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On February 23 2012 03:16 Curu wrote: /in Please give me bullets and let everyone know they came from me! ##Aim: Curu | ||
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Jackal58, your bus didn´t kill Palmar, it didn´t even seriously injure him. Hoard Filler is probably just another name for Veteran. We should probably put a medic on him tonight. | ||
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On February 24 2012 00:16 Zephirdd wrote: wait did I just get trolled by everyone else who was posting until now? ![[image loading]](http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9108/successfultrollissuccesbw.jpg) | ||
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On February 24 2012 02:02 Palmar wrote: yeah kurumi that's fine, just put me up as cohost and let's get this show on the road. He´s fishing for setup information! Get him! | ||
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I plan to act scummy if Town, and to act Town if Scum. | ||
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On February 24 2012 06:12 Erandorr wrote: Syllo, thats just in bad taste, even if this is a Kaller styed game . There are no excuses for that kind of behavior , and everyone who does this is , frankly, a huge moron Look who´s trying to milk towncred by being "reasonable"! | ||
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On February 24 2012 14:09 Ciryandor wrote: Needs more Day[9] I wonder if we'll even get to that point. ##Assassinate kitaman27 You are doing it wrong, everyone knows what you are up to now. Do something like this instead; ##gently pat on the back: kitaman27 or ##give drink: kitaman27 | ||
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On February 25 2012 07:04 chaos13 wrote: What's up? ##Nuke: GreYMisT And this time I mean it! Oh, god damn it, it was you who started nuking? Mind explaining why? | ||
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On February 25 2012 12:10 Jackal58 wrote: Curu hadn't burned our retinas at the time I announced. I am flexible in my positions and policies. I can also lick my elbow. That is flexibility to the max. I shall kill Curu when I'm elected. Unless he starts posting pics of hot chicks. The Village People are not hot chicks. I don't believe Curu is up to this challenge. I bring a certain skill set to the job of Mayor tailored specifically for this game. 1 - I am irreverent. I don't give a shit what you believe, you're wrong. 2 - My grasp of the use of profanity exceeds anything any of you have ever witnessed before. I have many years of experience in professional profaning. I was an army platoon sergeant. I can swear at you in ways your mother never dreamed of. 3 - I have no conscience. Ripping your guts out doesn't bother me at all. 4 - I shot L in L night 1. Fuck with me. I dare you. 5 - My sense of humor is a national treasure that needs to survive til the end of the game. 6 - I've got god on my side. 7 - I get laid more than you do. 8 - I'm 100% guaranteed town. A vote for me is a vote for me. A vote for anybody else is wasted. 100% confirmed town? That settles it. ##Vote Jackal58 Curu, you heard the man, post hot chicks! | ||
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On February 25 2012 16:05 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I'm a compulsive vig. Anyone who doesn't vote me is a target. So if noone votes for you, then you get more targets to choose from? Also, what´s with the claiming? It´s not changing my mind one way or the other, unless the role somehow forbid you from running for office. I´m not putting a player into office to protect their ability, but to make sure we have a good scumhunter alive late in the game. If he can find scum among scummy lurkers, who cares what else he can do? I want a player whose scumsense I have confidence with, so not Nisani and CC, and Curu is irritating in general. Chaos13, why did you nuke Greymist? | ||
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On February 25 2012 19:04 A Killer Cuppa Tea wrote: I'm a politician. If i die on Odd days/nights, I win with town. If i die on Even days/nights, I win with Mafia. If I survive the game, I get a survivor win. I also gain "power" the longer I'm alive, but I've no idea what that means. Tell me, how would revealing your wincondition help you in any way? I´m leaning towards believing you, because it´s crazy enough to be true, but it still makes you look like a dangerous element, someone who would rather survive himself than help Town win, and possibly aid scum depending on the day. | ||
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On February 26 2012 00:19 sandroba wrote: Okay I want to try something out. ##Nuke Forumite You are nuking me to try something out? Great... | ||
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![[image loading]](http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7467/chickentikkay.jpg) Awww yeah, juicy! ##nuke Curu | ||
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On February 26 2012 03:29 Mattchew wrote: I still wanna be president/mayor/god What´s your stance on posthumous voting? | ||
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Anyway I´ll know in a few hours. Until then: Jackal for King of the World 2012! | ||
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On February 26 2012 20:22 syllogism wrote: I guess lynching him is fine but he can only win with mafia if he dies on a specific day, making it rather difficult to meaningfully cooperate with them He wins by surviving too, so he can win by being useless for all sides. Do you want a useless player around at LYLO? | ||
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On February 26 2012 21:05 wherebugsgo wrote: I often ask that question when I ponder whether or not to try to lynch you. You are one to talk. When was the last time you were alive at LYLO? You always get lynched long before that, and those who are alive are decent players, like me, and scummy lurkers who scum don´t want to kill, and town don´t have time or KP to take care of. If the nuke doesn´t land then I´m the one who´s going to have to choose between Cup of Tea and the other few survivors, and I don´t see him being there too as a good thing. | ||
