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Wont be back in my home state until monday, game will probably begin before then. | ||
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Kurumi, you soft-defend Schworz twice in a single post, also indicate that vigi's should avoid him and the rest of your post is basic setup waffle. I don't remember you being this wishy-washy in TL50 either, with statements like 'I find it funny that...' and 'I just ponder', you sure come off that way now. What are you playing at? Tobberoth, you say you're considering a vote on Kenpachi, yet you want to wait until 'discussion comes up later in the day'. This comes off as quite passive and almost like you're waiting for a bandwagon to pickup speed before you seal the deal. Why not just vote him now if you find him suspicious, as you claim, then move it later as more information presents itself? Ico, policy lynches are retarded... just no. Jaybrundage, I know you haven't even posted yet, but we've never been the same team. Don't see why this game would be any different. Have my vote! ##Vote: jaybrundage | ||
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On February 06 2012 22:01 ico wrote: And we have another herp derp poster. You are making your own case. Only scum knows whether someone is on their team by now. So you are either scum or stupid townie. In each case you are a threat to town. You sir, are already posting garbage, that's 2 for 2. I clearly have no idea what team he is on, nor was my vote serious in any capacity. We here to lynch scum, not 'stupid' townies. | ||
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On February 06 2012 22:34 ico wrote: It is way to early in day 1 to go for a random vote. The person Adam votes for has not even posted in the thread yet. I'd not care so much about it if it was close to the posting and voting deadline, which makes a random vote excusable, but still not desired. Please note I have not put my vote on him yet, about ten people haven't even posted and day 1 still lasts for quite a while. But I am seriously irritated by the fact that actions like day1 townclaim or early day 1 random votes are done at all and get defended by other posters. Day 1 town claims should be considered null. They're complete fluff and should have zero impact on your decision to vote someone. We are in the 'RVS' or Random Voting Stage. Its perfectly acceptable to randomly vote someone to generate discussion. Hey look, its working right now! I am however interested in why you're taking such great offense to my (and Kenpachis) actions. You're making these actions out to be much worse then they actually are. | ||
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You may have buddied the shit out of me in TL50, but it was the buddying that alerted me to your bullshit early on in the piece. If it weren't for your bodyguards, I was vig'ing you out of that game N1. You make it out like me voting for jaybrundage is so scummy because "ZOMG he hasn't posted yet!". This might actually mean something if I hadn't declared I was voting for someone who hadn't posted yet when I placed the vote. I am not going to cast a serious vote with my first post of the game. I wanted reactions from the people I questioned and then I would vote based on the additional information (ie their responses). You're claiming meta of me after one game which I half-played and three posts in this game? Come on. Your 'case' involves repeating the same 2 things over and over, and is crap as a result. I like how Ico sheeps your (bad) case BM, then says you're on drugs in the same post. Stinks of scum. ##Vote: Ico | ||
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How is he in line for a mod-kill when hes already posted, and got his vote in? How was that post "timed perfectly"? I wrote shit, I clicked post. It is hardly a delayed OMGUS. Since hes called me out once, does that bar me from ever voting him for the rest of the game or be branded as an OMGUS'er? He posts his 'reads', but are they really reads? he titles it 'lets discuss current votes' and then regurgitates what everyone has already said about the leading vote-getters. Lets take a look at them shall we: + Show Spoiler + On February 08 2012 03:47 ico wrote: @kitaman27 to be honest, I had to take a step back from the thread and figure out whether or not all the spam/trolling was normal for a game here. Let's discuss current votes: rgTheSchworz: I do not think he is scum. His case against kenpachi is weak, which is weird considering how easy a vote for kp is to justify. Because of that, I give him the benefit of the doubt and consider him a townie who is in over his head. Cyber_Cheese actually makes a decent vote, I'll repeat myself and say how scummy I find him being very active during a time he excused himself for prior. He is also fishing for the Joker. And he enabled DoctorSpamalot going on and on about batman, littering the thread. After his vote on RG gains some following he vanishes. Adam4167: Already talked about him, by the time he posts there are options for real/pressure votes available, yet he elects to go with a "random" vote on someone who had not posted by that time. He is in turn directly defended by DoctorSpamalot, which is weird. I really don't like how many pointless posts I had to read because of him. But dislike does not make a good case, so I can not vote for DoctorHelveticus at this time. Should he keep spamming I'll have to reconsider. I missed my opportunity to go after him 15 pages ago, which sucks. Sheth: I really can't read his behaviour so far. It is scummy, but he isn't the only one posting pointless rabble. For now he got the benefit of the doubt. So for now: ##Vote Cyber_Cheese @BM: what are taking? @Kitaman27: Why did you just write your vote down here and not in the actual vote thread? Alright, back to catching up with the thread. -He states that RGSchworz is probably not scum due to his case on Kenpachi being crap. RGSchowrz entire case revolved around Kenpachi's townie claim, something which Ico took offense to originally. How does this make his case crap then, if they share points of view? -Cheese. Well i mean just look at it. He calls cheese scummy for declaring his inactivity, then when cheese actually DOES go inactive, he calls him out for 'vanishing'. This is making something out of nothing. -His argument against me is 'ive already talked about it', then regurgitated what you said. -He says DrH spams a lot, and if he 'should continue to spam, ill have to rethink him not being scum'. Its a nothing read, capped off with 'i missed my opportunity to go after him 15 pages ago, which sucks'. Its never too late to scum hunt, if you think there's anything there, follow it up. -His line on sheth contradicts itself at the outset. 'I cant read his play, its scummy'. Well is it null ... or scummy? pick. Giving someone the benefit of the doubt after you've just called them 'scummy' is lazy. There's hardly an original thought in here. All of his reads are lazy and or contradictory. He tries to highlight 'bad play' and label it as a 'threat to town', a scum tactic. My vote stands. | ||
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Me and jay have a history of trying to get each other killed. So far i'm winning. Last game I got my votes in, from another state, while at a funeral and drunk 95% of the time. I make it happen because I care. I was always coming back to change that vote on JB. Zombie Apocalypse or no. If my case on Kurumi was so 'solid','decent' and 'legit', why not pick it up and run with it yourself? I still think he has a chance of flipping scum, but he also has good town play, as evident in TL50. It'll shine through in a day or two, or we hang him, pretty simple. Currently I'm focusing on someone who I see doing nil for town, while Kurumi proves his 'worth'. | ||
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On February 08 2012 05:30 rgTheSchworz wrote: 6 votes was the Largest wagon 6 or so h before lynchtime. If scum were going to hop on it, I would be d You assume that most of them weren't already on it. There's always a lot of movement in the last 6 hours, with people like Palmar telling everyone to get off your wagon, you were never at risk. Too late now, dwelling on this is pointless. Get as many decent reads out before you're cat food. | ||
