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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
February 25 2012 22:26 GMT
#1261
So what about RoL, Toad?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 25 2012 22:26 GMT
#1262
I didn't attack you all day

have you never been pressured before/
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 25 2012 22:27 GMT
#1263
On February 26 2012 07:26 syllogism wrote:
So what about RoL, Toad?

RoL is his gf
RIP Aaliyah
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 25 2012 22:28 GMT
#1264
I'm going to assume a few things now.
redFF is dead.
Scumabillity hid redFF's flip. (Possibly at the cost of kp)
This means that redFF was likely town if bc is town. My reasoning for believing this is because if redff was scum and bc was town they could had easily changed the lynch. Which means either redFF was town or he got bussed. And if he were bussed it would be pretty stupid to hide the flip.

Also Blazinghand misunderstood either his abillity or the word passive when he described it. I refuse to believe the hosts are such bastards as to show incorrect votecounts.

Also people putting me on a vig-list. If you would give me some reasoning I can stomp alternativly deem legit it will really help me not tunnel you for the rest of the game. Because I think vigging me is really super stupid.

Toad, you don't know the meaning of lurking (see katrina in Arkham) and you have created your own meaning for what playing anti-town is.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
February 25 2012 22:30 GMT
#1265
At least we have a flip today.

RoL should be ou next target. Scum managed to deflect his lynch into a blue, lets not let them do it again.
Risk.nuke is actively lurking, he is a pretty good vig target.
Toad is scum.

Prplhz is useless
Chaoser is just bad town. Dont lynch/shoot him.

Now, back to reading.
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 25 2012 22:32 GMT
#1266
I have no idea. I don't think I ever played with him before and all we got about him is lurking and I'd have to completly trust you on that one. And no I'm not willing to read yet another game just to get a better read on a lurker while a bunch of people in here don't even feel obligated to get in here and post at least once per day while playing something else.

I was trusting you the beginning of d2 because you looked pretty townish and yeah I'll admit I was sheeping you guys because everyone said that's nothing like he ever does as town because there were so many vets saying that it looks weird. You guys could be right there, I have no idea I'll leave that guy out for now and ignore him trying to get some reads on people I actually played with before.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 25 2012 22:36 GMT
#1267
On February 26 2012 07:28 risk.nuke wrote:
Toad, you don't know the meaning of lurking (see katrina in Arkham) and you have created your own meaning for what playing anti-town is.


As a townie it's your goal to make sure everyone sees that you are in fact a townie. That's the one most important thing about townies.
You are not willing to help us figure out what alignment you have. Yes that IS playing anti-town.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 25 2012 22:46 GMT
#1268
oh and btw:
On February 25 2012 12:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 12:08 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 25 2012 12:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 25 2012 11:56 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 25 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
I feel you Toad; I said the exact same thing about VE earlier.

Generally though if someone is exhibiting both tells I just ignore them until I'm forced to deal with them. BH is nothing but scum and RoL is nothing but lurk so it's easy killings either way.


the sad part here is that I'm not getting out here alive no matter what's going to happen, because it's the very same situation we had in L d1 with Palmar.

If BH flips town and I keep my vote off him everyone is going to rant about me "how does that noob have a better read than a fantastillion of our best vets?"
If BH flips mafa and I keep my vote off him everyone is going to rant about me because I was "defending" him.
If BH flips town and I vote him everyone is going to rant about me "how does that noob have a better read than a fantastillion of our best vets?"
If BH flips mafia and I vote vote him everyone is going to rant about how I only voteswitched after I had to.

Sad story, isn't it?

However, I'm going to rethink this whole thing when I wake up tomorrow. Should be plenty of time. For now I'm sticking with RoL.

