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On March 20 2012 14:26 Hesmyrr wrote: dumbledore kills dumbledore God, how behind on the canon are you? Is this before or after Ginny reveals herself to be a Dementor who all along just wanted to be a real little girl, and sold her soul to voldemort to get her wish. But every 5th night of the 3 month of the 2nd year in a decade, she rises again as a dementor to do her dark lords bidding? | ||
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On March 21 2012 04:49 Curu wrote: Everyone okay with a deadline of 00:00 GMT (+00:00)? I feel like it'd be a bit friendlier to our European players but I'm also a bit worried since west coast players might just be getting off work then. That deadline is fine, its an hour after my game's | ||
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Sand/Syllo can you guys sign you posts? It makes it a lot easier for the rest of us to keep track of who thinks what. Xatalos, I'm interested on what you think about Wherebugsgo/littlefinger. How do you think we should go about interacting with him now that we know he is 3rd party? Also i would like to assure everyone that even though I am hosting Aperture Mafia, the science will not keep me from being active here. | ||
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On March 22 2012 01:35 SamuelLJackson wrote: What part of MODCONFIRMED UNLYNCHABLE/UNKILLABLE do you not understand? Next person that discusses wbg or engages in any useless conversation with him get's my vote. Consider it like he is not even playing in this game. /sandroba Anything else you want to discuss? The game has been going on for so long after all. | ||
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On March 22 2012 01:42 gumshoe wrote: Why waste a hit? I find it hard to believe Scum are going to come forward like that and claim Baelish(it seems to crazy for even a player like Caller) so way I see it where is either a vanilla townie way down below in flea bottom dreaming of some day ruling the kingdom with an iron fist, or hes baelish and we waste a hit/reveal third party to scum. Personally I think we should stay clear of trying to lynch Baelish, unless someone claims there him just before we kill him, in which case they fully deserve to die as we had already decided. If we lynch Where it should be because we think hes scum, not Baelish, do you really think Where is scum this early in the game? It appears I need to add (Sarcasm) to the end of my jokes. | ||
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On March 22 2012 02:14 gumshoe wrote: Fair enough, the players are pretty good so it's probably not necessary, what do you think of Acrofales? Also do we want to elect a mayor? There is no mayor vote unless the mod/daypost says so | ||
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On March 22 2012 02:41 gumshoe wrote: Wasn't aware, always thought mayors were just achieved through consensus. In regard to Acrofales I'm sure your well aware that my sympathies always go to first time townies who fuck up at the start, but his response was just pure ombus, which was similar to sloosh and ech in suprisingly normal mini mafia, yet the difference was in that game Sloosh and Ech kept fighting blow for blow because they knew they were townies, Acrofales just sort of clammed up. He's not fighting hard enough, which first time newbie townies tend to do way too much. I'm down for voting for him not because of his silly ombus, but because he backed down when pressured. Acrofales + Show Spoiler + As for the rest, I've calmed down a bit Townies don't just calm down when their under pressure. He's either blue(which is unlikely considering his ombus) a total noob green(also unlikely because he just dropped his hostile tone when the pressure came down) or scum(the most probable) Acrofales seeing as your lynch is getting to be pretty likely maybe you should role claim? It could help your case, also why did you vote for Mattchew in the first place? ummmmmmmmm, wat? its not even 1/4th through day 1, and we are only 2 pages into the game. A role claim at this point is completely unessesary. I'm suspicious of why you seem so eager for it. | ||
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On March 22 2012 03:04 Alderan wrote: I've played with gumshoe a couple times now, and he always seems to start out slow but then get better and eventually help. He's the kind of person that's going to post enough to eventually hang himself if he is indeed scum, I say we leave him for now. No one gets a "free pass", not in a game that i'm in. Im not going to let someone who posts like that live for long, especially if its on the basis of, Oh he will probably get better, dont worry about it. | ||
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On March 22 2012 03:22 Mattchew wrote: explain to me why you are not scum. you have 90 minutes Explain to us why he is. | ||
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If it wasnt already apparent that the "Guys we should lynch wherebugsgo, just to be sure" was a joke, me saying later that it was should have made it quite clear. But enough of that, At the moment I would much prefer lynching Gumshoe over anyone else at this point. Notice how he jumps on the easiest lynch he can find, and then later he turns into more of a "sympathetic townie" where he give Acro a way out of the lynch (ie. claiming). in this way a Scum Gumshoe would win both ways. He either gets a townie lynched, or gets his role. | ||
