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I'd like to play but I didn't think this was open for sign ups yet.
It's not in the queue while TL Mafia LI is so, ...
Anyway, /in if possible. I'm already in Resistance 2 but it's a mini and it's already been going on for a while so I hope that's not going to be a problem.
@EchelonTee You should definitely join if you want to play and have time.
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On March 03 2012 13:16 gumshoe wrote: So lynching for information would be basically pointless? Yea, just like in flip games.
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MORE JUBJUBS
... and those lazy hosts need to update the player list.
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short of jubjubs? invite jackal
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i'd like to be bulletproof please
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On March 09 2012 15:27 EchelonTee wrote:i'd like a nuke please
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rgTheSchworz is broken.
Yea.
This game starting tomorrow or something?
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Hey guys
I'm surprised that Jackal58 is openly advocating that people announce who they are in PM contact with immediately. It's somewhat okay when a guy like Mattchew hides behind the "more information for town"-mantra, but I expect more from Jackal58.
If player A and player B are in contact with each other and they're both town, then why does the rest of the game need to know this? Scum can shoot into people to prevent town circles this way (as Mr. Wiggles already pointed out) and that's pretty bad. You are just giving scum extra information.
The PM mechanism is a town favored mechanism and we shouldn't be so afraid of it as everybody seems to be. We should instead encourage people to use it wisely. Fear mongering such as "Oh, BloodyC0bbler used this in some game to kick town's ass so lets all be afraid of PMs" is harmful, while "Be ware that people might be scum, don't just trust them because they're in PM contact with you. Use your brain." is a lot more useful for the single townie and for town as a whole.
Also, Mr. Wiggles advice on "state in thread when someone rolefishes" is bad. Use your brain. If a guy asks you for his role then there's no real harm in that, both townies and scum would benefit from it. If he insists on you telling him his role while you're trying to talk about reads and analysis, then you can start getting suspicious.
I'm not going to announce who I'm in PM contact with, unless they're scum. Every townie who says that they're going to say in the thread who they're in contact with is making it less likely that other people contact them, which is a bad thing.
I'll probably write a list of people I think are going to be very active in this game and then RNG one of them and PM contact that guy. I didn't really decide yet.
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On March 11 2012 23:22 Abenson wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2012 23:21 Abenson wrote: Since when were we allowed to PM in a mafia game O_O Wasn't there a huge argument over the use of PM's and it was abolished along with clues?
OP was written 12 days ago. What's your excuse for not reading it?
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@Mr. Wiggles What's your role mate?
@Caller
Excluding the "he used pro-town as the first player" argument, the only argument you have against DoctorHelvetica is that he's supposedly more scary as scum than as town. This is somewhat irrelevant unless we can't find anybody else who is scum + Show Spoiler +and you're not using "nash equilibrium" right, unless maybe you're using it make your case sound smarter than it actually is .
It's self contradictory how you're saying "my job is to find scum and lynch them", and then you want to lynch a guy, not because he is scum but because in your opinion he's more scary as scum than as town. How does that make any sense? Why don't you want to lynch into Jitsu and gumshoe? You said at least one of them is scum, that's 50% chance to lynch scum just by dumb luck and a smart guy than you can probably increase those odds.
You should shape up or you are going to get lynched.
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On March 12 2012 03:52 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 03:40 prplhz wrote:@Mr. Wiggles What's your role mate? @Caller Excluding the "he used pro-town as the first player" argument, the only argument you have against DoctorHelvetica is that he's supposedly more scary as scum than as town. This is somewhat irrelevant unless we can't find anybody else who is scum + Show Spoiler +and you're not using "nash equilibrium" right, unless maybe you're using it make your case sound smarter than it actually is . It's self contradictory how you're saying "my job is to find scum and lynch them", and then you want to lynch a guy, not because he is scum but because in your opinion he's more scary as scum than as town. How does that make any sense? Why don't you want to lynch into Jitsu and gumshoe? You said at least one of them is scum, that's 50% chance to lynch scum just by dumb luck and a smart guy than you can probably increase those odds. You should shape up or you are going to get lynched. oh no no you have my argument wrong town mafia don't kill him: 0 -5 kill him: 0 5 as for the latter bit, if you can't see where i'm going with this there's no point in me continuing to explain. No, it's quite simple.
You say that your job is to lynch mafia. You say that AT LEAST one out of Jitsu and gumshoe are mafia, that's at least 50% chance to hit scum if you just lynch blindly into them. You don't provide any argument as for why DoctorHelvetica is scum. This means that you don't have any reason to think that he's scum outside of the 5/23 chance that he's scum/traitor by dumb luck.
Your little matrix is extremely naïve, borderline dumb.
If you have some secret plan and you rely on all townies to let you go through with it without requiring you to explain yourself, then you are playing mafia wrong. You are a smart guy and you shouldn't be playing mafia wrong. I'm just saying that you need to shape up and if you don't shape up then you're going to get lynched. If you are going to shape up then cool, if not then we have a problem. Or well, at least you have a problem.
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Yea, I don't know about this jaybrundage lynch either.
I don't think Caller is a good lynch either. The guy is being useless but I don't think there's anything particularly scummy about the way he is doing it. Even in the face of a lot of townies disliking him he's not doing anything to stop this and his lynch isn't really facing any resistance either. The only real resistance is the jaybrundage lynch which is quite bad, the guy isn't really acting scummy. He's putting himself out there with tons of dumb ideas and no fear at all and that's pretty townie.
The Caller lynch seems like something that Jackal58 would oppose in his characteristic laconic, passive aggressive manner. Caller is being dumb but he's being blatant about it and there's nothing scummy about that and Jackal58 is usually one of the first to notice stuff like that. The fact that I've been on board the Caller-is-scummy-idea since the beginning seems like something that would make a town Jackal58 think everything over twice. I'm pretty sure he thinks that I'm a horrible player who only does horrible things + Show Spoiler +. Instead he is pushing it in a very meek way with his "forgive me" and "sir".
I think that Jackal58 is scum.
##Vote Jackal58
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LOL IT WAS CALLER
Hahahaha
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Caller had written short derpy posts so far and then I just saw a big post with Jackal58 in red and I expected a lot more from Curu. I'm never very confident in anything I do, probably just a character trait, so I got giddy when I saw somebody else agree with me and I didn't read his name properly.
I just thought what you thought too by the way, but think it over.
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I'd like to point out that three people just made a case on the same guy within 30 minutes and that's probably what people should be talking about. I'm going to bed now (actually wanted to postpone my Jackal58 accusations until after I'd slept but I thought that would be a bit too late).
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@DoctorHelvetica If Caller is scum over Jackal58, then what do you make of Curu and I independently arriving at the same conclusion as Caller?
