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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 19 2012 18:38 GMT
#24
supersoft!!!
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2012 10:34 GMT
#56
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2012 12:56 GMT
#66
Last invitational was Responsibility Mafia! (18 invitees out of 20 players I think) and I don't think we had any notable issues with activity in that game. Well, there was Chezinu who suddenly decided he wanted to be an asshole but that's not really anything the host can be held responsible for. No clue why he didn't get a 5 game ban, I have it in my post-game notes that I wanted to complain loudly about him. Anyway,
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 21 2012 00:56 GMT
#176
I'm going to reply to risk.nuke's post.

@risk.nuke Who do you want to smite and why? What are these pro-scum agendas that redFF is pushing? Why are you not voting for him when you want to lynch him?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 02:14 GMT
#444
Okay I don't think that redFF is scum because he's been pretty out there. The scummiest he has done in my opinion is his claim which was oddly timed. Right now he's a terribly easy lynch, because we'll have to lynch him at some point. I'd like to see wherebugsgo explain how everything redFF has done can be explained by scum motivation and can not be explained by town motivation. The worst thing about this whole redFF thing is that the lynch is so easy that everybody can just pile onto him and then the day is kinda ruined, we aren't going to find anybody else. I don't think that redFF is scum because he's just been putting himself too much in the line of fire.

BloodyC0bbler isn't taking syllogism's accusations seriously (for some reason, nobody is even though syllogism is pretty good at mafia). There are more in the accusations than just "BloodyC0bbler doesn't have a read 5 hours in", he is saying that your mindset doesn't seem focused on finding scum. I totally agree with this. He specifically quotes this:

On February 21 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
[...]
I am currently more intrigued at the people who have let policy discussion run so damn rampant for even this short a duration of a game who (in my mind) should know better.


You see that the discussion is bad, you say that people should try to find whoever is responsible for this, but you never do this. You are the one guilty of strawman arguing when you insinuate that syllogism's accusation was just based around how you didn't have any reads 5 hours into the game.

Additionally there's plenty of bad stuff in your filter. This post where you complain about what's being discussed without providing anything of an alternative. You were just as guilty in letting the initial discussion get out of hand as those people whose existence you alluded to but never tried to find. I understand that you might not like how redFF was being a douche towards Ace but your comments on that doesn't count as a contribution. You didn't post a single read this entire game, and I don't care if anything is 5 hours into the game or whatever, reads are what push this game foward, AMIRITE?

So, BloodyC0bbler, is redFF scum or is he just best lynch because of the situation he's gotten himself in? Do you have other scum reads?

I'll vote redFF to avoid no lynch. I kinda assume that this is an extended majority lynch where we can end up in a no lynch sitaution, but the OP doesn't really say anything about that. But like, redFF probably isn't scum, come on. There's also plenty good in having him around since scum can't role block anybody else no matter redFF's alignment. The lynch today comes down to "We very likely have to lynch redFF at some point, should it be today or do we have something better?". Right now, I think it's too early to say.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 02:19 GMT
#447
Okay maybe it does, I just didn't remember from when I read it, and then I just went to page 1 and ctrl+F'd "majority" and "plurality" and didn't find anything.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 02:29 GMT
#449
@wherebugsgo It did appear very clearly in the OP that you can't ask questions to the host in the thread though, you have to PM your questions. Also, I think it's plurality lynch.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 02:29 GMT
#450
@wherebugsgo How do you feel about syllogism's accusations against BloodyC0bbler?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 02:46 GMT
#453
Cool.

Anyway, don't you think that this redFF lynch is an easy way out for scum? Right now, it's going to be very hard to argue against a redFF lynch and I don't think he's scum because he's just been too much out there. All of his "misrepresentation" looks like he was just a bit overburdened by the load he put on himself, and I don't really think they look overly malicious. When was the last time you saw a scum go out during the first hours of day1 and misrepresent somebody's opinions to legitimately push their lynch? Everybody in this game can right now just jump on redFF with 20 hours left in the day and that would kinda be ruinous if redFF isn't scum.

The only thing that looks really weird to me was his claim but he did announce in the thread that he would claim soon if people started piling onto him. Then you started pushing his lynch and he claimed and that makes it kinda expected. Also, his extra information (busdriver/redirector conjecturing) seems like too much hassle for redFF if he was really scum.

If redFF is your strongest scum read, who's your second strongest scum read?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 02:56 GMT
#456
@wherebugsgo Ad hominems are really fucking stupid in this game. There are hardly any new players you could hope to bully into anything. All you can achieve is make people dislike you which will reduce your town pull, or maybe starting a pissing contest that will make it harder for meaningful discussion to take place while cluttering up the thread.

So maybe you could cut down on them. Also, my neck is fucking killing me so I'm probably a bit cranky right now.

@RebirthOfLeGenD So, redFF or BloodyC0bbler, who's it gonna be?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 03:56 GMT
#476
@kitaman27 I thought it was majority lynch back then so I said that I'd vote redFF to avoid no lynch. I think it's plurality lynch now and we'll see what I do. I'm pretty sure I said in a game not 4 months ago that I prefer no-lynches to lynches. Right now, I'm contradicting myself and that makes me scum? If I back down them I'm also contradicting myself (cf. the argument you made against redFF in the beginning of this game) and this also making me scum? I support lynches because redFF could conceivably be scum, I just don't think so. I just like a flip and this is my subjective opinion, it doesn't really make sense to discuss it right now.

@wherebugsgo My point is that, you knew before you joined this game that I'm stupid and you probably knew a lot of other people are stupid and that it's very unlikely that we've suddenly improved rapidly. You knew this unless you are stupid. Were you stupid? This is the situation you have put yourself in. Now you're throwing ad hominems around (yes, saying that player Y is more likely to be wrong because of the mere fact that player X agrees with him is an ad hominem on player X) and that's just making people think you're an asshole, clouding their judgement in emotions, which you should expect it to do. You know this unless you are stupid. Are you stupid? I like Jackal58 more right now just because he said he'd shoot you to make this game more enjoyable, that doesn't really make sense but that's how it is. This is the situation you've put yourself in, you're actively not making the best of it and you can't explain that away.