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On February 08 2012 17:59 Tunkeg wrote: Its either you or me, someone have to go, I'm fine either way. You're seriously pulling this card again after saying after Student Mafia how much of a brain-fart it was? | ||
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No more claims PLEASE. | ||
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What is happening with the two people that didn't vote yesterday? | ||
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So we're left with him being an 'alignment cop' with a correct read on you, or hes just lying and trying to drag you down as he dies. | ||
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In an effort to head that off, lets talk about something more productive. Who do you think we should lynch today Doc? I'm not seeing many clear posts in your filter about who you believe to be scum. | ||
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On February 09 2012 16:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: He's not really in danger though so even if he was scum I don't see why he'd lie. There is a rule against saying the hidden part of your role directly until after it is resolved so he might not be allowed to tell anything beyond "I'm a DT". BC says it's fine to make up fake powers though. Unless he heard it in the phone-booth of manloving. I am far more suspicious of rGtheSchworz at this point, as every description in the OP that includes a DT or being DT'd seems to heavily indicate that it will be a role-reveal, not alignment reveal. Answers will come in 6 hours, otherwise, start taking his neck measurements. | ||
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On February 09 2012 18:14 Tunkeg wrote: Feel free to write a case on me. I am not getting lynched today, thats 100 % certain. Hiro have also promised a case on me. What makes you 100% certain of this? | ||
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On February 10 2012 07:46 Tunkeg wrote: Adam- you have been very silent this game my ozzy friend. You got the skills to be a major factor in this game, unless you are scum that is. Now do as the star in this classic and come when I whistle for you: + Show Spoiler + You know calling an Australian 'skippy' is derogatory, right.. I read the thread from 7:30KST - ~23:00KST every day. I am actively lurking this game because it feels like there's enough bullshit going on without me putting my 2 cents in every page. Also I'm slightly disenfranchised with this game, since we started playing the 'claim' game, a majority of the behavioral analysis has come out of the equation. With all the claims and nonsense going on, the logical course of action from here is to hang sheth, then rG. For what its worth, I know exactly what role Toad is, what his special power was and why it was that way. Hence why I'm far more inclined to believe him and DocH, unless a counterclaim was to come forward. ##Vote Sheth | ||
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On February 10 2012 15:54 rgTheSchworz wrote: Catwoman/Batman got all the role PM s in the game. They are not playing without info. Therefore Toad is 90 %CW, not town. He set up this thing with DocH, who probably is Clayface. Toad, if you are town, please aswer this: Do you know anything about Harley Quinn? Scum aren t being very active and are probably confused themselves right now. If Sheth flips red, it would certainly explain some things. Even better if he flips Strange. Sheth will never flip Hugo unfortunately. If he were Hugo, I sincerely doubt that with the ability to appear as anyone else in the game, he would choose a Tyger guard. | ||
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I agree with that list except risk.nuke. What has he done to warrant being higher on the list then Forumite or jay? Has he said more in the mason QT that might indicate his alignment better? | ||
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I see a few very town people on that list, and then those two. Can you run me through your thoughts on why? | ||
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Then after I and BM called him out, he just ignores us, even though hes obviously still reading the thread. His reason for voting Cheese was non-existent. He didn't vote me for being a 'derp', he didn't vote DrH for spamming, he thinks the best place for his vote is Cheese for "saying he was going to be inactive, then posting, then going inactive". That makes no sense to me. | ||
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Dumping shit on us for not being as good as Sandroba really isn't helping. | ||
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Ill get my thoughts to you shortly bugs. | ||
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Now onto what you asked bugs: VE is scum. I look at his list of reads Here and its all worthless. He reaffirms that he still wants Sheth dead, targets OpZ for being a lurker, targets Hiro as TOMORROWS LYNCH, even with all this noise going on with rG and DrH, he wants to focus on the lurkers. His entire section on Kurumi is actually talking about WBG and not Kurumi at all, yet Kurumi makes 'his list'. I don't think he cares and he comes off as hypocritical saying that other people aren't hunting for scum. I have serious doubts about this Sheth lynch. Last nights flip turned TWO insane inmates. Two of the three 'greens' that we have flipped so far have been millers. I get the feeling that there are going to be a whole bucketload of insane inmates in this game, as there was in Arkham City. I am not disputing the check from Radfield, I really don't see any reason for scum to out themselves like that. Radfield looks disengaged from all this carnage, I wouldn't be surprised if the one true thing Palmar has said is that Radfield is 3rd party. I think Palmars claim of shooting Radfield is a load of shit, just like all of his other claims. I think rGTheSchworz has done nothing but create utter chaos where there didn't need to be. Claiming far too early, a claim I believed to be bullshit at the time, then claiming a red check on DrH then RETRACTING IT. Why would any townie do shit like this? I can understand the early claim - panic'd in his first game as blue, but to then claim a red result and then retract it? No one with the towns best interest at heart does this. Id rather see rG or VE dead before sheth. I am unvoting sheth accordingly. ##unvote: Liquid`Sheth | ||
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Guess it makes no difference that I forgot to unvote him. | ||
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On February 11 2012 19:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I claim hit rG claims hit BM claims hit Rad claims hit (claimed by Palmar) Kenpachi killed (claimed by toad) Jackal hit (killed) Slardar hit (killed) rG claims Catwoman did not hit. IF Rad is Batman he used his DT power. 3 mafia KP 1 CW KP 1 BM KP If, as you say, CW nor BM hit that means either 4 vig's shot last night or some people are lying. This is why I asked Kurumi if he shot last night. He was the only one who really took interest in Slardar and I just cant justify that as a mafia hit... it just makes no sense on N1. | ||
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On February 12 2012 03:49 Forumite wrote: Worried about lurkers, and this game has too many of them. A group of people who keep up and post a lot, then a horde who don´t have time to read, doesn´t post and get forgotten. We will end up with them at LYLO, and when we do, then we won´t have any idea who among them are scum and who are Town. Bill for example, he´s been called scummy several times, but he´s not around enough, so everyone forgets aout him. This game is a quagmire and I can fully understand anyone not wanting to post into this mess. rG: I know what character you are trying to tell me you are. I can understand doing what you did if you're telling the truth, but don't you see the havoc its created in this town? was it really worth doing it to accomplish what you set out to do? Weather or not I believe you at this point is a whole different story. Lets hope the night kills clean up the thread some. | ||
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On February 12 2012 12:07 flamewheel wrote: My name is Zeus. Great, another claim. You're so anti-town, flamewheel. | ||
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Right here. Only happened 2 pages ago, but alas, it got spammed away. | ||