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On February 26 2012 21:39 wherebugsgo wrote: Also if you're actually alive at lylo as town it inherently means you're one of the worst players in the game Yeah, I´m still learning the game, I know, big deal. In four in-game days I´m still the best pro-town player among scummy lurkers and lurking scum, and I say I´d rather have someone that I know might be town around, rather than Cup of Tea whose best play is surviving himself at all cost. Survivors are not pro-Town unless you force them to contribute or get lynched, that´s what you need to do, threaten him with a lynch until he helps town. | ||
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On February 27 2012 03:08 sandroba wrote: What? You nuked me! I don´t trust you, syllo, or GWB, so no, I´m not claiming to you. Sup Zephird/Forumite claim your role to syllo or die. And I don't mean lynch. On February 27 2012 03:20 Curu wrote: Not buying it, the last time we two played in the same game there was a lot of talk about proof, PM-information and giving items back and forth, just a bunch of WIFOM, and in the end Town lost because of it. To explain why: Right after I presented bulletproof evidence that I'm Town and claimed a very powerful Town role, he went and nuked me under the guise of "herr I'm trolling" but now he's playing all seriously and shizzle. Using dat disguise to get off a nuke on the best Town blue. Die. On February 27 2012 02:54 Curu wrote: In that last game the 3rd Party survivor aided scum, it´s interesting that you want to keep him alive in this one. Lynching this 3rd party is stupid. You're all stupid. | ||
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On February 27 2012 03:40 Curu wrote: I just ate an ice cream cone. It was Vanilla. ##Cone Forumite Oh, damn, I should have known. That means you MUST be a townie. I must have been wrong about Vanilla Townie too, he´s confirmed Town, it even says so in his name. | ||
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On February 27 2012 04:21 sandroba wrote: Forumite is stupid. Forumite is stupid. Forumite is stupid. Forumite is stupid. Forumite is stupid. Zephirdd is stupid. Zephirdd is stupid. Zephirdd is stupid. Zephirdd is stupid. Zephirdd is stupid. VanillaTownie is stupid. VanillaTownie is stupid. VanillaTownie is stupid. VanillaTownie is stupid. VanillaTownie is stupid. Opz is stupid. Opz is stupid. Opz is stupid. Opz is stupid. Opz is stupid. Looks like I´m not the only one who don´t trust you guys. | ||
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On February 27 2012 05:57 Zephirdd wrote: I'm with you bro I don't care the game type, claiming all the roles to someone is stupid. If you think my thought is anti-town, you have some serious problems. If you think asking everyone to claim their roles privately to yourself is a town move, you also have some problems. ![[image loading]](http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg543/scaled.php?server=543&filename=tumblrksczlyqbeu1qzx4k0.jpg&res=medium) | ||
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On February 27 2012 06:17 sandroba wrote: If you think not claiming your role and getting shot at/lynched for it is a town move then I have nothing else to say to you. You've allready nuked me, and you've repeatedly threatened to lynch me and/or nightkill me if I don´t reveal my role, I don´t think you can make your stance any more clear. | ||
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On February 27 2012 06:07 Zephirdd wrote: My bad. You're doing it wrong. + Show Spoiler [This is how you do it] + ![[image loading]](http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/132824110967.png) ##Brohoof | ||
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On February 27 2012 06:33 wherebugsgo wrote: Why the fuck are people calling me scum Scum campaign = Jackal IMO. if there is one, anyway. You are way less scummy than Sandroba+Syllo, but somewhere in the thread I connected you three. It could just be in my head. | ||
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3 nuked, Jackal lynched GWB, and 2 3rd Party modkilled? | ||
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On February 27 2012 07:13 Zephirdd wrote: What the fuck? wtf kind of blue behavior was that syllo/sandro? wtf really? and WBG was REALLY George LOL what the fuck seriously. WBG being GWB made sense, not the rest of it. Half the players claimed to those three players, and they are now dead. | ||
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On February 27 2012 07:37 GreYMisT wrote: Its important for us to look back and see who nuked syll, sand, and curu. We will know that those players have had at least one nuke at their disposal, possibly more. I nuked Curu. I´m not sorry that I nuked him. To bad he was blue, but with him it´s hit or miss, mostly he´s the scum that I miss. | ||
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On February 27 2012 07:37 GreYMisT wrote: Its important for us to look back and see who nuked syll, sand, and curu. We will know that those players have had at least one nuke at their disposal, possibly more. Do we get any usefull information from those who nuked, but didn´t kill their targets? | ||
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On February 27 2012 07:52 GreYMisT wrote: what I'm doing is very different then directing blues. Im trying to gather information in the form of whose nukes worked. Im also suggesting we stop typing the nuke command for now. Go read WaW if you have questions why. Greymist is making sense. Unless I have a very good reason, I won´t nuke anyone else. | ||
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On February 27 2012 08:04 Zephirdd wrote: Why wasn't risk killed after his nuke-o-rama? His nukes didn´t go off because of overnuking, and either both nukes on him were duds, or he had some kind of anti-nuke defence. There was a lot of weird ##-actions in the thread, some might have been real. | ||
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On February 27 2012 21:37 syllogism wrote: I'm a ghost. How about that mass claim now? My spirit will not rest until my work here is done. Great, syllo came back to haunt me... | ||
