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On March 27 2012 04:03 Dirkzor wrote: I betting that VE and Blazinghand have 50% of the post by the end of day1. =) 5 silver liquid money on that! If that weren't against the rules, I'd take that bet. | ||
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I'm trying out a new style this game, etc. etc. I'm almost ALWAYS watching the thread, even if I'm not posting, etc. etc. | ||
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ATTENTION SCUM! IT WILL BE IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO PUT ME ON THE BACK FOOT IMMEDIATELY! IF YOU ATTEMPT TO HIDE I WILL FIND YOU! That being said, I'm in favor of lynching a lurker if we can't find a good scum candidate (fat chance) and I'm not in favor of lynching "liars". Lynching is for killing scum, not for punishing "bad play". "But VE, isn't lynching a lurker the same thing as lynching to punish bad play?" No kind sir, lurking isn't just bad play...lurking is a very viable strategy that scum often employ to hide. For my part, I'll be keeping my eye on C_C and to a lesser extent BH due to them being among the only names I recognize as players who have played more than like 2 games here. This is one of the first games I've played where the average experience level is so low...so I'm probably not going to be on the offensive as much this game...but I make no guarantees. | ||
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On March 27 2012 07:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote: As town, it's hard to stay with a solid stance. Games change, and ultimately these little things never seem to come up anyway. As mafia, having a solid stance and sticking with it is basically a free pass. Ultimately, 'lurking' and 'lying' are only a fraction of a persons play. However, if it's a stance you want: In my experience, the moment you bother lynching the lurkers is the moment you know mafia are in control of the game, especially if it's done sooner. If we can conclusively prove someone was lying, that person should be suspect in the first place, and automatically be rated higher than lurkers. /salute I was really referring to your underhanded accusation of my first post, but I appreciate your opinions on the matters I brought up earlier. I kinda disagree on the bolded statement though. While it's harder to catch scum who have conviction in their posts, the fact of the matter is that they have to fake-scumhunt...so if someone is so adamant about their opinions, it will become clear pretty quickly if it's based on actual reasoning or if it's just a show. | ||
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On March 27 2012 08:27 slOosh wrote: It shouldn't be at all different no? Actually I've been meaning to ask a similar question. Does a closed-setup in general change basic scumhunting principles or do they just allow/favor different styles of play? All a closed setup means is that you should be extremely skeptical of roleclaims because scum likely either know more about the setup than we do or are more willing to gambit on a fake-claim. Otherwise, most scumhunting tactics should remain about the same. If something is suspicious, call it out. | ||
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On March 27 2012 09:33 Bluelightz wrote: Err, I'm here guys like everyone else, I don't like policy lynches. Busting out Fixed that for ya. Nothing suspicious so far Blue? Not even by 'early' standards? | ||
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On March 27 2012 09:52 Nemesis wrote: Yo VE why you so scum this game, I'm getting my gun ready for you. Maybe if you accompanied your question with reasoning as to why I'm "so scum this game" instead of empty threats, I'd be more inclined to answer your question fully. What part of my play so far indicates that I'm "so scum"? | ||
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On March 27 2012 10:21 EchelonTee wrote: ayo, I've played like 6 games. most of the people here are over 3 games, don't get all tunnel vision'd worrying about vets b/c it's the less conspicious new scum who will slip by. be on the offensive, I like the feisty VE more than whatever else you'd pull out Oh ET, how could I have missed your name? I'll be sure to keep an overly scrutinizing eye on you as well if it makes you feel better. No, my feist-level should be about average - I was more referring to my activity level. But, as you can tell, that shouldn't be much of an issue either. | ||
