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On June 26 2012 18:36 supersoft wrote: :------( i have to /out have to deal with a lot of work first :-o Work! Bah! | ||
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On June 29 2012 08:02 Acrofales wrote: Binary. Using just your hands gets you up to 1024, which is more than enough! No one count to the number four or 128 using binary hands. Also its hard to put you fourth finger up by itself. | ||
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On June 29 2012 22:55 EchelonTee wrote: Mandalor in, I'm replacement still. No youre in after suki outed I think. | ||
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On June 30 2012 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote: Don't worry everybody I'm tooooooooooooooooooown!!!!!!! And I'm also horribly unafraid, and incredibly willing to post, share reads and FIND EFFING SCUM! Just so we're on the same D1 page, I'm in favor of lurker lynches if we lack a scummy candidate, but my preference is to lynch scum every time. So let's just focus on finding scum, and hopefully we won't HAVE any lurkers to even worry about! Yeah? YEAH!!! WOOOOOOOO FOR TOWN!!! Lynching a lurker should be a D1 only policy. Otherwise we're playing too much into the hands of mafia in terms of odds. | ||
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On June 30 2012 10:07 VisceraEyes wrote: BKE, that sounded like a radio-show call-in. "Yeah, I've got this FRIEND, okay? NOT ME, IT'S A FRIEND! Anyway..." lol For my part, I'm going to be treating new players the same way I'd be treating anyone else - I'm going to examine their posts, address any concerns I have with their reasoning/logic, and draw a conclusion about their intentions based on how/if they answer. Obviously it's going to be harder than discerning the intentions of people who "should know better" or whatever, but that's all we can really do. You still think I'm a newbie  @Kurumi I know spam is bad, but we should put as many posts as we need to prove our point. You dont need to go shooting down conversation, by suggesting a minimal post policy. Just bringing up the idea starts off on a "maybe I should post until I have more stuff" attitude. | ||
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On June 30 2012 10:09 layabout wrote: So you suggest that we identify a group of players and then hold them to a lower standard than we would for a typical player? Are you aware of how low those standards are already? Can you give specific examples? Ottox in 53# Mafia. He was overwhelmed as a newbie and we tunneled on him too hard. Im suggesting more that the intent of the posts of these players is a more accurate representation of their alignment. Different standard. | ||
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On June 30 2012 10:21 s0Lstice wrote: Hello folks. I'll be joining the ranks of the scum hunters once again (5th time in a row!). This is my first large game, so it's going to be an adjustment...but one I'm capable of making. Being that it's friday night I will be scarce, but I'll be active on saturday, and I'm sure I'll have plenty of material to analyze. Stay tuned. Saying that this is your 5th time in a row being town-aligned has the undercurrent of convincing us you are town in this game, and you dodge posting responsibility by it being a Friday. This is a scummy post to start out with. | ||
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On June 30 2012 10:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Waitwaitwait. LMAO Okay, hold up. First of all, My very first post opened with "Hi I'm town". Not to mention the fact that I just explained why loads of posting is going to be detrimental for town (which could be construed as 'dodging posting responsibility'). Now, s0Lstice is relatively new, and you're the one who posted .......I'm kinda having a hard time accepting that you don't have an agenda considering all these factors. FoS: BKE You better watch your P's and Q's buster. You're now on my radar and trust me...no one likes being there. My reply to you was that I wasn't newb. How many games have I played?: 5. Clearly we have a difference in definition for experienced players. I dont see how one can consolidate a post(as your post says) without losing content. ie if I have three facts and I post them in one big post, does that really save more space than three smaller posts? | ||
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On June 30 2012 14:23 casualman wrote: I love to bandwagon. Being a newb, I can read nothing from these posts and will blindly trust in authority figures. Woohoo! ##Vote BroodKingEXE I cant think of a town reason to post this batshit insane. Sarcasm? Until you answer: ##Vote: casualman | ||
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At least in my perspective so if I try to hide behind that I should be lynched. | ||
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Does this mean give them leway? Hell No! | ||
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On July 01 2012 02:09 ShiaoPi wrote: Excuse me but whre did you say that solstice is not a newb? Looked through your filter, found nothing. Have you actually considered the possibility that he is in fact busy and so he dropped by with that post to say he is sorry in advance? Might be motivation to do just that, also check his other games, his opening is pretty similar to the games he has played and judging from that single post that he could be scum does not convince me. I agree on your reasoning on Casual, he is on my radar as well. I do not understand though what your "noobishness" has anything to do with the issue at hand. Nobody accused you of hiding behind noobishness so why bring it up? Until now your defense has been: -I said solstice is not newb (no idea where that comes from...) -I am not scum, since I made policy talk and two accusations. Not strong to be honest. Everyone can make policytalk and the two accusation are kind of easy, solstice is gone for a while and casualman went retard/wtf-mode. Right now I am tending on scum on you, so that will make my FoS into a vote: BroodkingEXE Out of context dude. It doesnt make sense for me as scum to draw attention to myself as scum, look st where its got me. I think its implied: I think Im not a newb. BKE: 5 games played Solstice: 5 games played So hes not a newb. | ||