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In the middle of the night? Crazy talk. | ||
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On February 27 2012 23:44 blubbdavid wrote: Posting a case can be done at any time, but often best to do during the day, unless you expect to die during the night. In this case you could just as well have waited if you had wanted to. Wait, was it better to wait with my suspicions till day? Anyway I have two problems with your "case". First, I don´t see how Zeph and Jackal are under heavy suspicion, is that something you found in the Irc? Second, everyone calls everyone else scum and/or stupid in this game. Sandroba even had a role mechanic based on calling others scum, so using that phrase doesn´t prove anything. Those two players are probably talking over PMs too, just like Sandroba+Syllo did yesterday, but that doesn´t make them scum, it just makes them active, and provides another explanation for using the same phrase. As for specifically calling those voting for syllo scum and stupid, syllo and sandroba were heavily pushing a very weird plan of early massclaim, that they flipped blue doesn´t change the fact that the plan looked really scummy yesterday. I still think it´s a bad plan, who proposed it doesn´t matter. | ||
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On February 28 2012 01:24 Jayjay54 wrote: fun fact mattchew, i don't think denuke actually works :D also david finds a common term and is on to something. maybe WIFOM is the next code word. @forumite, how can you see jackal not a suspect at the moment? I see why some might think it´s suspicious, but I disagree with that. Syllo flipping blue doesn´t make Jackal scum, just as two players arguing, one flipping green, doesn´t make the other one red. All I know is that right now we have a good player as the Mayor, and noone has presented any arguments against him, besides "he won, he´s scum." Was he caught pushing an anti-Town agenda? No, he just happened to be on the opposing side of confirmed townies, confirmed townies that threatened people unless they roleclaimed to them. I´d be more suspicious if Jackal didn´t oppose syllo+sandroba. | ||
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On February 28 2012 02:49 Jayjay54 wrote: I am actually more angry about not lynching who he said he'd lynch... the fact that he was opposing town doesnt bother me as much...especially with the dictator townies involved Meh, I don´t mind him lynching WBG, I´m sure he had a good reason. He´s mayor because he´s good at this game on his own, not because he follows the voice of Town. In a way I´m glad that WBG, Syllo and Sandroba are gone, otherwise I´d be tunneling them so hard about now. | ||
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On February 28 2012 08:22 Nisani201 wrote: I like GGQ's case on vadersteven. We can deal with the black people tonight. ##Vote: vadersteven I think he wants us to deal with him during the night. | ||
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On February 28 2012 08:25 Zephirdd wrote: bro, jackal determines the lynch. we're fucked. That was yesterday, and he lynched WBG, now we vote to lynch. | ||
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On February 28 2012 08:34 Nisani201 wrote: If you have something to say then speak up. I think he´s dangerous, we don´t know what he can do and what his goal is. It could be a trick to make us visit him, or to stay away from him, and tomorrow he´ll get another power. I think we should just get rid of him. A primed nuke might be the safest way, I wouldn´t be surprised if he has mechanics that trigger on a lynch and/or nightkill. | ||
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A Killer Cuppa Tea of course. It´s safer to lynch or nuke than to leave him for nightkills, because noone knows what´s going to happen if he gets visitors tonight. | ||
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On February 28 2012 10:08 GreYMisT wrote: why lynch him as opposed to us all nuking him? thats the route im thinking about most atm. Sounds good, as long as at least one of the nukes are real. | ||
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On February 28 2012 19:43 blubbdavid wrote: So there is still the possibility that he's black? w/e, ##Nuke ZephirDD JJ54 is right, nuking/ lynching Tea would be a waste, Greymist is pushing too hard against him. I am for a Jackal lynch ##Vote Jackal58 Damn, you take care of your problems quickly. I can´t trust that nuke was real though, so going to ignore it. Zeph and Jackal just turned on eachother, I didn´t see that one coming. We have a check on one, and Zeph wasn´t voted Mayor yesterday. I don´t trust Sheth one bit, but if we do lynch Zeph, that should confirim Sheth. On February 28 2012 20:09 Zephirdd wrote: Do you have any confirmation about your sanity? go ahead and lynch me to confirm your sanity tbh, but I'm 100% sure you're either paranoid, insane or simply scum. protip: I win with town. I don't know if that makes me "town" or "not town", but I win with town. If there was a possibility that Sheth could be insane/paranoid/naive, don´t you think that would have been included in his role-PM? If that´s a possibility, then he wouldn´t claim his check immediately, he´d wait and see what those he checked would flip. He didn´t, so assuming Sheth is a lying scum or sane. | ||
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On February 29 2012 00:15 Forumite wrote: [bb] Phonepost failure, ignore. | ||