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Lets ignore rG for the moment, who is on the table for today's lynch. I still think Ico/rayzorflash will flip red. Evantrees is probably red. Tyrran too. All of them were on the Cheese mislynch, for lousy reasons, and as a result helped to keep sheth alive. | ||
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Otherwise, you're just being belligerent because you're scum. | ||
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On February 12 2012 22:31 rgTheSchworz wrote: Adam, would you please shut up. Pretty please?? I think scum are revealing themselves. You've turned this thread into a mockery since day 1. Whats even worse is that you're town. I want people like toad to move past your nonsense and get focused and back on track. No, I will not shut up. | ||
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Bah good enough. ##Vote evantrees | ||
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On February 13 2012 21:12 Palmar wrote: Not that I actually care, but if you want to improve at mafia, you should think harder about this. What reason do I have to listen to you right now? You've made yet another claim, which does not line up with all of the previous powers and night actions you've claimed, you're going to tell me you never claimed anything, I'm going to roll my eyes and not bother replying. See how much time I just saved us? | ||
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On February 13 2012 21:45 Palmar wrote: Rofl, don't mind me then, fail all you want. Well what do you expect? Someone who has been acting completely erratic all game, who I have no god-damn clue of his alignment, tells me to move my vote for the reason of 'your bad'. Why dont you point out why evantrees isn't scum, then I might be more open to your suggestion | ||
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On February 13 2012 21:51 Palmar wrote: His role pm said town. Great and where would I find that post, in the phonebooth QT? | ||
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##Vote Radfield | ||
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##Vote RayzorFlash | ||
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Unvote RayzorFlash Vote Radfield | ||
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On February 14 2012 10:41 kitaman27 wrote: Look at my hair. ITS ORANGE! That probably means I'm Irish. The Riddler loves Europeans. Looks like I have a new invite to my game. You we more than willing to go along with my fake trigger. Do you suddenly believe I'm lying about my identity now that the target has changed? Yes, I was willing to hang Ico/RayzorFlash. If you read my filter, you'd see that. Toad makes a great case for why setting off your trigger is unreliable, and risk.nuke also brings up a valid drawback. Where was this claim 8 hours ago when you returned to the thread? Why wait until less than 3 hours before a lynch to try and swing the result in a different direction? Go ahead, put me in your game | ||
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On February 14 2012 10:57 kitaman27 wrote: Sorry about the timing, but like I said before I wasn't sure what I'm allowed to claim. You don't dispute that I'm the Riddler do you? Are you really so confident that Radfied is scum that you would be unwilling to lynch a likely scum suspect that unlocks three town aligned kps? And if I was to dispute that you were the Riddler, would that put me into your game? So I'm supposed to give up this lynch to kill someone you want, to give you 3 kp to let you kill 3 more people that you want. I don't think you've done enough to earn this potentially game-ending responsibility. | ||
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On February 14 2012 11:23 kitaman27 wrote: Probably. I'll even send Calendar Man after you. I'm not quite sure what his super villain power is, but he's got a cape, so that has got to count for something. And if I was to win your game? What would be my reward? | ||
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Yet. I hereby formally dispute that you are the Riddler sir (my vote stays on Radfield) | ||
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On February 14 2012 11:58 kitaman27 wrote: So Adam, any reason for the complete 180? You say you don't see any reason for scum to out themselves like this, yet a day later you're voting for him. Do you really think he is scum or are you simply upset of the way I provided my claim? What are your thoughts on chaoser? Well, your claim timing sucked, I'm not going to lie. Palmars list has me swayed that he knows whats going on, for better or worse, ill follow him on this one. Even if Palmar is 3rd party, he has no reason to be hanging town DT's, considering the current state of our town. Ergo hes doing this for a good reason. Just because I say I don't see any reason for it at the time, doesn't mean I'm not allowed to reconsider later. To be honest, I have no clue about Chaoser. He could go either way. He sure looks fed up with this game, something I can relate to. | ||
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On February 14 2012 12:41 kitaman27 wrote: So lets get this straight. You think Palmar the mega troll has the best gameplan. You think Radfield voted Sheth day one as scum, you think Radfield revealed a scum check on Sheth day two as scum, you think bugs wrote out an essay bussing Radfield. Have you even called Rafield scum? You also believe that I'm not the Riddler. chaoser, rayzor, and Palmar are all lying about me putting them into the game because there is a huge conspiracy theory going on. You think that somebody else in the game is the Riddler and will counterclaim me in the near future. And you say you're the one fed up? :p Sure, why not. If you cant tell, I gave up caring 100 pages ago. I'm only saying you're not the Riddler at the hopes of being drawn into your game, which might actually be interesting. | ||
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On February 14 2012 13:18 VisceraEyes wrote: GOD FUCKING DAMNIT RADFIELD! I'm going to bed. I'm rereading from the beginning when I wake up. This confirms Palmar as Batman. If we want to keep him alive, we need to figure it out now because if not he needs to be tomorrow's lynch. I don't know what to think anymore. So... VE tomorrow then? | ||
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Wish you didn't dissapear, you were one of my strongest town reads after pushing me early game :o Life happens though | ||
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If Deadshot dies, do the mafia lose his KP? | ||
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The joker would be proud man! | ||
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On February 15 2012 13:00 kitaman27 wrote: In case I die, these are the players that are part of my game (I went with option 2). I may or may not have some control over which of those blow up. If you're on the list and feel a roleclaim or something will confirm yourself, feel free to give it a try. The stuff about killing chaoser to unlock my kps was nonsense. The odds of Radfield flipping scum were just so low that I felt there were better lynches available. At least things happened to work out :p evantrees jaybrundage Palmar chaoser (sounds like he is dying?) rayzorflash For today's lynch: Take a look at the day one Sheth vs CC lynch. Take a look at the fake DrH check. Take a look to the reaction to Radfield's "check" Take a look at the Radfield lynch Look for conversation that took place between Sheth, Radfield, or bugs and other players in the thread Something that nobody has mentioned is that Radfield couldn't have taken a shot from Palmar if he is Batman or CW. The third party shots pierce hugo's medic protection. Hopefully I'm still alive  Mhmm, I figured as much (about Chaoser being the trigger). I know I'm talking to a dead person but I guess this is for everyone else's benefit. The reason Palmars shot didn't kill Talia al Ghul (Radfield) is because she is immune to Batman strikes, as is stated in Batmans description in the OP, Hugo's medic protection never factored into it. With last nights action we are in a 9 v 4 v 2 situation here. We need to knock out one of Hugo or Deadshot today and hope our 3rd parties become a little less trigger-happy, otherwise we're gone by the next day. | ||