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On July 01 2012 02:15 s0Lstice wrote: Happy Saturday BKE: I don't want to lynch him today. To me he has been clear in saying that he wants us all to be careful in how we judge newbies. This is not the same thing as saying don't judge newbies. More, his definition of newbie is different. Apparently with 4 games played, I am not a newbie. I don't agree, but it's his opinion and he's welcome to it. He looked at my first post and casualman's vote post and did not see town intent. It doesn't matter if you agree with him, but he is following his own rules in my eyes. Acrofales: I find it funny that you are all over Vivax for not reading the thread. If you had done a little reading yourself (see: his past games) you'd already have a pretty good idea of what Vivax is in this game. Casualman: Do not want to lynch. I agree with ET in that it's more likely he is casual town. Someone said in a post-game of one of my previous games, quoting Ver, that mafia is a game of paradoxes. The most obvious, off-the-wall, anti-town play is probably coming from a townie. I'm not prepared to totally clear him based on this, but it gives me a bad feeling about lynching him. Kurumi: Annoying, not scum. This may change, but it's the read I have now. Behind the in-character writing style is pro-town intent. Here's who I would like to lynch today mKmKmK: me being away means the case has already been made. I don't like how he thinks Kurumi is scum without providing reasons. I don't like the kleenex strength pressure he has been applying, first to NoSmurfHere, then to VE. Katina: He (she?) hasn't really been mentioned yet, but in one post, she leads off her suspicion of BKE with the fact that VE is suspicious of him so it must be legit. She parrots the case, votes, walks away, and hasn't been heard from since. BM's play in 53# was insane but he was scum. Its true that it draws attention to yourself, but its like lurking: it prevents you from being examined, forcing the town to play with odds as opposed to making an informed desicion. | ||
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On July 01 2012 05:13 drwiggl3s wrote: Ok since some people asked, here's what I'm thinking. I agree that BKEXE's initial posts were a tad scummy. But what gave it away to me was that after casualman voted for him, both Mattchew and BKEXE immediately returned the favour and voted for casualman to be lynched. Both without any explanation other than saying "Wtf is this". And then later, both went MIA for quite a while instead of explaining their votes or trying to defend BKEXE. You may ask why would casualman throw his vote at BKEXE so early. It could be he is either just noob, or it could be he read BKEXE as scum (like many people are now) but just before a lot of people had the chance to. As for other players: I find many people are soft defending BKEXE and in their posts trying to put suspicion onto others (with little reason). I see these as scummy moves. If you are going to place your vote on me you need more evidence than that. Firstly you arent explaining why the Mattchew is scummy and just buddy us even though others have suspicions as well. Second how much further can I explain the vot for casual? Insaneness is a good way for scum to hide, as it prevents us from getting a good read; a townie helps the town with sane posting. | ||
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On July 01 2012 07:00 Katina wrote: Okay, I just finished reading through the thread. Casualman has caught my attenion with his phase 2 talk as he called his self vote. I'm curious to see more from him and find out what he has to say at a later. I still find BKE suspicious for the reasons that have been stated. He seems more interested in defending his lack of noobiness then helping the town. Do you know why I have been defending my experience? Because if solstice and I have played an equal amount of games I have not created a case on a newb. Isn't that the bulk of the accusation against me? | ||
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Im not talking about your case, the majority of the town has been criticizing me for accusing newbies after the policy. Solstices OP in my opinion could have been a scum one. I looked at it from a town intent POV and a more direct post would have made sense. There's nothing wrong with pointing that out. | ||
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Votecount: VisceraEyes: mKmKmK(2): NoSmurfHere, rastaban BroodKEXE(4): Katina, Bill Murray(1): Acrofales Acrofales(1): Bill Murray casualman(3): Mattchew, BroodKingEXE, casualman | ||
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On July 01 2012 08:25 Bill Murray wrote: Acrofales FoS on BKX is fishy as fuck if BKX flips scum, will you all listen to me on acrofales? It's a JEEP tell for a FoS with a vote on someone else Acrofales did that, lets test BKX ##Unvote ##Vote: BKX Youre voting for me because Acro is trying to distance himself from me right? Then vote for Acro if youre more sure on him! | ||