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On March 27 2012 11:24 gonzaw wrote: Got back from uni. Let's hunt some nazis. I doubt I need to ask 100 questions to everybody, considering this is a smaller game, so don't worry about that too much. I'll try not to "hurt your eyes" this time I think it's obvious that nobody likes lurkers, but lurking alone doesn't mean they should be lynched immediately. It just means you need to call them out, make them contribute, and put them under more scrutiny than other players, since they can easily fly unnoticed. @VE: I have to agree with johnny here, why do you prod someone about taking stances 1 post into the game? Even as pressure that doesn't seem very helpful. Also, I'd recomend nobody even slightly hint what nationality they are from. As far as I know, town don't get ANY information whatsoever if someone is US or SU, but scum can use that info to try and get their alternative win-con. So no nationality claims, nor any hint to them. If you have to claim just claim your role and nothing else. I'll prod whomever I want whenever I want for whatever reason whether you think it's helpful for you or not gonzaw. Now, let's talk about this generic/obvious advice you gave. I know why you did it (glare @ C_C) but the part that concerns me is bolded in your quote. As a member of town, I happen to know for a FACT that I don't know what "nationality" people are. So that begs the question...why preface your "advice" with the statement "As far as I know..."? It seems to me like you're trying too hard to appear clueless. | ||
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On March 27 2012 11:48 Sinensis wrote: Also, I work every day from at least 5pm to 10pm EST. I will post very consistently after work near 10pm. So VisceraEyes, "what's" "with" "all" "these" "quotation" "marks" you use whenever you talk about "liars" or "scum" or "bad play"? Several Examples + Show Spoiler + On March 27 2012 07:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Cool guys, am I really one of the only "vets" in this game? ATTENTION SCUM! IT WILL BE IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO PUT ME ON THE BACK FOOT IMMEDIATELY! IF YOU ATTEMPT TO HIDE I WILL FIND YOU! That being said, I'm in favor of lynching a lurker if we can't find a good scum candidate (fat chance) and I'm not in favor of lynching "liars". Lynching is for killing scum, not for punishing "bad play". "But VE, isn't lynching a lurker the same thing as lynching to punish bad play?" No kind sir, lurking isn't just bad play...lurking is a very viable strategy that scum often employ to hide. For my part, I'll be keeping my eye on C_C and to a lesser extent BH due to them being among the only names I recognize as players who have played more than like 2 games here. This is one of the first games I've played where the average experience level is so low...so I'm probably not going to be on the offensive as much this game...but I make no guarantees. On March 27 2012 08:14 VisceraEyes wrote: Yes, lying is situational and obviously we need to scrutinze any inconsistencies we find...but lynching by policy anyone found to have been untruthful about anything? Not today sir. Not ever as far as I'm concerned. If someone is scummy because they lied, they should be scummy for other reasons. If someone's lying is the only thing that makes them "scummy", then I'm not on-board with a lynch of said person. That's what I meant by "I'm not in favor of lynching "liars". Policy lynches, on the whole, are a bad idea and allow scum to control the lynch. On March 27 2012 10:07 VisceraEyes wrote: Maybe if you accompanied your question with reasoning as to why I'm "so scum this game" instead of empty threats, I'd be more inclined to answer your question fully. What part of my play so far indicates that I'm "so scum"? On March 27 2012 11:38 VisceraEyes wrote: I'll prod whomever I want whenever I want for whatever reason whether you think it's helpful for you or not gonzaw. Now, let's talk about this generic/obvious advice you gave. I know why you did it (glare @ C_C) but the part that concerns me is bolded in your quote. As a member of town, I happen to know for a FACT that I don't know what "nationality" people are. So that begs the question...why preface your "advice" with the statement "As far as I know..."? It seems to me like you're trying too hard to appear clueless. What a perfectly useless "question"! Perhaps I have "quotation tourettes" and can't help "myself". Perhaps I'm "communicating" with my "scum-team" in code, in spite of the fact that if I were scum I'd have a "quicktopic" or something to "communicate" with them in. Perhaps you're trying to appear to be helpful. Perhaps you can comment on something useful. Perhaps not. <3 | ||
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I have a conversational style of posting, so if you see a word in quotes, you should envision me making finger-quotes around any single words that are in quotes...if that helps. | ||
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So no, that's not the intent at all. If it bothers you, I can try to tone it down, but I make no guarantees. I have a style of posting that works for me. | ||
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Now cut out the dramatics or I'll join the jubjubs and scum in lynching you...even if you're town. | ||