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On February 15 2012 22:24 Palmar wrote: rg is probably town, but man, that filter was painful to read. Well, according to Kurumi, he took a shot at rG on N1. That means he can only be town with whats left on the table, assuming Kurumi is who we think he is. | ||
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Id we'll find them somewhere in VE, Forumite, Hiro. | ||
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Plus blowing your Chaoser case waaaay out of proportion herehere I really hope he flips red.... or i seriously need to re-calibrate how much credit I give vets. I think the mafia team went into full bus mode on day 1, just to make this as difficult as possible. | ||
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I really cant get past him saying in the postgame of Student Mafia that his fight with layabout was the stupidest move of the game, yet he comes here, pisses in layabouts ear all game, then starts a fight with Chaoser as well. Vaderseven even suggested to him how good a tool that was for creating a distraction. Post in Question I don't buy that he wants to be known as the 'emo' townie that picks fights every game. | ||
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They don't seem to be vigging, otherwise our night kills would be even bigger. I guess Two-Face went DT... any time you wanna start crumbing some claims ... get on that.. | ||
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With both Sheth and Radfield flipping red, I really feel like VE will also. He also focuses on trying to get rid of Palmar. Bugs also suggested it. VE does this also. Same goals, Same alignment. ##Vote Visceraeyes | ||
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On February 16 2012 01:20 Tyrran wrote: visceraeyes : No idea. He is bussing hiro so i guess he is town ? wat How is he busing hiro... unless they're on the same team.. and you know this? (making you a part of the same team) And how do you go from: On February 16 2012 01:20 Tyrran wrote: With Radfield lync being that close, it is unlikely that any scum player that would have voted for him didnt switch to chaoser ( who we know was town) Therefore Forumite, tunkeg, quails, palmar, adam4167, katina and kurumi should not be the focus of town today. We have a much higher chance to find scum outside of these people. to: On February 16 2012 01:20 Tyrran wrote: Also Kurumi being CW makes sense. As stated before, killing him would reduce anti town KP, so i'm all up for that. Kurumi, Hiro, and Evantrees are all valid lynch for me.How about lynching Kurumi then shooting Hiro and Evan (Penguin and Batman)? In the space of a single post? | ||
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On February 16 2012 00:24 VisceraEyes wrote: Adam care to explain why I would stick my neck out to try and save Radfield if I were scum? I was VERY vocal against the Radfield wagon - do you imagine that I would make myself so visible as scum? Because if you do I'm a little offended that you'd consider my play so bad without ever having played with me. WIFOM, and trying to pull the emotion card wont work. | ||
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On February 16 2012 06:07 Kurumi wrote: Apparently using logic is illogical here . Oh well . Should've killed someone smart like Adam . I will have a surprise for You anyway. Kurumi, who did you shoot last night? Was it layabout? | ||
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I feel like I'm trying to put a puzzle together with half the pieces. If its legal, can someone whos still in it, please post it. We know all the scum have seen it, Radfield and Bugs were in it. | ||
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Which means they're still looking in there now and the only people without access to it are town. | ||
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On February 16 2012 09:29 Forumite wrote: Not sure if it´s allowed, but even if it was I don´t see any gain for Town. It´s not used much anymore, nor were all posters truthfull with their names when posting when we did use the thread a lot. Those two scum you mention are dead, so unless there are more scum in the QT, scum will only know what´s been said earlier. Revealing it would in that case give scum more info. I think I prefer keeping it for a Town-circle tomorrow. Why wait until tomorrow? If you think it'll be safe tomorrow and not today, who's still in there that you think is scum? | ||
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Hiro Protagonist Risk.Nuke Tyrran You think all of these people will be cleaned out overnight and it'll be safer tomorrow? Who do you plan on talking to, since you listed Palmar on your 'Ignore' list. | ||
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Games with 16 living players shouldn't be going yellow. | ||
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Schworz is town. Catwoman claimed a shot at him night 1, the only things in the game that could survive a catwoman shot are town roles. | ||
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On February 16 2012 17:23 Tunkeg wrote: Sorry for inactivity yesterday. rgTheSxhworz what were your actions last night? You have claimed TwoFace, you need to start claiming your actions... He has no night action | ||
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On February 16 2012 15:58 Adam4167 wrote: Schworz is town. Catwoman claimed a shot at him night 1, the only things in the game that could survive a catwoman shot are town roles. | ||
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On February 16 2012 18:16 Palmar wrote: No guts, no glory. We're lynching VisceraEyes. We really do have to take the risk at this point. If hugo/deadshot doesn't die tonight, we have 3-4 more townies dead tomorrow. | ||
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His interactions with Sheth feel forced. For example, what happened with this? On February 08 2012 10:47 VisceraEyes wrote: Now, everyone needs to get back on the Sheth lynch. I'll elaborate when I get home, but after reading his filter in context (going back and seeing how people reacted to ALL of his posts -.-) I'm even more certain he's scum. This has been a public service announcement. He never goes back to this because Sheth is already terminal at this point. Sheth realized he was screwed, and from previous experience (in Newbie Mini Mafia II), has seen how effective busing is, so he started attacking all of his teammates. His reaction to todays pressure tells me im headed in the right direction. Id be frantic right now if I were town. Instead he just dishes out insults and WIFOM, as JB pointed out, its very defensive. | ||
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Catwoman can random fire into town, but it'll just end the game quicker, giving her less days to figure out where Penguin and Two-Face are. | ||
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I just find something dirty in sharing a lynch with scum. Ill move my vote to Kurumi Holy shit, I just noticed something. I think I just solved the game. | ||
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I've spotted both Two-Face and Penguin. | ||
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With that information, do we still want to waste today's lynch on catwoman, and let her kill townies as we round up the scums over the next 4 days? | ||
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Two-Face can check you tonight, just to make sure. | ||
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Two-Face told me who he checked and he got two green reads. This leaves me with 6 people to find 4 scum and penguin. I am not 100% on Tunkeg, that's why I need him to work his magic again tonight. | ||
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Scum wont waste 2 KP on you, and you cant be hurt unless we lynch you | ||
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VE Hiro Tyrran Tunkeg Risk.nuke Ico/Rayzor | ||
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The only things that were really nagging at me towards you were all of the outbursts and the belligerent behavior directed at layabout. | ||
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VisceraEyes Tyrran Risk.nuke Rayzor And I think I know why Penguins night kills haven't been showing up either. | ||
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I was claiming Solomon Grundy tonight to scare catwoman and the scum off >.> | ||