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On July 01 2012 10:21 Mandalor wrote: sure. On Day1, I feel like there's only two good options for town. a) kill a lurker b) kill a guy that causes trouble just hours into the game I don't like option a). Playing as mafia is fun. You hang around in a chat channel and make your plans. You're probably more busy with the chat than writing in the thread, but still... you're less likely to lurk. If the mafia is smart, they will have a couple of lurkers, but definitely not the majority so the odds of killing a town lurker is a lot higher on day1. BKE qualifies for option b). Whether or not he's mafia, I personally don't like people in my game that use words like "scummy" judging people's first post in the game. Noone has posted enough in this game that I could possibly have built a good enough opinion on them, but apparently he can do that. I'm not even going to address his newbie-theory. I'm not saying I'm sure about BKE whatsoever, but he's our best option in my book. Just have to point out that lurkers in day 1 will be lurkers for the rest of the time so the odds dont change. Your evidence you use for voting for me isn't very good. Firstly, a scummy post is a post with intent nonetheless, sure they can be strange, but first impressions mean a lot and if I see something that potential could be scummy I'll call it. Second, obviously others have posted cases (even a case against me), so even if you aren't ready, it doesn't mean there is not enough evidence out there to make an accusation. | ||
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On June 30 2012 13:39 Katina wrote: Hi! I'm here! Okay so far looking at the thread I agree with the FOS that has been pointed towards BroodKingEXE. If he's on VE's radar already that it's worth looking at. I read through BKE's filter and noticed that he spends a lot of time talking about noobs and what it means to be a noob, and policy lynching lurkers day one. The stuff he says is something anyone can say and it appears as if he's just trying to blend in. I'm going to put my vote on him for now. ##Vote BroodKingEXE The justification of Kat voting for me is: VE and Im trying to blend in. Hiding behind VE’s accusation is a way for her when the vote goes bad and make herself look better to anybody else who views VE as a likely town. Im trying to blend in? Lots of other people are blending in, I got a list of lurkers in my notes to prove it. If I was Mafia wouldn’t it make more sense to wait and post later or not at all to blend in? Next Post Falls in with the Casual and BKE crowd interestingly the only two major candidates up at the time. On July 01 2012 09:36 Katina wrote: Because trends are trendy! So far you have accused mkmk of being scum and defending BKE. What are your reasonings to thinking that BKE is town? Do you have any other reads? Yo, what?! You want us to continue a losing trend? You’re basically saying you support Day1 bandwagons on townies. So far you have provided zip evidence for you vote for me, much less info on the rest of the town. | ||
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On July 01 2012 14:14 MajuGarzett wrote: I phrased that badly. I meant Brood should vote for someone other than casualman since by voting for casual he really doesn't give any information since casual seems to be messing around. Sorry for the poor wording. Brood has been weird in the sense that he seems scummy. Casualman is weird in the sense that he hasn't done shit. I have put up a FoS on Katina as a side option. Casual's play is scummy to me (a move so insane it makes us think he is town), so Im going to keep my vote on him. Not to say that I dont have suspicions on others... | ||
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On July 01 2012 15:46 Mattchew wrote: Adam, what do you make of this post. And I like your thoughts on Mandalor And your thoughts on anyone? | ||
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On July 01 2012 08:24 Twelve wrote: This reads as scum to me. Reorganizing public information and posting it as a friendly town helping message, even though in reality it offers very little information. I hear "Hey guys, scum would never post a vote count where they are losing! Clearly BKE just has the town's best interests at heart!" On a side note though, what reasons would there be for casualman to vote for himself if he were town? Are you going to ninja vote me for posting a votecount? You got to be kidding me, own up to your vote and post it in the thread dude. Or are you a scum trying to jump the wagon unnoticed? | ||
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On July 02 2012 01:31 Katina wrote: Okay, let's get some clarification here: I'm not hiding behind anything. I am ready to take full responisbility for my actions if things go wrong. I have played in enough games with VE to get a good town read on him so far this game. Until I see something that proves my read on him wrong. No it wouldn't make sense to do so. So when things go wrong you can hide behind the fact that you have posts and are trying to "help" the town. Mafia do may different things from attacking each other in thread to lurking to leading the town. No I don't want to continue a losing trend. Don't take what I'm saying out of context. It was clearly sarcasm. I provide as much evidence as I can get day one. I can add attacking your attacker to the list of evidence as well. If there is something you wish to no then please feel free to ask. I will tell you whatever you want to know. I have been busy this weekend and I'm trying my best to get in and post when I can. I'm not sheeping VE. I found what he had to say about BKE was interesting. After looking over his filter for myself I got suspicious and posted against him. I think that agreeing with another player is a bad reason to think someone is suspicious. You haven't posted against him, I have a problem with you using his suspicion to justify your vote. If you're busy this weekend fine, but skimming over posts and making a hasty decisions is a great way for bandwagons to get rolling. One question, now that I am not blending in, what continues to make me scum in your eyes? | ||
