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So like, I have hours of spare time over the next week, so hopefully I should be useful for a change. Rebirth, why should one of Ken and Toad be killed?
From looking over the last couple of page there are some pretty strong cases on Zentor. I wanna hear a responce, and even if we think he is scum, we should hold off shooting him long enough to make use of the day.
Marv, you've been pretty quiet after mishooting, I wanna see more of you, you're a bastard to deal with as mafia, so get posting.
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On June 14 2012 20:58 supersoft wrote: claim You want me to claim?
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On June 14 2012 23:27 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 23:04 Zealos wrote:On June 14 2012 20:58 supersoft wrote: claim You want me to claim? Don't claim, we don't have any info on you yet though. I would love if you would look over the cases against Zentor and Ceph and give your thoughts and any reads you have coming in fresh. You just subbed in so I know you need time to catch up so start with the current cases if you can and then let us know your thoughts in general on how things are playing out. Were you following before you subbed in? How do you think town should proceed? I was vaguely following out of interest of the setup, but haven't had very lose looks on anything. The case on My Zentor seems to be the strongest by far right at the moment, but I haven't read the one on Ceph yet, so I'll have to look back and see :3
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On June 15 2012 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2012 21:02 marvellosity wrote: payl is guilty as shit.
he turns up during the shoot-gonzaw fiasco only to call RoL a liar because payl couldn't read the thread.
He also completely ignores what's going on in the thread at the time despite posting several times.
Now the typical 'easy' case against Zentor. I could make a case against Zentor with my eyes closed and my hands tied behind my back. I agree that zentor may be an "easy case" but why does that make him a bad lynch? As I've stated before, I think payl needs to die as well, I just don't want to see people making excuses like this about zentor. I'm inclined to agree here. While we don't want to waste the day, we should still go for the "easy" lynch, as it's the lynch that is most likely to hit red (though I suppose it isn't really lynching)
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On June 15 2012 03:56 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 14 2012 21:02 marvellosity wrote: payl is guilty as shit.
he turns up during the shoot-gonzaw fiasco only to call RoL a liar because payl couldn't read the thread.
He also completely ignores what's going on in the thread at the time despite posting several times.
Now the typical 'easy' case against Zentor. I could make a case against Zentor with my eyes closed and my hands tied behind my back. I agree that zentor may be an "easy case" but why does that make him a bad lynch? As I've stated before, I think payl needs to die as well, I just don't want to see people making excuses like this about zentor. This wasn't the point, the post was about payl. So who should get shot today? Zentor or payl?
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Soft seems to be acting awfully scummy suddenly. Shoot him yourself and prove your innocence if you're so sure.
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On June 15 2012 06:44 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 06:34 Zealos wrote: Soft seems to be acting awfully scummy suddenly. Shoot him yourself and prove your innocence if you're so sure. Do you have a gun or not? Yes, who do you want me to shoot?
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I just wanna see one of them shoot the other. First one to do that gets town points in my book.
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On June 15 2012 20:11 supersoft wrote:Zentor is town. You point out bad play. none of this is a scumtell. How could allow Ace that you take WBGs spot. not necessary if you keep up this play :-( Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 19:33 layabout wrote: There needs to be some sort of public consensus about who gets shot and who shoots. oh boy please... are you scum or what? Whats wrong with a consensus at this stage? It seems like a good idea?
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On June 15 2012 22:09 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2012 20:55 marvellosity wrote: super
you still need to tell me why you think toad is scum so much Who is GF if he isn't It could be any random member of the scum team...
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On June 16 2012 02:47 Toadesstern wrote:What happened yesterday: - Supersoft asks me what I think about Talis
- I say he is suspicious and scummy
- Supersoft quotes a post from PYP that was done PREGAME, aka before alignments were out
- I tell him "dude, Talis is super scummy but that is the only post in talis filter that isn't scummy because it's a PREgame post, aka it's not alignment indicating because he didn't even have an alignment back then. You can't take that as a reason to consider him scummy although he is scummy for every other post in his filter"
- Supersoft says we should not lynch Zentor / Payl because I am GF bussing Payl and Talis, which apparently makes Payl an incredible bad target for whatever reason and therefore he shoots Talis instead of Payl or me
- I am therefore mafia because I agreed with his read on Talis, just not with his reasoning because he quoted a pregame post and because I am bussing Payl.