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On March 22 2012 03:51 wherebugsgo wrote: herpaderpaherpa If it wasn't already apparent that the "I'm scum therefore I have to vote myself" was a joke, me saying it now should make it clear. But enough of that, At the moment I would much prefer lynching GreYMisT over anyone else at this point. Notice how he jumps on the easiest lynch he can find, and then later he turns into more of a "sympathetic townie" where he gives WBG a way out of the lynch (ie being completely and totally baller). in this way a scum GreYMisT would win both ways. He either gets no one lynched or he gets a townie lynched. This doesnt even work... | ||
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On March 22 2012 03:52 Xatalos wrote: Haha, way to confuse us When I think about it, it didn't seem so serious to begin with, and I didn't think about it too much. Then someone started questioning that statement and got me to also question its meaning. gumshoe... Yeah, he doesn't seem like a bad target. I voted OriginalName earlier though, to make him react somehow, but he's still missing! Can't really get someone to react to a lynch vote if we don't announce it now can we? | ||
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On March 22 2012 07:17 chaoser wrote: This is like the shittiest fake tunneling ever lol. Jackal would be embarrassed if he saw this lol Not to mention wherebugsgo | ||
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On March 22 2012 08:33 DoYouHas wrote: 1. No, not really. Acro's initial posts came off as scummy for reasons I've already mentioned. His posts since have not cleared him in my eyes but they are a big step up from his starting posts. I've left my vote on him because I think he deserves to be under pressure and that pressure produced decent posts from him. Of course, now that I have explained this my vote means very little. 2. I don't like the way mattchew is posting. It is ignoring the fact that not only does he have to prove to himself that he is right, he has to prove to all of us that he is right. His style is alienating people who might agree with him which inherently reduces the value of his posts. You will notice that I am ignoring whether he is right/wrong, scum/town. That is because I don't know. In that last game I was in with him, SNMM7, he had a very similar style and was town. It was equally unhelpful then. So on one hand his meta suggests to me townie, but I find his style to be anti-town. 3. Greymist has pretty clearly aligned himself against Gum/Matt, and for Acro. He has also called BS on a number of things that I think deserved it. Honestly, I expect more from him (also, risk.nuke). Right now I have a null read, but if his trend of small posts continues that will move towards a scum read. 4. I'm going to hold off on that list for a bit. Partially so I can have more time to figure it out, and partially so I can spend more time forming my suspicions and less time defending them. I'd like to clarify on an assumption you are making in here. I am not "for" Acro, I simply do not believe he has as much evidence against him as gum does at this moment in the game. And you base reads solely of the size of one's posts? Thats a bit old fashioned don't you think? | ||
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On March 22 2012 09:41 MrZentor wrote: I don't care if I die or not. I just want to know what you prefer. Why do you care what he prefers? and why would you just ask the unkillable 3rd party randomly if he would like to kill you? There is plenty to talk about now, its beginning to look like you are just communicated for the sake of increasing your filter. | ||
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On March 22 2012 11:00 Alderan wrote: So your win con is centered around the number of people that die this game? Did you not just say this discussion with wherebugsgo needs to stop? ... ...... .......... .................. | ||
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I'm fine with lynching Oberyn or Gumshoe, though it seems I won't get my gummy wish today. ##Unvote: Gumshoe ##Vote: Oberyn | ||
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On March 23 2012 04:19 Alderan wrote: Just threw in a lip. Let's see if I can't make some sense of the drivel so far in this thread (not a knock on anyone, Day 1 always sucks. @risk.nuke: Greymist is suspicious to me yes, but for nearly none of the reasons you provided. His comment on wherebugsgo was a joke, at least that's how I took it when I read it. I don't think it was some secret agenda to try to divert town discussion at all (which notably was the entire point of your huge post). I want to wait on Gumshoe to come back before I comment anymore on Greymist though. @chaoser: No one is trying to give Gumshoe a pass, at least I haven't seen any, but we obviously need more discussion from him. He's been gone since the role claim thing, I'm just not too keen on busting out the pitch forks just yet. @Zealos: Your contributions to the game thus far are as follows: - Identify the 2 most common lynch targets. - Place them into your lynch list. Thats it. That is incredibly scummy. I shouldn't have to elaborate why. @DYH: I'm never a fan of the idea that votes=pressure but I agree that Nicholas uses some pretty shotty logic. The coorlation between risk and Greymist is interesting, and something definitely to take not of, but like I said, I'll be commenting on Greymist more a bit later. Some final thoughts: - I think Mattchew was tunneling Acrofales to put on some pressure, but I think most can agree he's not as scummy as he once seemed. - I know I was the one that brought up Oberyn's name first, but I'm not quite sold, again we need to wait for a response. I guess I have the luxury of being available in the hours running up to the deadline, but I urge everyone not to jump on the band wagon that quickly, use your head. - As per usual, lurkers are killing us right now, we need to keep the conversation going (hence the nature and format of this post). We have time, I'd love to hear what you have to say now. Why do you want to do it later? Waiting for a nice wagon to form? | ||