My roleblocker point was the same that kitaman27 just made, redFF's existence ties up a roleblocker if they have one. If redFF is scum and they roleblock somebody else they force redFF to make his findings public which would give us more info to base a lynch on, which is good. If redFF is town then we get some hopefully juicy information, which is good.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 04:03 GMT
#479
... no you didn't. If you think you did, then why aren't you pushing me since you just proved that I'm scum?

Maybe that sounded wrong, I support lynches over no lynched as long as it not anybody who isn't just about confirmed town. By support lynches, I don't mean "I will support any lynch from the first vote until the guy hangs, just because he's not confirmed town", but this should be rather obvious from my behavior so far so I don't really get what you're trying to do.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 18:06 GMT
#566
I'd be very dissatisfied with getting lynched day1. I have been quite busy but I'm around so start shooting if you have anything. I'm still at page 27 when syllogism starts gunning for me so I'm not totally up to date.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 18:17 GMT
#578
So what about the timing?

I don't have a lot of time, try read the game carefully, make a ton of notes, see that you're pushing me and I say that I'm here. Would it be more townie of me not to say that I'm here when I'm about to get lynched or what are you getting at?

I don't think that redFF is scum because his claim timing and his lack of activity was announced in the thread beforehand, his activity and putting-himself-outthere seems very townie. The wagon is also rolling too easy. It was stupid of me to say that we'd have to lynch him at some point, you have pointed out that we don't and that's a pretty simple conclusion and I support that. I think BloodyC0bbler is more scummy, but I think there might be better targets today that I'm more comfortable with. This is like Responsibility Mafia! where BloodyC0bbler was just gone, but he has been scummy so far.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 18:19 GMT
#581
I am not lying, it takes more time than 15 mins for me to read up on a page and make notes.

You should think this over syllogism because you're dead wrong and I think you have been right in just about everything else so far. I am trying my best this game, I am being active when you need me to be and I'm not being disruptive at all. There are way better targets around for a last-minute-switch.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 18:22 GMT
#583
On December 22 2011 13:49 wherebugsgo wrote:
[...]
You have a ton of notes? Really? Mind sharing some of them with us?

On December 22 2011 13:53 prplhz wrote:
Yes.

I'm not posting my notes.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 18:28 GMT
#588
I don't think redFF just ragequit, he said yesterday that he would be unavailable today and that's why he would claim early. I doubt he was lying when he said that. I'm down with a Blazinghand lynch too because of the meta arguments that Dirkzor put forward combined with how he's generally just trying to be an asshole and I don't think that's good for town. I don't think we lose anything by killing him if we're wrong and there's a lot better chance of him flipping scum than there is of redFF flipping scum.

You can dismiss this as "trying to get the bandwagon rolling on somebody else" as much as you want.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 18:29 GMT
#589
On February 23 2012 03:27 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 03:19 prplhz wrote:
I am not lying, it takes more time than 15 mins for me to read up on a page and make notes.

You should think this over syllogism because you're dead wrong and I think you have been right in just about everything else so far. I am trying my best this game, I am being active when you need me to be and I'm not being disruptive at all. There are way better targets around for a last-minute-switch.


Names would be nice. Who are those people who are supposed to be way better targets?
Why are you mentioning that but I have to ask you about this? Why are you not just trying to help right now and tell us what you think in the first place?

Because I didn't want to post as long as I wasn't in danger of getting lynched and as long as I wasn't fully up date with my notes and with reading filters.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 18:36 GMT
#594
..................... because I didn't want to needlessly say something I didn't mean because I posted when I wasn't up to date with the thread.

I always think it's weird with people reading up on thread and then being all like "Yea, I have a comment on something that happened 10 pages ago." when that's already been discussed over the next 10 pages. You are grasping at straws.

It is true that I have been pretty useless so far but I have acted with town's best interests in mind all the time, and I am very open to giving reads right now (because I'm up for lynch and I don't want to get lynched, it's better for me to say something I might not have said if I was really up to date than it is to get lynched).
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 18:38 GMT
#595
On February 23 2012 03:33 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 03:29 prplhz wrote:
On February 23 2012 03:27 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 23 2012 03:19 prplhz wrote:
I am not lying, it takes more time than 15 mins for me to read up on a page and make notes.

You should think this over syllogism because you're dead wrong and I think you have been right in just about everything else so far. I am trying my best this game, I am being active when you need me to be and I'm not being disruptive at all. There are way better targets around for a last-minute-switch.


Names would be nice. Who are those people who are supposed to be way better targets?
Why are you mentioning that but I have to ask you about this? Why are you not just trying to help right now and tell us what you think in the first place?

Because I didn't want to post as long as I wasn't in danger of getting lynched and as long as I wasn't fully up date with my notes and with reading filters.

That sounds almost too bad to be scum. You say you are trying your best, try to be active when "i need you (????)" and you've been making tons of notes. Yet despite all this, you have made no effort at all to stop a lynch of someone you consider town from happening. You never really even said who you would like to be lynched instead.