@Mr. Wiggles I didn't read the post before my response, I saw the post, and with a big Jackal58 in it, then I scrolled to the nick and I misread as "Curu" and then I posted. The I went to read it for real and I saw that it was actually Caller.
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Hey guys
Within a 25 minutes three people came to the conclusion that Jackal58 was scum. It's unreasonable to think that any of us are in PM contact with each other because this is so early in the day and because we'd tie ourselves too hard together to potential scum. It's also unreasonable that scum sent two players out to push the same lynch within a very short time of each other. We all arrived at this conclusion independent of each other.
The idea that one of us might be scum is also unreasonable. While our cases on Jackal58 might look different, they're quite similar. They are all based on his reactions to Caller and his demeanor being off. It's a pretty strong case, only made stronger by how three people saw it.
I'm very surprised that nobody is listening to us. Caller and Curu are both decent townies and some of the more skilled players this game has, and I should add something too (I hope). I absolutely don't see this as a town on town lynch, because more scum would have jumped the wagon then. I doubt it's a scum on town lynch because three people saw the exact same scummy thing independently of each other. This leaves a town on scum lynch.
Node is joining in now but if we don't see more people on this lynch soon, this game will surely be living up to its name. Jackal58 is absolutely the best lynch.
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On March 12 2012 09:41 Jitsu wrote:Hmmm, looking at it again, I think prphlz's reason to vote for Jackal is a much larger amount of bullshit then Caller's. For instance, you point out that he is using things such as Show nested quote +Instead he is pushing it in a very meek way with his "forgive me" and "sir". That yells sarcasm to me a lot more then it screams scum. Wiggles brings up a good point. prphlz is a player that wouldn't just happen to miss the name of someone that posted. It's almost like prphlz was waiting for Curu to post something, realized he fucked up, then tried to cover it. It's not surprising that prphlz mistakes Curu for Caller, and then 10 minutes later, Curu ACTUALLY comes out with a small little case against Jackal as well. Shit reeks. ##vote prphlzAlso, LayAbout, are you still looking at jaybrundage? It's not sarcasm, Jackal58 isn't the sarcasm-y kind of guy. Even if it is sarcasm, is that a townie thing? No it's not, sarcasm just makes the thread harder to read for other people.
If anything reeks, it's this case on me. You are saying that I was expecting Curu to post something. This is untrue, but lets roll with it for a moment. This means that me and Curu were coordinating a lynch on Jackal58, and unless you think that we're both scum this makes very little sense to accuse me to be scum because of it (I'm talking about the alternative the town-town and town-scum PM combos). Even if you think we're both scum, there's no reason for scum to send out two players to push the same guy with very similar reasonable.
It's much more reasonable to think that Jackal58 is scum and that people noticed this. It's also very reasonable to think that you should be next lynch just for that case on me, it doesn't seem like anything to vote on but more like a chainsaw. I'm going to read up on your games to see if you have anything comparably weird in your past games.
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On March 12 2012 19:00 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 17:37 prplhz wrote:It's not sarcasm, Jackal58 isn't the sarcasm-y kind of guy. Even if it is sarcasm, is that a townie thing? No it's not, sarcasm just makes the thread harder to read for other people. Your powers of observation are fucking amazing. loL
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+1 for the Pink Floyd reference though.
@EchelonTee How do you feel about Jackal58? You only say that it's fast forming, but it's not really JubJubs flocking, it was three reasonable experienced townies who are very capable of forming their own opinion who all saw the same thing. If anything is unsettling, it's the lack of people jumping on the wagon after the initial three.
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On March 12 2012 21:30 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 19:21 prplhz wrote: +1 for the Pink Floyd reference though.
@EchelonTee How do you feel about Jackal58? You only say that it's fast forming, but it's not really JubJubs flocking, it was three reasonable experienced townies who are very capable of forming their own opinion who all saw the same thing. If anything is unsettling, it's the lack of people jumping on the wagon after the initial three. How the fuck do you know they are townies? I still don't understand how me calling Callers case on DocH bullshit makes me scummy. Do you agree with Callers bullshit case on DocH? Do you agree with Caller that anybody that called his case bullshit had to be scum? I guess you probably do Jub Jub. I'll bet your pants and hat sizes are the same. I don't know that they're townies, duh. I think it's more likely that they're town than scum right now because they saw the same things I saw.
No, I never agreed with Caller's case on DoctorHelvetica, I made that clear in the thread multiple times, I wonder how you manage to miss that. Caller acknowledged this but he never called me scum so it's a lie when you say that Caller thinks that anybody who called his case bullshit had to be scum. No one complained about the fact that you called Caller's case bullshit, people complained about the way you called Caller's case bullshit.
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Okay. Since some people apparently think that Jitsu has a point with his misread-argument against me, I guess I'll respond to it yet again. Since he is restating it in face of people calling his case "flimsy", it must be his main argument even though he said something about my case on Jackal58 too.
The argument itself it quite bad. He wants to lynch me based on how he doesn't think that people misread stuff once in a while. So assuming that I didn't misread, he is conjecturing that I'm in private contact with Curu. Because Curu said that he wasn't in PM contact with anybody, he is assuming that Curu isn't in PM contact with anybody. If we are in contact, this leaves only the option that me and Curu and scumbuddies and this is Jitsu's main argument for why I am scum.
I've already said why it is bad, but I'll say it again. A scum team doesn't coordinate half of their team posting the same case to get Jackal58, or anybody, lynched. That is just ludicrous. Generally, scum coordination is to stay spread out and not associate themselves too much with each other, not to orchestrate high-risk low-yield plans.
Furthermore this is bad for Jitsu because; the misread argument can be applied with the exact same validity that Jitsu thinks that it has to someone who isn't me; Curu. The main argument is that Curu and I are scumbuddies. If, in Jitsu's mind, Curu and I are scumbuddies, then why the hell isn't he pushing Curu at all, but only me? Jitsu didn't even mention Curu in any of his posts outside of when he's pushing me. He doesn't even believe in his argument himself. Jitsu is scum and Jackal58 is scum with him.
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I see no particular reason to believe or disbelieve Jackal58's claim, it hasn't changed how I think that he's scum.
I'd really like to be around for deadline but I'm going to bed soon. I expect Jackal58 to be dead tomorrow.
@Curu There's probably a role blocker since that's the most common scum role around, and all other common bases are covered with they funky KP powers.
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Doesn't even matter if there's a roleblocker around, he can just claim roleblocked either way if he's scum.
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Oh sorry about that, I'm tired.
You still suck DoctorHelvetica.
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I don't think his claim makes any difference for me.
@Kurumi Can you please explain to me why you are mentioning this "Rattata" all the time and what you mean by it?
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Like, Rattata is a pokémon. A rat pokémon. A rat is a traitor.
