fire away.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 02:58 GMT
#1994
On July 20 2012 11:56 Chezinu wrote:
Are you scared prob? you know.. that I know your secret? Are you going to answer me?


No I'm not scared. You don't know my secret because I don't have a secret. Yes I will answer you.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 03:02 GMT
#1998
On July 20 2012 11:58 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 11:57 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 11:51 Chezinu wrote:
On July 20 2012 11:50 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 11:44 gonzaw wrote:
Hey Prob, I didn't see you talk about me at all since N1.
Do you still think I'm mafia?


I don't know, hence my silence.

Your night post seemed genuine and if you really were too busy you will be better today.

oh... I thought you were being silent about something else... You the one with all the questions.. How do you like my questions?


What questions? You haven't asked me anything. Yes, I am asking questions. Mainly because there are people who have not posted clearly, or posted at all. I am trying to get clear positions from people. Consider it a period of reconsideration.

I am not mafia and so I am not Chairman of the Board, but you have any specific questions, fire away.

Who do you work for? you Probably don't know...if you get what i mean.. muahahha


Whilst a nice rhetoical flourish, how exactly do I answer that question? I don't know who my bosses are. I don't know if I have bosses.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 03:16 GMT
#1999
On July 20 2012 12:01 Chezinu wrote:
ya know, mini mafia 2 was a pretty fun game.. but this is taking it to a whole new level!


OK I just skimmed that game and you were a detective. If you are implying that you are the same this game (you have of course claimed as such) with a check on me, then something is seriously whack. Chez, I know this isn't your style but can you be a little less obtuse? If you have a check on me than that is information we need to sort out.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 03:25 GMT
#2000
On July 20 2012 11:58 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 11:57 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 11:51 Chezinu wrote:
On July 20 2012 11:50 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 11:44 gonzaw wrote:
Hey Prob, I didn't see you talk about me at all since N1.
Do you still think I'm mafia?


I don't know, hence my silence.

Your night post seemed genuine and if you really were too busy you will be better today.

oh... I thought you were being silent about something else... You the one with all the questions.. How do you like my questions?


What questions? You haven't asked me anything. Yes, I am asking questions. Mainly because there are people who have not posted clearly, or posted at all. I am trying to get clear positions from people. Consider it a period of reconsideration.

I am not mafia and so I am not Chairman of the Board, but you have any specific questions, fire away.

Who do you work for? you Probably don't know...if you get what i mean.. muahahha


Okay I get it. Your interpretation is wrong, but I think I understand your role now. You're going through the motions aren't you?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 04:57 GMT
#2017
Hmmm VE, I think I understand Bugs's point about BH's block better now. It took a day but I see where he is coming from, thanks for the reiteration.

Can you explain how the mechanic's link to BH being scum? It seems like you are saying bugs got shot for a reason (his reads I presume) and that because he was suspicious of BH, his death implicates BH. Is that right?

BH claimed block before you right?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 05:23 GMT
#2046
Ok I get it now. For some reason my brain was focused on BH's response to the Chez nuke rather than his lack of response to the Kurumi nuke. If he has a role that can block nukes there is no reason for him not to block the ROL nuke. One it stops a mafia action. Two it "confirms" him as town. Three it protects a possible townie. When bugs pushed him for this he responds with
On July 17 2012 12:35 Blazinghand wrote:
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On July 17 2012 12:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
Well, if he were town, he would have used his block power to block Kurumi from nuking RoL, since Kurumi's nuke was mod-confirmed BEFORE Chezinu used ##nuke in the thread.

Kurumi being scum doesn't mean RoL is town. Even if Kurumi is one of the managers, he still has very little idea who he's actually shooting, and RoL isn't exactly captain mctownerson to begin with.

Note he doesn't say RoL is scum, just that he can't be sure he is town. In other words he thought about this action and chose not to save RoL on the off chance that Kurumi got it wrong.

BH was given a golden opportunity to "prove" his alignment by blocking the Kurumi nuke but he didn't. This would have made sense from both alignment's point of view because he could not be sure that RoL wasn't scum. So if he actually had the block ability he could use it to potentially save a buddy and confirm himself. This makes me think he doesn't have the role. Which means this
On July 17 2012 12:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:55 Probulous wrote:
BH do you actually have a blocking ability?Still trying to get my head around this.

Yes. My role is 1-shot day blocker.

is a lie.