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On June 30 2012 15:31 Twelve wrote: My initial thoughts are to be suspicious of Kurumi. He takes three posts to say very little, seeming to want to contribute without actually offering anything. I also agree that BroodKingEXE is suspicious for the same reasons, a long ranting post on a topic that he didn't seemed concerned about before the game started. I'm going to read the thread a bit more... just my initial thoughts. Does it matter what I was interested in before game? I wasn't scum or townie before the game, so it wouldn't reveal anything about more alignment. On July 01 2012 08:24 Twelve wrote: This reads as scum to me. Reorganizing public information and posting it as a friendly town helping message, even though in reality it offers very little information. I hear "Hey guys, scum would never post a vote count where they are losing! Clearly BKE just has the town's best interests at heart!" On a side note though, what reasons would there be for casualman to vote for himself if he were town? Your going to vote for me for posting a votecount? Funny how you ninja vote right after it, maybe you saw the count and thought you could get away with it while everyone was using it to get a gauge on the accusations. A vote is a powerful indicator of whether you are scum or not, a townie doesn't need to hide it as it reveals their townieness. | ||
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On July 02 2012 04:17 Mattchew wrote: Mattchew's People that need to die and why list 1. Casualman Has literally posted nothing to help town. See's VE vote himself and decides to do the same. I think this is a newb scum trying to emulate troll townie actions (that are easy to copy) so that he tries to get town cred. 2. Twelve Blatant contradiction in his first posts. Says he is all for Band wagon hatred, then jumps on the 2 bandwagons forming at that time (Kurumi and BKexe) + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2012 15:31 Twelve wrote: My initial thoughts are to be suspicious of Kurumi. He takes three posts to say very little, seeming to want to contribute without actually offering anything. I also agree that BroodKingEXE is suspicious for the same reasons, a long ranting post on a topic that he didn't seemed concerned about before the game started. I'm going to read the thread a bit more... just my initial thoughts. Follow this with his next 2 posts, the first with quite possibly the worst reasoning for a vote ever (read completely forced reasoning to try and continue a bandwagon), and then a post trying to be cutesy and buddying with the thread saying "don't take it personally" yuck. + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 08:24 Twelve wrote: This reads as scum to me. Reorganizing public information and posting it as a friendly town helping message, even though in reality it offers very little information. I hear "Hey guys, scum would never post a vote count where they are losing! Clearly BKE just has the town's best interests at heart!" On a side note though, what reasons would there be for casualman to vote for himself if he were town? On July 01 2012 17:12 Twelve wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 16:07 BroodKingEXE wrote: Are you going to ninja vote me for posting a votecount? You got to be kidding me, own up to your vote and post it in the thread dude. Or are you a scum trying to jump the wagon unnoticed? Not sure that ninja voting is against the rules, but just so we can stay friends: ##vote: BKX I made my case against you, not really trying to hide anything. The current "bandwagon" against you is merely logical, nothing personal ^^ The #1 issue I have with these two reads that I can't seem to get over in my head is where Twelve calls out casualman. I can't tell if this is an act of distancing (which on day 1 would be pretty bold if they are both actually newb scum) or if they are opposite alignments.. I would like to hear opinions on this. 3. Mandalor First post of the game says he hasn't read, but still votes BKE. Cool, I like being scum and trying to blend in by voting the popular candidate too.+ Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote: ##VOTE: BKE I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow. Second post, he claims to have caught up, but offers literally no reason for his vote which he still agrees with. Hi scum trying not to be accountable for reads and reasons! + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote: I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early. I wont post his whole filter, but he then goes onto explain that he voted and is voting BKE cause he causes trouble for the town early on. Is this the fault of BKE or the fault of those creating the shitstorm around him with little to no reasoning? Voting for someone because they are being highlighted in the thread and because a lot of people yell "he's scum" at him is terrible reasoning. He also says "I ignored the post-analysis option, because - and I repeat - this is Day1. I barely have a case for BKE, but I have to vote." which just encourages more people to vote ignorantly without reason. 4. Bill Murray A. He's Bill Murray. B. More importantly He's Bill Murray. Letting this guy live past day 3 is the worst thing town can do in any game. 5. drwiggl3s His entire filter is a ninja vote on BKE, and then his "reasoning" which has to be completely forced out of him. This shows me he is trying to hide his thoughts from the thread especially as noob scum. I find his contradiction in his first post of substance hysterical as well. He defends casualman for voting BKE with no reason, but then calls out everyone not voting BKE with little or no reason as scummy. + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2012 18:06 drwiggl3s wrote: ##Vote BroodKingEXE On July 01 2012 05:13 drwiggl3s wrote: Ok since some people asked, here's what I'm thinking. I agree that BKEXE's initial posts were a tad scummy. But what gave it away to me was that after casualman voted for him, both Mattchew and BKEXE immediately returned the favour and voted for casualman to be lynched. Both without any explanation other than saying "Wtf is this". And then later, both went MIA for quite a while instead of explaining their votes or trying to defend BKEXE. You may ask why would casualman throw his vote at BKEXE so early. It could be he is either just noob, or it could be he read BKEXE as scum (like many people are now) but just before a lot of people had the chance to. As for other players: I find many people are soft defending BKEXE and in their posts trying to put suspicion onto others (with little reason). I see these as scummy moves. He didn't call out casual directly. Look at the way he phrased the call out. It was a question, which means he was searching for confirmation before pushing the statement. Since the town didn't really get on casual, he jumped on my wagon. | ||