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On February 29 2012 08:18 Nisani201 wrote: I don´t trust Sheth one bit, but we have a DT-check, we have to do something about it. Either we believe Sheth, which means Zeph is scum and needs to be lynched, or we think Zeph has acted Townie enough to make us doubt Sheth's check, in which case we lynch Sheth and see how we flips. We can´t just ignore this, can we? What power does he have anyways? No we shouldn't trust a DT check because this is a bastard game and we really shouldn't trust anything. Personally I´m torn, we have a scumcheck on someone I´ve been leaning town on for most of the game, and it makes it tough to decide what to do. He only started looking odd when he and Jackal had a falling out. Still, it´s a DT check. Is it only I that pronounce Sheth and Zeph about the same in my head? On February 29 2012 08:45 Jayjay54 wrote: Sure, watch away. I know I´m not the most shining example of townieness after everyone started calling Jackal scum somewhere along the way. you mean me? first of all we got a DT check which should be followed (even in a bastard game) IMO. VT looks really bad and his vote sucked. GGQ's case on V7 makes sense as well. Mist and Forumite are on my close watch list. And where is nuke by the way? anyways, it's european sleep time. see you in 18 hours or so. | ||
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On February 29 2012 07:16 Mattchew wrote: fine. sheth's sanity ftw ##vote Zephirdd On February 29 2012 07:16 Mattchew wrote: but jackal is still scum. I kind of figured your read on those two allready. | ||
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On February 29 2012 10:48 evantrees wrote: Going with the dt check over lynching our dear mayor. But what kind of check returns not town? An alignment-DT? On February 29 2012 10:49 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Weird post. Yea lets lynch the DT, instead of the random guy he checked, then you know we'll know for sure if he was lying! Zeph is the smart lynch for today. I know hes Not Town, and so those not voting him are really interesting to watch. VanillaTownie is there a reason you switched from AKCT, to Zeph for no reason? Trusting your DT-check hinges on me trusting you, and I don´t. I´m accepting a Zeph lynch more on the basis that you are next if he flips town, than that I expect him to flip scum. | ||
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On February 29 2012 11:35 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Btw I really dislike whoever thiefed my role, why would you thief a DT? Anyway, I'm now vanilla. I imagine Zeph is 100% mafia now, and there somewhat afraid. Anyway a vote for Zeph is a vote for a happy town. What? You claimed DT then immediately claim you are not a DT anymore? This is that chaos13 mess all over again. | ||
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On February 29 2012 12:05 Nisani201 wrote: Sheth is black which means that I can kill him at night if I want to. However he doesn't seem scummy to me so he's not dying. What do you think happened? Sheth is insane, Sheth is scum, Zeph is a miller, or Zeph was framed? Can we trust Sheth even with his convenient loss of his role? It´s basically him confirming himself, without giving town anything in return. That doesn´t make it him scum, but it does look like a good scum move, especially if we end up NOT lynching Zeph today. | ||
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On February 29 2012 12:09 Zephirdd wrote: ... nisani, thats the kind of thing you keep to yourself or even lie to try and attract other black guys. He claimed yesterday, it was allready out in the open. | ||
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On February 29 2012 12:15 Nisani201 wrote: I talked to Sheth D1 through PMs and he claimed black and FBI Inspector to me so I don't think he's lying about his role. He's either insane or Zeph was framed (I framed Ciryandor last night if anyone is wondering). @Zeph I already claimed White Supremacist earlier in the thread and Sheth knowns of the danger he's in. I think I reluctantly mentioned in the IRC about having an "MLK-type role that could protect black people," and I later tried to draw them out with a warning post in the thread. If you are black you still have a chance to claim to me. Tonight I will probably frame Ciryandor again since he isn't black but later I might start framing random people. If you are town then you will have nothing to fear by claiming. Seriously? What kind of town-role uses a framer power? That kind of thing only serve to make it harder for cops to find scum. It´s crazy having it on a town role, if there is a possibility of that, then scum can easily claim "Oh, sorry about that, you got a scum-read on him, because I framed him last night, my bad!" It´s a hugely pro-scum power, and if it can be used by town then it becomes even more powerfull because it can be used to fool detectives even after they´ve checked! Sheth claims anti-town check on Zeph Nisani claims in order to protect Zeph Nisani is White Supremacist claiming an anti-town power Nisani and Zeph are defending eachother, are checked as scum, have scum powers, this makes them scum! | ||
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On February 29 2012 19:08 syllogism wrote: I'm sure Forumite has a very pro-town role since as even when he was facing lynch or vig hit he didn't think claiming was a good idea. He won't even claim to a confirmed town ghost! I CAST YOU OUT, EVIL SPIRIT! + <-- holy cross | ||
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On February 29 2012 19:59 syllogism wrote: Restless spirit from the beyond! Hear our question! Who were you in life? Were you a blue-flipping role-stealing recruiter scumghost? I was a ghost, but that didn't work out so my current occupation is the campaign manager of Forumite's election campaign. | ||
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On March 01 2012 01:00 Jackal58 wrote: He claimed his role was stolen. We know role thieves are in the game. We lynch Zeph. And go from there. His role was stolen, which means he´s a VT again. The usual rule against lynching the DT doesn´t really apply, because if we lynch Sheth we won´t lose a DT. Having said that, Nisani has been vouching for Zeph and claimed some weird things. This makes them either look like scum, liars, or members of an anti-town 3rd party white-supremacist faction with a "kill all blacks" win-condition. The solution in all 3 cases is to lynch Zeph, and depending on the result. | ||