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Gotta look out for my man Kurumi! | ||
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Evantrees... well gut feeling + radfield pushing him | ||
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Plus the entire scum team just tried to hang him today | ||
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Your list of reads here betray you. You have no opinion on Rayzor or VE, label Risk.Nuke town (for what??) | ||
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Ive been operating under the assumption you did. If not... | ||
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Really kind of important at this point, we flub this and we all lose. | ||
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We cant have two freeze. Well, knowing we have a DT, hidden behind a meatshield, you can knock out a lot of the guesswork for the coming days. | ||
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She knows where one of you is, and she cant get to you. Penguin is also hidden behind a meatshield. Blindly slaughtering town is not going to get her to her win condition. Shes no threat to us | ||
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Hugo can disguise himself as anyone, which only batman can see through. Forumite may not be Freeze at all. | ||
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Itll either do nothing, or scum will die. One of you is Hugo. Have at it Bats. | ||
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If hes right, hugo dies. If he picks the wrong one, neither of them will die at night since Freeze is immune to batman strikes. | ||
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Why kick up all this noise with another crappy claim, try and get us to lynch freeze, if hes ivy? | ||
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Otherwise, I think we're safety lynching Kurumi today, Batman will sort you out tonight rG/Forumite. | ||
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This will make for a good read in the morning. | ||
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That's 4 players that are nigh-on immune to night hits, since scum cant afford to waste their KP on slaying the vets. Scum will be forced to fire into the 'unknown' towns, which will make the 'final 4's job even easier. | ||
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On February 17 2012 07:29 Jayjay54 wrote: @adam: catch up: freeze is rg and he doesn't protect anyone. @hiro: yea, catch up. The blues are claimed, kurumi knows who to shoot and won't miss. I'm operating on 5 hours sleep >.> Still, catwoman dies, penguin can shoot his way to victory. | ||
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Tunkeg, someone who is confirmed town at this point, has outlaid a plan, using math as to why lynching Kurumi is the better play. Do not throw away our blues. I don't want to solely rely on them, but throwing them away needlessly is equally stupid. | ||
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Everyone on the VE lynch: Get off. Everyone thinking of late switching onto the VE lynch: You'll be shot overnight. | ||
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That means we have 4 people + 2 3rd parties voting on a 'townie'. 4 is such an ominous number. jaybrundage, evantrees, hiro and Tyrran. Do you really want to be grouped together for your defiance of what has been decided as the pro-town option? | ||
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On February 17 2012 11:18 hiro protagonist wrote: I want to lynch scum, not 3rd party. If we had found CW like 2 nights back, maybe, but I am very sure VE is scum at this point. and His chances of flipping hugo or DS are quite good I think. The fact that there are scum hiding behind the "safe lynch" and townies taking the "safe lynch" means we gain no info on voting from this round. I would lIke to take the stand that VE is scum and the better lynch. that being said, I see a semi win/win to the day: ether we lynch scum or catwoman. I just hope you realize that the remaining scum are pushing the CW lynch with town... And VE, I know your gonna say that I have no case. This is not true, I dont have the time to write it. So you're willing to throw away a protected vig and confirmed townie in the hopes of maybe getting deadshot/hugo. | ||
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because hes dead | ||
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I expected more of him. Just like I expected more out of you. Hes working with us right now, until that changes, ill leave him be while we lynch more pressing targets. Tonight's nightkills will be very telling. I don't see both of you surviving the night, so ill probably have an answer by the next day, assuming I make it that far. | ||
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Have at it penguin and batman. Plenty of scummy people for you to blow holes in. | ||
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If its 4 town + batman vs 4 mafia, do town lose? Mafia have not gained voting majority and could still be lynched. | ||
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We give up one scum kill now, to get it back tomorrow night when Penguin is alive and slaughtering scum. | ||
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I believe jayjays claim and it makes perfect sense. Now the scum will have to double stack risk.nuke if they want to get rid of him. They really can't afford to be double stacking right now. Each one almost gives us a new lynch, which is exactly what they can't afford to do. If I had a KP, I'd smoke hiro, evantrees, tyrran or possibly rayzor. You could kill VE for giggles also. | ||
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On February 18 2012 02:30 Adam4167 wrote: I think you guys have it backwards, rG said Freeze doesn't protect two-face, risk nuke said he did. This claim was only to scare scum away from two-face, so I see nothing wrong in the rG department right now. I believe jayjays claim and it makes perfect sense. Now the scum will have to double stack risk.nuke if they want to get rid of him. They really can't afford to be double stacking right now. Each one almost gives us a new lynch, which is exactly what they can't afford to do. If I had a KP, I'd smoke hiro, evantrees, tyrran or possibly rayzor. You could kill VE for giggles also. 4am thread reading -_- Ignore the second paragraph, I see my mistake. Rest is still good. | ||
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On February 18 2012 13:16 VisceraEyes wrote: GEEEEEEEE GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! + Show Spoiler + SURPRISE!!!! Hardly. | ||
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Id have got so frustrated with that. | ||
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I think I've come to a conclusion on our last 3 scum As there is literally no way in hell I'm surviving tonight, I want to post my cases today so there is some directions for tomorrows survivors to follow. | ||
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I spent 45 minutes writing a case about how I believe Jackal shot at evantrees N1 and Hugo intercepted the shot, and while I still believe that to be the case, it came down to largely speculation without concrete proof. Instead, lets just look in evantrees filter. One thing that stood out to me straight away is this quote On February 11 2012 20:20 evantrees wrote: and why am I still up I don't know. which comes from this post, link. This is a guilty mind. You expected to die, yet you didn't, and you're surprised. This, in addition to what Katina, Forumite and RayzorFlash have pointed out is enough to seal the deal for me. Hiro Protagonist I think VE switching off of Hiro as soon as Kurumi popped up was telling. Lets look at the hypothetical here. Scum VE (confirmed) is pushing 'town' Hiro, which will be backed by JayJay (who has been hating on Hiro all game) and then all but confirmed 3rd party Kurumi comes along, says one line, and bam, VE jumps off of Hiro, then onto Kurumi. I ask you, how does that make any sense. Catwoman was effectively a member of the scumteam, so why would the scum GF, jump off of a scummy looking 'townie' to try and hang a 3rd party? If the scum had sealed a mislynch on a townie right there, that would have been close to game over. Scum with 3KP, catwoman with 1. The only logical explanation I have is that VE and Hiro were both scum, started the day off by attacking each other and then jumped onto Kurumi by days end. It fits with this scum teams mission statement of bussing the crap out of each other wherever possible. And finally.. JayJay54 -He has posts in his filter emphasising how new he is. -His flipflopping on Sheth D1 was quite bad. First he's '75% agreed scum', then he's 'unconvinced' by the cases put forward, then he cant read him at all. -He tries to get Palmar hanged. A running theme for our scums. -His filter is filled with 'RAAAR IM AN ANGRY MAN', which is similar to gonzaw in Newbie Mini Mafia II -He calls Hiro scum over a dozen times before finally voting him on D3, even after classing him as his highest scumread on both D1 and D2. -His voting pattern indicates he always avoids the main lynches, except the sheth one, but the whole town was on that. Discuss. | ||