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On July 02 2012 04:59 Twelve wrote: + Show Spoiler + He didn't call out casual directly. Look at the way he phrased the call out. It was a question, which means he was searching for confirmation before pushing the statement. Since the town didn't really get on casual, he jumped on my wagon. Incorrect sir, even if casualman is scum, he doesn't appear to be smart enough to really pose too much of a threat and doesn't really seem worth a day 1 lynch. Again there is no reason that anyone would vote for themselves as town, and no one has really tried to defend that vote, just make accusations against the people that notice it? I don't understand. If there is a legitmate reason town would vote for themselves, please, change my mind.[/QUOTE] In Area 53, we made the same mistake of not lynching an obvious scum and paid for it. Wasted days bouncing around lynching townies looking for the elusive hiders when we had a Power scum right there. Casual could be playing this same way (making it so obvious we save him for later). | ||
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On July 02 2012 04:59 Twelve wrote: + Show Spoiler + He didn't call out casual directly. Look at the way he phrased the call out. It was a question, which means he was searching for confirmation before pushing the statement. Since the town didn't really get on casual, he jumped on my wagon. Incorrect sir, even if casualman is scum, he doesn't appear to be smart enough to really pose too much of a threat and doesn't really seem worth a day 1 lynch. Again there is no reason that anyone would vote for themselves as town, and no one has really tried to defend that vote, just make accusations against the people that notice it? I don't understand. If there is a legitmate reason town would vote for themselves, please, change my mind. In Area 53, we made the same mistake of not lynching an obvious scum and paid for it. Wasted days bouncing around lynching townies looking for the elusive hiders when we had a Power scum right there. Casual could be playing this same way (making it so obvious we save him for later).[/QUOTE] | ||
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Dont spam up the thread with meaningless accusations. Post your reads or die. | ||
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On July 02 2012 06:19 Mandalor wrote: You left my third post out and decided to summarize and add some nice flavor to it. You know, the whole voting for someone because he was highlighted yadda yadda. I never said or implied any of that. I gave my reasoning in my third post. And you repeat that I voted for BKE with no reason. It's right there. It's fine that you think I'm scum, but you're not helping town by putting words in my mouth. You just join the people that have a case against me and add some lies to it. That's nice, I think I did this in mafia 3. I gave my reasons in post 3. Nothing to add, really. Here's a link to my filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514&user=2074 And I disputed this reason in this Post. | ||
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On July 01 2012 22:44 austinmcc wrote: However, I'd love for him to clarify his first post, given all this discussion. Broodking, you say that you don't consider those with 4 or 5 games newbies. The rest of the players seem to disagree, and I know that I do (no more newbie games allowed =/= not a newbie in my mind). IF you accept a much more broad definition of noob, like the thread seems to want, would you alter your first post? Should people with something like 4-8 games be treated like the noobs in your post, or treated like more seasoned players? No I wouldn't alter my first post, because then I know that people are still not as confident about there actions as town. Not as confident = not as strong cases, which means we need to identify whether a said case was developed from haste or scumminess. I still think 4-8 games should be enough to get a sense of who you are in a game and what strengths and weaknesses you bring to the town. | ||
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On July 02 2012 09:44 ghost_403 wrote: Fine. If you guys won't tell me who to vote for, I'll vote for the guy in the lead. ##vote:foxtrotter hmph. Ghost's day one vote is very strange, fifteen mintutes before this vote he was bouncing off the wall looking for a person to tell him who to vote for (posts look for the ghost ones). His explanation of his vote leads me to believe he was a scum trying to act innocent/running out of time, instead of spending the fifteen minutes to skim through the lynch candidate's filters as a townie would. Maybe he used his town list to pick Fox O.O On July 02 2012 09:57 ghost_403 wrote: I got a better idea. I could ask the people who started this bandwagon to see if they could actually give me a good reason for lynching a (probably town) newb. The guy has a filter that is four posts long. FOUR. The guy disappeared eight pages ago, and suddenly, it's a good idea to lynch him? That's completely absurd. Unfortunately, it's too late for me to inject any reason into this thread, and save this scrubs life, so I'm going to let the town lynch him. Then, tomorrow, I'm going to go through the last 34 pages and find out exactly why he was lynched. P.S.: The right answer to the question that I asked you above was "Foxtrotter, because he's scum". He then turns on the leaders of the vote asking for a reason why they picked Fox. He clearly picked him for no reason, yet turns around and tries to get the rest of the wagoners lynched. That's about the bulk of anything close to substantial he's even posted the rest are useless one-liners. | ||