"Me and my Rattata needs friends" sounds a lot like you're the traitor trying to hint to scum that you're the traitor.
You see what I'm saying? I'm not willing to consider that you're just saying this because you're insane and polish.
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Okay, a couple of silly reasons I don't believe Jackal58's claim that people no one mentioned. In chronological order.
dreamflower personally made a plea that people stop calling it dreamflower vigilante and start calling is samurai vigilante or something like that. I don't see why Incognito and Ver wouldn't just abide her since I believe that they're nice people. This is a pretty silly reason.
In PYP:Interesting which was also hosted by Protactinium, there was also a dreamflower role. This didn't work like Jackal58 is saying right now. That role only died if the target flipped town, not if the shooter was blocked or the target was medic saved or somehow didn't flip. This is a not so silly reason.
Overall, everything considered, I don't believe Jackal58's claim and I still think that he's scum.
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You're all JubJubs for not lynching Jackal58.
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Hey VisceraEyes how did you go from
On March 12 2012 08:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Don't worry everybody, I've arrived. The game can start now.
I'm reading through, but I can already tell that Caller is going to rub me the wrong way. I see we've moved past the LaL discussion, that's a plus.
At a glance I'd say I'm disinclined to vote Jackal today.
Further details to come. Just letting everyone know I'm here and that I'm lurking hard. Smooches. "at a glance disinclined to vote for Jackal" to
On March 13 2012 07:58 VisceraEyes wrote: Come on Jubjubs. COME ON. Get off Jackal and onto Caller. No-lynching is better than lynching town 100% of the time. I don't care what scum would have you believe. KILL THE SCUM! VOTE CALLER! "Jackal is town"?
And how does stuff like
On March 13 2012 06:50 VisceraEyes wrote: This Jackal wagon is scum-infested. Everyone gtfo. Even if Jackal is scum, I bet there are scum on the wagon.
Everyone should be lynching Caller right now because he's manipulating the town. "even if Jackal58 is scum you shouldn't vote for him because I think there might be other scum on the wagon" make any sense?
I have no idea why you are almost insisting on misunderstanding Caller's case. Caller implied that I was a good guy and that Jackal58 was a bad guy because of the way we called him out. I said twice that he should shape up or get lynched and that townies shouldn't go around doing secret plans. This is a very straight forward thing to say. Jackal58 is known for being straight forward. But he wasn't this straight forward. Instead Jackal58 was beating around the bush a bit and then he came out full force and voted for Caller after he saw that other people were on board too.
Caller has played mafia for a while and he knows that his DoctorHelvetica case wouldn't stick because it was horrible. Scum generally don't go about executing plans like these because they can so easily backfire. Look at how people are voting for Caller actually thinking that he was being serious about his DoctorHelvetica case, there's no reason for any scum to put himself in that position. Also, he might end up outing some of his scum buddies who town would expect to go for him when he does a silly thing like this.
You are saying that Caller is manipulating town but that's just empty talking. How is he manipulating who? He's not manipulating me I can tell you that. I arrived at my conclusions fully independently of what Caller said and if you think I'm town as you say in your post then you have to believe me and then you cannot say that Caller is manipulating anybody. It's just empty talking.
You also weren't around during deadline. You disappeared 7 hours before and then you didn't show up again until just now.
Your insistence on acting a lot dumber than you actually are makes me think that you are scum. You are also not acting in your usual inquiring and infinitely transparent way, even in the face of a relatively dead thread. I remember how you had like 50% of all the posts during one of the more inactive parts of Responsibility Mafia!. It's okay that you're not talking as much, but you're also not being very open and you're being obstructively dumb. I had your number in Responsibility Mafia!, in Hammer Mini Mafia, in Storm Mafia, I came around on you in Resistance 2, I don't really think you're being the usual town VisceraEyes right now.
I decided to give you some leeway early game because you were still in another game, but that's over now. Last time I decided to give you leeway was in Hammer Mini Mafia and I know I shouldn't do this.
It's quite hard to talk about why Jackal58 wasn't lynched, he was the most pushed lynch, he was a really good lynch, but people are being so inactive and indifferent that that might actually just be the reason. Town is pretty screwed if we can't even lynch Jackal58 off the work that Caller, Curu and partially I did. 20 players, 9 people ended up having votes placed on them and two people didn't vote. You guys should be ashamed of yourself.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 13 2012 06:53 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2012 06:51 Curu wrote: I am looking at it this way:
If Jackal is Town and we leave him alive he basically has to shoot. And the probability is very high that he hits a Townie. So in this case we have dead Town Jackal, dead Town someone else, and a dead lynch target. No one to me looks obvious scum enough to warrant switching the lynch like this.
If Jackal is Town and we lynch him then we've lynched a Townie day 1. We end up with a net of dead Town Jackal and lose a substitute dead lynch target.
If Jackal is scum then yay.
I don't feel like there is another candidate I want to lynch bad enough to take the tradeoff of high probability 2 Townie deaths vs low probability scum hit in the event that Jackal is Town.
Yeah you guys go on about "omg we killed a blue" but look at what the blue does. IMO in this scenario mislynching a blue suicidal Vig is better for Town than mislynching a Vanilla Townie. This totally sounds like a post that someone who's sure enough someone is scum to lynch them posted.[/sarcasm] Notice how in this whole post, the only scenario in which Jackal is scum has six words and is buried in the rest of the bullshit. So what if there's only one line? If he is scum then YAY! Also, you'll have confirmed Caller, I'm already confirmed and Curu will also look very good.
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Okay. I can buy into VisceraEyes not being scum.
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If Jackal58 is scum then he's putting himself in a pretty bad position here and I don't think (or hope) that he'd do that as scum.
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By "he" I was talking about you VisceraEyes. If Jackal58 is scum then you are putting yourself in a weird position. Sorry for my sloppy use of pronouns.
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On March 13 2012 23:17 VisceraEyes wrote: It's cool - indirect objects are a common grammatical oversight.
I have to respectfully disagree. If Jackal is scum we'll know by tomorrow and if he doesn't "shape up" (you know, in the exact same way that Caller did NOT "shape up" yesterday when your read changed on him) I'll be all about his lynch tomorrow instead of you or Caller. But given his claim, if he's roleblocked tonight he'll have no choice but to turn on the town tomorrow. How the hell will we know this by tomorrow? Assuming that he really is the role he claims to be: If he just claims roleblocked then we don't know anything. If he shoots a townie then we would have been better off lynching him today. If he shoots scum then that's pretty cool. If he holds his shot then we're exactly where we were today.
What the hell does "turn on the town" mean?
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I'm not ignoring anybody, I just came home from work and I don't always have the opportunity to read mafia games from there.
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Why do you want me to respond when you say that you don't care what I say from now on?