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You seem to think RayzorFlash is one, who are the other two? | ||
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On February 19 2012 19:48 Forumite wrote: Jayjay54, what´s your opinion on the rest of Adam4167's list? Of the three on that list you are the one that I´m most unsure about, so I´d love to hear your opinions and reads. Of the 3, hes the one I am also least sure of. I see stuff in JayJays filter that I don't like, but there are also things that stand out as things scum probably wouldn't say. Is that WIFOM? yes. But I still cant ignore it being there. Yes I was selective with your posts/quotes, you have a giant filter, and you seem to be unsure a lot of the time. See this is what im hung up on- 10 players: Hiro JayJay jaybrundage RayzorFlash evantrees Myself Quails Forumite Schworz Katina I start by removing myself. I know you guys cant confirm it... but its my list. Next, Forumite, hes penguin, that's entirely confirmable through the nightkills and lack of CC. Qauils was checked by nuke, nuke flipped who he said he was, so Quails is town. Schworz started breadcrumbing Freeze on day 2, Kurumi claimed a shot on him N1, and I cant see where else catwoman would have shot after the events of D1. Kurumi was also the only one calling him a Vet when everyone else was still guessing he was otherwise, on like D2 i believe. So Schworz comes off the list. Now I'm down to 6 names: Hiro JayJay RayzorFlash evantrees Katina jaybrundage 50% of the people in this list are scum. Id like to remove Katina and jaybrundage for staying on the Radfield lynch, scum had every opportunity to jump off (Chaoser, RayzorFlash). Four names, 3 of which are red: Hiro JayJay RayzorFlash evantrees evantrees attacks RayzorFlash and votes for him, Rayzorflash reciprocates. I'd like to think scum cant afford to bus right now (I guess that's another assumption which will probably be proven false), which leaves me with 3 names. This is where i'm at now. I'm forced to question if jaybrundage or katina was busing Radfield and just decided to stay on the lynch. Otherwise, scum are STILL busing each other today, and thus RayzorFlash goes back on the list. A lot of this has just been my internal Monologue. This is a difficult situation and I think thinking out loud will give you guys a better idea of where I am at. I think we are already on the best course of action. evantrees gets hanged, probably Hiro gets shot by forumite. Whoever survives the night, will have to weed out the final scum tomorrow. Assuming both of them flip red, then 2 town die at night, tomorrow is 5 v 1. That's two lynches to get it right. | ||
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On February 19 2012 21:11 evantrees wrote: Out of curiousity Adam4167 why do you think this late you will be shot by scum over -_-quails the confirmed townie? Probably because I am every 2nd post in this thread, trying to solve this. If the scum leave me alive for another day, then good, Ill be doing more of the same tomorrow, drawing people out, trying to get better reads. | ||
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On February 19 2012 21:11 evantrees wrote: This feels too much like scum asking if there is another medic out there to me. For the record, I was trying to figure out if Jackal shot at BM. Take it how you please though. | ||
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I cant see how BM survived N1 with the information we have on the setup so far, so I just marked his hit claim down to trolling. | ||
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He claimed the hit an hour after the day 2 post came up, way before any interaction with Kurumi. If Kurumi had DT'd him, discovered he was scum, Schworz would have to of been shot from somewhere else (where??) or be lying about that as well. Then, with no knowledge that Kurumi DT'd him (if he were scum), how would he know Kurumi would corroborate his story later. Look at this post. With Kurumi's flip now revealed, I think this post is obviously telling the story of what happened on N1 between Schworz and Kurumi. I think the level of synchronicity between them can only be explained by rG being a vet, Kurumi being catwoman. rG can only be town. | ||
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On February 20 2012 05:07 jaybrundage wrote: Im Bane. I got hit last night. Ballsy move from scum. But its a bullshit claim. We should lynch him today. ##Vote: Evantrees But this pretty much seals the deal for me. In my best Destiny voice... NICE CLAIM BRO Theres no unaccounted for KP from last night. Tunkeg was double stacked by mafia, risk.nuke shot by mafia, Tyrran killed by penguin, VisceraEyes shot by batman. Nor is there too much KP any other night to indicate the presence of another vig. ##Vote jaybrundage | ||
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On February 20 2012 05:07 jaybrundage wrote: But this pretty much seals the deal for me. If I was Bane, and someone counter-claimed me, it wouldn't 'pretty much seal the deal'. They'd be scum. By default. Because there clearly isn't two banes. | ||
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I'm not buying it. Palmar wanted to kill VE, for a majority of the game, he was killing him last night. | ||
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On February 20 2012 06:41 hiro protagonist wrote: Nope, you forgot the VE was Docing up one of his scum buddys. So it would work if Palmar shot VE, Deadshot shot JB and VE was protecting deadshot, see what Im saying? But you knew that already, Im I right? So you're saying scum have 4 KP? 2 on Tunkeg, 1 on Risk.nuke, one on JB? Nice try scummo, enjoy your lead | ||
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On February 20 2012 06:48 jaybrundage wrote: Its not a question about whether or not there was KP for the shot I was shot. If it was scum or a vig i dont know. But i do know i got shot. Is anyone claiming the shot? It could of been Palmar. But i doubt it i think he went after VE. Why would i claim i got hit last night if i hadn't got hit. It doesn't make any sense. How does that even make sense?! IT IS A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS KP FOR THE SHOT UNLESS SOMEONE FROM ANOTHER GAME IS TAKING SHOTS AT YOU | ||
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On February 20 2012 07:03 jaybrundage wrote: Ok so i got a PM from curu saying i got hit. That is not eligible for discussion. Unless the mods made a mistake. I GOT HIT. Make the right decision town. Im going out for dinner ill probably be back before lynch time Yes, you got hit last night from attacking Solomon Grundy and you were protted by Hugo. | ||
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On February 20 2012 07:02 hiro protagonist wrote: Nice try right back at you, but It would only take 1 KP to kill Tunkeg if he chose option 2... you need to think about all the possibility's yo! Wait a second, this is even more stupid then I thought. How would the scum team KNOW he only needed 1 shot, if that even was the case (which its not). You're not even trying. | ||
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Palmar only mentions JB twice in his entire 17 page filter. Once on Day 1 to commend me on my amazing RSV, and once on day 3, when he posted his list on the entire game, where he highlighted him has town. Still think he shot him? I don't. I think he shot VE. I think JB is lying. I think you'll flip Deadshot tonight when you get vigged, I think you should surrender because we have 2 lynches up our sleeve to find your last teammate. | ||
