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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 27 2012 15:11 GMT
#9
/in sir. /in.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 28 2012 01:57 GMT
#27
On March 28 2012 10:53 Ace wrote:
OP has been updated with this new mechanic:

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15. [image loading]
At the beginning of the day, one of the lethal positions on the queue will contain an Item Box. Any player that ends up in that position receives 1 of 6 pseudo-randomly generated items:

  1. A 1 shot medic kit - It can not be used on your self. It works for the following night and day cycle.
  2. A 1 shot gun - Can be used that same day or the following night.
  3. A magnifying glass = Reveals the alignment of 1 player to you.
  4. A Teleportation Device - Instantly swap positions with any player on the queue for that day only.
  5. A Refresher Orb that renews all PoPs for everyone and special abilities for the day phase.
  6. An Etch-A-Sketch that allows you target a player and draw them, thereby granting yourself a copy of their powers + your own. Mafia players can not copy powers from their allies.

Only the player that landed on that item position will know what item they recieved. All items are of optional use. The only item that does not follow these rules is the Refresher Orb as it is instant. Every hour, the item in the Item Box is changed to a new item that hasn't been generated yet until all 6 have been and the process starts again. If TWO players land on the position with the Item Box, then the first player (left most position) receives the item.


Okay so...I thought if you "end up" in a lethal position, you die. Do you mean if someone PoP's you onto that spot over the course of the day?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 28 2012 02:27 GMT
#30
Yeah no I get that - but the way you phrased it "Any player that ends up in that position receives 1 of 6 pseudo-randomly generated items:" makes it seem like an end-of-the-day kind of "ends up"...leading to my confusion. So you're saying that if someone enters the "lethal space" via a PoP then they'll receive the item, correct?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 28 2012 02:40 GMT
#32
K thx...that's a much more interesting mechanic than "you get an item BUT YOU DIE!!!"
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 31 2012 14:24 GMT
#95
/confirmation station
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 15:51 GMT
#164
Sup guys?

One thing I laughed about while reading the original DF was the implementation of a secondary voting system. Like, el oh el style laughed. There's a voting system already in the game - let's use that one to get information rather than come up with some convoluted secondary voting system that not only punishes participants (by limiting their PoPs in theory) but rewards people not participating (by making their PoPs actually meaningful).

I'm not in favor of a secondary voting system. Just responsibly use your PoPs, that's all I ask.

We haven't heard from everyone yet, I'm holding onto my thoughts on who's scum until we do. Thank you, and good day.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 15:57 GMT
#165
Syllo you're looking bad. I'm thinking about Popping you bro. What do you think about that?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 16:10 GMT
#168
Going back I realized that I wanted to pressure Syllo a bit because he's pushing what I feel is an anti-town agenda.

Do you have a problem with discussion Dirkzor?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 16:24 GMT
#170
At this point, trying to go for the item is going to cause us to not have votes for who we want to incinerate. Going for the item now is a bad idea. I think we should wait until someone is close to the item before we discuss going about actually trying to acquire the item.

My two cents.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 16:51 GMT
#176
On April 02 2012 01:46 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 00:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Syllo you're looking bad. I'm thinking about Popping you bro. What do you think about that?

Feel free, and in the process explain as to why you think so and why a "secondary" voting system is bad


As it's been discussed already, there's no guarantee everyone would follow suit (regardless of alignment) and we can't just punish people who don't participate (because there's no guarantee that they're scum.) We can't force people to participate, and all it's going to do is cause confusion. The voting mechanic is confusing enough without adding ANOTHER mechanic into the game. You don't agree?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 22:07 GMT
#221
Yeah, I could feasibly get down on a Bluelightz lynch dude.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 22:18 GMT
#225
I might be like...italics/bold on people who have pushed and strikethrough people who have pulled or whatever.

Looked at it from that perspective, people who are pulling Palmar to get the item still have a vote to kill at the end of the day (pushes). The only votes we'd be losing are people "pushing" Palmar to get him back to safety.

Suddenly I like the idea of giving Palmar power to see what he does with it. Especially since I can still contribute to the lynch.

##pull: Palmar
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 22:21 GMT
#227
BM's claim makes sense from a townie perspective.

In JubJub I had to make a king N1 or I would have died without being able to use the power. And he's claimed it's 1-shot too, so his results are going to be as useful now as they would later. I don't mind his claim at all.

Now, it also makes sense from a scum perspective, but I haven't seen anything from BM yet that indicates that he's trying to manipulate town aside from the claim, which as I said, makes sense from a town perspective.

So for now, I'm believing the claim until I'm forced not to.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 22:25 GMT
#230
On April 02 2012 07:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
Why the hell would you do that when we know, if we want to kill someone who takes more than 10-12 pushes, that saving Palmar would be nearly impossible?

Take Bluelightz, for example. To kill him would take 13 pushes AT LEAST. if he is scum, we might need 14 or 15 even, if there are hidden pulling mechanics. That leaves only 5 pushes to save Palmar if he is town.

That ties up 18 pushes. That means anyone who doesn't push with the rest of town will cause us great problems and it unnecessarily restricts our ability to kill/save who we want to.

Scum control 5 PoPs and there's no way we can guarantee all the town work together.


Obviously we're going to have to prioritize, bugs. I'm not saying people further from death are immune to suspicion, quite the opposite - people in the middle should be under THE MOST scrutiny because they're the ones who will take the most effort to kill...

