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On March 14 2012 02:49 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 02:45 prplhz wrote:On March 14 2012 02:42 Kurumi wrote:On March 14 2012 02:39 prplhz wrote:
Can Kurumi please get a warning/modkill for repeatedly writing posts in Polish? It's polish-french-latin-english and one word in italian. Well, I hope it's enough though for You, since You don't want to understand me. I don't really give a shit what it is, it's not English so you are deliberately making yourself impossible to understand to a lot of people in this game. This game is in English and you should be warned/modkilled for repeatedly writing posts in whatever language that was, you know this. I'm completely fine with you trolling around in English but you know not to speak Polish, especially when there's another Pole in this game though that doesn't affect how I feel about a warning/modkill. Caller is not Polish, afaik he changed his country because potatoes became a staple in his diet. AKA Caller trolling in real life. Prplhz, I think we should at least lynch a lurker tomorrow. Another no-lynch is bad. I wasn't quite supporting it D1, but as I did not want anyone to die from top3 candidates I think I was in favour of it, which in retrospective is dumb.
I don't want to understand you?! The fuck I do, it's you who are deliberately making yourself hard to understand. When you are making yourself impossible to understand then you deserve a warning/modkill. I don't give a shit about Caller being Polish or not as I just said in that very same post.
I think you're the traitor and I think you should be lynched/shot. There's nothing lost if you're town because you're playing badly, being hard to understand for people as always, and I think that you should to be shot for hinting that you're the traitor. I'm not willing to consider that you're just saying something insane and polish that coincidentally looks a lot like a traitor hint.
Why are you suddenly talking to me just because I want you dead/warned/modkilled? You never tried to talk to me about anything before but suddenly you are trying to give me information out of nowhere.
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So what did you find out about VisceraEyes in PMs?
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I'm here, how did you like the response you request from me, or didn't you read it? How do you feel about Palmar and DoctorHelvetica since you are in PM communication with both of them?
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I think his case on me was bad.
Furthermore, the case was mainly "He is scumbuddy with Curu" but he never attacked Curu for anything, only me, and quite heavily. He's semi-tunneling me I feel while ignoring stuff I say.
Maybe the case was too bad to be proposed by any scum but he did just pick it up from Mr. Wiggles which seems kind of scummy. He has been reasonable active though. I'm unsure about him but I surely wouldn't miss him.
What did Palmar say in PMs that you felt made him town? I remember in Resistance 2 when I told you to start convincing yourself that Palmar was town, after like 2 weeks of play, you were still "Oh, I don't know about him, I was gone from the forums at some point and stuff!". I understand that your performance in Storm Mafia probably gave you a confidence boost but you still must have some reasons to think that he is town. There's certainly nothing in this thread that could convince you.
Why do you think that Jitsu is town?
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Jackal58 you fucking shoot tonight if you're actually town.
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On March 14 2012 07:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 07:14 prplhz wrote:
Jackal58 you fucking shoot tonight if you're actually town. Confirmed scum? He said a bunch of times he's gonna shoot you. This means you both die if you're town since you have no guaranteed means of protection. If you're scum you can block and hit jackal which means you don't die and he never gets to claim his hit implicating you. Nice slip bro.
That's pretty stupid but I'm not going to tell you why.
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On March 14 2012 07:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The best thing for Jackal to do is not shoot at all
I thought the best thing for Jackal58 to do was to kill a scum.
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@Jackal58 I hope drunk Jackal58 can still think and then I hope that you shoot.
On March 14 2012 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:Jitsu is based on the discussions we've had in general - he's earnestly scumhunting and to be honest, your name hasn't come up...you might have convinced him  Palmar is Palmar. I've felt the sting of his manipulation before. It was a gut thing mostly, until he arrived in the thread. And yes, the way he pushed DocH for information cemented my read on him. While Storm certainly helped, I've been told several times that I need to work on just having confidence in my reads - so that's what I'm doing this game. It doesn't help that Palmar's read of Caller and mine are at odds. -.-
I don't like how you're convinced that Palmar is town this fast when it took you so long in Resistance 2. If you're talking to Jitsu then ask him why he never pushed Curu even though his case on me was that I was scum buddy with Curu. He doesn't want to answer me when I bring it up in the thread for some reason.