What the fuck are you talking about. I complained about the redFF lynch and pushed the BloodyC0bbler lynch. Right now I am trying to stop the lynch of me and pushing the Blazinghand lynch. It may not be the best around but it's a ton better than me. You are trying to pull arguments out of the thin air with the "dissatisfied getting lynched day1" argument and the timing-argument. I agree with the other things you've said, I haven't been performing as I ideally wanted to be and as people would probably expect me to be.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 18:43 GMT
#599
You need me here because I'm up for lynch and I'm a big part of the opposition to that. I think that if I weren't here, then there would be a bigger chance of me getting lynched which is not in town's best interest.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 18:49 GMT
#602
Off the top of my head, BloodyC0bbler is the one who looks most scummy to me. sylllogism, DoctorHelvetica and myself have made posts on him and I like those posts. Since we have dropped the BloodyC0bbler lynch I think that Blazinghand is a good lynch for town, especially if I'm the alternative.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 18:52 GMT
#606
I also think that Jackal58 is being weird with his insistence on the possibility of several scum factions (ludicrous), his flip flopping on redFF (town redFF wouldn't think Jackal58 is a good scum hunter is a terrible argument, saying that we shouldn't lynch redFF anyway because Palmar will take care of him. What the fuck, you lynch scummy bastards you don't just expect them to get modkilled because they didn't talk for a day). Also, his Toadesstern tunneling looked very weird since I think we were beyond the more randomy initial phase when he started that. I don't care that he was drunk.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 18:54 GMT
#608
If BloodyC0bbler is a possiblity then I'm more up for that than anything else. I'm a little unsure of him but he's a ton better than lynching me. You can say that I am flip flopping, trying frantically to stay alive and that's true. When you're up for lynch then you would lynch anybody else (maybe besides syllogism who I think should be medic/jailed tonight).
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 18:56 GMT
#610
Like, I think BloodyC0bbler is scummy but I'm always kinda unsure about my reads (because, allegedly, I'm bad). Sometimes I just fake it but I'm not doing that in this game because that wouldn't help on this crowd anyway.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 19:01 GMT
#614
On February 23 2012 03:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 03:56 prplhz wrote:
Like, I think BloodyC0bbler is scummy but I'm always kinda unsure about my reads (because, allegedly, I'm bad). Sometimes I just fake it but I'm not doing that in this game because that wouldn't help on this crowd anyway.


Ah yes waffle more

Be an asshole who is terrible at this game some more. Which is better?

I'm not waffling, I'm saying that I want to lynch BloodyC0bbler over anybody else. Being insecure about your read when you're accusing BloodyC0bbler is just common sense more than anything else. I heard that BloodyC0bbler is good at scum and this seems a bit easy, but then again he is good at town too. I have no idea why he's acting like this but bottom line is that it's scummy.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 19:34 GMT
#617
Actually, Jackal58 looks terrible. Those points I just mentioned, his weird defense of me (it was a meta-y defense and I don't think I looked anything like I usually do), saying that syllogism is a better lynch than me which is just crazy considering the information he had available. This post which is guilty of the same thing we're accusing BloodyC0bbler of, complaining about thread without providing an alternative direction.

The only thing that speaks in Jackal58's defense is that it's usually hard to distinguish his scum from his town play. I'm easily more willing to lynch Jackal58 today than redFF.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 19:39 GMT
#618
redFF didn't ragequit, he said yesterday that he wouldn't have a lot of time to post today and said that he would claim early because of this. He was obviously quite pissed at the situation but that's somewhat understandable. That doesn't change the fact that you lynch scummy people and don't just count on them being modkilled. He could be replaced and stuff. You lynch people you think are likely to be scum, right?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 20:24 GMT
#625
syllogism, you said you'd look at other people, was I the only one you would consider? I really doubt that BloodyC0bbler is going to attract enough votes don't you think there are other alternatives that are more likely to flip scum than redFF and more likely to pick up enough votes than BloodyC0bbler?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 20:28 GMT
#631
wherebugsgo was actually flip floppy on me. He called be bad and then he said "So far your reactions haven't made you look that great.", I assume he was talking about my alignment. So he doesn't really know if I'm bad or scum I think.

wherebugsgo kitaman27 chaoser BloodyC0bbler DoctorHelvetica are missing from this thread very close to deadline which isn't all too great.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 21:00 GMT
#649
He claimed vigilante in Reponsibility Mafia! too, and he was a vigilante in that game.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 21:25 GMT
#678
I agree with Toadesstern and Jackal58 on Blazinghand.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 21:58 GMT
#738
Rofl wherebugsgo.

Are you trying to say something about my alignment based on another player's alignment?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 22:03 GMT
#753
Same here VisceraEyes.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 22 2012 22:04 GMT
#755
k
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 23 2012 15:48 GMT
#828
My first scum game? That was Surprisingly Normal Mini Mafia IV like ages ago, how the hell do you remember that?

Anyway, Jackal58, you says I sound like I do when I'm town but that's no reason to say that you would lynch syllogism over me. It would be a reason if you additionally thought that I don't sound like I do when I'm scum, or if syllogism sounds like he's scum. You also spent all Hammer Mini Mafia calling random people town for hardly any reason.

I think it's somewhat unlikely that BloodyC0bbler is scum or else the wagon would have met some serious resistance at 5 BloodyC0bbler to 7 redFF I think, and some other reasons. It didn't, instead Blazinghand decided to switch from redFF to BloodyC0bbler in a very weird post. This sudden "Wow, that's so true" is weird because the arguments that VisceraEyes presents are the exact same as have been posted in the thread a few times before. It seems like a bad excuse to change his vote. Going through his past games, I haven't seen him act like this a single time.

I think it's weird that scum didn't just pile onto a town BloodyC0bbler though, if they could hide the flip anyway.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 23 2012 17:23 GMT
#832
Dunno, 3rd party seems kind of silly in a small setup like this. Anything that hides flips is scum favored. All of that is speculation though, the setup could just hide flips on day1 or redFF could have a role that would make him survive lynch (I believe there was a "runner" role or something like that in one of the Pick Your/Their Powers). Anyway, all of this is meaningless setup speculation and we should probably do like we did in Hammer Mini Mafia, just go look for other scum as if this was day1.

Some other reasons, such as how I think he genuinely seemed angry with how he was getting pushed.

You can discard it as WIFOM, but fact is that BloodyC0bbler as town will pose a bigger threat to a scum team than redFF as town. If they have the opportunity to avoid most of the heat they would get from piling onto him then I have a hard time seeing why they wouldn't do that. But this is all setup speculation and I should probably be spending my time on something else.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 23 2012 19:11 GMT
#837
Sounds about right.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 00:19 GMT
#931
I don't think that a team of 4 can be so inactive that they forget to send in night hits. 2KP seems reasonable and maybe they can swap 1KP for a flip concealment and the other hit into veteran/medic'd/jailer'd person. That isn't too far fetched but it's speculative.