But if you'll read my post, "pulling" Palmar isn't doing shit but remove my ability to either pull myself to safety or take a firm stance against a lynch or whatever - I can still "push" with the rest of town.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 22:27 GMT
#231
Also bugs, it will only take 7 "pulls" to kill Bz...just fyi.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 22:27 GMT
#233
ebwodp:

8 pulls
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 22:33 GMT
#236
Hey - he volunteered bugs. I mean, bad stuff can happen and he's aware of the risks.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 22:44 GMT
#239
The way I'm looking at it, our PoPs are our votes. Syllo and Co. want everyone to agree on how to use votes, and my concern (which has been proven) is that not everyone is going to want to follow that. There are circumstances in play here beyond "who we want to kill" and already we've seen a couple...items, Palmar wanting items, confirming roleclaims...I mean, if you guys want to reserve your PoPs for who we "agree" on feel free - I'm saving my "push" for that. In the meantime, I'm also "pulling" Palmar as he requested.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 22:45 GMT
#241
Well you're having a conversation with one of them Bugs...does his "claim" seem to be accurate to you so far?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 22:49 GMT
#243
By my estimation, pulling Palmar to get the item is the most protown plan for right now - in that way, we still have our "pushes" available to push people for the lynch, and if he doesn't prove his worth as a townie we can just leave him to die there.

You're taking an awfully careful approach to this game bugs...are you just trying to avoid a mass-murder like DFM1 or is it something more sinister?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 23:29 GMT
#249
There's no reassurance that anyone is town, Wiggles. I'm interested to see what he does with the item, as that will be more of an indicator of his alignment than discussing whether or not he's worthy of the item.

I don't "trust" Palmar, but I know he's smart/experienced enough to know what to do and what not to do with the item if he's town, so I "trust" that I'll be able to gauge his alignment based on how he acts with it.

What do you suggest we do Wiggles? Wait for a confirmed town before we get the item? So do you suggest we kill BM to test his alignment to confirm myself and Snarfs so that one of us can get it? Does that not seem like a horrifying waste of PoPs to you?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 01 2012 23:56 GMT
#251
No thanks, I'm good. Palmar's just about there, I'd rather we get him across the finish instead.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 00:15 GMT
#254
Oh Wiggles, you're a pleasure bro. ^^

I'm not acting "incredibly defensive", I'm trying get things done. Palmar volunteered to get the item, I'm okay with him getting the item, I made a move. If anything I'm being very proactive and decisive.

If you want to try and cast my decisions in a scummy light, you're going to do a little more than twisting my words around to sound scummier than they are. From your post I assumed you wanted a confirmed townie to have the item - clearly I was mistaken. But when you say things like "we have no assurances" and "how do you know he can be trusted" it seems like you want something concrete, which means "confirmed townie".

I mean, feel free to PoP me if you really want me dead Wiggles...but you doing so after only one "shady" post seems pretty hypocritical to me sir.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 00:18 GMT
#255
On April 02 2012 09:05 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 08:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
prplhz, please tell me who you would like to kill today and why.

Tell me additionally what you think of syllogism, VE, and layabout.

How about Tobon? Nothing in his filter even though he calls out for scum hunting, most of it is just pointing out random stuff and summarizing the thread. I'm not decided yet but he's looking pretty bad.

Why are you asking about those three specifically?


I have no idea why we are sending Palmar for that item. It's not really that powerful and we can still determine his alignment without him getting it (well, it wouldn't hurt if he would post a little more). wherebugsgo already pointed out potential dangers, scum could have a hidden PoP role, like a PoP Floridian Toy, and then they could pull (push) Palmar over the edge when he gets the item. killing one of the best town players.

This is really risky and I'm totally against it and I think people should have thought more carefully about this before going through with it, and then they should have concluded that it wasn't worth it at all.


"...and then they should have concluded that it wasn't worth it at all"

Like, what does that even mean? You guys are boring me with all this walking on broken glass bullshit.

Whatever, I'll just vote with town and let you guys PoP me to the edge for "trying to shirk responsibility for my actions" or something stupid.

Enact whatever retarded "alternative voting system" you want. I won't be participating, but promise to vote for whoever you Jubs want to vote for.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 00:35 GMT
#258
Watch me?! Watch me watch you Bugs! I SEE YOU!!!

What do you think sir? I'd like your thoughts on Syllogism, layabout and MrWiggles sir. WATCH ME AWAIT YOUR RESPONSE!!!
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Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 01:45 GMT
#263
I don't know if I want to save Palmar yet...he hasn't really done much in the way of scumhunting and he's certainly not contributing in any other way. I'm actually cool with him being where he's at if he intends to keep up this quality of play. ^^
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 01:56 GMT
#264
Zentor, you should do something rather than pretend to be angry about the actions of others.

So do you think that the people who pulled Palmar are scum? Does you voicing your frustration help you find scum? Does it help me? Does it help town?

Now, if Palmar is town, he'll use the item to help town. If he's not, then he'll use it to hurt town. Lucky for us, we get to be part of it either way because we know he got something and we have control over whether he lives or dies.

And, with all this naysaying between Bugs and the Jubs, chances are Palmar will be back to contribute something before anyone lets him have the item, and he's only ONE push deep into the red-zone in the meantime. How about you just chill out and look for scum rather than get worked up over my actions? It'll be a blast, we can kill the scums TOGETHER!
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 02:36 GMT
#267
role=/=alignment

come on bill
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 02:40 GMT
#268
On April 02 2012 11:07 Bill Murray wrote:
VE I understand what you're doing, but everyone has a role this game
Me creating myself as a townie? Oh well, I'm looking to scumhunt anyways. Creating 2 town in the process if I get mislynched or killed is gravy on the potatoes.


Got any leads you want to discuss rather than try and alter my playstyle? How do you feel about a Bluelightz lynch? Who else is pinging the ol' scumdar?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 03:53 GMT
#276
Would 8 pushes be sufficient to put Bluelightz in the incineration zone given normal circumstances?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 04:03 GMT
#278
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 04:04 GMT
#279
So Bugs is confirmed scum, maybe Wiggles.

Anyone wanna check my math?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 04:09 GMT
#280
On April 02 2012 12:25 Tobon wrote:
Hey! I've been off at Emerald City Comic-Con for the day, will read through and respond more in a bit. Thought I'd point out, though, that Nemesis's push of me didn't have the effect you'd expect. I skipped by spot 11. Which maybe makes Acrofales the double-wide big toy?