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If anyone is interested in lynching scum, perhaps I could interest you in a hot juicy Cyber_Cheese. On March 27 2012 07:41 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Alright boys, lets do this. Something about this seems suss. Compensating for some sort of guilt perhaps? The important part of this post is the flag. At first I thought that Cyber_Cheese was idiotically claiming his nationality. But after rereading his play in L and seeing his posting so far, I'm finding this less and less likely. If C_C were town, I feel like he wouldn't have included any kind of clue that would hint at giving scum information, as most of the first posts by other players so far have done. It just makes more sense to try and keep scum in the dark. On March 27 2012 07:49 Cyber_Cheese wrote: As town, it's hard to stay with a solid stance. Games change, and ultimately these little things never seem to come up anyway. As mafia, having a solid stance and sticking with it is basically a free pass. Ultimately, 'lurking' and 'lying' are only a fraction of a persons play. However, if it's a stance you want: In my experience, the moment you bother lynching the lurkers is the moment you know mafia are in control of the game, especially if it's done sooner. If we can conclusively prove someone was lying, that person should be suspect in the first place, and automatically be rated higher than lurkers. Taking this into account, this post looks terrible, and here's why: in the initial post, he had made an underhanded accusation of me trying to hide some sort of underlying guilt by a show of bravado or something, and when I called him out on it rather than continue that line of thinking any further he responds as he should have in the first place and comments on the content in my post. Which begs the question: why did he attack me in the first place? What was the point? I'd been one of the few to actually post in the game so far, what's the point of raising suspicion of someone if you're not even going to respond back when asked? My vote is going on Cyber_Cheese and if you're town, I'd go my early interactions with him and tell me what you think. ##Vote: Cyber_Cheese | ||
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Jackal wrote: Hi guys. Allow me to preface this with the following caveats: 1. I don't care if you like me. 2. I don't care if you think I'm arrogant, belligerent, ignorant, or any other kind of 'ent/ant 3. I'm not here to be your friend. 4. If I hurt your precious feelings you need to start spending more time in the real world. 5. I'm here to kill scum 6. I will not coddle you in the process. Now that we have that out of the way I'm going to speak my mind. 75% of you suck. That is a simple truth. There is no such thing as a "useless townie". That line of thinking stops right here. RIGHT NOW. You all get that? I hope you got that. If you wish to push it any more you are scum. The only useless townies are inactives that will be modkilled. If an individual is posting things you don't agree with, or you think are off the mark, or you think are scummy by all means call them out on it. But stop analyzing people you think are useless townies. If they are town they are not useless. You dumbshits are going to "useless" townie us right into oblivion.Stop fucking doing it. The only thing you are doing is giving scum a place to hide. The only useless townies are the ones calling others useless townies. Fucking stop it. Morons. Do not base your analysis on people that piss you off. We just lost the goddamned batman because some fucking moron had a fucking hardon at BC. I understand that this game creates emotional responses from people. You dumbshits have to understand that sometimes people are looking for emotional responses. Scum love to stir the pot. If I call you stupid look at the reason why I called you stupid. Odds are if you step back you will realize that yes what you said was stupid. Stupidity does not make people scummy. Calling a persons post stupid does not make that person scummy. It happens get the fuck over it. Scummy behavior lies in wanting to kill people for stupid shallow reasons. Scum do not have to pressure people. Us townies do that all by ourselves. Scum simply look for the opportunity to go along for the ride. Stop driving the fucking bus. If you see a post that seems to push a scum agenda bring it to our attention Stop trying to get people lynched because you think they are stupid. Odds are if a person appears stupid it's because they are stupid. Not because they are scum. So please stop trying to massage your fucking collective egos. Actually everybody right now take your ego and fold it up into a little square and wipe your ass with it. Then flush it. You'll know where to find it when the game is over. I am in a mason circle that did include BC. This circle is not of my doing. As far as I know atm nobody in it is the benefactor that included all of us. BC had the best analysis of this game to this point. "General opinion is people are fucktards." I could not have said it better. Bum can confirm this. He's in the circle with me. I will not out the others. If they wish to claim it's on them. Don't ask me to. We need to use Bum as an asset. A lot of you are going to call this differently. As of right now I believe towns best interest lies in using Bum until the time comes where he has to play for his win condition. When that moment arrives I have no problem with kicking him to the curb. I probably have another million things to add but I don't remember wtf they are. Bottom line is - Town,Stop being fucking morons. Start