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On March 01 2012 01:26 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Fine, lynch me then. Then, when I'm green you can kill Zephir next : / Black, not green. Nisani´s been hinting things that makes me think of an older game, probably a kaller game, where there was a 3rd party who were focused not on anti-town or town, but on a secondary role description, non-black and black, and could therefore win with scum. If it´s the same in this game then you and Nisani are not town-players, but more like serial killers. | ||
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On March 01 2012 01:29 Nisani201 wrote: I am town and it is not part of my wincon to kill black people. Your role seems tied to it. Why wouldn´t your win-condition be the same? | ||
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On March 01 2012 03:27 Nisani201 wrote: "Man in black who is not black" makes me think that he's white. Black, as in 3rd party. We can call your team the White 3rd party team if you want to. | ||
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On March 01 2012 03:56 Nisani201 wrote: Obviously I wont be able to pressure the black people who don't claim to me in-thread, because I don't know who they are. But they risk potentially dying each night. You have to frame someone, but can at least direct the action yourself, correct? You try to make sure you don´t kill blacks, or try to find them, one of those. If you now HAVE to frame, wouldn´t the most townie move be to do like Greymist says, frame the same person, AND claim that you frame him, just in case a DT checks them during the night. Your role can´t help town, but you could at least make sure you don´t hurt town any. | ||
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On March 01 2012 04:12 Nisani201 wrote: The black people that haven't claimed to me are scum. Why should I ignore the power that I have? There are so many things wrong with this. It´s basically syllo all over again. I´m prepared to wait and see how Zeph flips for a final verdict, but if black townies start dying, then you are the prime suspect, no matter if they claimed to you or not. Black roles not claiming to you is not a reason to shoot them. | ||
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On March 01 2012 04:50 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Hey, keep in mind I got my role stolen. o .o Are you saying you are not black anymore, or that you are black now? | ||
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On March 01 2012 05:32 Erandorr wrote: Are you sure you want to bring up race in the middle of your campaign? lol No, it just sounded on Sheth like his black/non-black status had changed. When is the deadline? | ||
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Sheth, explain Zephs flip! | ||
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On March 01 2012 07:18 vaderseven wrote: Actually my read on sheth is very town at this point. The scum cop claim gambit that makes sense really is one where he either busses to gain cred or leads one bad lynch and then claims not sane. His role was taken and we have a town flip on zeph. I just cant find a logical motive at this point for doing what he did (from a he is scum pov). Just because it´s a crazy scum-gamble doesn´t mean that it wasn´t one. If we don´t call out people on the crazy stuff they do then they´ll keep doing them. Right now we have a DT who was wrong, and isn´t a DT anymore, there are endless possibilities for scum to hide behind this. Sheth hurts town and can´t help town anymore, the theft abolishing him from any further responsibility, that´s what makes me think Sheth is scum. | ||
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On March 01 2012 08:08 Nisani201 wrote: Alright so if there is a medic I'd like to be protected tonight. I have a lead on a possible black person and he is getting aimed at. In other news, you guys shouldn't have lynched Zephirdd, and we are lynching Jackal tomorrow. Whatever, "The Man". For someone who just lost your bodyguard, you didn´t do much to protect him. | ||
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On March 01 2012 08:30 Nisani201 wrote: Why would we want to protect you? You are an anti-town "blue" whose power at best do no damage, at worst mess up DT-checks and kill townies. Well, someone wants me dead, and it's in town's best interests to keep me alive. Hopefully the medic(s) understands this better than you do. On March 01 2012 08:31 Bluelightz wrote: Says Nisani. We know that "The Man" is in the game, nothing more. We have no proof that Nisani is the one. Nisani is confirmed town then (THE MAN)!!! | ||
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On March 01 2012 08:55 Nisani201 wrote: Well no one has countered my claim, so I definitely am. True. If "the Man" hasn´t claimed or died within 7 in-game days, then I guess I´ll have to believe you. | ||
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On March 01 2012 14:30 Ciryandor wrote: Do we have any alternatives for Jackal, in case he dies tonight? Why are you convinced we should lynch jackal in the first place? | ||
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On March 01 2012 21:24 blubbdavid wrote: During night? That I get killed? Jackal, medic me. If you really are afraid of getting killed tonight, just PM someone you trust. If you die they can post your analysis. | ||
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On March 02 2012 20:24 Bluelightz wrote: I failed to send Palmar a PM night 1 ;| I am a DT. I´m not saying I don´t believe you, Sheth caused the mislynch yesterday after all, but a single DT check is easy to fake if you can´t be counterclaimed on earlier check results. Sheth claimed his role was stolen, so he can´t confirm himself with another check, making both of you basically in the same situation. Both you and Sheth are unknowns, but at least you haven´t gotten a townie lynched allready. | ||