Or Nemisis is a super-strong double-pushing toy. Very interesting. VERY.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 04:21 GMT
#284
I don't know man, you're being all like careful and diplomatic and shit. Being reasonable is a scumtell with you Bugs. You haven't called me or Palmar scum or retarded once yet. And to top it off, you mistakenly "thought" that it takes 15 pushes to lynch Blue.

Something's going on with you, I'm just sayin. I'M JUST SAYING GUY
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 04:22 GMT
#285
And the fact that Wiggles didn't correct you makes me think that he's scum with you. It's a hunch. A HUNCH SIR
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 04:30 GMT
#286
Hold on a second.

##Push: Bluelightz
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 04:55 GMT
#290
I mean, it's just a feeling. I like a Bluelightz lynch obviously, and this flip won't tell me anything about your alignment. I don't expect you to respond or anything because it's not even a case - I'm just saying. Prove me wrong guy.

Wiggles, I don't know what you're doing, but your one piece of advice from last game was "let's make a conscious effort to not wind people up this game" and you seem to be attempting to wind me up. It's contradictory man, and I don't like it.

And to all you lurkers out there...
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Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 05:08 GMT
#293
Well, I expect Bugs to be a good enough player to know how the voting works...earlier when we were discussing Blue I just kinda assumed he was right when he counted the pushes we required but when I realized that we only need 8 to put him in the incineration zone, it made me wonder what the oversight was on Bugs' part. I pushed Blue early because A) while there's been some discussion about it, no one has stepped up to the plate and actually pushed the guy, and B) because I wanted to see if Bugs knew something I didn't about the number of votes it's going to take to get Blue into the zone.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 02 2012 11:57 GMT
#327
On April 02 2012 20:09 Palmar wrote:
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On April 02 2012 18:48 prplhz wrote:
@Palmar It's quite cool that you have that ability but you can't seriously have been thinking of using it without informing town first? People have started to push people toward the red zone and all that work would be undone if you just flip the queue.

Why do you want to kill someone for bads? That seems like a rather poor reason when we're supposed to kill people for scum. Is there anybody you want to kill for scum?


I do whatever I feel like without asking anyone in particular.

I'm not sure who I want to kill for scum right now.


Push Bluelightz. It's great fun.
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April 02 2012 12:08 GMT
#328
On April 02 2012 20:09 Palmar wrote:
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On April 02 2012 18:48 prplhz wrote:
@Palmar It's quite cool that you have that ability but you can't seriously have been thinking of using it without informing town first? People have started to push people toward the red zone and all that work would be undone if you just flip the queue.

Why do you want to kill someone for bads? That seems like a rather poor reason when we're supposed to kill people for scum. Is there anybody you want to kill for scum?


I do whatever I feel like without asking anyone in particular.

I'm not sure who I want to kill for scum right now.


At least you're contributing to the hunt for scum though, AMIRITE?
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April 02 2012 16:55 GMT
#359
On April 03 2012 01:42 Ace wrote:
[image loading]


Yeeeah...so I'm simultaneously disturbed and excited about this picture. I don't know why.

Okay, Bluelightz - by your estimation, the people who voted for you (because you're the "easy" target) are the most suspicious?

What do you think about players like wherebugsgo and myself, players who voted for you for actual reasons and are actually interested in watching you burn?

What do you think about Palmar's play so far? Perhaps you could pull him one step closer to the item?
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April 02 2012 16:57 GMT
#360
Wait, what are you assuming about risk.nuke Tobon? What do you mean "risk.nuke's light"? He never ever described his power, what it would look like in-thread or what it would do...why would you "presume" that the image has anything to do with risk.nuke at all?
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April 02 2012 17:01 GMT
#364
Bugs Palmar. Tell me why we shouldn't kill Bugs instead of Wiggles.
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April 02 2012 17:09 GMT
#370
Actually I want to see the resolution...your push will resolve the whole "Acro is a double-wide" theory I think.

But no, I'm out of PoP today.
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April 02 2012 17:11 GMT
#373
Okay, we can now safely assume that Acro is NOT double-wide and that Nemesis is some kind of super strong double-pushing toy.

FWEEEEEAKYYYY
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April 02 2012 17:35 GMT
#379
I'm for it, Snarfs.
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April 02 2012 17:36 GMT
#380
Dude let's just kill Wiggles (4 pushes) and get Palmar the item and back (2 pulls, 4 pushes)

D1 successful.
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April 02 2012 18:44 GMT
#406
On April 03 2012 03:13 Bill Murray wrote:
If Palmar uses his ability, I'm pushing Cephiro

just sayin'


If you mean that to be a threat, I'd probably "pull" him if I were you. Just sayin.
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April 02 2012 18:51 GMT
#408
On April 03 2012 03:47 layabout wrote:
@cephiro
The thing is that Palmar has given us next to nothing to indicate one alignment over the other and killing him because you "do not trust him" is not justifiable.

I am not suggesting we lynch wiggles, but i would like to know why VE and Palmar have suggested that.

what has cascades done to make you want to lynch him?

Nemesis:
Do you really think that this was anything other than a throwaway Pop that does nothing to help town?
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On April 02 2012 12:01 Nemesis wrote:
Time to actually give out my scumreads so far:
Right now I'm looking at Tobon.

First thing he does is proposing the secondary voting system. While that by itself is not really scummy even though I disagree with it, his next posts I find are rather bad.

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On April 01 2012 23:45 Tobon wrote:
On April 01 2012 19:50 Palmar wrote:
just remember to reverse your action because apparently I'm some weird toy that gets pulled when pushed, and pushed while pulled.


Nothing is for sure here, but in DFM1, this was the power of the evil Mirror Toy, who could also reverse ends of the entire queue once per game. So (a) be aware that the queue flipping power probably exists, and also (b) I'd be a a bit suspicious of Palmar, although I doubt Ace would make it so easy for us by repeating scum roles.

Note how he takes an extremely neutral stance here. He finds Palmar suspicious for his role which is similar to a role in the previous game, but then he adds that it is unlikely that Ace would give scum the same roles. This sounds to me like a scum trying to put suspicion onto someone while avoiding responsibility for it.