looking for scum instead of people that piss you off or you deem as useless. Fucking morons. Yours truly, Jackal58 It changed the way I viewed this game, and it made me realize something very important: there's no such thing as a useless townie. Someone actively bad at the game, who disagrees with obvious townies and helps scum push their objectives, even they help town by BEING ALIVE. Scum's win-condition is based on NUMBERS. That's why they say the lynch is town's greatest weapon: because scum can't stop the lynch by any means. If we start feeding "useless townies" to the lynch, then that reduces town's number by one, putting scum one step closer to victory. In short, I don't know yet if johnnywup is scum, but he's certainly not scummy enough to lynch yet. DEFINITELY not for the reasons Blazinghand has stated. | ||
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Go look at my case on C_C. I realize you're trying to ignore me because you disagree with my tactics, but have a little faith. Go take a look. | ||
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So yeah dude, go read the beginning of C9++. I had similar reservations. Luckily, I had the wisdom to admit that I might be wrong and we nailed Jackal as scum D1. | ||
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On March 27 2012 16:59 Blazinghand wrote: Other than C_C's half-assed half-quote of me, he hasn't posted anything of any substance except: I concur with VE that this is a troubling post. I do not like that C_C soft-claimed his nationality. As a town player this is either a huge mistake or some kind of shitty gambit. As a scum player, this is... I don't even know what this is. I eagerly anticipate C_C's reasoning for this post. I mean, he could be fishing for town players to hint at their nationality. He could be trying to buy insta-cred with anyone who actually is SU...there are any number of possible scum motivations for doing this and very few town motivations. Hence my vote. If you're bored with C_C, perhaps you could be convinced to look over one gonzaw? Something feels off about that guy too, I'm looking over him myself. | ||
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On March 27 2012 22:32 gonzaw wrote: @VE: So, did that "prodding" of yours help at all or something? You "proded" several people based on some pointless stuff, but you never dwelled back on it again IIRC I've found the responses to my prods exceedingly helpful in my personal hunt for scum. I've placed a vote on who I think is scum the most so far, and you've failed to comment on or even acknowledge that fact. Please do so. Go look at C_C and tell me what you think before you ask me useless questions again. | ||
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On March 27 2012 23:19 Bluelightz wrote: Hmm VE Good Point, Gonna read some others though, as for my scum read, what do you think of cccalf's response to my post? It seems like a perfectly reasonable new-player response. If he continues to be useless, feel free to shoot him in the face if you're a vig. I don't want to lynch him yet, though...perhaps if he continues to be useless until deadline he'll be a more attractive lynch, but likely not if we have some decent scum suspects. What do you think about gonzaw? | ||
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I don't like the smell of it. It smells like....SCUM | ||
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You two need to post your thoughts on my case against C_C in detail and give your thoughts on my other scum-read gonzaw. | ||
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On March 27 2012 23:52 zelblade wrote: VE any thoughts on ET? So far ET seems reasonable enough and willing to get involved in conversation. At the present time I'm not considering him for today's lynch myself. | ||
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Anyways, was just trying to follow protocol Hesmyrr...my bad. XD | ||
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On March 28 2012 00:31 MrZentor wrote: His last post doesn't seem nearly as suspicious as his first two. He is either a nooby town or a nooby mafia, and it's really hard to tell which. I think it would be better to lynch C_C for now. The italicized I disagree with. Here's why. Think about why he's posting it. I'll post it here for convenience. On March 27 2012 22:32 gonzaw wrote: BH, I see you are still the overly-aggressive asshole from usual right? I don't know what that initial stupid outburst from yours was about, but it produced some reactions and that's fine, but you need to stop these emotional outbursts of yours since they don't help anyone. If you are scum it's also easy to fake them to instill chaos, so stop. I think I said this in Aperture Mafia as well. I see nothing wrong with johnys posts or his "case" against you, you acted very odd and there's nothing wrong in him calling you out. The subsequent bickering between you two was kind of useless and only cluttered things up. You can't infer johnys alignment from that bickering, you need to let him make other reads, contribute about other topics, and see what he does and how he does it. Continuing an