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On March 03 2012 10:38 vaderseven wrote: Why are you defending Sheth when it´s clear that he´s hurting town? He might have been confirmed by some players whose alignment we have no idea of yet, but he´s also admitted to lying because he wanted town to kill on his whim. I just can´t accept that, it´s awesome when you pull it off and lynch scum on a fake DT-check, but it´s a disaster when it fails, and it almost always fail. To prevent this kind of thing is why we lynch liars, because townies should never lie, and so that scum who do ballsy moves like this are not allowed to be left alone, but are taken care of on the spot. Sheth lied to make the lynch his own killpower, and we lynch him for it. Thats a much more readable version of what I was try to ask him. Like really a vote on sheth right now takes a large leap of assumption no matter how 'bad' or 'scummy' has been (and personally, I think it was one of the two with the cop stuff). On March 03 2012 06:55 Liquid`Sheth wrote: A WIFOM mess, did you do an obviously weird move because you thought your metagame would protect you from a lynch, because town would never believe you were actually caught in an obvious lie? I understand how some might consider your playstyle when listening to cases on you, but YOU calling attention to your OWN metagame as a defence doesn´t mean a thing, except that you are aware of your own metagame, and therefore fully capable of changing it. If you can change your metagame, then you could just as well have done so in order to prepare a defence once you get called out for your scum move.I think I'm actually playing too badly to be mafia. Like I think my mafia buddies woulda been like, easy bus to gain some town cred and sheth's completely useless choo choo! T.T On March 03 2012 00:34 Liquid`Sheth wrote: I agree that it´s very likely that the one switching roles is a townie, but that doesn´t mean you are a townie, it only means you´ve fooled one of them. There are several different scenarioes where you could still be lying, and your scum move and the DT check makes me think that´s what happened. Even without the DT-check, I can´t forgive you for lynching Zeph. You lied to get him killed and ignored the voices against you, I want to lynch scum who do that, and I definetly want to lynch townies who do that. Either way, you have to die. Ok : I've been the pacific ocean for forever, however it got removed or switched last night with nisani. I'm not "the man" or w/e. The reason I claimed DT was to remove someone I thought the scummiest in Zephirr, and even if he wasn't scum I figured well then town will lynch me. This wasn't a problem at all, as that would prove I was town and mafia coudln't do anything about it. (pacific ocean is unlynchable / killable). And now Nisani has this roll. Anyway thats the truth of things and I realize I lied a ton day 1 through now, but eh I was untouchable, unkillable and powerful. Some things to point out -- Whoever is switching our rolls has to be townie (otherwise just give the unkillable roll to 1 mafia and the game is over, would be a bit too broken). Bluelightz is a wrongful DT, or I've been framed (however I'm a compulsive framer and didn't frame myself so not sure how many framers in the game.) Alternatively Bluelightz could be scum and hes not afraid to put himself out there. VT why aren't you posting much lately? Wheres the VT attitude!? Also greymist can somewhat corroberate my story. And Nisani you should know I'm town, as why would mafia get an unkillable roll? The fact that you wan't me dead because I was unkillable is kinda funny. I think it´s also very suspicious that Sheth relies more on his status as "confirmed" than trying to answer the case against him. He has a DT-check and pro-scum move against him, he doesn´t admit to his mistake about Zeph, sound proud of it instead, and doesn´t try very hard to discredit the DT-check or the one claiming to have gotten the DT-check. If he was town he´d have known that he was either framed or the current check is a lie, he knows one of those are true, but that´s not what he´s been talking about. He´d also feel at least somewhat embarassed that he got someone mislynch on his own read, when so many disagreed with him on that read ##vote Liquid`Sheth | ||
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On March 03 2012 22:41 vaderseven wrote: I hadnt considered the idea of 3rd party ocean. Why 3rd Party? Why not a simple scum who was convincing in PM-land? | ||
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On March 04 2012 06:38 jaybrundage wrote: This is dumb V7 isn't scum. If he was mafia would of made a distraction case on someone. It is probably to late to change the vote. But we dont need to waste a lynch on him. Imma vote Vanillla townie and i suggest other people do the same. In this case I think it´s not wasting a lynch, but confirming a player. How did the lynch on V7 start in the first place? | ||
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On March 04 2012 07:10 syllogism wrote: I don't necessarily know anything about your role. All I know is that you should have been lynched but weren't. There are multiple explanations for that, with the least likely being that you are indeed lynch proof. Well, in a normal game at least. You are suspecting some kind of "No-lynch"-power? | ||
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On March 04 2012 07:15 syllogism wrote: I'm not interested in you anymore now that town decided not to elect you Free! I´m FREE! The Evil presence has left! | ||
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On March 04 2012 11:08 jaybrundage wrote: Sheth i would like to say that lying about a DT check was/is very anti town. And i am disappoint : ( I almost want to lynch Sheth for LaL but i think hes town : / Where were you yesterday? Anyway town has spoken, they trust the confirmation of a few players, making Sheth town. In the face of that it doesn´t matter how anti-town he is. Until one of those confirming him flips red and throws doubt on the confirmation, we have to consider that Sheth is probably Town. | ||
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Sheth, is this about the oil again? | ||
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We´ve had several deaths, but the only black flip is GGQ. This makes me think Nisanis blackhunting role is a town role, an anti-cultist KP with a drawback. He should still name those he checks afterwards, or before in PMs. Yes, I know most have treated Nisani as confirmed for a long time, I'm just more paranoid than most. | ||