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On July 03 2012 09:47 ghost_403 wrote: @NoSmurfHere: So what are your thoughts on ET? Stop asking questions about ET, if you suspect him post a case. Asking people about ET is a way for you to gauge suspicion and push a vote if it comes to it. Your scuminess just shot through the roof on my radar. ##Vote: ghost_403 | ||
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On another note Rastaban's talk about blues got him killed by the mafia. Classic blue behavior. | ||
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WTF! Im going to nominate this for the biggest WTF moment. I Posted the OP, voted and came back and saw this, in under 20 secs! Naw, but what have you done all game. | ||
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On July 02 2012 20:04 Hyaach wrote: I wanted BKE to contribute before i slept. When i came back, it was 7.30 am i had to rush off. I glanced the thread and saw people i have town read on are actually wishy washy about BKE lynch. My vote on mKmK was a pressure vote and there was zero response. So i took the best way out, lynch the next proposed target. D1 has ended. You know how to play D2 right? And is D1 evidence different from D2? This post suggests you bandwagoned this vote for the best way out. Sound like something scum would say. | ||
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On July 03 2012 12:18 Hyaach wrote: yes i bandwagoned for the best way out. I could have very well left my vote on mkmk and not give a damn but i didnt. i help town get what seemed to be the better lynch back then. The better lynch in terms of what? You had nothing to back up your vote. The underlined part gives you no credit whatsoever, leaving your vote on either of us does diddly squat for the town cause you didn't put much in terms of info. You obviously didn't give a damn if you were thinking about a good way out for yourself. | ||
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On July 03 2012 12:32 Hyaach wrote: I've actually stayed out of the mud sling last night and maintain a clear view. If you want a case, I'll do one. Then post! You and ghost jeez.... | ||
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On July 03 2012 23:25 Mattchew wrote: she's playing more like here (jubjub mafia) then here (MTG Mafia) No in MTG she skims over the top of posts labeling them good or bad, as opposed to drawing strat behind it in jub jub. Reasoning? Main reads: Hyaach (you still aren't doing much) and Katina. | ||
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12: Mid level scum player, made a post before disapearing about how he was gonna get killed by the mafia. Said it about three times, could just be me but it sounds like he may have been trying to draw a Doctor. Im against thinking a blue would do this because its just a really obvious way to draw attetion. Mafia have more flexibility given they have five members left. Austin: Need to read up on him his posting style's changed abit. | ||
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On July 04 2012 05:40 Kurumi wrote: I might or might not be dangerous. You know who the | ||
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On July 03 2012 22:52 Hyaach wrote: Katina's filter auto explains herself. ShaoPi's filter are easy to make. Mattchew's list has most turn out town and one turned out ringleader. After his initial meta push on BM, he never went back to discuss BM's play. Spreads FoS over everyone, granted, they were all making bad post but so was BM. And his response to nosmurfhere's list was kinda odd. quoting it 3 times to make a point? VE may be town but I don't get how he see Katina as town too. Then he went on to say nosmurfhere looks scummy to discredit his list. Your only post regarding your reads list. It doesn't provide any info besides your reads. I want to know why you think these people are scummy. You're just stating stuff there is nothing behind any of your posts. What about D1 interactions? If you sat out on D1 you should have plenty of info to give on those: spill. Your holding back or your lying about stuff. | ||
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On July 04 2012 12:59 Twelve wrote: I think that its important to note that a strong scum lynch is worth way more then a strong information lynch at this point, bringing the mafia KP down one Who are you suggesting is the strong scum lynch and the current info lynch? | ||
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On July 04 2012 15:15 Twelve wrote: I'm still thinking on this. I think casualman probably still our most likely scum lynch. I'll get back to you tomorrow morning on the info lynch. No way you have enough info to lynch casual over anyone else, he is a troll and thus unreadable in the scope of insanity. Unless you post a good case about either of yoru canidates I'm going to vote for you in the morning. | ||
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On July 05 2012 10:14 Hyaach wrote: what was this shennigan. i was here the whole time and i hane no idea why people were jumping so hard on ey lynch. he was afk thus his meta was off. i read that as a bad reason for ppl to lynch him off. gonna see the list when i get home and do some reviewing. Here the whole time! A townie would have jumped in and stopped the switch. You are going down dude. | ||