I think that Palmar has been too silent so far. If he had been around for the rest of the game I would be less unsettled but right now, Palmar is in a pretty unique position because there are PMs in this game and 2 people already openly confirmed to be in PM contact with him and I suspect that this number may be higher. If he is town and he doesn't talk then how can he expect to live until tomorrow? Scum are going to be pretty scared of him but he's not doing anything to defend himself from them at all. Unless he's in contact with medic/jailer and he is pretty sure they're town, I think it's weird that he's being so silent. From what you said it doesn't sound like he is very busy in PM land.
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What the hell is the harm in asking my question to Jitsu? The only reason I can see is if you're scum and you don't want to bother him. My question is totally valid and as I told you, I've already brought it up in the thread but he just ignored it. I have no idea what my alignment has to do with that question. I don't want to use a PM option just to ask him a question that he might not answer anyway.
I don't think what Palmar has said this game makes him look as town as he did in Resistance 2.
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On March 14 2012 07:48 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2012 07:36 prplhz wrote:@Jackal58 I hope drunk Jackal58 can still think and then I hope that you shoot.
On March 14 2012 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:Jitsu is based on the discussions we've had in general - he's earnestly scumhunting and to be honest, your name hasn't come up...you might have convinced him Palmar is Palmar. I've felt the sting of his manipulation before. It was a gut thing mostly, until he arrived in the thread. And yes, the way he pushed DocH for information cemented my read on him. While Storm certainly helped, I've been told several times that I need to work on just having confidence in my reads - so that's what I'm doing this game. It doesn't help that Palmar's read of Caller and mine are at odds. -.- I don't like how you're convinced that Palmar is town this fast when it took you so long in Resistance 2. If you're talking to Jitsu then ask him why he never pushed Curu even though his case on me was that I was scum buddy with Curu. He doesn't want to answer me when I bring it up in the thread for some reason. I think that Palmar has been too silent so far. If he had been around for the rest of the game I would be less unsettled but right now, Palmar is in a pretty unique position because there are PMs in this game and 2 people already openly confirmed to be in PM contact with him and I suspect that this number may be higher. If he is town and he doesn't talk then how can he expect to live until tomorrow? Scum are going to be pretty scared of him but he's not doing anything to defend himself from them at all. Unless he's in contact with medic/jailer and he is pretty sure they're town, I think it's weird that he's being so silent. From what you said it doesn't sound like he is very busy in PM land. No, I can answer it here. My case on you was my perception of a scum slip. Stop saying my case is that Curu and you are scum buddies 1. I would say that that is more a by-product of you scum slipping in thread. I don't care if you think it's legit or not, or whether the odds are with you or the aren't. It's also widely known by now that I am not the best at analyses 2 (something that I can attest that I am trying to correct, and working hard trying to fix) but when I do see something that looks scummy, i'm going to call it scum. Period. I'm tired of reiterating the same thing over, and over, and over again. I felt that what I perceived 2 was enough to put my vote on you - at least, stronger then the case against Jackal, who claimed a blue role in the thread. That's all I had, and I felt it was STILL a stronger point the the case brought up on Jackal, which can more attest to the strength of your shit over mine. I am waiting to see other people's thoughts on you 2. I feel that if I go back and examine your filter, i'll only be looking for things that are scummy, and not looking at things subjectively 3. Would I vote for you still? Yes. Do I think Curu is scum? As a by-product of a your apparent fuck-up, I do. I know blues aren't all-powerful. But voting for a blue, in the thread, after he claims 4? Storm Mafia taught me that lesson. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice isn't going to be so hard. Looking back, after I was staying on par with the posts of the thread, I came across a defense, similar to this, with Curu. After you posted the defense, you seem to have just vanished 5, and came back into the thread only after the pressure on you seemed to have cool. This shit isn't Grand Theft Auto. The Police don't stop coming after you after you get three blocks away and to your safe house. You can lurk, but you can't hide. 5
1: But it is. Your case was that I misread Caller as Curu and for some reason you don't think I would just misread stuff so you think I was expecting Curu to post. You say that this means that we were in private contact with each other. Since Curu said that he wasn't PMing with anybody then we must be communicating in some other way, and you say that this is a QuickTopic, consequently Curu and I are scum buddies and that makes me scum. Your entire case rests on how you believe that Curu and I are scum buddies, yet you don't push Curu AT ALL.