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On March 23 2012 08:13 Alderan wrote: As for Greymist, I was waiting to say anything because I wanted to read your response post to ensure that I was not wrong on my initial read, and I don't believe I was. That said, I think Greymist is too experienced a player to actually believe a scum would make the mistakes gumshoe made early on. Any semi competent scum team would have identified gumshoe's posting as weak after asking about the mayor, and coached him through his next few posts. Instead Greymist suggested that the scum stood idly by and watched Greymist go blue fishing the very first day..... Right..... You have a misunderstanding about how active some scumteams are about regulating their member's posting. But I will give you that. If you notice I have unvoted Gumshoe and voted Obryn some time ago. One thing I am not comfortable with this game is the posting of Sandro/Syllo. They are playing very erractically, suddenly changing their minds from extreme to extreme. Not enough for me to call for their lynch right off the bat, but come on guys, posting "X is town, Y is Scum" now "Z is Scum, X and Y are both town" are not good enough reasons for me, nor have they ever been. You are coasting on your "vet" status, and many of the newer players are letting you get away with it. I'd like to see what you have done to earn that status. | ||
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You also made a joke at the start of the game, this isn't scummy, just ironic. Evidence against you was already stated in the thread, but I will be happy to provide it again if that is your wish. + Show Spoiler + On March 22 2012 01:57 Oberyn wrote: I definitely agree with this. We shouldn't allow players to pretend to contribute by speculating on a role that has little impact on the events of the first few days. If wherebugsgo wants to coordinate with town to somehow mutually achieve our goals, then that's fine, but otherwise it is best to ignore him. If you want to discuss policy, then why are you just giving a bunch of questions? You should share what your actual opinion is. A no-lynch should be out of the question as this person suggests: We don't accomplish anything and obtain no information if everyone gets a free pass on day one. Lurkers should be pressured to post, but the day one lynch shouldn't only be focused on people without posts since it is also tough to generate information. This is a sketchy post. What does "interesting" mean? Is it scummy? You should draw conclusions rather than tell us that you look forward to reading peoples posts. A big post of nothing, the first 3/4ths of this post are you agreeing with people and saying "like what this person said" and then quoteing what they said. Only at the very end to you contribute, in a very weird way. You basically dont call Xatalos scummy with his sketchy post, you instead just respond in a null fashion, and don't pursue the matter further. His next big post is in response to pressure, where he was accused of posting carefuly constructed posts with no content. So he does so again. Afterwards he makes a massive post on his thoughts on every player in the game, Which for some reason seems to have sated all of you. why? posts like that are easy for scum because They know everyone's alignment! Of particular note is his section on mattchew, where he says he had a great case written up on him being scum, but then decided not to post it. Why would you not share this if you are town? And finally his "analysis" against me, which basically amounted to I've been busy and its day 1. At this point he has noticed that he will not be lynched, so he throws a vote on me. And yet notice that he does not comment on Mattchew, the leader in votes, at all. Why? Did he not say he had a case written up on him being scum? if he thought that would help wouldn't he post it? If he now made a 180 and now thinks matt is town, why not try to dissuade us? Guys, I don't know why all the pressure dropped from this guy, but whenver someone completely ceases to be the center of attention day 1, somethings up. | ||
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On March 24 2012 01:54 Mattchew wrote: grey, you haven't commented on me either? Because I feel like you have less of a chance of flipping scum than Obryn | ||
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Evantrees has posting nothing, no opinion. Xalatos has posted significantly more. I remember what set me slightly off on him earlier was the way he seems as though he wanted to make friends with everyone. despite this he has not yet posted with a scum agenda that I have found as of yet. I still think obyron is our best choice. | ||