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On July 05 2012 09:30 austinmcc wrote: Wait what...I didn't see this last bit of stuff. Are people seriously switching of 12 to ET? Why the surprise? You should be happy with an ET lynch. In fact you pushed against a 12 lynch in order for another lynch (I assume ET). On another note, I feel Vivax was the person who started the idea and austin was the person that pulled it through. Based off my previous suspicions and the way the votes went down, I'd say Vivax was most likely to be scum. He pushed ET for a while but never had the confidence to put a vote in. Although he was the first to put in a vote he was pretty hesitant about it until the was more confirmation in the thread. Vivax's post on how info could be drawn makes more sense to kill twelve. | ||
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@Vivax and Acro please post why exactly you thought ET was a better lynch than twelve? Personally, I feel both your cases against Twelve were much stronger, which is making you redder in my eyes. | ||
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On July 07 2012 09:27 ghost_403 wrote: -_- I don't know what to make of that. brb, reading hyaach's filter. Side note, if he is in fact the DT, i see no reason to doubt his claims. Scum Katina makes sense, and I doubt there are two GFs in this game. It would explain why he refused to push me. That explains alot actually, from a town or scum POV he should have been fighting back, but he was very passive about it. I totally buy this. | ||
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On July 07 2012 10:32 Twelve wrote: Alright I've read through Hyaach and Katina's filters and I don't see why you are trusting Hyaach over Katina. I had a strong town read on Katina, but after rereading, I realised it was because she defends me from lynches, but its always from one townie to another, so maybe she was exploiting knowing my alliance and trying to trick me into being an ally? Any thoughts? I'm feeling a but lost, but am willing to change my vote. Good god Hyaach if you are lieing about BKE....... Lynching Twelve at this point should be a for sure. This post seeks to softly defend Kat while keep Twelve from sticking his neck out. He says to trust Hyaach, yet accuses him of lying for one. ##Vote: Twelve | ||
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On July 08 2012 12:39 Mattchew wrote: Bke it's night do you read at all? I can pre-vote right? | ||
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On July 09 2012 01:29 Twelve wrote: Sorry man, but you are misreading that. I said I didn't really understand why you believe one over the other after going through their filters. I never say to trust Hyaach, but my read on you was soo strong, having to trust Hyaach(before the katina scum flip) just made my stomach turn. Sounds like you're trying to hedge the fence :/ Now that Kat's dead who do you want to lynch? Me or someone else? | ||
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On July 02 2012 17:23 Mandalor wrote: For the next day I would like town to vote on another guy from mattchew's list. Could be me, casualman, Twelve, Bill Murray or drwiggl3s. Tbh, drwiggl3s and myself would probably be the best options. There's different people defending both of us so we can get reads on these no matter if the lynched guy flips red or green. Hopefully not blue lol. I think mattchew's analysis is hilariously bad. I just don't know if he's doing that on purpose or not. The way the game is played right now, town puts a lot of faith in him and ET so we should try to find out early if mattchew's and ET's analysis is any good in this game. @Mandalor: To what degree was this post sarcastic? | ||
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Check my filter for reasoning. | ||
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On July 11 2012 06:39 Twelve wrote: No mad hatter? Also, I don't think there is any point in giving additional reads.. my reads all game have been completely wrong (not a definition of scum btw). I still am fairly sure that Grush is mafia, or doesnt give two shits about town winning, so I'd vote for him twice if i could. Wait, are you a Kurumi smurf? O,O | ||
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On July 11 2012 08:59 Vivax wrote: @ Acro Really? Don't you remember the moment you and Kurumi saved twelve from getting lynched when you switched your vote to ET along with me? Please tell me which scum player would prefer one mislynch only over a mislynch and a modkill of two townies. A scum player looking for a better townie to kill. Since when have you been against a Twelve lynch anyway? You've been hounding him as hard as any other player hear. The only reason you voted for ET was because you thought he was more likely to be scum than Twelve. I think you are trying to buy points for your share in the mislynch, maybe pulling a townie or two down with you. | ||
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On July 12 2012 23:46 ShiaoPi wrote: For today's lynch I would like to lynch Maju instead of grush. His interactions with Katina looked incredibly scummy I agree but I am more or less willing to say that he might have made mistakes in his reads. Maju on the other hand is actively doing nothing. Flying under the radar and then unlurking the way he did looks really terrible. ##vote: MajuGarzett @grush: I am not exonerating you completely here. Who do you want to lynch? What's your opinion on the remaining players? Other people I am wary of as of now: Mandalor (that last post was baaad), casualman and VE Now especially to VE: What are your thoughts right now? As a vet player I would assume that you have quite some knowledge to share. The lack thereof until now is really worrying, besides the fact that you are still alive, but that also accounts for Acro. @vivax: Who do you want to lynch today? @ShiaoPi Mandalor's post may be bad, but it shows a lack of reading of the thread. What he failed to pay attention to is an important event in the game, so important that a scum wouldn't make a mistake like that. | ||