If your case merely was that I misread something then you're really a JubJub.
+ Show Spoiler +I don't get why you're disregarding how Curu and I could be in PM contact. How do you know that he's telling the truth? If you think he's telling the truth because he's town then we can't be scum buddies.
2: Reeks of insecurity.
3: Word you're looking for is "objectively".
4: Didn't you read Curu's analysis of the claim? I don't recall you objecting to any of it other than blindly saying that you wont lynch claimer because in some other game the claimer turned out to be town or something.
5: Lurk but not hide? I have a lot more posts than you.
Whatever. This post is so bad you're probably town.
You can call me dick but you can't call me Curu.
Does anybody else think that Jackal58 isn't man enough to shoot tonight?
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okay i'm going to bed because i'm exhausted lol
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Who did you PM jaybrundage?
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Why aren't you PMing me? You agreed with just about everything I said so far.
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On March 15 2012 04:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I've been second guessing myself about Caller all game. I fail to see how that's scummy at all. In fact I've flip flopped a lot less than I usually do as town. Read AC or Storm, it's upsetting how inconsistent I am.
That's an almost undeniable scumslip by Kurumi there. Everyone should vote for Kurumi.
What is a scumslip?
I involuntarily cringe every time someone says "scumslip".
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On March 15 2012 04:59 Mattchew wrote:
prplhz did you use your 2 pms?
I saw you the first time.
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On March 15 2012 05:38 Kurumi wrote:http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/JoeyThat's why Rattata and no other pokemon. Because trainer Joey in Generation II brags about his Rattata in phone calls. That's it. Also, I guess my play worked. I guess You're mad, jaybrundage? Tried to recruit it me but it failed? Got'cha, scum. I trolled on Day 1 on purpose: I wanted to attract scum to use their traitor guess on me and fail. The top percentage Rattata is a joke in the pokemon communities. Look it up. I could've picked pretty much any Dark-type pokemon or Ghost-type. Maybe even Psychic. Although not of this type, there's a great pokemon suitable for such a crumb if I would like to do it: Sudowoodo because it's "Imitation Pokemon" as a species, it mimics a tree. Or even freaking Ditto, the Transform Pokemon. There was no reason for me to go for Rattata other than trolling purposes. There are dozens of better pokemon for this. I am not scum/traitor. Since Caller has proven to be indeed the Day Vigilante, I am unvoting him, as my theory falls apart. Too bad for regular scum member, trolly enough for Traitor. Yes I am indeed a Dreamer. Yes, there's a person that I've told what was my plan during D1 today. Yes, I got the info about Dreamflower role being in-game. I guess it was my first clue, probably the most accurate one I am going to have, comparing it to the second one. If someone is wondering, my gibberish was inspired by Salvatore from Name of the Rose. He used to be a heretic, but then became a monk to save himself after the main group was crushed. It was a hint that I know more about things because I've seen a lot(and that it might be useless, because of clues). I have given everything I know here but the second clue. That's what I've got to say. I am innocent, just as my Salvatore-style gibberish said. I can't do fireworks here, I am really sorry. I am a passive role. I am voting jaybrundage. His reason is terrible and could only be scum-driven. I have told all of You some time ago that I won't let my lynch ever happen early into the game. I am Town. Jaybrundage and his team are mad about me not being the traitor, so they picked me as the lynch target instead, saying I'm traitor. I have given scum such a chance, but I am not going to let them use it. You could have pushed me Day 1, but You didn't. Guess, You were still wondering about me, huh?
The pokémon babble in this post is impossible to understand. Yes, I do want to understand.