argument based on some pointless thing will make it impossible for anyone to do so. However BH, you were going against Nemensis (for some stupid reason like him waking up to post or something), and then you completely ignored him. Why's that? Do you still think Nemensis is scum for those reasons or were they part of your "show" to "pressure" and shit? I find you are acting like in Aperture, being so confident and aggressive; which makes me think you are likely town. However I haven't seen you be scum (in a non-Resistance game), and you pushing that attitude of yours worries me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @VE: So, did that "prodding" of yours help at all or something? You "proded" several people based on some pointless stuff, but you never dwelled back on it again IIRC @Echelon: What's with your weird wording? Saying things like "hip hip hurrah!" or "you are crAAAzy" and that weird attitude of yours? I don't remember you ever playing like that, seems you may be trolling or something. @Bluelightz: You say ET is town and pressed people to post, do you have anything to back that up? Although I see you are posting lists now though P.S: There, I used the "-----" line breaks you guys always love >_> Look at the size of this post sir. Take a good look at it. Now see if you can tell me after reading it again who gonzaw thinks is scum. + Show Spoiler [My Guess] + You can't If you can, it's because you're assuming something based on what he says, but he never actually says that he thinks anyone is scum. Is he suspicious of me? His post seems to be mildly discrediting me (unclear of the point of my posts, asking if it has helped though not apparently interested in the results, negative language like "pointless" and "dwelled"). Not to mention the fact that it's clear that he's not even reading the thread fully, which I'm assuming because he commented @me but didn't comment on my largest contribution OR my vote so far. He's dancing around issues that should matter to actual townies, while spreading doubt simultaneously (read: BH, VE, Blue, ET). This is the most suspicious post he's made so far MrZentor. What do you think about that? | ||
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Further, he immediately backed off of me in spite of my behavior not changing (arguably my confidence/bravado has gotten worse since the post he quoted) when I asked him about it. He never even mentions it again. Add to that the fact that he's been eerily silent during the goings-on today and I'd say he's by far the best candidate for the day. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese gonzaw ...for reasons I've stated previously. Neither C_C nor gonzaw appear to be interested in finding scum, only spreading doubt. One or both of them are scum. I'll lynch either one without mercy. | ||
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Finding scum isn't a priority for you. Prove me wrong. Vote C_C. | ||
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Townies vote. Townies try and find scum. You're trying to slither out of the spotlight. Just tell us who your teammates are and we'll kill you last. | ||
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On March 28 2012 04:14 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Put simply, why should he feel the need to state he's like everyone else? Pointing out townies and asking for discussion isn't as helpful as it seems. Neither is pointing out that fact. However, he stated that he's willing to lynch you which you seem to have glazed over. That, by definition, is as helpful as it seems. Blatant buddying. He also shouldn't need to state that he's watching for suspicious posts, because townies should be doing it anyway. How is it buddying saying you agree with someone? He even gave further input. It's not like he was like "You know what, I trust you on this one" or something, which would be blatant buddying and sheeping - he gave his own reasoning in addition to agreeing with something said. There's nothing indicative of scum here, and the fact that you "think" there is tells a lot about how much you care about finding real scum. Does anything about that post suggest he's pushing scum to anyone? Yeah - the post you bolded there. The part where he says "I push targets I feel scummy and you are one". That pretty much says exactly that he's pushing scum. Combine those with the fact he's already getting called pro-town by a bunch of people. What does this have to say about his alignment at all?! Are you suggesting that the people calling him pro-town are all scum trying to protect him or something? What you're saying isn't even making any sense. Conclusion: Scum. Scum indeed. Also of particular interest to me are Gonzaw and Johnnywup. My responses to your bluelightz case are bolded. You're going to be lynched today, if you're town you'd better come up with some better reasoning than this if you expect to save yourself. I expected more C_C. I am dissapoint. | ||
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Oooooh I sing to ze dead threeeeeaad.... Oooooh lurkers come join ze plaaaaying | ||
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Thanks in advance for your cooperation. | ||