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In this star- studded lineup of mafia players, you think Bugs chose N1 to investigate TUNKEG? They wouldn't have got his night 2 check since he died that night. You are grasping at straws. | ||
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On February 20 2012 08:06 hiro protagonist wrote: no, If JB is telling the truth, he will be dead tomorrow from a vig hit because he said he already got hit, remember? Adam, you are not playing logically... Eh, I'm working on 5 hours sleep. My mind just auto-assumed that claim was bullshit.... because it is. Forumite will be back at some point, he can weigh in on today's lynch after all of this | ||
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Before the Two-Bane Fiasco, it might have been, because we didn't know where to shoot. Even if we flub this lynch today and hang Bane, one mafia dies tonight, that's a given. The only way this is LYLO, is if we screw this lynch, mafia kill two people AND Forumite cant seem to find a scum with the counterclaimer. Tomorrow is happening. | ||
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Link I am sure Hiro is scum, as is the rest of the town. That's why we need to keep him for tomorrow. Its the only thing we can all agree on. I would much rather Forumite use his vig power to rid us of an unknown, then we lynch the sure-thing tomorrow. That said, I fully agree with his most recent assessment and I think hes going to blast the last scum overnight, anyway. From there the survivors can lynch Hiro and ride off into the sunset. | ||
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The roles were decided before the game, then Hiro lurked. I don't think saying 'I don't believe the important vig role went to some random lurker' makes a great deal of sense. But do you understand what I'm saying? You seem pretty undecided on who the last scum is, as is everyone else. I think Forumite is the most experienced and has played the best out of all of us, thus I would prefer he takes the hard decision and leaves town with the easy one. | ||
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JB doesn't claim until AFTER 3 people have switched off of evantrees, and onto Hiro. Incoming WIFOM: Look at it from scum-JB's perspective (assuming evantrees is scum), your scum teammate has just been given an new lease on life thanks to his claim, now everyone is switching off to your much more scummier and suspicious teammate. Surely you'd just let your scummier teammate die, keep your mouth shut, and not out yourself as well. What I think happened: JB saw another person claim, panicked as the number of 'confirmed' townies was getting too large, thought he could win us over with a claim of being shot last night. It was rushed, not well thought out and that's why it was so obviously false. | ||
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On February 10 2012 01:01 rgTheSchworz wrote: I seriously don't get it. I posted in a hurry because it's f...ing FREEZIN in my country atm and i had to go to school. 20 pg+ since I went afk. Please explain Toad why i'm not Two-Face. On February 11 2012 18:58 rgTheSchworz wrote: Voting for me is a waste at this point in time JayJay. Even if you think i m scum because I lied,then you should shoot Palmar because he lied too. Can t say that I agree with chaoser defending me. Trusting what you think on first impulse is bad. On the other hand, how can you explain my actions, in a way that I end up scum? Reasonably, I should ve been scumcoached by now.would they allow me to endanger their team? Why he wrote VECTOR instead of VICTOR (as in Victor Fries, the characters real name) is beyond me, either way, I knew what he was getting at =/. He even told me to shut up because I was hinting I knew what his alignment was: Link This is his second game, I can understand a lot of his seemingly 'crazy' actions when put in that perspective. What made me suspicious of JB's claim is how he reacted. I was expecting him to react much more like rG, screaming like a banshee that the other person was undeniably scum, and they needed to die. I wish he would get in here and defend himself, I'm disappointed that I'm having to do this for him. | ||
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On February 21 2012 02:42 hiro protagonist wrote: lol, wow. god I wish I was scum, because Im gonna look so dumb when I flip town. oh well. This game is locked down for town. best course of action is for Forumite to shoot me tonight so you guys can figure out the last scum. I think its Katina at this point. This is different than me randomly asking to be hit earlier in the game, I do think the best course of action is to shoot me tonight. What in the actual f**k, you seriously just claimed scum? Well that was easy! First line he claims town, Second line he assumes his guilt. | ||
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You'll need to call your shot, Forumite. If we have deaths in the Riddler game, it might not be obvious to us if you shot at evantrees and he survived. | ||
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I already commented that I thought it was strange how he voted DocH after saying Hiro was 95% agreed scum. It also seems wishy-washy, not like id expect from jayjay. | ||
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He correctly identified him as a blue on day 3, called me fail for being on the lynch. Sure he was batman, but toad was already on deaths door at that point, so it was in his best interest to help town. | ||
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We're looking for one scum and I feel its entirely between Katina/Jayjay54. We have 2 lynches and your shot before we lose. We should flip all 3 of these players. It just doesn't add up that rG is scum, the only townside KP missing on N1 is Jackals. Jackal could only shoot people in his phonebooth, rG was NOT one of them. It just doesn't make any sense for him to be scum. | ||
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We cant afford to be safe anymore. I think you need to flip JayJay. The entire scum team tried to get Palmar hanged, him and Hiro are the only ones with that in their filters of the remaining players. If he flips town, the town can all agree to lynch Hiro tomorrow, then move onto either Katina or start questioning the veteran claims. | ||
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 Town lynches Hiro tomorrow, then the town can either lynch Katina or discuss if they think the veteran claims are BS on the final day. I think its the best play. | ||
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If hes town, he'll understand. | ||
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The town will lynch Hiro tomorrow if you leave him alive, that is a certainty. We need to use your shot to ferret out the last scum between Jayjay and Katina. If the one we flip tonight flips green, then its the other one. | ||
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I don't have faith that the remaining town get this right. Its blunt, I know, I'm sorry. We need to take that choice on ourselves, shoot one of those two, let them go on to lynch Hiro and the survivor, assuming we don't pick the red one. | ||
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rG, you need to get in here and explain how you still have a second life. If catwoman shot you on N1, you don't have a second life. | ||
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Forumite explicitly stated that he shot Hiro. Scum shot Forumite and Quails RayzorFlash was killed in the riddler game. I bought your bullshit claim all game long. ##Vote rGTheSchworz | ||
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If catwoman had taken a shot at you, you would have one life. There was no medic to protect you. You bastards double stacked Palmar and claimed one of the hits on yourself. Kurumi DT'd you, found out your role and has been messing with us all game. Now the N1 night kills make sense. Bravo. | ||
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On February 21 2012 13:00 evantrees wrote: Current reads and sick of trying to looking at filters. confirmed town forumite quails evantrees leaning town hiro protag - going to be a bit mad at him whatever he flips... Jayjay unsure rayzorflash dead tonight hoping scum katina scum rgsworchs adam4617 and because I feel the need to say it I am not going to believe any medic protection claims by anyone but forumite tomorrow. OK. NAP, not buying it. How in the christ could you have a town read on Hiro after his play this game? I think you and rG are both scum. I can only hope that JayJay and Katina can forgive me for trying to get them vigged. These are our two scum guys. | ||