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On April 02 2012 02:54 Tobon wrote:
So cascade's pull happened. Palmar's role is confirmed, although his alignment is still unknown.

Again he stresses how we don't know Palmar's alignment.


##Push: Tobon


Also, it's been almost 24 hours and risk.nuke and Sbrubbles have not posted at all. :/

If they don't post anytime soon, I'm all for lynching them too.


Here he completely misrepresents wiggles to achieve _______
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On April 02 2012 12:15 Nemesis wrote:
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On April 01 2012 13:43 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Well, let's get this started. I think we should try our best not to wind each other up this game.

Let's try not to throw our pushes and pulls around too liberally, or at least not anymore than we have to if we can. That means that we don't end up wasting a whole bunch of pushes and pulls that have the net effect of cancelling each other out because people disagree.

Though it's tempting, I don't think we should kill more than a couple people each day, barring anyone basically claiming scum. The last game ended with a whole bunch of people dying on day 2, so based on the probability of queue altering abilities, we should probably pull townie looking people, or people we don't want to die forward a little. Maybe keep them towards the middle of the queue, in case there's some kind of queue flipper.

What do you guys think about the item? Partway through day 1, we can decide on one person who we want to get it, and then who we want to push them and pull them back. The thing is, the people who do that have their voting powers nullified, so we need to decide on who would be best to do it to, and keep it organized, so no one "accidentally" goes off the queue.

I'm going to bed now. Feel free to post a lot while I'm sleeping. Don't toy with me.

In here, you suggest taking the item.

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On April 02 2012 08:18 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
VE, BM, why do you think Palmar is a good candidate for getting the item? He hasn't done anything to show that he's town this game, and his only post is asking for the item. Considering many of the items can be good for scum as well as town, why do you want to pull him to the item with no reassurance that he's town? Why are you so quick to trust him?
While when people were pushing Palmar to take the item, you are against it? Would you rather someone else took the item then? What kind of person are you looking for to take the item then? People just chose palmar because he was the closest to it(so we waste less PoP) and he volunteered.

Anyways I'm off for now, nighty night.




Wiggles is a smart guy. Like, super smart. He knows how voting works, and Bugs was insisting that it took 13 pushes to kill Bluelightz at the beginning of his push. A town Wiggles would have corrected Bugs I think, immediately. I only realized it later, but Wiggles is much smarter than me.

Combined with the fact that his first bit of advice from playing in the original DFM was "let's try not to anger each other" when it's appeared (at least to me) that he's been trying to get a rise out of me for most of his later posting.

That's my reasoning for wanting to off Wiggles.
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April 02 2012 18:52 GMT
#410
Plus Wiggles auto-rolls scum bro.

<3
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April 02 2012 18:55 GMT
#411
I'm tentatively for a WBG lynch, but can do nothing to support it syllo. So you know...just fyi.
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April 02 2012 18:58 GMT
#414
Syllo, are you factoring in the capability for a well-manipulated town to be mass-murdered? It seems to me that in circumstances like that, having a higher DT count would help balance against that sort of manipulation.
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April 02 2012 19:01 GMT
#415
I mean, unless someone counterclaims the red light, risk.nuke is mod-confirmed.
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April 02 2012 19:02 GMT
#417
On April 03 2012 04:01 syllogism wrote:
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On April 03 2012 03:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Syllo, are you factoring in the capability for a well-manipulated town to be mass-murdered? It seems to me that in circumstances like that, having a higher DT count would help balance against that sort of manipulation.

But mafia only has one standard KP, so "confirming" several players at once on day 1 seems ridiculously powerful


Having one "standard" KP in a game like this itself is ridiculously powerful syllo, pull the other one.
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April 02 2012 19:04 GMT
#420
On April 03 2012 04:03 layabout wrote:
But VE, after WBG made that mistake both you and i corrected it before wiggles even posted. Why would he point it out again?


What I'm saying is that he would have corrected it before we did...he had posted, and he reads the thread.
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April 02 2012 19:07 GMT
#425
You're logic is based solely behind what's balanced for the scum team, you realize this right? Your view seems skewed toward considering the option that favors the scum-team.

The role isn't unreasonable at all, considering the claims that have already been made. What about risk.nuke, he has the capability to confirm a large amount of people too. So is his power to powerful to exist?

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April 02 2012 19:12 GMT
#429
Thank you for your time Syllo!

Let's lynch BM!
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April 02 2012 19:12 GMT
#430
*by Let's, obviously I mean "You guys".
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April 02 2012 19:15 GMT
#434
Wait a tick....I do believe that two such roles could exist in this game.

Nevermind guys, false alarm.
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April 02 2012 19:22 GMT
#445
Well, technically I didn't even correct him when you said I did - I didn't see that you had corrected him and corrected him much later than that.

I was referring to the number of pulls to pull Blue off the back of the board...not correcting the number of pushes to get him into the zone in that post.

But no, you're not missing anything there. The fact that Bugs didn't respond to your correction and Wiggles didn't even notice it is just as damning in my opinion.

But it doesn't matter ultimately because I've used my PoP's this cycle. I'm just putting that out there. And this is only part of my reasoning anyway - the other part is his contradictory behavior.

If you don't agree laya it's cool - if I'm right, he'll continue to exhibit other suspicious behavior.
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April 02 2012 19:25 GMT
#448
On April 03 2012 04:19 Tobon wrote:
Also, welcome to nearly confirmed town-hood, Cephiro! It's remotely possible that you AND one of Syllo and Sbrubbles are red, but the odds are incredibly against it.


What does this mean?
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April 02 2012 19:41 GMT
#460
I can save Palmar with my power, but it would require dumb amounts of PoPs. I won't say if I think it's worth it or not. *shrug*
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April 02 2012 19:47 GMT
#461
Actually yeah I will. I think it's worth it. A lot of people still have pulls and we can flip someone by pulling them off the board and HO WAIT A SEC THERE'S A DT CHECK ON EVERYONE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE QUEUE.