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On March 05 2012 16:37 Bill Murray wrote: BM is on to something! I´m telling you, syllo is a blueflipping roleswapping recruiterghost! syllogism, your last post reeks of having too much information, and hunting 3rd party why are you hunting 3rd party right now, unless you're scum? | ||
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On March 05 2012 09:59 Bluelightz wrote: I'm claiming my full role: Batman! I can vig/dt each night. Last night I vigged forumite but not sure why it didnt hit. Right now I don´t know what happened to this nights hit on me, but I´d like to know the results of your nightkills and DT-checks from all the earlier nights. | ||
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On March 05 2012 19:30 blubbdavid wrote: I am ready to claim if you want me to. But it isn't a very important role. Why do you want to claim if it´s an unimportant role? Do you have some information, because I don´t think there is that much pressure on you right now. | ||
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On March 05 2012 20:12 blubbdavid wrote: I can roleblock. But who should I? That's the kweschtschn. So you have an anti-town power that won´t confirm you as town, because anyone roleblocked have probably allready claimed it allready, and even if not then correctly naming the roleblocked targets only confirm your role, not your alignment. This feels like another of those moments where you have to be telling the truth, because noone would ever try to tell a lie like that. | ||
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On March 05 2012 21:43 syllogism wrote: I like how forumite thinks attempting to lynch and failing vaderseven "confirms" him, while every other time a player has claimed or done something, he has said it says little about the alignment of the player or even makes him more likely to be mafia. This is why you should have elected him on day 2. I accept that there might exist a scum-controlled one-use only no-lynch power, as well as a scum medic, both which were used to save V7 from a lynch and nightkill yesterday. Are you up for lynching V7 again to confirm? | ||
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On March 06 2012 01:02 vaderseven wrote: We can do that but at some point you gotta realize we can play that game forever. I need to re read all the filters today. I have some free time later so I will do that. You don´t think wasting another lynch on you is a bad thing? We´ve allready wasted one on Sheths fakeclaim, and yesterday on you. At least lynching you gave something, we know that there are either two oceans, or one ocean and some other anti-lynch role, but lynching Zeph was total waste. | ||
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On March 06 2012 01:39 Liquid`Sheth wrote: oh my bad ##Nuke Vaderseven Do you still have a nuke left? Fakenuking now would be a very, very bad move, because as far as I know we are only informed of nukes that kill their target, not if a failed attack was a fake or stopped by anti-nuke defences. | ||
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On March 06 2012 02:13 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Yea the "man" gains a nuke after he kills his first black person (GGQ). I´ll have to take your word for it. Good move by the way. We´ve tested lynchproof and bulletproof, we haven´t tested if he can survive a nuke, and using a nuke on V7 is better than lynching him again. | ||
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On March 06 2012 04:21 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Sheth, Y U Fakenuke? The fact that you ask this makes me think your not an ocean. Oh snap and Jayjay thought my bluff woudln't do anything! I have no nuke, I never had one. Syllo blocked it. Anyway, point is I'm UNKILLABLE. I'm not BP, I'm freaking unkillable I'm an ocean. He'd know this if he was actually an ocean. Assuming V7 is not an ocean, what does that make him? He survived a lynch, how? | ||
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On March 06 2012 05:34 blubbdavid wrote: I think that THE MAN more refers to a person, like it did to George W. B., and is not actually a role itself. What are you talking about? Does your role-PM say you are the The Man? Who else could it be except someone named The Man? God? | ||
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On March 06 2012 05:40 blubbdavid wrote: No, Charlie Sheen. But still not sure if I am actually the man. Why would you think Charlie Sheen is The Man? | ||
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Bluelightz, why? What´s making him scum? He did look bad yesterday with his redcheck on Sheth, but if that´s the reason to lynch, why didn´t we lynch him yesterday? | ||
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On March 06 2012 09:44 Bill Murray wrote: isnt syllo dead? Yeah, I heard that too. | ||
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On March 06 2012 09:11 vaderseven wrote: (point being he isn't confirmed) Noone is 100% confirmed, but after a while you´ll just have to trust your strongest townreads, hope they are correct and go after the rest. There´s a tiny, possibility that Matthew was tricked into confirming Sheth and Nisani, but I´m not going to test that. We didn´t lynch Sheth for lying about the Zeph-check yesterday, I don´t agree with that but the solution is not to lynch him today. Town decided yesterday that he´s town, we´ll just have to go with that for now. | ||
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On March 06 2012 10:08 Bill Murray wrote: GM, bluelightz looks scum to most and I assume you disagree. Why is what he´s done town play? vader is trying to lynch out of people he thinks are 3rd party that is a mafia tell why was he unable to be lynched? try to vig him, blue | ||