You seem to care an awful lot about how town perceives you

yeah because believe or not, I don't want to be lynched no matter if I rolled mafia or town. Because in both scenarios being lynched is not helping my team.
So what you're telling me is that you successfully figured out I'm not a VI? But that's of course wifom. I could totally be a VI trying to look pro-town to try and look like I don't want to be lynched. That would be so ingenious. Just imagine the faces of the people: "We're totally lynching that pro-town playing guy ololol" and the moment I flip VI they're all like W T F.
+ Show Spoiler +
Just for clarification: Yes parts of this posts were sarcasm and are not meant to be taken seriously
+ Show Spoiler +
it's the second part


if you think BH is scum then vote for him

if you're town you're the last person who would get lynched if he flipped town, the fact that you're worried enough about town perspective on your own guilt to vote based on that openly is highly suspicious


told you there's going to be some morons who want to get me lynched for that, funny you said
if you're town you're the last person who would get lynched if he flipped town,

and yet you're telling people that I'm looking incredible bad. Tyrran is probably just bad himself but what about you?

Anyways I'm going to play some Zelda for now, need some de-stressing or I'll pull a wbg on you guys.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 25 2012 23:45 GMT
#1269
I don't understand what you are saying. I have never said you are more suspicious based on the fact that BH flipped town. I said you were suspicious by being so aware of it or concerned about it. Your play is completely defensive and seems to me based around how town views you rather than how you look for scum.
RIP Aaliyah
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2012 00:11 GMT
#1270
On February 26 2012 08:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I don't understand what you are saying. I have never said you are more suspicious based on the fact that BH flipped town. I said you were suspicious by being so aware of it or concerned about it. Your play is completely defensive and seems to me based around how town views you rather than how you look for scum.


Your 1st point:
I am sorry I thought the guy might flip town and posted that. Next time I pick something like that up I'm just going to ignore it, lynch the guy although I think he has a decent chance of flipping green (or in this case blue) and make sure noone talks about alternatives. Is that what you want from me to do / the reason you think I am scummy? Really?
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes that was sarcasm, again. I'm not going to do that.


On to your 2nd point:
That's a straight up lie. My play is not defensive. Yes I tried to start this game a little slower not fosing everyone I had a scumread early on but instead waited to see how these things are developing when left unmentioned. However I called out several people. In fact I just gave a list of people who are imo highly suspicious right now either because of what they did earlier or because of the flip or because of both. How is that not looking for scum? And yeah I already mentioned I am paying attention to how everyone here views me because again, looking town and being open about your thoughts is the most important thing townies have to do because if you end up being lynched for lurking that's entirely your fault. Something people like risk.nuke apparently haven't understood and also something you (and Tyrran) call me suspicious for.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 26 2012 00:14 GMT
#1271
Why did you vote for BH if you thought he had a decent chance instead of people you thought were scum like RN or Chaoser. It's classic bet hedging. There is absolutely nothing wrong with acknowledging that he might flip town, I did that too. So did other people. You talking about alternatives also isn't scummy and I never said it was. Now you're defending yourself against shit I'm not saying and never said, the implicit guilt is just oozing out.
RIP Aaliyah
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2012 00:27 GMT
#1272
On February 26 2012 09:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why did you vote for BH if you thought he had a decent chance instead of people you thought were scum like RN or Chaoser. It's classic bet hedging. There is absolutely nothing wrong with acknowledging that he might flip town, I did that too. So did other people. You talking about alternatives also isn't scummy and I never said it was. Now you're defending yourself against shit I'm not saying and never said, the implicit guilt is just oozing out.


let's see this again:
On February 26 2012 08:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I said you were suspicious by being so aware of it or concerned about it. .

So what do you mean by "being so concerned about it" if it's not me talking about about how I think the guy might end up being a confused townie? Because if I interpreted that one wrong my bad, but I can't think of another meaning on that part.