So yeah, if we want to save Palmar now's the time guys...but I don't know if we can get a coordinated enough effort to do it. We'd need exactly 5 pushes and 2 pulls to save Palmar, and however many pulls to flip one of risk's redskis.
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April 02 2012 19:49 GMT
#463
On April 03 2012 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can save Palmar with my power, but it would require dumb amounts of PoPs. I won't say if I think it's worth it or not. *shrug*

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April 02 2012 19:52 GMT
#467
Well Mattchew, I've given the cost for mine...what's the cost for yours?
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April 02 2012 19:53 GMT
#468
I want to know if there's support for the plan before I divulge my role and plan Bugs, think bro.
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#469
Or you know, shut up because I wanna kill you.
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#470
lol jk

Or am I?
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April 02 2012 20:02 GMT
#476
Yeah, calm down. I'm not even willing to try unless we definitely have support.
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April 02 2012 20:04 GMT
#477
The fact of the matter is that if Palmar is telling the truth, scum's agenda is for Palmar to not have the item. If Palmar were scum, he wouldn't be doing this - he'd want the item.

So I believe that Palmar is town and scum want him dead. But your mileage may vary. If you believe like I do, and you want to save Palmar, get in here and say something so we can get it done.
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April 02 2012 20:16 GMT
#484
We can do both bugs.

Push me bro.
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April 02 2012 20:18 GMT
#487
I'm a helpful horsee. I can pick up a toy, and any pushes that affect me will affect my target. So get me under Palmar, I'll pick him up, pull me to safety. EZPZ
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April 02 2012 20:19 GMT
#488
No it's cool Ceph. I volunteered.
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April 02 2012 20:19 GMT
#489
We now need 4 pushes and 2 pulls.
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April 02 2012 20:22 GMT
#492
Inherent risks include the presence of another nullifier and the presence of some kind of day-vig.

You have been warned. PoP at your own risk.
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April 02 2012 20:31 GMT
#495
Scum would be trying to get the item/stay alive Dirk, not claiming to already be dead in the incineration zone. Come on guy.
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April 02 2012 20:50 GMT
#498
On April 03 2012 05:49 Acrofales wrote:
Hey VE, I'll help get Palmar out of there, but it has to happen in the next hour or so, because then I'm going to bed. I wish my ability could be used during the day: I have an easier way to get him out, but it can only be used at night :S


Just push me bro - we got this
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April 02 2012 20:51 GMT
#501
3 pushes, left
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April 02 2012 21:25 GMT
#515
He's apparently telling the truth. Can we continue with the plan now? Luckily it didn't use your Pull so I can count on you to help save me right Bugs?

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April 02 2012 21:30 GMT
#519
Come on guys - 3 pushes, 2 or more pulls. No biggie. You have the power in your hands. Will you choose to aid the forces of good, or play accomplice to the forces of evil?
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April 02 2012 21:35 GMT
#525
On April 03 2012 06:34 layabout wrote:
##tell acro to push VE


Acro has I think...
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April 02 2012 21:42 GMT
#529
On April 03 2012 06:39 layabout wrote:
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On April 03 2012 06:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 03 2012 06:34 layabout wrote:
##tell acro to push VE after he uses his pony powers on Palmar


Acro has I think...

Hmm?


Hmmmmmm.......oh I my brain blocked out the humorous part of that statement. Do you think both Palmar and myself are scum? Or just one of us?
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April 02 2012 21:43 GMT
#530
Oh that part wasn't there. O U!!
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April 02 2012 21:44 GMT
#532
I wants an update. Ace is a mack-daddy for hosting something as live-feeling as this is.
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April 02 2012 21:45 GMT
#533
But I think 2 pushes left.
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April 02 2012 21:46 GMT
#536
I don't know all that Ceph...I'm pretty sure that only affects PoPs of Palmar himself, but people will be PoPing me...but that's speculation and we'll just have to see. ^^
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April 02 2012 21:47 GMT
#538
Nah, we're all going to be used to the system tomorrow laya...I still don't enjoy the thought of having to vote on town consensus to use our votes.
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April 02 2012 21:47 GMT
#540
But hey - I may be dead so it may not matter! SILVER-LINING MODE ENGAGE!!!!
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April 02 2012 21:49 GMT
#543
On April 03 2012 06:47 wherebugsgo wrote:
Based on current posting I'd say it's actually pretty likely syllo is the scum out of those 3.


I think I agree here...his logic seems based on what would be balanced from a scum perspective, which worries me.

Also the others seem to be interested in helping out our super-pro-town rescue mission while syllo is stoic as ever.
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April 02 2012 21:50 GMT
#544
On April 03 2012 06:49 Cephiro wrote:
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On April 03 2012 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't know all that Ceph...I'm pretty sure that only affects PoPs of Palmar himself, but people will be PoPing me...but that's speculation and we'll just have to see. ^^


You do realize that a guessing game is not very optimal for us, if we flip a coin to see what happens, in the worst case scenario once you got Palmar on your back, then we could mistakenly push you to the item (which doesn't seem that bad), but that would give scum the possibility of getting you both killed instantly. Especially since they may very well have hidden or extra PoP.

Is there a chance you could confirm from the mod what happens in such a situation? (Palmar on your back and you get PoP'd)


I'm trusting my logic here Ceph - while you're right, it's a guess, it's an educated guess based on logic.
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April 02 2012 21:50 GMT
#546
We can still pull someone down low to death I think guys, and we should by all means.
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April 02 2012 21:56 GMT
#550
Don't do it immediately Ceph...I need to use my action. Wait until confirmation from me before anyone pulls me after we've reached the appropriate number of pushes.
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April 02 2012 22:08 GMT
#556
I think we've got the pulls under control - what we need are two more town-aligned pushes.
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April 02 2012 22:09 GMT
#558
In fact, in Nemesis is town, his pulls are probably twice as strong too..we may just need his pull to get us clear. Obviously I wouldn't mind one or two buffer pulls, but I'd rather be one in the safe and be able to kill someone with those pulls.
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#560
On April 03 2012 07:10 Cephiro wrote:
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On April 03 2012 07:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
In fact, in Nemesis is town, his pulls are probably twice as strong too..we may just need his pull to get us clear. Obviously I wouldn't mind one or two buffer pulls, but I'd rather be one in the safe and be able to kill someone with those pulls.