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Hyaach is a DT so Im in the clear for one. | ||
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On July 04 2012 18:32 MajuGarzett wrote: I like the lynching of twelve the best right now. One of the things that stands out to me in his filter was His last previous mention of casual was + Show Spoiler + On July 02 2012 04:59 Twelve wrote: + Show Spoiler + He didn't call out casual directly. Look at the way he phrased the call out. It was a question, which means he was searching for confirmation before pushing the statement. Since the town didn't really get on casual, he jumped on my wagon. Incorrect sir, even if casualman is scum, he doesn't appear to be smart enough to really pose too much of a threat and doesn't really seem worth a day 1 lynch. Again there is no reason that anyone would vote for themselves as town, and no one has really tried to defend that vote, just make accusations against the people that notice it? I don't understand. If there is a legitmate reason town would vote for themselves, please, change my mind. He says casual isn't worth a day 1 lynch but for some unexplained reason thinks he's worth a day 2 lynch. He attacks NoSmurfHere for starting bandwagons when trying to find scum really shouldn't be suspicious at all. He also claims to have found FT scummy before he ever saw the bandwagon but never bothered to mention FT at all. As town he really shouldn't be afraid to share his reads. ##Vote: Twelve Looking over MG's filter and found this. He took it out of context as Twelve had other posts about casual and his suspicions. I also see inconsistencies in how he blames others for useless votes and his defending style. Scummy as far I can see. | ||
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##Vote: MajuGarzett You have the majority of votes now, you'll get lynched if you don't show up! | ||
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On July 13 2012 13:49 MajuGarzett wrote: I wouldn't say that the bold quote is a defense of BM. It was more of a comment on NSH's logic. At that time I suspected NSH so commenting on his play made perfect sense. I guess I really can't say anything about the flip on NSH. My logic has been given and the logic made sense to me. You say that scum could have faked the role pm but what would be the point of giving scum fake role pm's when the VT positions are listed in the OP? The only way that would make sense was if scum were given a certain position such as juggler (which I am by the way) which would be given to no one else in the game. Also, if I was scum, why wouldn't I have initially tried to kill someone who other people suspected as well instead of suspecting NSH then changing my views? I don't see how my actions in general have been that scummy. I first voted for NSH, which as I have said was someone who scum would be unlikely to target for a lynch. I was against the vote of ET, a townie, and for the vote of Katina, the scum RB. I am still for lynching grush. After that I would lynch casual as by this point I suspect his trolling was just a way of keeping a null read and therefore not garnering votes. After that I'm not sure though I am suspicious of VE for his hesitance to vote for Katina. I felt that his qualms about the truth of Hyaach's roleclaim were fairly unfounded. What are you talking about fake role pms? Kinda hippcritical about claiming juggler too. Your vote for NSH could have been a ploy to make you look townie, by going after an uncosidered canidate. Defense isnt cutting it for me. | ||
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On July 14 2012 03:00 Acrofales wrote: Hrmm. I just took a look at the votecount and casualman has not yet voted. If he doesn't vote, then he'll get modkilled. That would be REALLY bad if he's town, because that would make today lylo. We need to take that into account, so Vivax, make up your mind and don't fucking flip a coin because I will revive ghost to shoot you in the face. I wouldn't count on it, he's ninja voted the last three lynches. A lot WIFOM but I wonder why he would continue to play this game as town if he was a troll. | ||
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We need to take that into account, so Vivax, make up your mind and don't fucking flip a coin because I will revive ghost to shoot you in the face. Lol, TBH I think the thing that started this whole thing (now evidence has been put behind it) if whether Grush (who's only rolled town) and Maju (who's only rolled scum). Out of the two I'd say Maju is more readable and thus less coinflippy, but considering we are planning on lynching both, a Grush lynch would make more sense. Chances are if we dont do it now it'll never be done (as towns can get distracted). ##Unvote ##Vote: Grush57 | ||
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On July 14 2012 08:54 Vivax wrote: I'll push for grush policy lynches in the future. gg scum. I actually thought Kurumi was mad hatter cause of the nonsense written somewhat early. I think BKE also had that impression. I did think so but after Hyaach roleclaimed it didn't make sense for there to be anymore blues in the game. I was also thinking that by now a MH would have roleclaimed or been more active (the first action confirming his townieness and the second to kill scum). | ||
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On July 15 2012 02:02 grush57 wrote: GG. Thanks for hosting, awesome flavor. I had to play my town meta so I wouldn't get lynched while not helping the town, hence lurking. Standing Ovation ![[image loading]](http://www.theproducersperspective.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/standing-ovation-0907-lg1.jpg) | ||
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