On March 13 2012 20:41 VisceraEyes wrote:[drep] prplhzOh, to be prplhz and scum. To be honest I thought he was town at first - but then I got around to his push on Jackal. But I'll get to that in a second. First I want to talk about him calling out Caller. Now, Caller's case on DocH was scummy as fuck. It was baseless and made no fucking sense. Prplhz goes back and forth with Caller a couple of times, here are his posts. Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 03:40 prplhz wrote:@Mr. Wiggles What's your role mate? @Caller Excluding the "he used pro-town as the first player" argument, the only argument you have against DoctorHelvetica is that he's supposedly more scary as scum than as town. This is somewhat irrelevant unless we can't find anybody else who is scum + Show Spoiler +and you're not using "nash equilibrium" right, unless maybe you're using it make your case sound smarter than it actually is . It's self contradictory how you're saying "my job is to find scum and lynch them", and then you want to lynch a guy, not because he is scum but because in your opinion he's more scary as scum than as town. How does that make any sense? Why don't you want to lynch into Jitsu and gumshoe? You said at least one of them is scum, that's 50% chance to lynch scum just by dumb luck and a smart guy than you can probably increase those odds. You should shape up or you are going to get lynched. Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 04:14 prplhz wrote:On March 12 2012 03:52 Caller wrote:On March 12 2012 03:40 prplhz wrote:@Mr. Wiggles What's your role mate? @Caller Excluding the "he used pro-town as the first player" argument, the only argument you have against DoctorHelvetica is that he's supposedly more scary as scum than as town. This is somewhat irrelevant unless we can't find anybody else who is scum + Show Spoiler +and you're not using "nash equilibrium" right, unless maybe you're using it make your case sound smarter than it actually is . It's self contradictory how you're saying "my job is to find scum and lynch them", and then you want to lynch a guy, not because he is scum but because in your opinion he's more scary as scum than as town. How does that make any sense? Why don't you want to lynch into Jitsu and gumshoe? You said at least one of them is scum, that's 50% chance to lynch scum just by dumb luck and a smart guy than you can probably increase those odds. You should shape up or you are going to get lynched. oh no no you have my argument wrong town mafia don't kill him: 0 -5 kill him: 0 5 as for the latter bit, if you can't see where i'm going with this there's no point in me continuing to explain. No, it's quite simple. You say that your job is to lynch mafia. You say that AT LEAST one out of Jitsu and gumshoe are mafia, that's at least 50% chance to hit scum if you just lynch blindly into them. You don't provide any argument as for why DoctorHelvetica is scum. This means that you don't have any reason to think that he's scum outside of the 5/23 chance that he's scum/traitor by dumb luck. Your little matrix is extremely naïve, borderline dumb. If you have some secret plan and you rely on all townies to let you go through with it without requiring you to explain yourself, then you are playing mafia wrong. You are a smart guy and you shouldn't be playing mafia wrong. I'm just saying that you need to shape up and if you don't shape up then you're going to get lynched. If you are going to shape up then cool, if not then we have a problem. Or well, at least you have a problem. Note the bolded statements: they imply that prplhz thinks that Caller is acting scummy (if prplhz = town, and town lynch scum and Caller is scum then prplhz lynches Caller...simple). 1 But here's prplhz' very next post. Show nested quote +On March 12 2012 08:06 prplhz wrote:Yea, I don't know about this jaybrundage lynch either. 1)I don't think Caller is a good lynch either. 2)The guy is being useless but 3)I don't think there's anything particularly scummy about the way he is doing it. Even in the face of a lot of townies disliking him he's not doing anything to stop this and 4)his lynch isn't really facing any resistance either. The only real resistance is the jaybrundage lynch which is quite bad, the guy isn't really acting scummy. He's putting himself out there with tons of dumb ideas and no fear at all and that's pretty townie. The Caller lynch seems like something that Jackal58 would oppose in his characteristic laconic, passive aggressive manner. Caller is being dumb but he's being blatant about it and there's nothing scummy about that and Jackal58 is usually one of the first to notice stuff like that. The fact that 5) I've been on board the Caller-is-scummy-idea since the beginning seems like something that would make a town Jackal58 think everything over twice. I'm pretty sure he thinks that I'm a horrible player who only does horrible things + Show Spoiler +. Instead he is pushing it in a very meek way with his "forgive me" and "sir". I think that Jackal58 is scum. ##Vote Jackal58 Let's take note of all the things prplhz says about Caller in this post. 1) bad lynch 2) useless 3) not scummy 4) no resistance to lynch (lol while resisting lynch) 5) scummy? 2One of these things is not like the others - hilariously, that one thing is the the thing he was saying about Caller IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THIS POST. So which is it prplhz? Is Caller being dumb and useless, but townie? Or is he being maliciously dumb and useless because he's scum? Prplhz doesn't make mistakes like this as town. Prplhz is scum and should be on our lynch docket tomorrow if he's not dead.
1: Yes, the case on DoctorHelvetica was bad. Everybody saw this, you saw this. In my opinion only a select few people can get away with derping like that for more than 24 hours. Caller isn't one of these. That's why I told him that either he acknowledge that his DoctorHelvetica case was bad from the moment he put it forth and move on with whatever little townie reaction baiting thing he was doing, or I would push for his lynch for being more dumb that should be tolerable from a guy like Caller. At that point he looked as if he was serious about his DoctorHelvetica case and that was scummy.
2: Caller was a bad lynch because scum don't usually go around making shitty plans like that because that just makes them an easy target and gets them lynched. Town lynches people for weird reasons all the time and scum don't go around trying to give them a reason for no gain at all. He was being useless because this was before I saw his post on Jackal58 which I found quite decent. There wasn't any real resistance to the lynch but that might have been a bit early to call, it probably wasn't relevant and I probably shouldn't have said that, at least not at that point.
Caller was scummy earlier on when he refused to be reasonable. I had called him out for that since the beginning. At the point I wrote that post I didn't really think he was scum because scum don't go around making crazy plans because towns lynch people for that, not matter if the plan is scummy or not. I probably should have realized this early on but I'm a slow guy. Jackal58 isn't slow. I think Caller has stepped up his game considerably since his big post on Jackal58 too, and he is not an issue for me right now.
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I'm all for a Kurumi lynch/vig.
Don't shoot Caller.
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Can Kurumi please get a warning/modkill for repeatedly writing posts in Polish?
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On March 14 2012 02:42 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 02:39 prplhz wrote: Can Kurumi please get a warning/modkill for repeatedly writing posts in Polish? It's polish-french-latin-english and one word in italian. Well, I hope it's enough though for You, since You don't want to understand me. I don't really give a shit what it is, it's not English so you are deliberately making yourself impossible to understand to a lot of people in this game. This game is in English and you should be warned/modkilled for repeatedly writing posts in whatever language that was, you know this. I'm completely fine with you trolling around in English but you know not to speak Polish, especially when there's another Pole in this game though that doesn't affect how I feel about a warning/modkill.