I think it might be smarter if Nemesis is around if we get one more push on you, so that we could do X's push, my push, you take Palmar, and Nemesis pulls you out. And I could still use my pull as a buffer, or then to try and get someone killed.


Yeah, that's basically what I was saying.
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April 02 2012 22:15 GMT
#562
Emergency Review For The Lazy
Palmar has claimed "nullified" rendering him not able to be PoP'd...so I'm going on a rescue mission to save him. We need 2 pushes for me to be able to do this, and you should ask before acting to make sure you're not pushing me to death or something (unless that's your intent ). If we're able to pull this off, we need to decide who to kill between Cephiro, Sbubbles and syllogism. It's going to be an eventful few hours guys.
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April 02 2012 22:23 GMT
#564
Sbubbles is equivalent to lynching a lurker with the added bonus of a 1/3 chance of being scum.

Syllo is a good lynch in my opinion - his argumentation has been based solely on outguessing the mod and setup speculation, which is poor play and not what I'd expect from syllogism (although he's knowledgeable enough to do it as town too )...his general apathy toward actually finding scum makes me tend toward sylloScum.

Cephiro is onboard the Palmar rescue effort, which gives him points in my book, and his play hasn't like, REEKED of scum...I'm not sure how I feel about a Ceph lynch although he'd be the easiest bet being closest to the edge.
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April 02 2012 22:28 GMT
#566
Oh, it kinda goes without saying that if we pull this off and save Palmar, everyone better be onboard with killing that dude tomorrow if he doesn't make with the contribution after all the effort. Just sayin.
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April 02 2012 22:36 GMT
#570
Nemesis, Cephiro was a part of that check too - he makes the 3 of 1/3 chance of scum.
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April 02 2012 22:59 GMT
#572
Yo! Dead thread! Day ends in like 5 hours! No discussion or anything? Nothing interesting happening? No comment?
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April 02 2012 23:05 GMT
#574
On April 03 2012 08:03 Cephiro wrote:
Still waiting for someone to come up with a push on you, and for people to tell their opinions about today's pull-lynch possibility. It should be even possible to get a push-lynch on top of that.

If we have enough pushes after the rescue mission (which hopefully will succeed), I'd suggest for cascades to be pushed into the flames.

For the pull I stand by what I said earlier, I know that syllo or sbrubbles, or even both of them are scum, so I am fine with either. If one flips town, I know the other is scum for sure. (Well, there is a possibility that risk.nuke fakeclaimed, but in my opinion that is extremely unlikely.)


Why do people want you dead Ceph? I'd go back and look, but I'd like to know your take on it.
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April 02 2012 23:07 GMT
#576
Tobon what do you think about syllogism? Full thoughts please.
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April 02 2012 23:14 GMT
#580
Re: Plan - Yes, we're waiting on one more push and Ceph said he'd push as well, so that should be sufficient.

Re: syllo - In a game where there's death around every corner by the way the queue is designed, not even factoring in possible powers, I don't buy the "imbalance" part of syllo's argument. Now, BM DID skip some spots on the queue, which corroborates the rest of his claim until proven otherwise through his actions (or inactions)...so for the time being, I believe him, though to a lesser degree than risk.nuke who has either designed a really elaborate fake-claim that involves the mod or actually is what he claims.

Re: Cephiro - Yeah, I'm just throwing that in there because it's a factor in my reads...it's not substantial, but it's what I'm going on...he's actively playing for town if he's scum, and I'm okay with that right now.
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April 02 2012 23:21 GMT
#587
Yeah man, if prp pushes, Ceph can push and after I grab you can pull.
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April 02 2012 23:37 GMT
#593
I mean, I can understand hesitation. If he doesn't want to help I don't want his help - I'm not in the business of strongarming people this game. Palmero DOES have a pitiful filter.
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#594
I assumed he asked because he wanted to help - otherwise why ask?
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April 02 2012 23:40 GMT
#597
Intriguing...
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April 02 2012 23:46 GMT
#599
Ceph, wait til we get an update. Something smells fishy.
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#603
Yes sir.
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April 02 2012 23:57 GMT
#607
prpl, you're the one turning this into a paranoia-fest. I'm just trying to be careful cause I don't wanna die <.< >.> O.O!

What about the assertion that syllogism has done very little to actually find scum?
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April 03 2012 00:00 GMT
#609
Okay, Ceph go ahead and push. Once I see it in-thread, I'll send the action to Ace and Kurumi. The moment you guys see confirmation in-thread (it's self-confirming) then Nemesis, go ahead and pull. BUT WAIT UNTIL YOU GET CONFIRMATION THAT I PICKED HIM UP.
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April 03 2012 00:16 GMT
#614
prpl, out of curiosity - what makes you "trust (Palmar) to be town"? I mean, obviously I'm townie town-town, but why Palmar?
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April 03 2012 00:25 GMT
#617
Word that son.

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Pull away Nemesis.
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April 03 2012 00:41 GMT
#635
VE moved himself 1 space, freeing up a pull theoretically for the kill today. You're welcome.
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April 03 2012 00:43 GMT
#637
Hrm...anyone remember off-hand if a zone-altering power exists that could move the incineration zone down 1? I wouldn't mind actually 1 more pull if we can spare it, but I can wait until closer to deadline.
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April 03 2012 00:50 GMT
#643
Actually strike that, I'm paranoid. No more VE pulls. Thanks you.
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April 03 2012 00:51 GMT
#645
I think we have enough Pushes to kill Wiggles if everyone comes in and does it...and I think we have enough pulls to kill our choice, but it's close. We may not get a flip today guys.
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#646
3 pushes to kill Wiggles or cascades. Anyone feeling frisky?
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#647
What do you think about Wiggles, Bugs?
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#649
Same question to you prplhz.
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#651
Same to you Snarfs. BM's alignment is in doubt (because he's not here), but he's certainly right about my alignment, so for the moment I'm going to assume he was right about yours too. What do you think about a Wiggles kill vs. cascades?
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#655
On April 03 2012 09:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
What do you think about Wiggles, Bugs?