So we follow in bugs' footsteps
On July 17 2012 12:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 12:31 Probulous wrote:
@Bugs

Do we even know if there is a block ability?

we don't, but why would BH use ##block unless he had that ability or that he took the nuke seriously?
If he's lying about having a block then he's scum, if he's not lying it doesn't change anything.

My apologies bugs. I didn't understand the crux of your case yesterdayhopefully we can rectify that.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 05:27 GMT
#2052
On July 20 2012 14:22 Chezinu wrote:
can anyone here guess my abilities?


You can check the Role Name of people.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 05:31 GMT
#2054
On July 20 2012 14:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
OMG SANDROBA IS SCUM


It's possible. His choice of Kurumi struck me as odd because of all people playing here, Kurumi might just follow the message instructions without thinking. Of course, that is the idea but it does mean that Krumui could just not have thought of the implications of responding in the way he/she/it (which is it?) did. Meaning it is not alignment indicative.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 05:47 GMT
#2072
On July 20 2012 14:32 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 14:27 Probulous wrote:
On July 20 2012 14:22 Chezinu wrote:
can anyone here guess my abilities?


You can check the Role Name of people.

So, are you saying that you are the chairman of the board? PS: see my comment to rastbanwhatever about how to understand the question.


Not quite. Promotion seems a long way off and I haven't received the call. I wish I had minions, I'd make them crown me king and carry me through the office on their shoulders. But right now I am just a regular worker bee, carrying others around.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 05:56 GMT
#2078
It won't get buried. My brain hurts too. This Chez stuff is really useful though. He may be cryptic, but all good detectives are.

Do we have a list of claimed messages?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 05:59 GMT
#2079
On July 20 2012 14:44 Blazinghand wrote:
Wait so did Chez message me? or was that some other guy? Sandro says it wasn't him.


Are you claiming that you got messaged?

Post it please.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 06:04 GMT
#2081
Ok maybe I am getting wild here, but Chez...

Are you the Censor?

We know you can send messages. We know you are the Director of Communications. Can you read other people's messages?

It's crazy, I know but there is no harm in asking right?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 06:28 GMT
#2094
Hmmm but is there anyone with that skill?

Chez, I assume your memory hasn't changed then?
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 06:38 GMT
#2097
On July 20 2012 15:31 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 15:28 Probulous wrote:
Hmmm but is there anyone with that skill?

Chez, I assume your memory hasn't changed then?

Is this about the nuke only being half true and about chezinu only being half chezinu?


It's about Palmar
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 20 2012 06:46 GMT
#2099
Ok guys, it is clock off time. Weekend is calling.

I am going to be busy as hell but will try and post when I can.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 21 2012 00:14 GMT
#2394
Just skimmed thread. Syllo, you asked about my read on Foolishness.

I had him as town for his read on you until you stopped calling me scum because of my read. But my thinking really changed with his response to bugs after the no lynch. Blaming bugs for that given his actions was bound to receive a reaction. Then his case on BM was meh to say the least. He may have been right but it wasn't what I was expecting. As Sloosh said, BM of all people? He knew he was going to be under pressure but his target for analysis is someone nobody was really going to take seriously (sorry BM but that was my opinion). The thing is, the case against Fool essentially boiled down to not caring so I looked for other inconsistencies.

If you want more detail, I'll post it when I get to a computer.

From phone
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 21 2012 00:17 GMT
#2397
On July 21 2012 09:12 syllogism wrote:
How come TL mafia always has people ruining the games on purpose and yet these people always get welcomed back into games

Well given his actions after that at least he tried to make amends.

Given his flip, he obviously made a mistake so there is no need to get shitty at him. For what it is worth, I appreciate your post PM play Kurumi. I will take a closer look.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 21 2012 00:18 GMT
#2398
On July 21 2012 09:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
I like grapes. Do you want to buy a kitty?

I have no grapes but I do have silverware. Is the kitty soft?

:p
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 21 2012 00:24 GMT
#2406
On July 21 2012 09:20 Chezinu wrote:
The CEO will most likely choose from two suggested hits. The suggested hit by the chairman of the board or the chairman of marketing. If you are on the good side of both of these, you want have to suffer the chance of getting killed. If both the chairman of marketing and chairman of the board choose the same person.. then that person is going to die..

Um does the CEO know who suggests what?

Fro my reading he just would just get a compiled list. Unless there is a secret communication in thread for scum to list who their target is...
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
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