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On March 14 2012 02:49 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 02:45 prplhz wrote:On March 14 2012 02:42 Kurumi wrote:On March 14 2012 02:39 prplhz wrote: Can Kurumi please get a warning/modkill for repeatedly writing posts in Polish? It's polish-french-latin-english and one word in italian. Well, I hope it's enough though for You, since You don't want to understand me. I don't really give a shit what it is, it's not English so you are deliberately making yourself impossible to understand to a lot of people in this game. This game is in English and you should be warned/modkilled for repeatedly writing posts in whatever language that was, you know this. I'm completely fine with you trolling around in English but you know not to speak Polish, especially when there's another Pole in this game though that doesn't affect how I feel about a warning/modkill. Caller is not Polish, afaik he changed his country because potatoes became a staple in his diet. AKA Caller trolling in real life. Prplhz, I think we should at least lynch a lurker tomorrow. Another no-lynch is bad. I wasn't quite supporting it D1, but as I did not want anyone to die from top3 candidates I think I was in favour of it, which in retrospective is dumb. I don't want to understand you?! The fuck I do, it's you who are deliberately making yourself hard to understand. When you are making yourself impossible to understand then you deserve a warning/modkill. I don't give a shit about Caller being Polish or not as I just said in that very same post.
I think you're the traitor and I think you should be lynched/shot. There's nothing lost if you're town because you're playing badly, being hard to understand for people as always, and I think that you should to be shot for hinting that you're the traitor. I'm not willing to consider that you're just saying something insane and polish that coincidentally looks a lot like a traitor hint.
Why are you suddenly talking to me just because I want you dead/warned/modkilled? You never tried to talk to me about anything before but suddenly you are trying to give me information out of nowhere.
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So what did you find out about VisceraEyes in PMs?
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I'm here, how did you like the response you request from me, or didn't you read it? How do you feel about Palmar and DoctorHelvetica since you are in PM communication with both of them?
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I think his case on me was bad.
Furthermore, the case was mainly "He is scumbuddy with Curu" but he never attacked Curu for anything, only me, and quite heavily. He's semi-tunneling me I feel while ignoring stuff I say.
Maybe the case was too bad to be proposed by any scum but he did just pick it up from Mr. Wiggles which seems kind of scummy. He has been reasonable active though. I'm unsure about him but I surely wouldn't miss him.
What did Palmar say in PMs that you felt made him town? I remember in Resistance 2 when I told you to start convincing yourself that Palmar was town, after like 2 weeks of play, you were still "Oh, I don't know about him, I was gone from the forums at some point and stuff!". I understand that your performance in Storm Mafia probably gave you a confidence boost but you still must have some reasons to think that he is town. There's certainly nothing in this thread that could convince you.
Why do you think that Jitsu is town?
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Jackal58 you fucking shoot tonight if you're actually town.
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On March 14 2012 07:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 07:14 prplhz wrote: Jackal58 you fucking shoot tonight if you're actually town. Confirmed scum? He said a bunch of times he's gonna shoot you. This means you both die if you're town since you have no guaranteed means of protection. If you're scum you can block and hit jackal which means you don't die and he never gets to claim his hit implicating you. Nice slip bro. That's pretty stupid but I'm not going to tell you why.
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On March 14 2012 07:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote: The best thing for Jackal to do is not shoot at all I thought the best thing for Jackal58 to do was to kill a scum.
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@Jackal58 I hope drunk Jackal58 can still think and then I hope that you shoot.
On March 14 2012 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:Jitsu is based on the discussions we've had in general - he's earnestly scumhunting and to be honest, your name hasn't come up...you might have convinced him Palmar is Palmar. I've felt the sting of his manipulation before. It was a gut thing mostly, until he arrived in the thread. And yes, the way he pushed DocH for information cemented my read on him. While Storm certainly helped, I've been told several times that I need to work on just having confidence in my reads - so that's what I'm doing this game. It doesn't help that Palmar's read of Caller and mine are at odds. -.- I don't like how you're convinced that Palmar is town this fast when it took you so long in Resistance 2. If you're talking to Jitsu then ask him why he never pushed Curu even though his case on me was that I was scum buddy with Curu. He doesn't want to answer me when I bring it up in the thread for some reason.
I think that Palmar has been too silent so far. If he had been around for the rest of the game I would be less unsettled but right now, Palmar is in a pretty unique position because there are PMs in this game and 2 people already openly confirmed to be in PM contact with him and I suspect that this number may be higher. If he is town and he doesn't talk then how can he expect to live until tomorrow? Scum are going to be pretty scared of him but he's not doing anything to defend himself from them at all. Unless he's in contact with medic/jailer and he is pretty sure they're town, I think it's weird that he's being so silent. From what you said it doesn't sound like he is very busy in PM land.
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What the hell is the harm in asking my question to Jitsu? The only reason I can see is if you're scum and you don't want to bother him. My question is totally valid and as I told you, I've already brought it up in the thread but he just ignored it. I have no idea what my alignment has to do with that question. I don't want to use a PM option just to ask him a question that he might not answer anyway.
I don't think what Palmar has said this game makes him look as town as he did in Resistance 2.
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On March 14 2012 07:48 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 07:36 prplhz wrote:@Jackal58 I hope drunk Jackal58 can still think and then I hope that you shoot.