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I was too gullible, assumed rG was town and that Hiro would flip scum. My thought process was that the last scum was hiding among either yourself or Katina, and that 'tomorrow' (this day) would involve random votes flinging everywhere and result in a mislynch. I have been a complete fool this game. All I can offer you right now is that rG is undoubtedly scum, since he claimed a hit. I truly do apologize to the entire town for this one. | ||
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On February 21 2012 19:27 Jayjay54 wrote: In general, setup thoughts are stuck in my head. I know, that I can't really go from it, but I somehow don't believe there are all 4 vets in this game? I also believe deadpool's role went to someone experienced...I just have this in the back of my mind. I can only hope rG will flip deadshot. I am not experienced, this is my 5th game of mafia. Everyone told me after my first game to be more confident, push my reads when I had them. They were just completely wrong this game. | ||
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Out of everyone in this game, Hiro is the LAST person scum would have shot, as we all considered him scum. | ||
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Its completely bullcrap, Forumite specifically called his shot on Hiro. I get the feeling rG isn't even reading the thread, as why he would try to push a lynch on you after my behavior in the last two days is mind boggling | ||
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[QUOTE]On February 21 2012 20:33 Adam4167 wrote: a) Why not shoot hiro/scum and remove his vote, if you are afraid of a mislynch? b) Where is evantrees in this calculation? Was he town as well? If so, why? c) Why did you decide to shoot me? Forumite had a townread on me at the beginning and a scum read on katina. Why me? .[/QUOTE] a) I wanted to remove the guess work out of which one of you or Katina was the final scum. If Forumite vigged you and you flipped scum, then we would lynch Hiro and GG this. If you flipped town, we would lynch hiro, and then by the process of elimination, lynch Katina tomorrow. b) Evantrees is another claim I just took as gospel. Stupidly. I see now that he is probably not Bane, and the reason JB's claim was so bad is that he wanted to get caught to semi-confirm evantrees. c) I mentioned why I chose you to Forumite. The entire scum team had tried to get Palmar hanged at some point throughout this game, you had, Katina hadn't. I figured it was a collaborative scum effort to get rid of Palmar, after they realized he was batman. | ||
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On February 21 2012 21:11 Jayjay54 wrote: fragged himself? like modkill or something? We know penguins role message and it doesn't mention that he has a passive or can kill himself. also, please respond to my post on your try to get me vigged. No, rG is claiming he has a return-damage attack, just like Tunkeg had in his role description | ||
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On February 21 2012 20:58 Jayjay54 wrote: PS: I just reread my recent posts...sorry for grammar errors and stuff. English is obviously my second language. Combining angry typing and the lack of an edit function results in mistakes... You have every right to be completely pissed and shouldn't apologize in the slightest. I took too many assumptions this game and tried to get you killed as a result. You'll be even more pissed at me after my flip and you see what a complete moron ive been, I put Hiro to shame. | ||
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I only saw Toad being Joker because ive played Arkham City, and I knew that Joker had 'hired' Clayface to stand in for him. I truly was that Naive, I bought into rG's crappy story from the very start. I assumed he was just really bad townie, since its only his second game. I understand that you probably cant get past this. I knew exactly how it looked after Hiro's flip, my heart sank. | ||
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rG needs to die, he is clear scum. But I think after this, me, you and the last scum are probably going to LYLO. I cant see how I can talk you out of lynching me in that position, regardless of who the third person is. | ||
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On February 22 2012 02:46 rgTheSchworz wrote: And be as naive as you will, I do still care a bit about the game but I know that I wont be able to influence scum. So that leaves the 2 townies that are left.Which are currently against me. I propose a massclaim. It is time. Ok lets examine what you just said. You assume both me and JayJay are town, when my actions in the last two days would give you every reason to think otherwise. Furthermore, if we're both town, and you just claimed evantrees was confirmed town, and you're town. That means there's only in fact 1 scum left, and by the process of elimination, must be Katina. Why is your vote not on Katina and where is the 2nd scum in your theory? | ||
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I should really not post as soon as I wake up. You assume me and JayJay are the final two scum. Why would I try and get my scum partner shot last night? that makes no sense either -_- | ||
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You cant never mind claiming a hit that didn't exist! | ||
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You let Forumite shoot you, without warning him that it would kill him from return-damage? So you are either lying or actively sabotaging the town, which is it? | ||
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This game has literally done my head in. Evantrees, please get some thoughts down and a vote in | ||
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Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? | ||
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In that same post you've just quoted there, he tries to get Jaybrundage vigged, who was a scum. Hiro really did nothing this game, multiple times he 'slipped' and made scummy comments. He put in zero effort all game, next to no reads. I still don't understand how he didn't flip scum, it blows my mind that a townie could play like that. | ||
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On February 22 2012 11:11 Adam4167 wrote: If you somehow flip town rG, I am probably just going to curl into the fetal position and cry. This game has literally done my head in. BRB FLOOR | ||
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Then rG claimed a shot that didn't exist after lying a half dozen times throughout the game? What could I possibly do? How could I just ignore another lie that was blatantly against what was in the day post. This just strengthens how much i loathe people that lie as town. | ||
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I spent the whole game defending him, he lied again and made himself look like scum trying to do what jaybrundage did, so I felt like a colossal tool. It was all for naught anyway, with evantrees naming the two remining townies as his probable scums, we were never winning after that vig shot hit Hiro. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13592235 | ||
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I don't see how I could convince you any further that I was town, I was continually bumping the thread when it went quiet, trying to solve the game, doing retarded shit like outing all of our blues (I would have just SHOT them if i spotted them as scum). And in case anyone cares: I've never survived longer then 3 days in any game before, so late game was entirely new territory for me. | ||
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As soon as he flipped red, I thought, well this is my last night in the game! I somehow went largely unnoticed by everyone until day 4 it seems. | ||
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Oh my, Radfield had you summed up from the get-go! | ||
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