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On March 24 2012 02:12 Mattchew wrote: since when do scum have to post with a scum agenda? where does oberyn do this? Evantrees voted, that is something. You took "reading the thread" out of context from my sentence and used it to discredit my read on him. I said his post feels like he is trying to figure things out, not (as you said) knowing everyones role as scum do You do realize that's how scum want to look right? Anyways I'll be back later. I would like everyone to consider how all votes and pressure on Obryn suddenly dropped. its as if a group of people in communication with each other didn't want him lynched! Gasp! | ||
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On us. You have also even leading the town around like sheep for the first half of the day. Care to contribute more than these brief snippets of opinion? | ||
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On March 24 2012 06:49 SamuelLJackson wrote: Layabout are you around? Lynch in a bit over 2 hours; do you not care at all who gets lynched? You are at least theoretically in danger of being lynched, though obviously with the current vote spread it's pretty much impossible to lynch scum. Greymist: he has posted more since then. Have they not made you re-evaluate your opinion at all? /syllogism Do you think sheer post count is enough to absolve people? And risen, thats an interesting opinion, do you think im scum? | ||
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On March 24 2012 07:05 SamuelLJackson wrote: I'm referring to the content of those posts, are you serious Yes. I do not see how those posts define "townieness". And you did say "he has posted more since then". You did not give me examples of quality posting, therefore i assumed you were talking about quantity, rather than quality. | ||
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On March 24 2012 07:10 Acrofales wrote: Lol. Are we seriously putting our lynch in the hands of either mafia or littlefinger?! This is really retarded. However, I have no idea where to put my vote. My earlier reads were Mattchew, Gumshoe and Zealos. Nobody else seems to want to vote for them, although for the life of me I don't know why not. I guess I could add Evantrees to my lynch targets, if we're going to policy lynch a hardcore lurker. Another option is to lynch Nicolas. Chaoser said he'll probably be modkilled anyway? Anything seems better than leaving it so that a mobster switches before the end with some bullshit excuse and we mislynch a townie due to derp. Or WBG jumps and we can't even retaliate by vig shotting him. You "Guess you could add Evantrees to your lynch targets?" What the crap? This entire post is just asking other people to make decisions for you. | ||
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On March 24 2012 07:17 Risen wrote: I approve this wholeheartedly. Changing my vote since no one will vote for you (reasons for which are beyond me, I still think you're the most viable lynch target, but I'm not the only one with an opinion). Still think you need to be shot by a vig Acro. Hopefully enough people can get off other equally useless votes and just lynch the modkilled guy. We're going to lose Nicolas at lynch time anyways people, in this manner we get a lot more time to see people posting. This is tough... I think evantrees deserves his death for playing so shitty, but I don't think mafia would sit by while one of their own was being lynched either. Where the fuck is Lyter? Why the focus on evantrees and not lyter who is also lurking just as much? This gives me pause, makes me think evantrees is town and lyter is scum. The lynch is the only tool town has, why waste it on someone who is going to die anyway? between lynching Nicolas and a lurker, choose the lurker. | ||
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On March 24 2012 07:20 chaoser wrote: posting from hospital, on shift. addressing risk, just because there is a chance others might have posted it doesn't mean greymist posting it is noncontributing. I think I understand your "they are helpful but not TOO helpful" idea in that you think they're relatively "safe" helpful posts to make. Is that correct? But then what is the difference between greymist and any number of players in here making "safe helpful" posts. I still don't see the "greymist wasn't joking". Curu posted that WBG is unlynchable and unkillable. What kind of "confusion" or "useless discussion" is greymist trying to start by making a statement that's obviously so out there that it could be written off as a joke straight up? This just looks like you're doubling down on this "greymist wasn't joking" angle aka misrepresenting. What do you think about nicholas? Chaoser, Ignore risk for now. What do you think about the 5 major lynch candidates we have today? What is your opinion on Obryn and Acro? | ||
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On March 24 2012 07:21 Acrofales wrote: Don't read shit into it that's not there. I don't want to policy-lynch, I want to lynch Mattchew, but that is clearly not going to happen. Rather than wasting my vote there and having whoever the fuck wants switch at the last second to mislynch a useful townie, I'd rather policy-lynch a lurker or someone who's going to get modkilled. I chose the modkilled. Now stop confusing shit more than it is already and consolidate your own vote somewhere useful, or make a better case against Oberyn, because so far it has been: he's useless. He is a lot LESS useless than Evantrees or Nicolas, so if that's your criteria, your vote's in the wrong place. Right, cause your vote on the guy who is going to get modkilled is "usefull" There is a difference between useless and useless while trying to appear usefull. Oberyn is the latter. | ||