I think you're somewhat right on how scum hasn't been very active so far. I like RebirthOfLeGenD for now.

##Vote: RebirthOfLeGenD
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 00:51 GMT
#943
@VisceraEyes Don't you have better things to do that poke BloodyC0bbler? Do you think he's scum? No? Then move on.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 00:57 GMT
#947
You used to be so mannered VisceraEyes.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 01:09 GMT
#954
I'm busy and I don't see much reason for me to talk unless people want my opinion in which case I'm very open about it. I have no idea what your problem is, there are several other players who are being more meek and closed and useless and scummy than I am. I don't think BloodyC0bbler is scum because his wagon could easily have gotten rolling in the last hour of yesterday and he was very close to getting lynched and I think scum would have prevented that. How do you feel about that?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 01:18 GMT
#963
BloodyC0bbler's latest post itself is a lot more interesting than the case on him. I think his accusations on risk.nuke are good too but I'm on RebirthOfLeGenD right now.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 04:02 GMT
#980
You are kind kitaman27. Probably even too kind, I made plenty of bad reads/decisions in Responsibility Mafia! and I ended up claiming scum in XLVII after being figured out by wherebugsgo, syllogism, Palmar, possibly sandroba? and probably a bunch of other people I don't really remember.

I pushed BloodyC0bbler around the time I said that so it's not true when you say that I didn't provide an alternative. I just wanted to guys to know early on that I was most likely going to switch my vote to redFF if the alternative was a no-lynch so it wouldn't cause any unnecessary panic in case I would end up doing it.

Not getting lynched is first priority for me when the townie who was making the most sense until then suddenly suggests me for lynch, especially when I was painfully aware of how bad I looked. I also thought people would be more willing to change away from redFF than they ended up being.

I was hoping I'd get ignored (yea, you're probably going to jump on that word) until I had some more confidence in my reads. I did chime in to support syllogism who I found pretty town, who has good day1 reads and probably is one of the better players in this game, stacked as it is.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 04:07 GMT
#981
@VisceraEyes If you show that nested quote you'll see that he says "if you are town".
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 05:06 GMT
#996
wow i'm not terrible all the time

i .. i don't know what to say... i need a moment .. tearing up here

Anyway, can you tell me why BloodyC0bbler hasn't been playing like scum? I'm just curious here because I think he has but I'm pretty sure you have a better read on him than I do. Like, just some main points, doesn't have to be a huge case. Help a noob out.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 05:26 GMT
#1000
On February 24 2012 14:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 14:06 prplhz wrote:
wow i'm not terrible all the time

i .. i don't know what to say... i need a moment .. tearing up here

Anyway, can you tell me why BloodyC0bbler hasn't been playing like scum? I'm just curious here because I think he has but I'm pretty sure you have a better read on him than I do. Like, just some main points, doesn't have to be a huge case. Help a noob out.

Why don't you say why he is instead of worrying so much about what other people think. Are you afraid of something?

Other than spiders, pain, solitude, moths, long waits, cars, wild animals, vomiting, clocks, dancing, extreme cold, extreme heat, accidents, diabetes, dinner conversation, dutchmen, skin, meteors, dead things, dark, the number 8, birds, bald people, dirt, snakes, outer space, inner space, the sea, witches, drought, the pope, belly buttons, fog, slime, poison, beggars, machines, bees, infinity, stairs, constipation, bolsheviks, toads, and body odor, I'm not really afraid of anything.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 05:43 GMT
#1003
So, why didn't his wagon pick up steam? You are saying that regardless of redFF's alignment, BloodyC0bbler would be a better lynch for scum unless he was scum. Furthermore, scum could avoid a huge deal of the fallout from a BloodyC0bbler mislynch by hiding the flip as it appears that they did. Your defense of BloodyC0bbler is primarily based on meta, something that the bulk of players in this game does not have. Do you think that Blazinghand is a scum who tried to get a town BloodyC0bbler lynched? He switched from redFF to BloodyC0bbler on shitty out-of-character reasonable at a crucial moment.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 05:54 GMT
#1010
Because I'm bad. I remember you pointed this exact same thing out in Responsibility Mafia! too. While the meta is available to everybody, not everybody has it readily available to them in their memory. You don't seriously expect everybody to go read everybody else's old games when they join a game? Only a few people do that. My point is that it's a pretty valid excuse "BloodyC0bbler looks scum, and I didn't have the meta that would allow me to see that he often just looks scum as town". I'm surprised not any more scum switched to him.

While you're right that the BloodyC0bbler train picked up more steam, I don't think syllogism is scum, I think DoctorHelvetica is actually putting a ton of effort into this game, I'm not very scum, VisceraEyes looks pretty town to me. That leaves risk.nuke and Blazinghand to get the votes to 6 which BloodyC0bbler had at his wagon's highest point, also making these two scum. I've already said they both look bad and I'd be up for lynching either of them today.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 06:17 GMT
#1014
Hey DoctorHelvetica

Do you want to say something?

You're like constantly on my back.

Yesterday you promised an analysis on me and said I should be lynched today.

Instead you made analysis on 4 other players.

You're still on my back all the time for "slippy" shit that really looks like you're grasping stuff out of the thin air.

Do you want to say something?

wherebugsgo just said that there are only 4 scum which is totally true, no matter the factors making a BloodyC0bbler mislynch easier (the case on BloodyC0bbler should look alright for people who don't have meta with BloodyC0bbler, the hidden flip). Blazinghand and risk.nuke as scum, maybe you but you're putting a ton of effort in this game, looks plausible and that would be 2 scum and that's a huge deal, I kinda realize that now.