Am I really the only one who fails to understand the logic here? Also so far noone (except for Zentor who did the most ridiculous "case" I've ever seen) explained why I am mafia. Well and Supersoft said I am GF because I think Talis and Payl are mafia, because that's clearly the reasonable explanation here. Something about this post seems very scummy, and I don't really know what it is...
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On June 16 2012 05:18 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 05:07 Zealos wrote:On June 16 2012 02:47 Toadesstern wrote:What happened yesterday: - Supersoft asks me what I think about Talis
- I say he is suspicious and scummy
- Supersoft quotes a post from PYP that was done PREGAME, aka before alignments were out
- I tell him "dude, Talis is super scummy but that is the only post in talis filter that isn't scummy because it's a PREgame post, aka it's not alignment indicating because he didn't even have an alignment back then. You can't take that as a reason to consider him scummy although he is scummy for every other post in his filter"
- Supersoft says we should not lynch Zentor / Payl because I am GF bussing Payl and Talis, which apparently makes Payl an incredible bad target for whatever reason and therefore he shoots Talis instead of Payl or me
- I am therefore mafia because I agreed with his read on Talis, just not with his reasoning because he quoted a pregame post and because I am bussing Payl.
Am I really the only one who fails to understand the logic here? Also so far noone (except for Zentor who did the most ridiculous "case" I've ever seen) explained why I am mafia. Well and Supersoft said I am GF because I think Talis and Payl are mafia, because that's clearly the reasonable explanation here. Something about this post seems very scummy, and I don't really know what it is... probably the fact that I am kind of assuming I am mafia in that post to show how it's not making sense? This just makes it even worse. hmm.
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It's like you half twist other peoples, and your own words to make you seem mafia, while subtly trying to get me on your side. It's really weird.
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This whole defence just seems. Really odd. I can't explain it in a better way. hmm. Let me have a look over your filter.
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Toad, looking over your filter is a TON of talking about millers, then talking about whatever is going on without really saying much of use. You're so Mafia to me right now.
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On June 16 2012 06:14 layabout wrote: Well i think Toad is making sense.
Zealos can you put the red text aside and give an explanation that relies on more than just a "Vague feeling of oddness"? Not really. I don't plan on shooting him. Yet. I'll figure it out soon enough.
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That has gotta be one of the worst moves in mafia history. Not only did you get the shot COMPLETELY wrong but you wasted the entire day for the rest of town. Are we sure there are traitors in this game?
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Ok, I'm with marv on this. Even if he isn't gf, if we have a policy against shots like this it'll stop the real GF from screwing with us.
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On June 17 2012 02:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:No you're not -_- People need to take a step back for a second, if you kill me you're basically shooting me for the same reasons I shot supersoft, I was scared he was the gf and was gonna get away clean. I understand you're pissed but let's not let that get in the way of the game. Supersoft gave us a scum list, let's start shooting down that. Also could someone summarize exactly why I'm scum? All I see is a couple people shouting "gf" and the thread sheeping along. I am killing you tomorrow if no-one else does
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Really glad that shot was made. I just don't understand his reasoning...
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Toad, shoot your top scumread please.
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I just can't get over my suspicion of him. Not to mention last time he said he would shoot he never actually got it done.
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On June 14 2012 21:34 Toadesstern wrote:now that I've claimed I want to shoot  But yeah later tonight. I guess I'll shoot into zentor or payle at 00:30 GMT (+00:00) tonight. That's already 2am for me. I probably will stay up a little longer until 2:30 or 3:00 but I won't promise that. Soooo if you have a reason you want someone else to be shot or one of them not to be shot tell me now or I'll flip a coin! (I won't flip a coin but I don't want to tell them who is going to be dead :3)
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I gather he didn't really get the chance. But it would make sense that MK had to cover for him once he realized he would have to shoot
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Wow, actually, I've convinced myself right there. He says he will shoot, then his GF conveniently shoots before his self made "Deadline" so he doesn't get shown up as not having a gun.