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On March 24 2012 07:24 SamuelLJackson wrote: How is that frustrating and has town really "collectively switched lynch targets 3 times"? Your frustration doesn't feel genuine to me yes, yes they have. 1st was Oberyn, second was mattchew, and now we are onto evantrees or layabout. its frustrating because if you read every time you make a statement in the thread where you say "X" is scum, over half the players just vote with you. Then you jump somewhere else and they follow right along. On top of that I have risk who is convinced i wasnt joking when i said to lynch bugs, and I have bugs who someone thought was a good idea to give him an unkillable role. | ||
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Don't you know how that will look to WBG? | ||
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On March 24 2012 07:35 layabout wrote: No, i am basing it off of the need for town to get on the same lynch and the chance that he might actually be scum since oberyn and syllo seem to think he is. Oh well if they think im scum | ||
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Oh and also because me and him share a majority, and I reached it first. Oberyn, you are not off the hook. ##Unvote ##Vote: Layabout | ||
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Fair enough, but the rest of my reasons are full of thruths | ||
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On March 25 2012 03:33 SamuelLJackson wrote: Also @WBG were you bullshitting about having day checks? If you were not probably get his role name. Do you mind saying a letter from his role name plus the backwards position (from the end of the word to the begging) number which that letter is? So that mattchew can confirm you have checks. That is if you are feeling kind and generous <3 correct me if im wrong, but didnt you criticize me for even pretending to interact with WBG? | ||
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On March 25 2012 04:03 SamuelLJackson wrote: It's different when It's me because I know what I'm doing =) Oh you | ||
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On March 25 2012 04:32 risk.nuke wrote: Why waste a dt check on greymist to tell us what we who weren't dropped as children already know. If I were a dt I'd check scummy lurkers and crumb the result. /ignore risk.nuke | ||
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On March 25 2012 05:18 Acrofales wrote: Okay, I checked WBG's filter. I forgot the bit where WBG said he checked Mattchew. I am going to say it is completely and utterly stupid to suggest we can trust WBG based on this. WBG says Mattchew is town WBG says the 5th letter from the right in his role name is an A (pulling this out of my ass) Mattchew says "holy fuck that's right"! Conclusion: Mattchew must be town? Trolololololololol DERP WBG must be trustworthy? Trololololololololol DERP Now alternatively Mattchew says "trolololol liar"! Conclusion: Mattchew must be scum? Trololololol DERP (btw, I'm not saying he's town, just that it doesn't work in this logic) WBG must be untrustworthy? Hell yes (but anybody using his brain already knew this) SLJ: what the hell were you hoping to learn from this? You're a veteran player and basically trolling atm. If you're trying to overtake Gumshoe for the dumbest scum in the game you're doing a pretty good job. No one in the game has said we can trust WBG, IDK where you are getting that from. | ||
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On March 25 2012 05:47 Xatalos wrote: Where are you, gumshoe? I can't believe you have been offline for this long... Maybe you're just afraid to post more, since it seems like everyone forgot about you after you disappeared? There are other lurkers, but this seems like the most suspicious lurking so far. SamuelLJackson and GreYMisT, it seems like you both have been online, but why haven't you answered these matters I have been wondering about? I switched to gumshoe because I began to agree with the majority of people that his mistakes were not particularly malicious. in the end I agree that he posted things that were in fact too dumb to be mafia. While I dont normally agree with statements like that, I will be keeping a very close eye on him, and I expect his posting to improve. | ||
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On March 25 2012 06:17 Xatalos wrote: You mean *from* gumshoe..? I don't think his first posts were all that suspicious either (bad town/Mafia, hard to say), but don't you think his attitude towards the layabout lynch was suspicious? And if you actually think gumshoe is merely a dumb townie, who would you prefer to lynch? Oberyn? I don't still see how he's so suspicious (especially over people like gumshoe, Mattchew, etc.). yes i meant from gumshoe. I felt oberyn was suspicious yes, and was also suspicious of how all threats towards him simply dropped. It was not the same way with gumshoe. | ||