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Precious C_C. Maybe now you can do something useful? Maybe find scum? No? You can die then. | ||
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On March 28 2012 06:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Awww, you felt like you had to defend him. Cute Clearly C_C has said his piece slOosh. It's up to town to decide now. | ||
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C_C's Filter from L Just peruse the first few pages and then come back in here and say that again with a straight face. He doesn't give a shit about finding scum in this game, and is only posting enough to alleviate suspicion (see: yourself). He's being intentionally thick in regards to his case (unwilling to even comment on my rebuttal) and he's being intentionally vague about his reasoning behind posting the flag he posted in his first post. Look again johnny: I think you've got a good thing goin there with ET, but we can only lynch one at a time and presently C_C has the most support. | ||
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On March 28 2012 07:59 Bluelightz wrote: I said I'm going to vote either CC, gonzaw, or cccalf so, ##Vote: Cyber_Cheese IF we DONT want to lynch Cyber_Cheese, I would like to lynch cccalf, this guy has NO substance whatsoever, This guy needs to die. I'd rather leave people with no content to die to vigs (assuming vigs). If he's still alive tomorrow and still not contributing, I'd be much more willing to throw him on the docket. | ||
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##Unvote: Cyber_Cheese ##Vote: EchelonTees You should have told me so last game, I wouldn't have tried to help you so much like a fucking idiot. | ||
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How about you tell me WHY it's shit rather than just ignoring what I say and ignoring the evidence? "I don't like meta" Oh really? That's not what you said in C9++ where we SMOKED THE FUCK OUT OF SCUM TOGETHER. I'm pissed off because you fooled me into thinking you're town, but your actions in the last 15 minutes have shown me that you're actually, in fact, the last scum. /facepalm You broke my heart jdub. </3 | ||
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On March 27 2012 16:00 VisceraEyes wrote: Anyway... If anyone is interested in lynching scum, perhaps I could interest you in a hot juicy Cyber_Cheese. The important part of this post is the flag. At first I thought that Cyber_Cheese was idiotically claiming his nationality. But after rereading his play in L and seeing his posting so far, I'm finding this less and less likely. If C_C were town, I feel like he wouldn't have included any kind of clue that would hint at giving scum information, as most of the first posts by other players so far have done. It just makes more sense to try and keep scum in the dark. Taking this into account, this post looks terrible, and here's why: in the initial post, he had made an underhanded accusation of me trying to hide some sort of underlying guilt by a show of bravado or something, and when I called him out on it rather than continue that line of thinking any further he responds as he should have in the first place and comments on the content in my post. Which begs the question: why did he attack me in the first place? What was the point? I'd been one of the few to actually post in the game so far, what's the point of raising suspicion of someone if you're not even going to respond back when asked? My vote is going on Cyber_Cheese and if you're town, I'd go my early interactions with him and tell me what you think. ##Vote: Cyber_Cheese This was my initial case, which was strong enough as it was. Indications from C_C's first two posts:
Ever since then, he's only strengthened my case: go look at his case on Bluelightz, it's laughably bad. I responded to every point and all he had to say to that was "Awww, he's defending him". He's not interested in finding scum with us, and he's doing a piss-poor job of pretending to be interested in helping us. And then, there's meta. So whatever the hell you're talking about "not seeing a connection to being scum", keep it. Push your ET train and we'll see what happens with it. I'm gonna vote for C_C because he's scum and he's gonna fucking die today. If you stand in my way, you'll have to explain your reluctance after he flips scum. I'm fully prepared to explain my enthusiasm if he flips town. | ||
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@jdub Dude, it's fine - just try and think in terms of 'why' rather than 'what'. Actions are important, but the motivations are what separate town from scum. | ||
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Ooooooh I sing of joyous tidiiiiings when we lynch Cheeeeeeese... | ||
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bate 1 (bt) tr.v. bat·ed, bat·ing, bates 1. To lessen the force or intensity of; moderate: "To his dying day he bated his breath a little when he told the story" (George Eliot). See Usage Note at bait1. 2. To take away; subtract. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [Cyber_Cheese] + + Show Spoiler [johnnywup and Bluelightz] + gg | ||