I have played like 50 games with VisceraEyes and he's always one of the players I take notice of because we joined this sub forum at the same time. Last time he was scum in Hammer Mini Mafia I took notice of it, same with XLVIII. He has a somewhat bad habit of claiming scum when he's scum and I didn't see that yet. He's talking to everybody and being hugely transparent and active and that's not only objectively townie, it's also his town meta.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 06:33 GMT
#1022
On February 24 2012 15:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 15:17 prplhz wrote:
Hey DoctorHelvetica

Do you want to say something?

You're like constantly on my back.

Yesterday you promised an analysis on me and said I should be lynched today.

Instead you made analysis on 4 other players.

You're still on my back all the time for "slippy" shit that really looks like you're grasping stuff out of the thin air.

Do you want to say something?

wherebugsgo just said that there are only 4 scum which is totally true, no matter the factors making a BloodyC0bbler mislynch easier (the case on BloodyC0bbler should look alright for people who don't have meta with BloodyC0bbler, the hidden flip). Blazinghand and risk.nuke as scum, maybe you but you're putting a ton of effort in this game, looks plausible and that would be 2 scum and that's a huge deal, I kinda realize that now.

I have played like 50 games with VisceraEyes and he's always one of the players I take notice of because we joined this sub forum at the same time. Last time he was scum in Hammer Mini Mafia I took notice of it, same with XLVIII. He has a somewhat bad habit of claiming scum when he's scum and I didn't see that yet. He's talking to everybody and being hugely transparent and active and that's not only objectively townie, it's also his town meta.


I looked through your filter and didn't find it as suspicious as I had expected based on a couple of your posts that tipped me off later in the day. I'm hardly constantly on your back, I've been pressuring you for all of what two or three posts now? Defensive and paranoid much? Scum shit right there.

I have no idea what you're saying in this paragraph. I want to understand it but I don't. Where are you getting the idea that exactly 2 scum must have voted for BC? Is that even what you're saying? It's probable that scum spread their votes out to some degree but I don't know exactly how they did it or even why and there wasn't even a flip on the first day. If you can explain clearly your point about the Day 1 votes and what information you seem to think it gives you then I'd like that. It's difficult when I can't even comprehend what you are writing.

Now you're on my back again. I'm not defensive and paranoid, you're on my back but you refuse to call me scum. You just say, in a subtle way, that everything I do is scummy and that's not cool. You felt the same way about how wherebugsgo said you were scum no matter what you said earlier today. You're trying hard to read shit into my posts that just isn't there and that's kind of annoying and you of all people should understand that.

I don't know that 2 scum must have voted for BloodyC0bbler but I think that the lynch was pretty good at the time, and I don't really think he's scum anymore. This, along with the hidden flip, leads me to believe that scum had a relatively easy opportunity to lynch BloodyC0bbler. Two scum doesn't seem far fetched, I'm almost certain of one scum and the one I'm most sure about on BloodyC0bbler's wagon is Blazinghand who had that weird post I already pointed out.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 06:43 GMT
#1025
Well, I'm glad we sorted that out.

I always thought I was alright at expressing myself but everybody keeps calling me convoluted in this game so I was probably dead wrong about that.

It can be hard to make yourself easily understood in a foreign language, please bear with me.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 17:06 GMT
#1059
I like RebirthOfLeGenD a lot more now.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 24 2012 20:58 GMT
#1108
Can we please lynch Blazinghand?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 25 2012 06:11 GMT
#1187
You gonna vote for him then kitaman27?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 25 2012 09:20 GMT
#1191
I'm not going to be around for deadline. I'd like if we could resolve this in a hurry.

Going to vote Blazinghand. I don't see any reason to believe his claim.

##Vote: Blazinghand
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 25 2012 09:26 GMT
#1193
Probably not but I see no reason why you wouldn't claim more.

If you think your claim so far is enough to convince everybody else that you're town then you shouldn't claim any more. I doubt it so I see no reason why you shouldn't claim everything you have.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 25 2012 09:32 GMT
#1197
I'd really prefer lynching you.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 27 2012 23:54 GMT
#1390
##Vote wherebugsgo

Funny thing is, I don't even need to make a case.

Burden of proof and all that shit.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 27 2012 23:59 GMT
#1394
I hope you love getting lynched too.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 00:02 GMT
#1397
Can you quickly reiterate your problems with VisceraEyes?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 00:11 GMT
#1402
On February 28 2012 09:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 09:02 prplhz wrote:
Can you quickly reiterate your problems with VisceraEyes?


1-contradicted himself on logic; calls me scum for one thing when he's done it himself at least 6 times

2-pushes responsibility for day 2 lynch onto me despite supposedly agreeing with the sentiment

3-2 day hole in activity from yesterday, says he'll post before lynch but doesn't

4-makes shit case on me based on my first post and the fact that I can be manipulative as scum

5th and most importantly: talks to people as if he already knows their alignment

Do you think these are indicative of VisceraEyes being scum?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 01:03 GMT
#1433
@wherebugsgo

I'm not really sheeping. This thread is in a bad state and I'm blaming you. You're pushing left and right for bad reasons and your contributions all seem to be pretty irrelevant. I think there's something off about your behavior.

I'm not really worried about how you're claiming alchemist, probably just means that BloodyC0bbler is going to vote you. Why did you send a potion to kitaman27? I doubt he drank any unless he's your scum buddy.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 01:28 GMT
#1449
On February 28 2012 10:05 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 10:03 prplhz wrote:
I'm not really worried about how you're claiming alchemist, probably just means that BloodyC0bbler is going to vote you.


haha best prpl post of the game

Is that good or bad?
On February 28 2012 10:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
[...]
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 10:03 prplhz wrote:
@wherebugsgo

I'm not really sheeping. This thread is in a bad state and I'm blaming you. You're pushing left and right for bad reasons and your contributions all seem to be pretty irrelevant. I think there's something off about your behavior.