On April 03 2012 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Same question to you prplhz.


Sup?
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April 03 2012 01:03 GMT
#658
I pull out ze Wiggle Call (patent pending)....

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#661
I mean, he's been active and he's been driving scum-hunting discussion for a couple hours now. If he's scum, I'm willing to wait him out. I'm leaning town right now. BUT I'M STILL WATCHING YOU WATCH ME BUGS!!!
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#663
prpl thx for the help bro. See you tomorrow.
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April 03 2012 01:27 GMT
#664
Well...this thread died faster than CrunCher's fan-club. We can still get a flip guys, but we need activity to make it happen.
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April 03 2012 01:32 GMT
#666
I like those points Sbrubbles. What do you think about Wiggles as opposed to a cascades lynch? He has the same number of pushes to lynch, and I find him to be a perfectly viable candidate. What do you think?
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#668
Wiggles make me understand - were you trying to get a rise out of me to further your read? It seemed very contradictory to me sir, and I'd like to hear your reasoning.
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April 03 2012 01:47 GMT
#671
On April 02 2012 09:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On April 02 2012 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
There's no reassurance that anyone is town, Wiggles. I'm interested to see what he does with the item, as that will be more of an indicator of his alignment than discussing whether or not he's worthy of the item.

I don't "trust" Palmar, but I know he's smart/experienced enough to know what to do and what not to do with the item if he's town, so I "trust" that I'll be able to gauge his alignment based on how he acts with it.

What do you suggest we do Wiggles? Wait for a confirmed town before we get the item? So do you suggest we kill BM to test his alignment to confirm myself and Snarfs so that one of us can get it? Does that not seem like a horrifying waste of PoPs to you?

No, I don't think someone needs to be confirmed to get the item, but I think that we should see how they post, and get an idea of what their alignment is. There's a difference between judging someone to be town based off their posts, and just blindly trusting them. I think the best indicator of his alignment would be him posting, but he's not doing that, so there's absolutely no reason to think he's town. How he uses the item won't even tell us very much about his alignment either, in my opinion, and that's if he even tells you what it is. It's easy to think of ways to use the items that look pro-town, but don't actually benefit us.

I find it interesting that when I ask a question about why you trust Palmar enough to give him the item, you make gross exaggerations and act incredibly defensive about it. I didn't suggest someone has to be confirmed to be eligible to get the item, and I didn't suggest to flip anyone to try to confirm people, or to waste our PoP's getting the item with someone far up the queue.

Why did you jump to being so irrationally defensive and using exaggerated rhetoric when I asked you a simple question, VE?

@WBG: I'm not exactly sure who I want to kill right now. Based off this last post, and thinking that giving Palmar an item because he asked for it is the most pro-town thing we could do, maybe VE. Or, based on his complete lack of effort, we could flip Palmar.

What do you think of Palmar and VE, WBG? I see you linked a couple people who haven't posted and said you want to kill them, so what do you think of Palmar with his one post?


The bolded paragraph is what I'm referring to - I was just trying to get at what you meant when talking about "trusting Palmar enough with the item" or whatever. It seemed strange to me that you thought we should wait for someone "trustworthy" to go for the item, especially considering how deep into the incineration zone one would have to go to GET the item.

Your response was accusatory - language like "gross exaggerations", "irrationally defensive" and "exaggerated rhetoric" all seem designed to be inflammatory. Am I just reading too much into it or something?
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#672
Also, Palmar is only 2 pushes away from the Zone still Wiggles, what's your read on Palmar now? Why don't you push him toward the zone, considering his effort hasn't changed at all and that was enough to kill him earlier...the fact that I mounted a rescue mission shouldn't even factor in.
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April 03 2012 01:53 GMT
#673
Oh Palmar can't be Popped...right...nevermind that last bit. HURRR
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April 03 2012 02:19 GMT
#676
And he disappears. And he hasn't PoP'd yet. Waiting to flow with town sentiment Wiggles? Hmmmmm?

And where the EFF did Bugs go? Why am I the only one around 2 hours from deadline?!
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April 03 2012 02:20 GMT
#677
There's Snarfs! Thoughts on Wiggles bro, GOGOGO!!
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April 03 2012 02:28 GMT
#681
No you're right bugs, because nothing is happening there's nothing to talk about.

-.-
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April 03 2012 02:30 GMT
#682
How about this: let's assume no flip based on the activity right now.

Beyond pushing Palmar hard for contributions (which EVERYONE should be doing tomorrow) what do you think we should be looking at first when deciding who to feed to the flames?
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April 03 2012 02:53 GMT
#685
On April 03 2012 11:50 Snarfs wrote:
I think one thing stands out the most in Wiggles' filter: Aside from the parts you made bold, he's being very diplomatic.

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All the claims coming out are silly. Half of you aren't even under a ton of pressure, and that makes your claims even more nonsensical. Looking at you, Palmar and risk.nuke. Palmar claimed because someone guessed his role. risk.nuke claimed... just because, from what I can see.

He uses the word 'silly' to push Palmar and risk.nuke... hardly putting pressure on if that's what was intended.

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People have been saying Mattchew has been pushing a lot for Palmar to get the item, so if that's true, and Palmar's telling the truth, then that makes him look a lot worse. Same thing with others strongly supporting going for the item with Palmar. We'll have to look at them all.

Doesn't outright say what he's thinking here.

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So, Syllo>Shrubbles, but I'd like them both to post more, so I can get a more concrete read.

Fair enough, need them to post more, but again not really taking a stance.