And I voted BH because I thought he's still a coinflip and is most like not going to be easier to read with this huge wagon we had on him while the other coinflips I got are all some people I think I'm capable to read better in near future.
There was noone in this thread, I pointet out a couple of guys roughly an hour before the deadline and also before that and it wasn't enough time to get someone else lynched. I would have loved to get risk lynched but it just wasn't possible given that noone's actually here.
Also another last minute voteswitch would have been pretty chaotic for town again, like the one we did on d1 with BC and got back to redFF after people like BH and risk started posting about BC. Town needed some stability and a (imo) coinflip was still a good enough option for that one.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 26 2012 01:07 GMT
#1273
We should 100% kill RoL if he is alive by morning.

He's continually promised more and his promise of more was just a shitty case on Dr. H.

Right now I'm fairly tired of reading and/or responding to retarded posts that I pretty much know are being made by townies, since it's just a waste of time. So from now on I'm just going to ignore that stuff and focus on things I find scummy.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2012 01:25 GMT
#1274
On February 26 2012 10:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
We should 100% kill RoL if he is alive by morning.

He's continually promised more and his promise of more was just a shitty case on Dr. H.

Right now I'm fairly tired of reading and/or responding to retarded posts that I pretty much know are being made by townies, since it's just a waste of time. So from now on I'm just going to ignore that stuff and focus on things I find scummy.


are you at least telling me if that's me, DocH or Tyrran you're referring to if you're not willing to talk about it?

What are you suggesting we do with people like Risk and Chaoser? Clearly they have no interest in proving that they're town.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 26 2012 01:31 GMT
#1275
On February 26 2012 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
We should 100% kill RoL if he is alive by morning.

He's continually promised more and his promise of more was just a shitty case on Dr. H.

Right now I'm fairly tired of reading and/or responding to retarded posts that I pretty much know are being made by townies, since it's just a waste of time. So from now on I'm just going to ignore that stuff and focus on things I find scummy.


are you at least telling me if that's me, DocH or Tyrran you're referring to if you're not willing to talk about it?

What are you suggesting we do with people like Risk and Chaoser? Clearly they have no interest in proving that they're town.


half of your posts are not worth responding to, ones like this are okay.

I'm fine with killing chaoser, but risk.nuke I'm not so sure about because he's done some weird things that I don't think a scum would do. I think he's one of the dumber townies.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2012 01:38 GMT
#1276
On February 26 2012 10:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
We should 100% kill RoL if he is alive by morning.

He's continually promised more and his promise of more was just a shitty case on Dr. H.

Right now I'm fairly tired of reading and/or responding to retarded posts that I pretty much know are being made by townies, since it's just a waste of time. So from now on I'm just going to ignore that stuff and focus on things I find scummy.


are you at least telling me if that's me, DocH or Tyrran you're referring to if you're not willing to talk about it?

What are you suggesting we do with people like Risk and Chaoser? Clearly they have no interest in proving that they're town.


half of your posts are not worth responding to, ones like this are okay.

I'm fine with killing chaoser, but risk.nuke I'm not so sure about because he's done some weird things that I don't think a scum would do. I think he's one of the dumber townies.

Why are you okay with killing chaoser but not risk?
Chaoser said he was busy and will start posting soon (tm) while risk is doing that on purpose.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 26 2012 01:40 GMT
#1277
On February 26 2012 10:38 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
We should 100% kill RoL if he is alive by morning.

He's continually promised more and his promise of more was just a shitty case on Dr. H.

Right now I'm fairly tired of reading and/or responding to retarded posts that I pretty much know are being made by townies, since it's just a waste of time. So from now on I'm just going to ignore that stuff and focus on things I find scummy.


are you at least telling me if that's me, DocH or Tyrran you're referring to if you're not willing to talk about it?

What are you suggesting we do with people like Risk and Chaoser? Clearly they have no interest in proving that they're town.


half of your posts are not worth responding to, ones like this are okay.

I'm fine with killing chaoser, but risk.nuke I'm not so sure about because he's done some weird things that I don't think a scum would do. I think he's one of the dumber townies.