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On March 28 2012 12:27 Sinensis wrote: I consider myself reasonable and I have a read on his alignment. I think he's a nazi. Based on votes, 5 other people thing he's a nazi. QFFT | ||
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C_C is the lynch today BH. If you disagree, you're obviously scum. Period. Are you scum BH? | ||
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GG scum. If your name is on this list and you're town, you need to be doing something different. When C_C flips scum, we're just LYNCHIN DOWN THE LIIIIIIINE unless something changes. BH is last because of anyone he's putting in the most effort. I reward effort with asylum...but my patience only goes so far. | ||
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GG sir. | ||
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I can't control anyone's vote. That's the big secret. But I'm on a fucking bender finding scum. Say what you want about my tactics. Luck only gets you so far. | ||
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Every one of them guys. | ||
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<3 I'm done with this argument. It's going nowhere. | ||
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Now, if you'd do something...such as vote for C_C and grant Jdub time to prove his alignment further to you (because your Jdub wagon is going nowhere you idiot)...then maybe the reasons I think you're scum would......DISAPPEAR. Like magic, see? You're being ridiculous, and I think that it means you're scum. *shrug* Now stop being abrasive and vote for C_C please. | ||
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Yes, I exaggerated when I said you "claimed scum" BH. Is that what you want to hear? That I have pressured you, in the same manner that I've pressured everyone else in this game, by exaggerating something you've said? Quit being a baby and play the game BH. | ||
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On March 28 2012 13:53 Blazinghand wrote: ##unvote ##vote johnnywup /facepalm Now he's gonna claim. You're an ass BH. | ||
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Or I'm completely wrong. We'll know in a few hours. | ||
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On March 28 2012 14:06 Sinensis wrote: Every game I have played with Bluelightz this happens. I would go so far as to say voting for Bluelightz day 1 is a scum tell on TL mafia. I only played a couple, but he literally did claim scum last game. Seems like a much more involved and active Blue this game. | ||
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What do you guys think of froggynoddy? I know he doesn't have many posts, but please do your best with what he's posted. | ||
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Whatever I'm gonna sleep on it. Attention Non-Voters: Cyber_Cheese is the most pro-town, green imbuing lynch of the day. If you want to have lots and lots of town-cred, and be free of suspicion forever, Cyber_Cheese is the lynch candidate for you! No activity? No problem! Stop by and place your vote TODAY! | ||
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I'm sorry I'm intimidating...but I think you'll find that I'm cuddly...like the world's softest cuddliest grizzly bear. | ||
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Hopefully this explains some of my actions. | ||
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I think Cyber_Cheese is scum. I think he needs to hang today because he's one of only a few people that I'm even considering are scum at this point. So my vote is on him. But your vote is yours to do with what you wish. If you disagree that C_C is scum, then I don't WANT your vote. At any rate, I think you should go read C_C's filter in L. I understand the resistance to meta, but you really should at least take a look. It's like night and day. | ||
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C_C is NOT as new as JW. C_C should know better than to play the way he is. Jdub is still learning what is and isn't suspicious, what is and isn't acceptable and what is and isn't important. C_C knows these things - he was in L, a game where pure scumhunters took down almost an entire scumteam. | ||
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Food for thought. | ||
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Well played scum. | ||
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He wanted me dead (obv) JW and gonzaw. He wasn't helpful and he was trolling the fuck out of town. I don't regret killing him. I just wish he'd been more helpful. | ||
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If you honestly believe that I have any kind of control over town after what just happened, you're smoking something I want some of. | ||
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On March 29 2012 07:16 EchelonTee wrote: what happened to that poetic "no townie is useless" thingamabob? i thought killing "unhelpful" townies was bad or something? Killing unhelpful townies for the sake of killing unhelpful townies is bad. I don't regret a bad townie dying because I honestly thought he was scum. | ||