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On March 25 2012 06:28 Xatalos wrote: I think that was just because of his massive analysis post... Don't you think it was pretty townie? Who would you want to lynch, if not Oberyn? Oberyn, maybe risen for buddying up to me and following what i do for no real reason other than to associate with me. How many times do I have to say the following: A) that was not a massive analysis post. That was a post with 1 or 2 snippets of thought about every player in the game. big difference. B) that does not make you town. Also aldeeran just saying X is scum, and coloring my name red does not make it so. if it did mafia would be a lot easier. | ||
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On March 25 2012 06:39 wherebugsgo wrote: I think GreYMisT is colorblind, guys. What a sad day. GreYMisT how come you're trying to bus Risen now? Im going to kill you in aperture mafia | ||
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On March 25 2012 06:48 Alderan wrote: Technically, I didn't even color your name red. What I did do was fail in not voting for you last night. Just cutting it off at the pass as it were. Why am i scum again? | ||
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On March 25 2012 10:46 Risen wrote: Ok so mafia knows that acro is being lynched either today or tomorrow 100%. What are they going to do now? They can't just discredit me b/c they'll have to vote to lynch me, which will lead to acro lynch day3. They can't ignore me b/c then acro gets lynched today. Maybe they've already given up on acro living past today and just want to act as pro-town as possible since the discussion today will be entirely focused on whether I'm lying or not If it's decided I'm lying, then I'm lynched and acro is gone tomorrow so all the discussion tomorrow will be useless as well, if it's decided I'm telling the truth acro is lynched today and tomorrow brings fresh discussion. Or the case I'm not bringing up because it's impossible, acro flips town and I'm therefor mafia and discussion today is pointless and discussion tomorrow is pointless as I'm the obvious lynch. Therefor, I think the best possible outcome for us is lynching acro today. When he flips mafia I'm confirmed town and we're happy as shit and in a really good spot. (Even if he flips town it gives you a free mafia lynch tomorrow, again this won't happen but town is still in a pretty damn decent position) Sums up any input I'll have today I think. Time for me to go to my movie, I'll be back later folks. You are not confirmed town when/if acro flips scum we do not know that mafia knows that acro is being lynched today or tomorrow 100% Why even ask us to consider the fact that you will flip scum, if you are not? This, in addition to your extremely defensive nature (during night might I add) leads me to believe you are scum. ##Vote: Risen | ||
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On March 25 2012 13:52 Mattchew wrote: so if risen is telling the truth im like 3 times confirmed town, and if hes not im like 4 times confirmed town stop that. No one is confirmed day 2 barring incredibly weird circumstances. | ||
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I've been trying to keep up with the thread through all of this and I retain my vote on risen. I will reread all that I missed and have an idea of where i want to move after the lynch. | ||
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On March 26 2012 09:03 Xatalos wrote: If Risen actually is a Detective, he hasn't done a very good job at playing his role... He has created a ton of spam and confusion, undermined the birth of useful discussion, and made us talk about only himself and Acrofales for countless pages. All this seems like Mafia play, although I don't understand why he wants to get himself killed, regardless of his alignment (and him being Detective doesn't even prove that Acrofales is Mafia, so what's the point?). All I can think of is that he is A) a really anti-town Detective or B) a really reckless Mafia player. There are 8 votes on him already, so I doubt this bandwagon will turn around in these remaining 20(?) hours. So, the wisest move would be to change the focus from arguing about Risen's questionable logic to analyzing the events of the day 1 lynch and especially night 1 kills. MrZentor already had a good take on DoYouHas earlier: most likely he was killed because of his focus on Alderan or risk.nuke (probably not both, but you never know). He was also quite calm and analytic, which is bad news for Mafia, so it's not 100% certain that Alderan or risk.nuke is Mafia. Still, I would keep a close eye on these two. Acrofales also made a post about SamuelLJackson, although I don't really agree with his conclusion - the blue kill was most likely just a surprise bonus, and what Mafia really wanted was to stop him from speaking. The reason for that could be any or all of the following: A) he had solid, calm analysis B) he was an experienced player C) he suspected GreYMisT and chaoser. Any one of these reasons would make for a good Mafia kill, and the possible combination of them all would make a very necessary Mafia kill. Think about it: if I was GreYMisT or chaoser and I saw some veteran like SamuelLJackson coming after me, I would want him dead right away. But certainly his experience alone would have made him a good target. (By the way, gumshoe, how long have you been offline? 3 days? Since nobody else seems interested in you, I'll just leave you on my watch list, but you better do something useful once you reappear from your lurking. Same with evantrees - this guy hasn't really contributed anything yet! Is he aiming for a world record on lurking or something? Try to at least appear useful or you're merely a bandwagon-hopping voting machine...) You can't analyize night kills. Too much WIFOM. I personally am suspicious of risk.nuke. What he is doing seems exactly like what happened for the majority of election mafia. For those of you who had not read that game Risk made a case on me day1, and then relentlessly pushed it down everyone's throats. The difference in these 2 instances is that in that game his reasons were somewhat founded. Anyone who actually reads the case on me this game by him will see it is almost completely based on my "Lying" about my joke at the start of the game. My feeling is that he is trying to emulate his play from election mafia, in an attempt to appear so aggressive that he has to be a townie. | ||