I'm not really worried about how you're claiming alchemist, probably just means that BloodyC0bbler is going to vote you. Why did you send a potion to kitaman27? I doubt he drank any unless he's your scum buddy.


You're blaming me for no one posting? Good one.

It's totally my fault that you've done jack shit all game. It's totally my fault that VE disappeared for two days and then decided to shit up the thread by forging a case on me.

Yeah, totally my fault.

I'm not claiming alchemist you moron.


Partially, you're responsible for the inactivity because people post less when there's an asshole around. The bad state I was talking about was how there is virtually no scum hunting going on and none of your activity seems to be focusing on this. You have pushed left and right but never used it for anything, now you want to lynch VisceraEyes on a bad case. You're usually unflappable but this seems kind of like an OMGUS on a player I don't think looks scum at all.

I think all of those problems you have with VisceraEyes are off. Do you actually think he's scum?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 01:34 GMT
#1451
Like, I miss the wherebugsgo who poked me in like two posts in PYP:Interesting and then concluded that I was scum while I just sat there with an open mouth thinking "How the fuck did he do that?". Instead you're hiding behind a bad case on a player. The premise for that your is "Palmar said he was getting better.". That's just fucking weird. Right now, there are 4 people in this thread, you and Toadesstern, VisceraEyes, and myself, and you're calling us all scum. What the hell?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 01:37 GMT
#1452
I've been busy and that's going to be my answer regardless of alignment and regardless of whether a meteor struck my apartment or I'd been golfing with Barack Obama.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 01:44 GMT
#1461
@kitaman27 Why are you just posting a stupid list? Can't you do something instead? wherebugsgo is all "prplhz just claimed scum" and you want to lynch me, yet you're just sitting there doing nothing. I can't reconcile those two facts.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 01:50 GMT
#1469
@VisceraEyes What does your flip and wherebugsgo's alignment have to do with each other? Martyring is your scum meta. Why do you think that wherebugsgo is scum over some stupid question he asked someone, it was like 5 words there's nothing you can read into that. He wanted to know somebody's opinion and that's kinda cool I think, shows that he cares.

On February 28 2012 10:45 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 10:44 prplhz wrote:
Can't you do something instead?


You make me smile prpl.

You don't make me smile as much as you usually do. You want to lynch me, there are people around who want to lynch me, why are you not pushing me? This is relevant to my interests.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 01:55 GMT
#1477
@DoctorHelvetica This isn't another dumb ploy where you're shifting your vote from player X to player Y to pressure them and then switching back to player X because that's who you actually thought was scum all the time? Because that's pretty shabby to do mere hours before deadline. Do you actually have a scum read on anybody here or are you just going to make 50 cases and then never do anything about it?

I don't see why syllogism was fine with wherebugsgo and why he didn't see how any townie would want to lynch DoctorHelvetica. They're both quite good at this game, they're both quite active, they're both surprisingly full of shit.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 02:02 GMT
#1488
Okay, I mean, it's just so stupid of wherebugsgo to be all "lets split our votes between these three, then we will hit scum today". It's stupid for the obvious reason that Toadesstern pointed out and it's stupid because one of them isn't even red on his next list. Right now wherebugsgo seems to legitimately be pushing the idea that out of the 5 people who are active in this thread right now, the 3 that are pushing him are all scum. This is just so bad.

Does stupid and bad mean that wherebugsgo is likely to be scum? Yea. He's a smart guy, I have no fucking clue why he's doing this.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 02:05 GMT
#1492
Meh. This sucks.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 02:14 GMT
#1497
How about we lynch Tyrran?

What do you guys think about that?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 02:17 GMT
#1500
Yes, VisceraEyes is fucking out of his mind. That doesn't really mean anything though. The premise of your case is "Palmar said he was getting better" and that's not good enough. Find somebody else wherebugsgo or you should really be lynched. You usually push people because they're scum, not because they said some stupid shit.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 02:28 GMT
#1509
Nah, lets lynch Tyrran.

Does anybody have any evidence pointing at Tyrran being town?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 02:59 GMT
#1518
Meh.

I don't really want to lynch into VisceraEyes/wherebugsgo because they're both reasonably active but if I have to then I'll lynch wherebugsgo. I think there's something off about him. Just his "All the three people accusing me of being scum in this thread are scum.". That's fucking insane.

I'd much rather lynch into those people who are abusing the activity requirements. I mean, write a fucking post. I don't agree at all with DoctorHelvetica's "lets leave low-activity people for later". Everybody here has a page or two of posts and that should be enough that we can get a read on them. I think we could lynch chaoser and there seems to be consensus about that among all the people present right now. Here's his filter. He hasn't said a thing for two days now and he doesn't seem to care much about the game with the "When's deadline?" and seems to be faking activity with "I'll do votecounts myself.". He was only reasonably active during day1 but since then he doesn't seem to care about the game (that's gone way off track).
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 03:02 GMT
#1521
Also, sorry to kita for calling his list stupid when he spent 2 hours on it. That was way uncalled for.

Well, not if you're scum.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 03:03 GMT
#1522
On February 28 2012 12:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 11:59 prplhz wrote:
Meh.

I don't really want to lynch into VisceraEyes/wherebugsgo because they're both reasonably active but if I have to then I'll lynch wherebugsgo. I think there's something off about him. Just his "All the three people accusing me of being scum in this thread are scum.". That's fucking insane.

I'd much rather lynch into those people who are abusing the activity requirements. I mean, write a fucking post. I don't agree at all with DoctorHelvetica's "lets leave low-activity people for later". Everybody here has a page or two of posts and that should be enough that we can get a read on them. I think we could lynch chaoser and there seems to be consensus about that among all the people present right now. Here's his filter. He hasn't said a thing for two days now and he doesn't seem to care much about the game with the "When's deadline?" and seems to be faking activity with "I'll do votecounts myself.". He was only reasonably active during day1 but since then he doesn't seem to care about the game (that's gone way off track).


so there's 3 people trying to lynch me?

AFAIK there's only 2, unless you know something that I don't.


