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@risk.nuke Who do you want to smite and why? What are these pro-scum agendas that redFF is pushing? Why are you not voting for him when you want to lynch him? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler isn't taking syllogism's accusations seriously (for some reason, nobody is even though syllogism is pretty good at mafia). There are more in the accusations than just "BloodyC0bbler doesn't have a read 5 hours in", he is saying that your mindset doesn't seem focused on finding scum. I totally agree with this. He specifically quotes this: On February 21 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote: [...] I am currently more intrigued at the people who have let policy discussion run so damn rampant for even this short a duration of a game who (in my mind) should know better. You see that the discussion is bad, you say that people should try to find whoever is responsible for this, but you never do this. You are the one guilty of strawman arguing when you insinuate that syllogism's accusation was just based around how you didn't have any reads 5 hours into the game. Additionally there's plenty of bad stuff in your filter. This post where you complain about what's being discussed without providing anything of an alternative. You were just as guilty in letting the initial discussion get out of hand as those people whose existence you alluded to but never tried to find. I understand that you might not like how redFF was being a douche towards Ace but your comments on that doesn't count as a contribution. You didn't post a single read this entire game, and I don't care if anything is 5 hours into the game or whatever, reads are what push this game foward, AMIRITE? So, BloodyC0bbler, is redFF scum or is he just best lynch because of the situation he's gotten himself in? Do you have other scum reads? I'll vote redFF to avoid no lynch. I kinda assume that this is an extended majority lynch where we can end up in a no lynch sitaution, but the OP doesn't really say anything about that. But like, redFF probably isn't scum, come on. There's also plenty good in having him around since scum can't role block anybody else no matter redFF's alignment. The lynch today comes down to "We very likely have to lynch redFF at some point, should it be today or do we have something better?". Right now, I think it's too early to say. | ||
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Anyway, don't you think that this redFF lynch is an easy way out for scum? Right now, it's going to be very hard to argue against a redFF lynch and I don't think he's scum because he's just been too much out there. All of his "misrepresentation" looks like he was just a bit overburdened by the load he put on himself, and I don't really think they look overly malicious. When was the last time you saw a scum go out during the first hours of day1 and misrepresent somebody's opinions to legitimately push their lynch? Everybody in this game can right now just jump on redFF with 20 hours left in the day and that would kinda be ruinous if redFF isn't scum. The only thing that looks really weird to me was his claim but he did announce in the thread that he would claim soon if people started piling onto him. Then you started pushing his lynch and he claimed and that makes it kinda expected. Also, his extra information (busdriver/redirector conjecturing) seems like too much hassle for redFF if he was really scum. If redFF is your strongest scum read, who's your second strongest scum read? | ||
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So maybe you could cut down on them. Also, my neck is fucking killing me so I'm probably a bit cranky right now. @RebirthOfLeGenD So, redFF or BloodyC0bbler, who's it gonna be? | ||
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@wherebugsgo My point is that, you knew before you joined this game that I'm stupid and you probably knew a lot of other people are stupid and that it's very unlikely that we've suddenly improved rapidly. You knew this unless you are stupid. Were you stupid? This is the situation you have put yourself in. Now you're throwing ad hominems around (yes, saying that player Y is more likely to be wrong because of the mere fact that player X agrees with him is an ad hominem on player X) and that's just making people think you're an asshole, clouding their judgement in emotions, which you should expect it to do. You know this unless you are stupid. Are you stupid? I like Jackal58 more right now just because he said he'd shoot you to make this game more enjoyable, that doesn't really make sense but that's how it is. This is the situation you've put yourself in, you're actively not making the best of it and you can't explain that away. My roleblocker point was the same that kitaman27 just made, redFF's existence ties up a roleblocker if they have one. If redFF is scum and they roleblock somebody else they force redFF to make his findings public which would give us more info to base a lynch on, which is good. If redFF is town then we get some hopefully juicy information, which is good. | ||
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Maybe that sounded wrong, I support lynches over no lynched as long as it not anybody who isn't just about confirmed town. By support lynches, I don't mean "I will support any lynch from the first vote until the guy hangs, just because he's not confirmed town", but this should be rather obvious from my behavior so far so I don't really get what you're trying to do. | ||
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I don't have a lot of time, try read the game carefully, make a ton of notes, see that you're pushing me and I say that I'm here. Would it be more townie of me not to say that I'm here when I'm about to get lynched or what are you getting at? I don't think that redFF is scum because his claim timing and his lack of activity was announced in the thread beforehand, his activity and putting-himself-outthere seems very townie. The wagon is also rolling too easy. It was stupid of me to say that we'd have to lynch him at some point, you have pointed out that we don't and that's a pretty simple conclusion and I support that. I think BloodyC0bbler is more scummy, but I think there might be better targets today that I'm more comfortable with. This is like Responsibility Mafia! where BloodyC0bbler was just gone, but he has been scummy so far. | ||
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You should think this over syllogism because you're dead wrong and I think you have been right in just about everything else so far. I am trying my best this game, I am being active when you need me to be and I'm not being disruptive at all. There are way better targets around for a last-minute-switch. | ||
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On December 22 2011 13:49 wherebugsgo wrote: [...] You have a ton of notes? Really? Mind sharing some of them with us? On December 22 2011 13:53 prplhz wrote: Yes. I'm not posting my notes. | ||
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You can dismiss this as "trying to get the bandwagon rolling on somebody else" as much as you want. | ||
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On February 23 2012 03:27 Toadesstern wrote: Names would be nice. Who are those people who are supposed to be way better targets? Why are you mentioning that but I have to ask you about this? Why are you not just trying to help right now and tell us what you think in the first place? Because I didn't want to post as long as I wasn't in danger of getting lynched and as long as I wasn't fully up date with my notes and with reading filters. | ||
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I always think it's weird with people reading up on thread and then being all like "Yea, I have a comment on something that happened 10 pages ago." when that's already been discussed over the next 10 pages. You are grasping at straws. It is true that I have been pretty useless so far but I have acted with town's best interests in mind all the time, and I am very open to giving reads right now (because I'm up for lynch and I don't want to get lynched, it's better for me to say something I might not have said if I was really up to date than it is to get lynched). | ||
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On February 23 2012 03:33 syllogism wrote: That sounds almost too bad to be scum. You say you are trying your best, try to be active when "i need you (????)" and you've been making tons of notes. Yet despite all this, you have made no effort at all to stop a lynch of someone you consider town from happening. You never really even said who you would like to be lynched instead. What the fuck are you talking about. I complained about the redFF lynch and pushed the BloodyC0bbler lynch. Right now I am trying to stop the lynch of me and pushing the Blazinghand lynch. It may not be the best around but it's a ton better than me. You are trying to pull arguments out of the thin air with the "dissatisfied getting lynched day1" argument and the timing-argument. I agree with the other things you've said, I haven't been performing as I ideally wanted to be and as people would probably expect me to be. | ||
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