On March 14 2012 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:Jitsu is based on the discussions we've had in general - he's earnestly scumhunting and to be honest, your name hasn't come up...you might have convinced him Palmar is Palmar. I've felt the sting of his manipulation before. It was a gut thing mostly, until he arrived in the thread. And yes, the way he pushed DocH for information cemented my read on him. While Storm certainly helped, I've been told several times that I need to work on just having confidence in my reads - so that's what I'm doing this game. It doesn't help that Palmar's read of Caller and mine are at odds. -.- I don't like how you're convinced that Palmar is town this fast when it took you so long in Resistance 2. If you're talking to Jitsu then ask him why he never pushed Curu even though his case on me was that I was scum buddy with Curu. He doesn't want to answer me when I bring it up in the thread for some reason. I think that Palmar has been too silent so far. If he had been around for the rest of the game I would be less unsettled but right now, Palmar is in a pretty unique position because there are PMs in this game and 2 people already openly confirmed to be in PM contact with him and I suspect that this number may be higher. If he is town and he doesn't talk then how can he expect to live until tomorrow? Scum are going to be pretty scared of him but he's not doing anything to defend himself from them at all. Unless he's in contact with medic/jailer and he is pretty sure they're town, I think it's weird that he's being so silent. From what you said it doesn't sound like he is very busy in PM land. No, I can answer it here. My case on you was my perception of a scum slip. Stop saying my case is that Curu and you are scum buddies 1. I would say that that is more a by-product of you scum slipping in thread. I don't care if you think it's legit or not, or whether the odds are with you or the aren't. It's also widely known by now that I am not the best at analyses 2 (something that I can attest that I am trying to correct, and working hard trying to fix) but when I do see something that looks scummy, i'm going to call it scum. Period. I'm tired of reiterating the same thing over, and over, and over again. I felt that what I perceived 2 was enough to put my vote on you - at least, stronger then the case against Jackal, who claimed a blue role in the thread. That's all I had, and I felt it was STILL a stronger point the the case brought up on Jackal, which can more attest to the strength of your shit over mine. I am waiting to see other people's thoughts on you 2. I feel that if I go back and examine your filter, i'll only be looking for things that are scummy, and not looking at things subjectively 3. Would I vote for you still? Yes. Do I think Curu is scum? As a by-product of a your apparent fuck-up, I do. I know blues aren't all-powerful. But voting for a blue, in the thread, after he claims 4? Storm Mafia taught me that lesson. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice isn't going to be so hard. Looking back, after I was staying on par with the posts of the thread, I came across a defense, similar to this, with Curu. After you posted the defense, you seem to have just vanished 5, and came back into the thread only after the pressure on you seemed to have cool. This shit isn't Grand Theft Auto. The Police don't stop coming after you after you get three blocks away and to your safe house. You can lurk, but you can't hide. 5
1: But it is. Your case was that I misread Caller as Curu and for some reason you don't think I would just misread stuff so you think I was expecting Curu to post. You say that this means that we were in private contact with each other. Since Curu said that he wasn't PMing with anybody then we must be communicating in some other way, and you say that this is a QuickTopic, consequently Curu and I are scum buddies and that makes me scum. Your entire case rests on how you believe that Curu and I are scum buddies, yet you don't push Curu AT ALL.
If your case merely was that I misread something then you're really a JubJub.
+ Show Spoiler +I don't get why you're disregarding how Curu and I could be in PM contact. How do you know that he's telling the truth? If you think he's telling the truth because he's town then we can't be scum buddies.
2: Reeks of insecurity.
3: Word you're looking for is "objectively".
4: Didn't you read Curu's analysis of the claim? I don't recall you objecting to any of it other than blindly saying that you wont lynch claimer because in some other game the claimer turned out to be town or something.
5: Lurk but not hide? I have a lot more posts than you.
Whatever. This post is so bad you're probably town.
You can call me dick but you can't call me Curu.
Does anybody else think that Jackal58 isn't man enough to shoot tonight?
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okay i'm going to bed because i'm exhausted lol
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Who did you PM jaybrundage?
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Why aren't you PMing me? You agreed with just about everything I said so far.
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On March 15 2012 04:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I've been second guessing myself about Caller all game. I fail to see how that's scummy at all. In fact I've flip flopped a lot less than I usually do as town. Read AC or Storm, it's upsetting how inconsistent I am.
That's an almost undeniable scumslip by Kurumi there. Everyone should vote for Kurumi. What is a scumslip?
I involuntarily cringe every time someone says "scumslip".
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On March 15 2012 04:59 Mattchew wrote: prplhz did you use your 2 pms? I saw you the first time.
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On March 15 2012 05:38 Kurumi wrote:http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/JoeyThat's why Rattata and no other pokemon. Because trainer Joey in Generation II brags about his Rattata in phone calls. That's it. Also, I guess my play worked. I guess You're mad, jaybrundage? Tried to recruit it me but it failed? Got'cha, scum. I trolled on Day 1 on purpose: I wanted to attract scum to use their traitor guess on me and fail. The top percentage Rattata is a joke in the pokemon communities. Look it up. I could've picked pretty much any Dark-type pokemon or Ghost-type. Maybe even Psychic. Although not of this type, there's a great pokemon suitable for such a crumb if I would like to do it: Sudowoodo because it's "Imitation Pokemon" as a species, it mimics a tree. Or even freaking Ditto, the Transform Pokemon. There was no reason for me to go for Rattata other than trolling purposes. There are dozens of better pokemon for this. I am not scum/traitor. Since Caller has proven to be indeed the Day Vigilante, I am unvoting him, as my theory falls apart. Too bad for regular scum member, trolly enough for Traitor. Yes I am indeed a Dreamer. Yes, there's a person that I've told what was my plan during D1 today. Yes, I got the info about Dreamflower role being in-game. I guess it was my first clue, probably the most accurate one I am going to have, comparing it to the second one. If someone is wondering, my gibberish was inspired by Salvatore from Name of the Rose. He used to be a heretic, but then became a monk to save himself after the main group was crushed. It was a hint that I know more about things because I've seen a lot(and that it might be useless, because of clues). I have given everything I know here but the second clue. That's what I've got to say. I am innocent, just as my Salvatore-style gibberish said. I can't do fireworks here, I am really sorry. I am a passive role. I am voting jaybrundage. His reason is terrible and could only be scum-driven. I have told all of You some time ago that I won't let my lynch ever happen early into the game. I am Town. Jaybrundage and his team are mad about me not being the traitor, so they picked me as the lynch target instead, saying I'm traitor. I have given scum such a chance, but I am not going to let them use it. You could have pushed me Day 1, but You didn't. Guess, You were still wondering about me, huh? The pokémon babble in this post is impossible to understand. Yes, I do want to understand.
Hinting that you're traitor as town if so unspeakably dumb that it would be an insult not to lynch you.
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Also, jaybrundage said yesterday that he thought it looked like a traitor hint and that we should lynch you. Why the hell would he not just shut the hell up if he was scum and he really thought it was a real traitor hint?
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On March 15 2012 06:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 05:31 Jitsu wrote:On March 15 2012 05:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On March 15 2012 04:55 Jitsu wrote: Hey DocH, why are you voting for Kurumi and not prplhz? Because Kurumi knows what roles are in the game i.e. he is mafia Yet, you thought prplhz had an equally telling scumslip, where he was near "confirmed," and this is also the same game where you wanted to hang me for posting against what I perceived as a scumslip as well, right? Cool. If you can point out where I said it was equally telling that'd be cool This is definitely worse than what prplhz said. Encouraging a suicide vig to shoot you is scummy as hell but it doesn't touch what Kurumi did. You don't think Kurumi is scum? Do you have blinders on because I called you out yesterday? Use your brain. Yea it's so scummy that not only I wanted him to do it, Curu and Palmar too. Those people are pretty good at mafia, why aren't you on their back? I could just be a moron but those people can't use that excuse now can they? Why aren't you going for them?