Which of Toadesstern, VisceraEyes and prplhz isn't people?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 03:56 GMT
#1549
On February 28 2012 12:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
this has reached such astronomically high levels of stupid that i might have a heart attack

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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 07:44 GMT
#1588
@BloodyC0bbler It looks to me like you just come in here and then paraphrase the last pages of posts and complains. The "Burden of proof." thing I said was something wherebugsgo said earlier, I was just using it against him for the lulz. If you read the thread you will notice that I don't actually want to lynch wherebugsgo today, I don't think he's strong enough scum read and then he's active which I very much appreciate.

I'd lynch you though.

I think that if anybody thinks about it, it would be very weird if there were multiple scum among Toadesstern/VisceraEyes/prplhz. I doubt there's even one right now. VisceraEyes looks his usual town except for the inactivity but he was drunk and inactive elsewhere on these forums too so I don't doubt that claim. Toadesstern looks the scummiest but I just think that a scum QuickTopic would have stopped him when he was starting to argue with terms he didn't even understand. There was no reason for him to go on at that point.

@wherebugsgo So you're a mason. I have no idea why you are claiming but alright.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 08:38 GMT
#1590
You just said you speculated on a role like that, not that you weren't a mason. Meh, it doesn't matter, I made it quite clear before your claim that I didn't really want to lynch you and your claim changed nothing.

Can we please lynch chaoser?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 09:53 GMT
#1593
Because I am having a hard time convincing myself that any of them are scum and I'd much rather lynch into more inactive people. No one here has less than a page worth of posts and that should be enough to get a decent read.

Guess the chaoser lynch is a no-go.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 10:08 GMT
#1595
Okay.

If I'm unsure I'd rather lynch into more inactive people than into active people. We're not really lynching into the dark either because everybody has a page worth of posts.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 13:48 GMT
#1613
I sensed a disturbance in the force as if the very fabric of the universe was shivering in agony.

Hi Khaoser!
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 14:56 GMT
#1626
I'm going to cut in here.

Why are we only looking for 3 scum?

Who would bus who day1 and appear on who's voting list?

What?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 15:09 GMT
#1628
So now you are assuming out of the blue that redFF was scum and then you are saying that wherebugsgo is scum becaused he bussed him.

I am not insane and polish and this is very hard for me to understand.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 15:10 GMT
#1629
If this was a bus then why the fuck did scum hide redFF's flip?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 15:42 GMT
#1633
You are just assuming stuff about one shot abilities. We don't know anything about the janitor besides that fact he was scum.

It makes sense for scum to hide flips in contested lynches and the day1 lynch was very contested. Town was very polarized and there were last minute vote switches. They could spin the lynch whichever way they wanted, they could hope that town would disintegrate in meaningless discussion about the flip instead of talking about the next lynch.

You can't just say that he was scum because the flip was hidden, because that was done by scum. You need to look at the things he wrote and how he wrote it.

And you can't just assume that wherebugsgo was the only one on that lynch who was asshole enough to be voting for redFF. Here are the votes for redFF at the lynch:

RebirthOfLeGenD
Kitaman27
Wherebugsgo
chaoser
BloodyC0bbler
layabout
Jitsu
DoctorHelvetica

Point out one of these who couldn't bring himself to soft-bus redFF. redFF pretty much quit after the first part of day1 and people could have asked in the QuickTopic if they were in doubt. Meh, you are being very unreasonable.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 15:43 GMT
#1635
@Cwave Care to elaborate?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 16:55 GMT
#1639
Okay lets lynch god damn Tyrran.

His filter shows him not putting any effort into the game at all. Compare to Steamship Liquidia where he actually tries to do anything. Also, his filter looks like he's just skirting by, he doesn't attempt to have any influence on the game at all.

This post he unvotes Blazinghand because of a really bad unsubstantiated reasonable and then votes RebirthOfLeGenD just to pressure him. He shows that he has reason to believe that Toadesstern is scum but instead he opts to just pressure vote RebirthOfLeGenD in the most half assed way.

After this he doesn't stop the pressure on RebirthOfLeGenD. Instead he starts insisting that RebirthOfLeGenD is scum but this doesn't correlate with how he is pushing him. He doesn't write cases or ask people for anything. He actually stops even trying to appear to be actively contributing after he apparently figures out that RebirthOfLeGenD is scum and that town is wrong and is being lead astray.

He's also French.

Yeah.

But seriously, this guy is pretty scum. He's not trying to get noticed or step on anybody's toes, always picking easy targets while trying to stay out of any troubles at all, and so far he's only gotten by because people are giving him a lot of leash because he was bad in another game. What I'm seeing here isn't just bad, it's not giving a shit about town.

##Vote Tyrran



@Kurumi You suck.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 17:06 GMT
#1641
Well, you have 5 hours.

How would you like a Tyrran lynch?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 17:11 GMT
#1643
I don't think Dirkzor is doing the same stuff at all. Reading his filter and having played with him in Hammer Mini Mafia, I think his posting looks exactly the same and he has only been pushing town agendas this game. I have no reason to think that Dirkzor is scum.

What is your problem with lynching Tyrran?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 17:21 GMT
#1646
He's looking town and he's been active and consistent in his contributions and not flaking out at any point. I didn't see anything scummy he's done this game when I read his filter. It's pretty hard to point him pushing the lynch of a scum, but he's called plenty of people out and he's been willing to reconsider his opinions and his posting looks like he's actually trying to pour effort and thought into this game.

I don't see any reason to lynch Dirkzor.

I see good reason to lynch Tyrran.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 17:41 GMT
#1651
On February 29 2012 02:28 Jitsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 29 2012 02:21 prplhz wrote:
He's looking town and he's been active and consistent in his contributions and not flaking out at any point. I didn't see anything scummy he's done this game when I read his filter. It's pretty hard to point him pushing the lynch of a scum, but he's called plenty of people out and he's been willing to reconsider his opinions and his posting looks like he's actually trying to pour effort and thought into this game.