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I think either of Mattchew or Bluelightz are good targets for my push, and I'd probably go with Bluelightz.

Again, it just seems kind of... weak. Like he's not trying to actually pressure anyone or find any scum.


Looking at JubJub day 1, he seems a little more aggressive and more willing to call people out for doing dumb things.

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What the hell? How's there no harm in someone asking you for your role? Why would another townie want to know your role, or more importantly need to know your role? If you're a townie, and you're rolefishing, you're just being dumb. You look like scum.


To be fair, everything you just said points toward a scumWiggles - scum are going to say things you agree with...if they didn't, they'd be really easy to find every game wouldn't they?

But fair enough, thank you for your thoughts sir. Keep everything you just said in mind tomorrow.

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Caller, why haven't you actually been pushing for Jackal's lynch if you want to kill him?


etc.

I wouldn't put him at the top of my scum list though because I've agreed with some of the points he actually has made (ie. there was no reason to assume Palmar was the best person to get the item, people shouldn't necessarily have been tossing claims out) AND I think that some people who have played more games with him will be better judges than I can be of his behaviour.

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April 03 2012 02:54 GMT
#686
EBWOP

On April 03 2012 11:50 Snarfs wrote:
I think one thing stands out the most in Wiggles' filter: Aside from the parts you made bold, he's being very diplomatic.

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All the claims coming out are silly. Half of you aren't even under a ton of pressure, and that makes your claims even more nonsensical. Looking at you, Palmar and risk.nuke. Palmar claimed because someone guessed his role. risk.nuke claimed... just because, from what I can see.

He uses the word 'silly' to push Palmar and risk.nuke... hardly putting pressure on if that's what was intended.

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People have been saying Mattchew has been pushing a lot for Palmar to get the item, so if that's true, and Palmar's telling the truth, then that makes him look a lot worse. Same thing with others strongly supporting going for the item with Palmar. We'll have to look at them all.

Doesn't outright say what he's thinking here.

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So, Syllo>Shrubbles, but I'd like them both to post more, so I can get a more concrete read.

Fair enough, need them to post more, but again not really taking a stance.

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I think either of Mattchew or Bluelightz are good targets for my push, and I'd probably go with Bluelightz.

Again, it just seems kind of... weak. Like he's not trying to actually pressure anyone or find any scum.


Looking at JubJub day 1, he seems a little more aggressive and more willing to call people out for doing dumb things.

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What the hell? How's there no harm in someone asking you for your role? Why would another townie want to know your role, or more importantly need to know your role? If you're a townie, and you're rolefishing, you're just being dumb. You look like scum.



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Caller, why haven't you actually been pushing for Jackal's lynch if you want to kill him?


etc.

I wouldn't put him at the top of my scum list though because I've agreed with some of the points he actually has made (ie. there was no reason to assume Palmar was the best person to get the item, people shouldn't necessarily have been tossing claims out) AND I think that some people who have played more games with him will be better judges than I can be of his behaviour.


To be fair, everything you just said points toward a scumWiggles - scum are going to say things you agree with...if they didn't, they'd be really easy to find every game wouldn't they?

But fair enough, thank you for your thoughts sir. Keep everything you just said in mind tomorrow.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 03:21 GMT
#689
Ya, I hope I don't regret it. -.- So far I'm having buyer's remorse.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 03:25 GMT
#690
He promised to at least try to put something down in-thread before he bit it - he failed to do even that. His ass better be fucking stellar tomorrow or we push him over the edge BEFORE we discuss who we want to incinerate.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 03:30 GMT
#693
I'm okay with any of those 4 dying (syllo, Sbrubbles, Wiggles or cascades) - they all have about the same chance of flipping scum as far as I'm concerned (pretty high). Personally I prefer a syllo/Wiggles double-kill...but that's not feasible with current activity.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 03:42 GMT
#697
In 20 minutes guy, way to suck.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 03:52 GMT
#700
Yeah we cleared that up. I moved a spot myself, cause I'm hardass like that.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 04:00 GMT
#703
Yeah, it's just a part of my role...nothing super-crazy.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 03 2012 04:44 GMT
#709
GEEEEEE GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 09 2012 23:06 GMT
#1562
You're right Mementoss. That is what she said.

Le sigh. GG scum. Syllo, I'll get you lynched next time. I SWEAR IT!!!! *oldmanfist*

Wiggles, I'm not sure what I was thinking. I still like ur face.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 10 2012 05:42 GMT
#1582
Syllo we were having this discussion in-thread and I KNEW this was your actual opinion in spite of you being scum.

Why in a game where it's possible for everyone to die at once is it poor role design to have a role that could possibly confirm 5 people? Especially when it's so unlikely that it could even happen when the positions are randomly generated, why does it seem "imbalanced" to have a role that can confirm that many people?

The other thing, as I'm sure you've heard or thought of because you're like super-smart, is that it doesn't work like other DT checks in that if there's 5 people around him and the light's red, it's really actually kinda anti-town in that it could be 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 scum around him...which is the exact odds of there being scum around him IN THE FIRST PLACE unless I'm mistaken...only worse for the rest of town because they don't know if they can actually trust the claim.

As I said in the game, I think you're view is biased on that role because you got caught in the red light.

ROXANNE
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 10 2012 05:48 GMT
#1584
Well, not clear enough apparently sir. NOT CLEAR ENOUGH.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2012 06:42 GMT
#1607
Town with VE Dead


In spite of him being totally useless, I don't regret putting myself on the line to save Palmar. Not only did my actions reveal mafia members, but we forced their night-kill as well meaning they didn't kill a town-PR who actually had the potential to do something.

I hope the new players don't come away from this thinking they were mocked or something for being so bad - I hope they take away from it just how important it is to read the thread and to really understand what's going on. Even a normal game of Mafia isn't something you can just come in, once-over the current page and comment on, and this was from its very inception designed to be MUCH harder than a normal game of Mafia.

Thanks again Ace for hosting, I really did enjoy this game.
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