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On March 15 2012 06:31 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 06:10 prplhz wrote: Also, jaybrundage said yesterday that he thought it looked like a traitor hint and that we should lynch you. Why the hell would he not just shut the hell up if he was scum and he really thought it was a real traitor hint? 1st: He was after Jackal58 day one. He believed he was scum. He dropped him, without any mention on D2 and jumped on me without any strong evidence. He's now gone too. I have no idea what's going there, but I think it's scummy. I don't know how his team decided to play it out. They were probably convinced I am really traitor so they made Jay go for easy cred in case I die or something and try to recruit me and go from there. But it failed, because I am not the traitor. But thanks to my trap they can use it to push my lynch, I knew it could backfire on me. I took the risk for the greater good. Hey Jackal, did You get roleblocked tonight? You haven't said anything so I guess no. Yes, I know he was also after Jackal58 on day1. Do you want me to go into his filter and find the post where jaybrundage, on day1, points out that what I found to be a traitor hint looks like it is a traitor hint and that we should lynch you?
You are describing a plausible scenario and not a probable scenario. There is no reason for scum to not just shut the hell up if they really think that you're the traitor.
I'm trying to wrap my head around how the hell a townie could think that it's a good idea to hint that he's a traitor. It's a horrible thing to do because of how bad it can go if it backfires. You could potentially waste an entire cycle with people flocking to your lynch because of your shit.
Who did you PM on day1 with your plan?
@DoctorHelvetica I never once said that Jackal58 should shoot me. I don't know where you're getting that from. I said that he should shoot, not that he should shoot me. If you read the thread you will see him calling me a bunch of things night1 but he never called me scum.
There are a bunch of people who feel like Jackal58 should have shot. I personally would have shot if I had the balls, I don't know if I do but I would imagine that Jackal58 does. I did this in Normal Mini Mafia II where I shot on night1 on vigilante because I knew that the next day would have been ruined if I didn't because a lot of people were pissed at me.
If you think that I was trying to get Jackal58 to shoot me, then why do you think I'm scum? I don't see why scum would want Jackal58 shooting at them. Can you please explain this?
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And I don't really care because I know you can't explain it.
Jackal58 dies if his target is town no matter if he is roleblocked or his target is saved. He said this in the thread.
If I'm scum and he shoots me and he survives then he can easily trade 1 for 1 with me. He can probably even get me lynched first because I'm popularly perceived to be the lesser player of the two of us. Why would I want this? I never thought he was going to shoot me but that's unimportant, you thought I thought he was going to shoot me and your shit doesn't make any sense.
You're not pushing your bullshit case because it's horrible and you're not going to get a single person to vote for me, and it doesn't look like you care. You can't even bother to argue with a 90% scum who wants to go over your arguments in a logical way. Jesus christ.
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I'm sorry DoctorHelvetica, please don't leave!
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On March 15 2012 06:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote: this is worse than storm
what's the point of being in a game where the town is so awful that you come under attack constantly just because people are too lazy to read your posts or think on the level of a highschool student I never attacked you, I am just disagreeing with you. I never made one ad hominem at you.
Scum can block+hit no matter if he shoots or not, doesn't make any difference. If he decides to shoot me and he calls his hit then I'm in big trouble. I really don't see why a scum would want Jackal58 to shoot at him.
Please bear with my highschool student intelligence, I am honestly trying to improve! If you're down at "you want him to shoot into town and then they both die", then no, that was not what I was hoping for but in my head it was an acceptable risk for the reward of having the entire Jackal58 issue resolved. I think scum are perfectly happy with having Jackal58 alive right now. Other people agreed with this too, notably Curu and Palmar.
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Yea, but you didn't think so. Your case was bad from your point of view and that was what I was trying to say.
The chance is not 19/23.
There are 22 other townies than him and 5 bad guys, 4 scum + 1 traitor. Quickly down to 5/18, or almost 1/3. Jackal58 is a smart guy and I believe that he could make those odds even better.
I thought the risk of him shooting into his best scum read was worth the reward of having the issue resolved. Curu and Palmar both think this too so there has to be something about it, yes?
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So you can say that I was antitown, that's cool, that's your opinion and not too relevant for finding scum. Doesn't make me scum though (might even make me more town?). Ultimately, Jackal58 can make his own decisions and he probably can't be influenced by anything I saw.
Since he did survive we know that scum didn't block+hit him. Maybe they blocked him but then he could claim. If I was scum, and I thought he was going to hit me, then it seems like a pretty bad idea to either just block or just not do anything about him doesn't it?
I don't think I was his best scum read because even though he raged against me he didn't actually call me scum. Even though I didn't think I was his best scum read, would I as scum risk him shooting me without also hitting him that night? I was purposely trying to get on his nerves and I know by experience that he is susceptible to this (probably not from me though).
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On March 15 2012 07:39 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 07:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote: interesting how protactinium or ver wrote it stilted english similar to that of a non-native speaker Sandroba capitalizing "You" in my role pm once was so wrong. What was that game again?
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Yea this whole argument against DoctorHelvetica was mostly just for my amusement but the rest of your case I don't agree with. (could call it bad but then you're just going to call me negative)
I have a hard time reading Kurumi's behavior because he insists on making a big thing out of being insane and polish in all games. Like this Rattata needs friends traitor hint pokémon rant stuff, I have no idea what to make of it other than Kurumi trying to make himself harder to understand while complaining that people don't want to understand him. His actions speak for themselves though.
@Kurumi Hinting on night1 that you were fake claiming traitor when townies were already complaining means nothing.
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DoctorHelvetica is a guy who has a set of opinions that he considers unequivocally true and consequently the people who disagree with him the loudest has to be scum.
I don't really think you're scum anymore.
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Also, I said something that made sense. I'm screenshotting that shit, you must have hit your head hard when you passed out drunk and fell down that flight of stairs.
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Did Palmar just have an existential crisis?
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On March 15 2012 21:14 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 21:08 Jackal58 wrote:On March 15 2012 21:04 Palmar wrote: Might lynch Caller though. You think scum have a day vig? I'm assuming thats a troll seeing as he's the one that told Caller to shoot Node. When was the last time you saw Palmar troll?
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On March 15 2012 22:24 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 21:56 Palmar wrote:On March 15 2012 21:56 Jackal58 wrote:On March 15 2012 21:54 Palmar wrote: Cause bleurgh. Maybe I'm wrong though, I'm not gonna stop a lynch on him. I still want to lynch you Deconduo. Let's lynch Abenson instead. Can't you just shoot him tongiht? I can. But I'd prefer not lynching a townie on the way there. Why Abenson and not Bill Murray?
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Hey Caller, Kurumi has like 10 votes right now. Why do you suddenly want to switch to Palmar when you also think that Kurumi is scum?
Like, it's not going to happen. Palmar is not going to get lynched today and you should really expend your energy on something else.