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-.- I hate being sure of something only to be wrong. | ||
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On March 29 2012 08:55 Bluelightz wrote: ._., cccalf needs to die tommorow. I refuse to disagree with this statement. | ||
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I'm taking a look at the C_C wagon. At the very least 2 and probably more scum are on the wagon. | ||
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Just FYI Do something useful. | ||
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And I've already said - my full thoughts are going to come closer to deadline. | ||
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Cool. Good luck sir. | ||
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No, go fuck yourself BH. If you're town, find scum without me. I'll be trollin and votin. Good luck | ||
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So get the fuck out of there with your "lol most ineffective town leader EVAR" BULLSHIT because it's A) completely untrue and B) demeaning as fuck. | ||
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I don't even care anymore. If scum don't shoot me, BH is scum, as is zelblade and cccalf. Find the last and we win. gg | ||
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Good shit. | ||
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Why are you pretending to care what I think when you've made it clear that my analyisis is a fucking joke and I'm useless as shit? OH I KNOW!!! I KNOW!!!! IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE SCUM!!!! | ||
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Lacking that, I felt the need to provide a strong voice for those who are less than willing to read and think to follow if they wished. Admittedly that came across as a little harsher than I'd intended, but there you have it. So yeah, you could say that I "disagree with the thrust of your argument". I also think you're scum. | ||
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I'm not playing with you in this state BH. Get over it. You were much more enjoyable as scum when you didn't have to be afraid of dying (Resistance 2) | ||
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I'm not doing shit overnight. If I'm still alive in the morning I'll push for your lynch. Until then anything I say is a waste because you're expending a terrible amount of pressure to discredit anything I say. Fuck that. I'd rather do it after I've survived the night. | ||
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Well played scum. Nice snipe of BH. | ||
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gg srsly. Thx Hosts for game - was fun. I think it was a little balanced in favor of scum though. | ||
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On April 04 2012 07:59 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I was going to congratulate VE on good scum play, before he flipped. This is why you have to completely ignore who's a 'veteran' and who isn't, they're still just players in the game Figures I was right about VE being a soviet (see also, position in the graph) If it wasnt obvious, most of that graph was random, I threw VE and BH near me, and blue on scum Being right about Blue <3<3<3 If I was thinking on day 1 enough, my vote would have ended on blue, and the scientist would have been a power role. The rest of my day 1 could have been improved. CHEESE IF YOU HAD PUT ONE IOTA OF EFFORT INTO THE FUCKING GAME.... ...................gg | ||
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Of course, then I might have had medic protection. All and all, I'm satisfied with my play. Having sank quite a few towns with my shitty town play, I think making scum really fucking nervous every game is a vast improvement. | ||
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It was a nickname that started in C9++. | ||
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And when I have as strong a read as I did on C_C, it wasn't even about getting people to take my reads seriously anymore...it was about getting the scum to hang. After C_C flipped, I knew that any reads I posted were worthless unless I survived the night and could continue playing. Like, if I'd survived, scum would have probably opposed me fast and hard right? So regardless of the fact that I had led a scum-lynch D1, I'd be under heavy scrutiny D2 as a result and my reads would have actually had weight. | ||
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Keep defending his "play", needlessly. All you're doing is making it appear okay to the rest of town who DID care and WAS trying, which is non-productive and doesn't help anyone. | ||
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I mean, In a community like this where there are people with like, YEARS of experience and people with ZERO experience, there's bound to be an imbalance in skill somewhere...but the answer is NEVER "give up, let that guy find the scum". Ever. | ||
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