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On March 27 2012 01:13 risk.nuke wrote: You keep brining that game up as if it were a defense against you. I was supicious of you because you played scummy. Period. I don't know if it was part of your strategy in order to avoid beeing nightkilled by the mafia because you were a medic or something else but you were forced to roleclaim in order to not get lynched which means I wasn't tunneling you that game. You played poorly and I took notice of that which is a big difference. I know you are mafia. It's just a matter of time before I can convince the others of it, and I'm not in a rush. I play mafia with my focus on the endgame and you will not survive it so as far as I care, I consider you a lynched man walking. And I got several ideas of whom your scumbuddies might be. Someone is going to learn to live with dissapointment | ||
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On March 27 2012 09:26 Oberyn wrote: *cough cough* Time to listen to everyone explain how bad Risen is and try to convince themselves that their vote was perfectly reasonable. Maybe if I were a vet, my opinion wouldn't immediately be deemed invalid. I'll save it for the post game. For now we have a lynched detective who claimed a red check on another player in the game. The OP states that alignments dectectives are guarenteed to be sane, thus either acro is scum, was framed, or is a miller.It sucks that our next day must be predeterimined, but we have to lynch acro because of this. letting a red-checked player live would generate too much wifom. | ||
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On March 27 2012 21:25 Acrofales wrote: So, your plan is to ignore all other evidence, kill a townie tomorrow and enter night 4 with no mafia and two wasted days. Boy, I sure like your plan, Mr. Scumbag! Can I ask a stupid question? If this holds for millers and framed people, why does it not hold for godfathers? If Risen had said I was confirmed town, would I be above all suspicion? NO. Before starting to play, I read a game here, where a DT checked a godfather and he got lynched anyway, but I can't find it anymore (maybe one of the veterans remembers it). So why hold "red is dead" as a holy grail, when a green check is maintained as suspect? Do you normally lynch your strongest town reads? detectives would be pretty useless then wouldn't they? | ||
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On March 28 2012 01:52 MrZentor wrote: You're lucky you aren't replacing chaoser. Everybody thought he was scum, so the day I replaced him, they lynched me. Fun... Haha yea, I pushed that lynch. Fun scum times | ||
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On March 28 2012 22:25 Lyter wrote: Hmm, the shit appears to have hit the fan today. I guess if the pm is real, then there was maybe a framing as we've already said back when risen was alive. Fuck knows what would happen then though, would it just a case of 'tough shit town, -1 tracker for you?' We already knew that this was a possiblity last night. Why bring it up again in this way? ##Vote: Acrofales | ||
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On March 29 2012 08:11 Mattchew wrote: I would have voted Acro if I thought that it wouldn't lead to a scum decision. If I switched to acro it would have been 9 to 5 meaning only 2 scum have to switch to secure the lynch they want. I figured I'd trust in my fellow townies... lol... and I argued too vehemently against lynching risen to get called a dipshit over it. You should probably stop arguing with WBG. Trust me, it will get you nowhere. | ||
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On March 29 2012 13:24 Alderan wrote: I've been away all day at a Game of Thrones premier in Atlanta (the second season is going to be awesome). I'm happy to see that Greymist is finally being targeted. I've gotten scum vibes from him since Day 1, and he's done very little to support him being town since. After some research, I noticed that your scum vibes on me resulted primarily from thoughts that I was too good to believe certain things about gumshoe (where has he run off to btw?). This was of course after you post this regarding risk.nuke: On March 23 2012 04:19 Alderan wrote: Just threw in a lip. Let's see if I can't make some sense of the drivel so far in this thread (not a knock on anyone, Day 1 always sucks. @risk.nuke: Greymist is suspicious to me yes, but for nearly none of the reasons you provided. His comment on wherebugsgo was a joke, at least that's how I took it when I read it. I don't think it was some secret agenda to try to divert town discussion at all (which notably was the entire point of your huge post). I want to wait on Gumshoe to come back before I comment anymore on Greymist though. So at the time you wrote this were these other reasons just that you felt I was "too good" to be playing like I am? I will have more ideas of where we should move as we get closer to the end of the night/the next day. I have some annoying meetings/tests during the next 2 days. | ||