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On March 15 2012 22:57 Abenson wrote: I'm kinda worried that the mafia will kill Caller tonight. Maybe you should be worried about getting lynched because you haven't done anything this entire game.
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On March 16 2012 03:07 Kurumi wrote: It is a passive role, the only "active" thing related to it is what I will try to dream about and I had no choice during N1. Post both dreams and an account of how and why you claimed.
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Tell me what you did and how, a lot of it happened in PM land and it's hard for people to follow unless you say what actually happened. Like, to my knowledge you actually claimed during night1 but now you're saying that you claimed because you are up for lynch which doesn't make much sense because you weren't up for lynch night1.
Can you copy paste both dreams again, just for my convenience?
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Lynch Palmar for not giving a shit and using emotional reasons for his inactivity? He did this exact same thing in Werewolves II, I asked him why he didn't give a shit and he said "arkham is so hard".
The Jackal58 lynch was also objectively bad.
Jackal58 has claimed dreamflower. No one has counter claimed. Kurumi claims that he has a mod confirmation that there is a dreamflower role in this game. If Palmar had lynched Kurumi and Kurumi flipped town then that would have confirmed Jackal58 as town since dreamflower is a town role, mafia can't conceivably have the role. Instead he lynched Jackal58. Jackal58's flip doesn't tell us anything about anybody else's alignment but Kurumi's flip could have confirmed Jackal58.
Lets lynch Palmar.
(sorry to dreamflower for saying dreamflower so many times)
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You know screw that Palmar lynch, we'll know more about him if Jackal58 flips scum. I'm just saying I don't like him. Maybe I should have thought this over.
Abenson is a good lynch but I'm fine with Kurumi.
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Jackal58 can you actually give us anything to go on now that you're dead? What is your scum team?
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DoctorHelvetica is maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
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I still don't get your pokémon dreamer shit. Rattata was trained by Joey who is a dreamer or something like that?
I'm not really into pokémon so you'll have to excuse me here.
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On March 16 2012 06:11 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 05:56 prplhz wrote: I still don't get your pokémon dreamer shit. Rattata was trained by Joey who is a dreamer or something like that?
I'm not really into pokémon so you'll have to excuse me here. Pokemon have nothing to do with anything but trolling. There's one trainer You fight at the beginning of the game and his name is Joey. He only has a low-level Rattata. If You let him have Your phone number, he will call You from time to time bragging about his Rattata being in the "top percentage" of Rattata, thus one of the best, but Rattata is like one of the first Pokemon You can get and a very weak one. So what? Why are you talking about that in a mafia game? Are you actively trying to mislead people?
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You knew there was a dreamflower and no one had counter claimed Jackal58 so you knew he was the dreamflower. dreamflower is a town role so you knew he was town. Why didn't you just trust him completely and tell him about your crazy plan instead of just hinting it? It still doesn't matter, you hinted it after people had already called you out for it.
If you really thought it was a good idea to try to hint that you were the traitor in the thread then you really need to start thinking things over. There are 18 townies looking for people trying to claim traitor and only 4 scum, who do you think is likely going to see it first?
I'm not really worried that there are other types of pokémon, because I don't know those other types. You are probably the only one in this game who knows so much about pokémon so it makes perfect sense to use Rattata because it looks like you're the traitor while you can just make up some excuse if people call you out. It's also weird that you're trying to implement crazy plans when you have a potentially very powerful role.
Good luck on your geography test.
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On March 16 2012 08:51 Jackal58 wrote: Node is dead. I am dead. How many more townies do you need to kill today Curu? You got 4 in the dead townies poll? Yea those two were kind of Palmar's doing weren't they? Kinda unfair to blame Curu I'd say.
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On March 16 2012 09:31 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2012 09:29 prplhz wrote:On March 16 2012 08:51 Jackal58 wrote: Node is dead. I am dead. How many more townies do you need to kill today Curu? You got 4 in the dead townies poll? Yea those two were kind of Palmar's doing weren't they? Kinda unfair to blame Curu I'd say. But he wants to kill more. What do you think of Palmar? Is he a cowboy?
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No.
If I had a gun I'd fire it into the air. Jackal58 is already dead and rgTheSchworz is going to get modkilled for not having said anything for 4 days (or I seriously hope so). This is fine for me for today.
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@deconduo When and why did you choose Liquid`Sheth and Mr. Wiggles?
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Did you talk to them about anything?
The Liquid`Sheth reason is blatantly bad, I don't like that. He told us that he was going to be a non factor for quite some time because of some upcoming StarCraft 2 tournament so it seems like a pretty bad idea to talk to him.
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On March 17 2012 15:54 jaybrundage wrote: Sandroba do you really think that scum would have a dayvig tho?
I want to call him really bad town. If the town agree's to vote him tho im all for it. LOL
"i don't think he's scum but if other people want to lynch him then that's cool!"
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On March 17 2012 18:41 jaybrundage wrote: Way to paraphrase. I can see him being scum.
Also if your against the Caller lynch why did you just send me a PM telling me to vote Caller? dude i have voted caller before you even send this post plz try to be aware T_T
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caller's anger against palmar seems like something he just made up so he could shoot him
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On March 18 2012 03:53 Bill Murray wrote: omg a caller wagon? Ive been onto him since his very first post i've always wondered how it is to play mafia with the great bill murray
i'm still wondering.
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∵ all scum sleep during the night ∵ you sleep during the night ∴ you are scum
it's a calista
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i don't know what i'm talking about but we have to post every 24 hours
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hey guys who do we lynch tomorrow and why?
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Technically, I didn't vote Kurumi either, but whatever.
Already 2 red flips off of Kurumi, it's not far fetched to think that there were one or two scum on him even though he only barely was lynched.
@sandroba Why did you pick out Bill Murray out of all the people who are still around who didn't vote for Kurumi? What made him stand out?
I'd rather just lynch blindly into whatever list Palmar posted before he died.
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Caller claimed Node and Palmar, no one else claimed any other shots.
No one claimed being role blocked.
deconduo claimed PM detective, Palmar was parity cop, VisceraEyes was Kingmaker, Jackal58 was dreamflower.
That's kinda it I think.
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On March 20 2012 03:43 sandroba wrote: So did decon claim anything useful about his powers so far? There was supposed to be 2 kills ytd right? I don't think scum would trade 1 kill for a .5 power so something is off. It's not far fetched to think that medic/jailer protected and scum hit Palmar now is it? And then when he didn't die they just had Caller shoot him in the face.
deconduo claimed to have checked Palmar night2 for this result. I don't think he claimed anything for night1.
Overall, deconduo is looking really bad and he was also on Palmar's shortlist.
@Mr. Wiggles What did you talk to Palmar about?
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@deconduo Can you give us all of your PMs with Mr. Wiggles?
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We could also lynch Mr. Wiggles?
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