I don't see any reason to lynch Dirkzor.

I see good reason to lynch Tyrran.


What?

He's active and consistent...with a total of three pages of filter to sift through. I understand that town discussion has stalled, but active? There were points where I forgot he was in this game.

Also, he's called plenty of people out? I just skimmed through it again, and saw him call out Blazinghand and DrH, and very soft-aggression to chaoser.

So what? He's done more than a bunch of other players, Tyrran included.

Tyrran has 1 page of filter. He has called 0 people out and only softpushed RebirthOfLeGenD even though it he appears to be very confident that RebirthOfLeGenD is scum. But that's not really important, he could just be inactive because it's hard to be French or something. Maybe his dog died (sorry if he/she did!). What's important is how he seems fine just skirting by not getting noticed. Most of what he's talking about is just paraphrasing what other people said so he's not trying to inject anything into this game. When he finally has an opinion he doesn't give a shit about pushing it.

I don't really see "forgetting the game" as a scum move. Scum, especially newer players, are usually more careful before saying stuff like that because it's quite clear that other people will want to lynch them for it.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 17:49 GMT
#1653
@VisceraEyes What the fuck he didn't even claim a role. He just said that somebody masoned him with syllogism and from his paraphrasing I'm inclined to believe that. But what exactly does any of this say about his alignment?

Which of the three candidates would you prefer?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 18:14 GMT
#1655
Meh.

Stop thinking about how scary players potentially could be if they were scum. You lynch into scummy people not into people you are afraid of. Fear of for scummy bastards, right?

Right?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 19:05 GMT
#1675
Okay, I don't want to lynch into actives because there are a lot of people who are scummy and who don't seem to care too much about this game.

BloodyC0bbler shows up once in a while to parrot some other people and it doesn't look like he actually follows the thread.
RebirthOfLeGenD got pissed off and apparently ragequit.
Tyrran didn't say anything for two days and his filter is 1 page long and he didn't push even though he looks very confident in his read.

Of these, I'd much rather lynch Tyrran.

DoctorHelvetica, I don't understand half of what he's saying at all. I wanted to push him earlier but he has been very active and syllogism didn't seem to think it was a good idea and I though syllogism was making tons of sense and trusted him on that. DoctorHelvetica is shooting everything down left and right while mass producing cases. Ultimately he seems like he doesn't actually have an opinion and he doesn't really push anybody. And how the hell is Tyrran's filter very pro town? It's 1 page of wishy washy no-brain being-overly-confident-in-read-without-pushing-it afk-for-2-days nothing. He might as well have written it in french. I have no idea what you thought was pro town in there.

We're 5 hours before lynch and I still haven't a clue who DoctorHelvetica actually wants to lynch. He's arguing left and right while we're rapidly approaching deadline and he doesn't seem to mind at all. He doesn't want to rally people and he doesn't want people to rally. I have absolutely no idea what he's trying.

Right now my top2 scum reads are Tyrran and DoctorHelvetica and of these I'd rather lynch Tyrran because DoctorHelvetica is at least talking.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 19:20 GMT
#1678
I'm quite aware of that.

That's quite a contribution.

Didn't you say you were going to read the thread or something? What did you find out?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 19:22 GMT
#1679
On February 29 2012 04:19 Kurumi wrote:
This game is dominated by scum deciding which lynch and when. Sad.

What the fuck is this?

Things Kurumi has done since he joined this game:

Say random shit.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 19:36 GMT
#1687
Like right now.

You just mentioned 4 names you wanted to lynch, yet you are not actively encouraging people into voting for any of them specifically. It doesn't seem like you really care about who gets lynched. If you are town and half as smart as you seem to want to look in this thread you should know that lists where no names stick out will just make it easy for scum to deflect lynches onto somebody else on that list. It's like you only think when you need to shoot somebody else down or fit your own secret agenda.

What does it matter that Tyrran had a town read on Blazinghand? Isn't that just weird since EVERYBODY else in this game had a scum read on him? Did he know something we didn't? These seem like things you should really be saying (not me because I don't think like that but so far in the thread you've been annoying like that). He kept voting for RebirthOfLeGenD and he seemed very confident that he was scum, but he just posted a small paragraph and a vote while seeming pretty alright with how Blazinghand ended up getting lynched.

How would you like it if I just wrote a small paragraph voting Toadesstern or whoever and then left the thread while somehow your derps ended up voting Dirkzor? You'd be all over me.

I don't like BloodyC0bbler right now but I don't think he's best lynch. He has contributed original thoughts on a bunch of people and he just doesn't strike me as scum. Yea, he doesn't strike me as scum. Does he strike you as scum? Or are you only mentioning him in an attempt to shoot me down while you don't actually have anything else to contribute?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 20:00 GMT
#1704
I'm not saying that, I'm saying that's the kind of weird shit DoctorHelvetica keeps pointing out to shoot anything down.

I specifically say that I don't think that and that's it's not really indicative of alignment to me. He could be pushing for all sorts of reasons, what's important is that he doesn't seem to give a shit about whatever he's pushing even though he seems very confident that he's actually right. His Blazinghand push was equally lackluster.

What?

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm frustrated as fuck



I don't like Tyrran, wherebugsgo or DoctorHelvetica and would like to lynch into that. Tyrran first.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 20:16 GMT
#1716
@Kurumi

18 players
4 scum
14 townies

with mislynches every day it would take until day6 before town is in mylo if scum only has 1kp
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 20:26 GMT
#1732
I don't have more time for this game today.

My reads are:

Scummy: Tyrran, DoctorHelvetica, wherebugsgo

Town: kitaman27, Dirkzor, probably Kurumi

Null: everybody else


I haven't been lynched since Steamship Liquidia. Meh, I was on a good streak.

Also, I'm a terrible lynch etc.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 28 2012 20:48 GMT
#1757
lynch us all
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 13 2012 06:55 GMT
#2667
wow well played viscera
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