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On March 29 2012 17:43 Zealos wrote: Lol, night time, derp. Though after reading over Grey's filter it does seem "Convineint" that whenever the town gets a false lead such as risen, he becomes quiet and leaves us to lynch him, no words for or agaisnt. I voted for risen.... | ||
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On March 30 2012 03:36 Zealos wrote: I really don't understand what makes me a good lynch target. Day 1 I called out Acro for being suspicious for his first post. I mean, I might have been trying to blend in, but it surely it would have been easier and less suspicious for Acro had I not said anything? Also, when Risen was being lynched anyway, surely as a mafia it would have been better to just vote and not say much, instead I was the one most pushing for the lynch. Why would I put the effort forward to do that as mafia if I knew that he was going to be killed anyway? This is rather poor defense, and is strongly based in WIFOM. You could have put forth the effort to make a case against risen knowing that it would make you look more townish, and thus could have used it in a defense just as you are now. | ||
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On March 30 2012 05:50 Zealos wrote: So Grey, you planning on defending yourself or switching the topic back to me again? I honestly don't care about defending myself. However you seem worried, and what do you mean by "again"? I have yet to talk about you except for just then. | ||
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On March 30 2012 19:13 Zealos wrote: I know, I won't vote until near the deadline for the voting thread. The votes in here is just my current desision. I have to go o a funeral today, but I have enough of a spare moment to say: "what?" Why not vote in the voting thread? its not like a vote there is set in stone, you have until the end of the day to alter it... Sounds like someone is afraid of being committed to a vote, and is setting themselves up for an escape if need be | ||
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I hadn't even voted you yet, but I sure am now. ##Vote: Zealos | ||
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On March 31 2012 20:22 Zealos wrote: I'm voting for Grey because I think he's scum. If I try to make a case against him I become scum, because being an active townie makes you scum according to a lot of the people in this thread. As for the case against Xata, I have to agree with what you've said, he's clearly quite a waffler, but I want to see him respond to it before taking a firm stance (Does this make me mafia too? ) You haven't made a real case against me, that's why you become scum | ||
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On April 01 2012 03:21 risk.nuke wrote: Hey GreyMisT, I didn't know you were here lurking, lol jk. I know you're here lurking. I also know you're mafia because this is an important day to lynch scum but you don't do anything or push anything. Because you're scum and already under alot of heat. So pushing hard for another townie lynch would spell the end for you. Which you probably realised which is why you aren't pushing very hard for my death. At the same time you don't want to bus. So you lurk and do nothing. 1) I am under no heat, get real. 2) I already said lynch that zealos guy 3) Your reasoning is unattractive | ||
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Make it something about him being on the ramparts of kings landing and then getting stabbed and thrown off the walls | ||
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I will admit I got frustrated and lost interest in this game pretty fast. I found it very difficult to invest time into a thread that was trolltastic from day 1. Thanks for hosting curu/VE. | ||
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Clearly I need to reevaluate my stance on that. | ||
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On April 05 2012 12:13 chaoser wrote: why would you even worry about WBG? lol. I didn't reply to a single thing of his all game and just ignored him. A nonkillable/nonlynchable player shouldn't be given any thought. He's just a stump third party. Im talking about in general, not in this game. | ||
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Interesting analysis tactic, I'll have to use it sometime. You guys ruined my perfect record of never being lynched as town. Assholes. I mean this in the best possible non passive aggressive way | ||
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On April 05 2012 18:10 risk.nuke wrote: Sorry grey. You didn't seem to care and when you went and lynched layabout I saw red. Combined with the fact that there were only townies voting for your lynch the odds were good you would had been mafia. I don't actually come into these games wanting to tunnel you. gg scumteam. Scum usually has very little reason to be inactive, at least my scum play that is. Inactivity does not equal alignment, however malicious inactivity does. You need to learn how to distinguish the two things. | ||
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