Hinting that you're traitor as town if so unspeakably dumb that it would be an insult not to lynch you.
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Also, jaybrundage said yesterday that he thought it looked like a traitor hint and that we should lynch you. Why the hell would he not just shut the hell up if he was scum and he really thought it was a real traitor hint?
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On March 15 2012 06:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 05:31 Jitsu wrote:On March 15 2012 05:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On March 15 2012 04:55 Jitsu wrote:
Hey DocH, why are you voting for Kurumi and not prplhz? Because Kurumi knows what roles are in the game i.e. he is mafia Yet, you thought prplhz had an equally telling scumslip, where he was near "confirmed," and this is also the same game where you wanted to hang me for posting against what I perceived as a scumslip as well, right? Cool. If you can point out where I said it was equally telling that'd be cool This is definitely worse than what prplhz said. Encouraging a suicide vig to shoot you is scummy as hell but it doesn't touch what Kurumi did. You don't think Kurumi is scum? Do you have blinders on because I called you out yesterday? Use your brain.
Yea it's so scummy that not only I wanted him to do it, Curu and Palmar too. Those people are pretty good at mafia, why aren't you on their back? I could just be a moron but those people can't use that excuse now can they? Why aren't you going for them?
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On March 15 2012 06:31 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 06:10 prplhz wrote:
Also, jaybrundage said yesterday that he thought it looked like a traitor hint and that we should lynch you. Why the hell would he not just shut the hell up if he was scum and he really thought it was a real traitor hint? 1st: He was after Jackal58 day one. He believed he was scum. He dropped him, without any mention on D2 and jumped on me without any strong evidence. He's now gone too. I have no idea what's going there, but I think it's scummy. I don't know how his team decided to play it out. They were probably convinced I am really traitor so they made Jay go for easy cred in case I die or something and try to recruit me and go from there. But it failed, because I am not the traitor. But thanks to my trap they can use it to push my lynch, I knew it could backfire on me. I took the risk for the greater good. Hey Jackal, did You get roleblocked tonight? You haven't said anything so I guess no.
Yes, I know he was also after Jackal58 on day1. Do you want me to go into his filter and find the post where jaybrundage, on day1, points out that what I found to be a traitor hint looks like it is a traitor hint and that we should lynch you?
You are describing a plausible scenario and not a probable scenario. There is no reason for scum to not just shut the hell up if they really think that you're the traitor.
I'm trying to wrap my head around how the hell a townie could think that it's a good idea to hint that he's a traitor. It's a horrible thing to do because of how bad it can go if it backfires. You could potentially waste an entire cycle with people flocking to your lynch because of your shit.
Who did you PM on day1 with your plan?
@DoctorHelvetica I never once said that Jackal58 should shoot me. I don't know where you're getting that from. I said that he should shoot, not that he should shoot me. If you read the thread you will see him calling me a bunch of things night1 but he never called me scum.
There are a bunch of people who feel like Jackal58 should have shot. I personally would have shot if I had the balls, I don't know if I do but I would imagine that Jackal58 does. I did this in Normal Mini Mafia II where I shot on night1 on vigilante because I knew that the next day would have been ruined if I didn't because a lot of people were pissed at me.
If you think that I was trying to get Jackal58 to shoot me, then why do you think I'm scum? I don't see why scum would want Jackal58 shooting at them. Can you please explain this?
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And I don't really care because I know you can't explain it.
Jackal58 dies if his target is town no matter if he is roleblocked or his target is saved. He said this in the thread.
If I'm scum and he shoots me and he survives then he can easily trade 1 for 1 with me. He can probably even get me lynched first because I'm popularly perceived to be the lesser player of the two of us. Why would I want this? I never thought he was going to shoot me but that's unimportant, you thought I thought he was going to shoot me and your shit doesn't make any sense.
You're not pushing your bullshit case because it's horrible and you're not going to get a single person to vote for me, and it doesn't look like you care. You can't even bother to argue with a 90% scum who wants to go over your arguments in a logical way. Jesus christ.
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