Why are you okay with killing chaoser but not risk?
Chaoser said he was busy and will start posting soon (tm) while risk is doing that on purpose.


replace "chaoser" with RoL and tell me why we shouldn't kill him.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 26 2012 01:43 GMT
#1278
On February 26 2012 10:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
We should 100% kill RoL if he is alive by morning.

He's continually promised more and his promise of more was just a shitty case on Dr. H.

Right now I'm fairly tired of reading and/or responding to retarded posts that I pretty much know are being made by townies, since it's just a waste of time. So from now on I'm just going to ignore that stuff and focus on things I find scummy.


are you at least telling me if that's me, DocH or Tyrran you're referring to if you're not willing to talk about it?

What are you suggesting we do with people like Risk and Chaoser? Clearly they have no interest in proving that they're town.


half of your posts are not worth responding to, ones like this are okay.

I'm fine with killing chaoser, but risk.nuke I'm not so sure about because he's done some weird things that I don't think a scum would do. I think he's one of the dumber townies.

Why are you okay with killing chaoser but not risk?
Chaoser said he was busy and will start posting soon (tm) while risk is doing that on purpose.


replace "chaoser" with RoL and tell me why we shouldn't kill him.


Never said we should ignore him. I'm justs not mentioning him because I never played with him and therefore don't know what he's usually playing like.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
February 26 2012 01:48 GMT
#1279
On February 26 2012 10:43 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
We should 100% kill RoL if he is alive by morning.

He's continually promised more and his promise of more was just a shitty case on Dr. H.

Right now I'm fairly tired of reading and/or responding to retarded posts that I pretty much know are being made by townies, since it's just a waste of time. So from now on I'm just going to ignore that stuff and focus on things I find scummy.


are you at least telling me if that's me, DocH or Tyrran you're referring to if you're not willing to talk about it?

What are you suggesting we do with people like Risk and Chaoser? Clearly they have no interest in proving that they're town.


half of your posts are not worth responding to, ones like this are okay.

I'm fine with killing chaoser, but risk.nuke I'm not so sure about because he's done some weird things that I don't think a scum would do. I think he's one of the dumber townies.

Why are you okay with killing chaoser but not risk?
Chaoser said he was busy and will start posting soon (tm) while risk is doing that on purpose.


replace "chaoser" with RoL and tell me why we shouldn't kill him.


Never said we should ignore him. I'm justs not mentioning him because I never played with him and therefore don't know what he's usually playing like.


anyway here's what I want you to do:

read risk's filter, and tell me what you find in there that shows you that he's scum.

I'm not trying to influence you here; I just want to see your thought process.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 26 2012 01:54 GMT
#1280
On February 26 2012 10:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:25 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
We should 100% kill RoL if he is alive by morning.

He's continually promised more and his promise of more was just a shitty case on Dr. H.

Right now I'm fairly tired of reading and/or responding to retarded posts that I pretty much know are being made by townies, since it's just a waste of time. So from now on I'm just going to ignore that stuff and focus on things I find scummy.


are you at least telling me if that's me, DocH or Tyrran you're referring to if you're not willing to talk about it?

What are you suggesting we do with people like Risk and Chaoser? Clearly they have no interest in proving that they're town.


half of your posts are not worth responding to, ones like this are okay.

I'm fine with killing chaoser, but risk.nuke I'm not so sure about because he's done some weird things that I don't think a scum would do. I think he's one of the dumber townies.

Why are you okay with killing chaoser but not risk?
Chaoser said he was busy and will start posting soon (tm) while risk is doing that on purpose.


replace "chaoser" with RoL and tell me why we shouldn't kill him.


when RoL actually does show up he posts like scum, chaoser is inconclusively inactive

I'm mostly concerned by what RoL isn't saying, things he isn't noticing that he usually jumps all over people for but he just harps on about Red's claim and is OMGUSing hard
RIP Aaliyah
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