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Alright, I look forward to it then. I don't plan on shooting you because then I'm the one that failed it for town if I'm wrong. Give us a time when you are gonna shoot now, so we know when to shoot you.
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Ok, good, at 23:30 if you haven't shot I will shoot you.
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On June 19 2012 04:43 Toadesstern wrote:it's football time  Which means I'll have about 1 and a half hour left for analyzing and presenting my results in here. I already said Zealos looks scummy to me like he did in LV so I would like to shoot him if he has no gun. Zealos do you have a gun? You said you're willing to shoot me a lot but you never sad "yes I have a gun" or "no I don't have a gun". I have a gun.
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On June 19 2012 06:08 Toadesstern wrote: sooooo. I don't know what the wedding phrase is in english but if anyone has any regrets or anything that needs to be said before I'm going to shoot do so now. I'm waiting until 22:00 GMT (+00:00) as mentioned and I'm going to shoot Payl.
I'd like it if Zealos could manage to give me a +15 minutes margin in case of me not shooting for whatever reason. I'm not giong to sit here and wait for the "deadline" I just set myself but I'm going to shoot about that time. Your given deadline was 23. I gave you 30 mins margin.
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Let's see the result of the shot before we get too upset about it.
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If you guys plan on shooting me tomorrow, care to give me your 2nd highest reads for me to shoot as soon as the day starts? I'm leaning Lay, but I'm tired and so will look in the morning.
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Dirkzor - Town Zealos - Town layabout - Unsure Kenpachi - ??? RebirthOfLegend - Town MrZentor - Leaning Town Toadesstern - Town
I want to see Ken shoot layabout or MrZentor. Thoughts?
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I'm not shooting unless someone plans to shoot me, otherwise I waste the information I can gain from seeing who can shoot. I would prefer Ken to shoot you laya, obviously, but if the rest of the town is strongly for a zentor kill, then that can work too. With only 3 people who I am unsure about, the shot WILL hit either the sk or mafia.
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Good, provided Dirk isn't bad (which doesn't appear to be the case) this shot will either hit mafia or the SK.
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Can't wait
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Post now, you're dying tomorrow.
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On June 21 2012 03:23 MrZentor wrote: Yeah, Zealos, there's no reason for layabout to post it now, and you're a lot scummier than he is. No. With me as town, and assuming dirk is town (which no one has argued against) it's impossible for this shot NOT to shit either the last mafia or the SK. So the shot may as well take place at the start of the day
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If mafia shot ken then he's stupid. ##kill(##kill): layabout If dirk isn't town then shit.
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Dirk. You've let me down. You've let your family down. Most importantly, you've let yourself down.
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Dirk, how about you kill Zentor, then we can flip a coin to see who wins out of town and you?
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Or, you could just shoot the shit of of MrZentor. That's gotta be a more fun alternative?
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On June 21 2012 23:21 MrZentor wrote: Oh and Zealos, at that point, during the day, you would have absolute power over whether he lives or dies, there's no way you'd not kill him.
In our situation, if we kill the other person, the other person will probably kill us, which means neither one of us wins. So this encourages us to not back stab our friends. I wouldn't have any power to kill him actually.
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On June 22 2012 00:46 MrZentor wrote: Okay, I have an idea. I'm going to shoot Zealos tonight, because he's really annoying.
If you kill me, RoL will shoot you in the morning, and town wins.
If you kill RoL, we'll have made sure that there's no way for town to win.
Basically, you're going to lose unless you shoot RoL. Nope, because he won't shoot me, he'll shoot you dirk
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Not to mention he has mr in his name, so he's probably going to be lying.
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But the only way of you winning is by being untrustworthy. :O
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If a SK and mafia hit each other, what is the result?
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Hell yeah, I won it for town afterall ;D
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On June 23 2012 01:46 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 01:35 Zealos wrote: Not to mention he has mr in his name, so he's probably going to be lying. YO! That's not cool! :p Anyways, thanks for hosting Ace. I'm sorry I didn't give this game the attention it deserved, but I had to duck out for the first bit and then the spam and real-time nature made it hard to get back into it. GG Town! At that point I just wanted to spam it up so dirk and zentor couldn't have a conversation
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What was the mafia/obs qt btw?
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