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On March 06 2012 10:23 vaderseven wrote: Okay, you were not pushing a lynch. It´s still tricky. If whatever made us trust him at first still apply, then we´ll probably come to the same conclusion, and right now we don´t have time for an exercise in WIFOM. More than half the night was you and Sheth trying to make the other one slip about your powers, we don´t have time for that now, save it for tomorrow if at all. Im not pushing a Sheth lynch. Im saying it seems silly to think that night actions have confirmed him when you take the amount of lieing he has done. I dont want to enter lylo and have people saying Sheth has been confirmed for a long time. I want people to be looking at the whole picture constantly. | ||
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On March 06 2012 16:33 EchelonTee wrote: bluelightz is getting bandwagon'd forumite obvious scum. I'm nuking him unless people convince me otherwise in case you were wondering I'm obviously the man with the nukes. Explain to me, why is bluelightz town? His actions in this game are hurting town, he pushed Sheth when he looked suspicious after his mislynch, and would probably have succeeded if it wasn´t for Sheth getting confirmed, then instead of doing the obvious thing, DT-check, he went with the unconfirmable action, claiming a kill that didn´t hit, after the fact no less. Now he´s disappeared, just like after his failed case on Sheth. His actions are anti-town, he´s lurking when not making weak cases, and I was just about to vote him myself, so tell me, why is he town? Defend him, don´t just make a soft defend of he´s "getting bandwagon'd". | ||
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On March 06 2012 20:00 Bill Murray wrote: I'm going to as well I don't trust Forumite, or VaderSeven I also get a scummy vibe from Sheth. I feel like he might be a Serial Killer. If Sheth is an SK, what does that make Nisani? They switched roles and Nisani confirmed that Sheth was town. Matthew, the switcher, is allready confirmed, do you really think Sheth and Nisani are 3rd/scum and they fooled Matthew? | ||
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On March 07 2012 02:00 GreYMisT wrote: I understand that mattchew was a town player, the problem was we did not know so at that time, only that there was a role thief in play. I had a townread on Matthew early, I had no idea that he was the switcher though. Anyway that doesn´t matter. A Town-switcher would use his power to save pro-town powers and confirm people, while a Scum-switcher would use it to get powerfull anti-town powers for his scumbuddies, remove pro-town power from the game, and create as much WIFOM and confusion as possible. With people getting confirmed and the powers going to people who then flipped town, it was not a stretch to believe the switcher was town himself. | ||
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On March 07 2012 04:04 blubbdavid wrote: The true reason is to banish syllo. He demands a human sacrifice. What are you talking about? | ||
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On March 07 2012 03:57 Jayjay54 wrote: well a) you weren't suspicious of jackal b) you accused zeph and nisani of being scum c) you pushed sheth on an absolute wrong timing d) you are probably the only one who haven't claimed to anyone yet I wasn´t suspicious of Jackal because I´m by default leaning town on him, and because noone made a case on him. Some people just got suspicious because he won when townies running for mayor died. Sheth, whatever, I was busy that day. It´s not like my vote did any difference. | ||
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On March 07 2012 06:43 Liquid`Sheth wrote: I trust syllogism, and I have other reasons! : ) Mind revealing them? I´d like to at least know what this bandwagon was all about. | ||
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Lynch blue for me tomorrow. | ||
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On March 07 2012 06:54 Kurumi wrote: Wait did syllogism actually start a lynch or something More or less. | ||
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On March 07 2012 07:04 Liquid`Sheth wrote: How'd you win? o .o I got lynched WAY before you guys. Resistance just ended, I need a new game, guess I´ll just lurk here for now. | ||
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On March 07 2012 07:06 Liquid`Sheth wrote: The only person this makes town is syllogism! LOL Nah, syllo is a blueflipping, rolestealing recruiterghost who just BUSSED HIS TEAMMATE! This calls for an epic Ghost-vs-Ghost battle! | ||
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For the Motherland! | ||
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Now it looks like I am here to stay... | ||
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We don´t say that name! Speaking THAT name summons the noisy one! | ||
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On March 14 2012 04:49 Nisani201 wrote: <3I thought I knew, but now I know On March 14 2012 04:56 vaderseven wrote: Nope 1 hour till day post *twidles thumbs* wanna say wtf is going on?  Also more like 2 hours. No tricking the GM. | ||
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22:00 GMT (+00:00) | ||
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Central Daylight Time: 21:00 GMT (+00:00) CST =/= CDT Also: /dance | ||
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On March 14 2012 06:36 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Hey Forumite, how does it feel knowing your team loses? Yay we win Syllogism! Lol, I win with or without my team ;D Bastard Mod is Best Mod! | ||
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On March 15 2012 02:22 Bill Murray wrote: I disagree Forumite was "just because of syllogism" I realized syllogism was dead I also had a huge scumread on forumite, you, and v7 check my posts What gave me away? You might have had a huge scumread on me, but there was very little talking about my scumminess in the thread, my lynch felt very odd, which is why I was almost certain that it was cult-motivated. | ||
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On March 15 2012 03:11 vaderseven wrote: They surviving means everybody wins. Check the spreadsheet out. If forumite had ever gotten the kids then only the winning team would have won. Nonsense! If kids are introduced to the wonders of Communism, then | ||
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