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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 12 2012 18:44 GMT
#2541
On February 13 2012 03:39 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Well, thing is, normally on TL medic protection are announced, aren´t they?
The fact that he said
Show nested quote +
i took a hit last night
my role would not allow me to survive said hit.

what i would then conclude:
i must have been medic protected (but i have not been told that directly)


shows that he did get hit.
I searched the thread for similar information that you don t get the announcement that you ve been protected by a medic.Nada

If Bugs was killed in one night, which is so if none of our Vigis claim, then laya´s statement must be true?
Or BM and Laya are scum together and BM is Hugo.

Thing about the PM s coming in late seems weird.
Also why BM would protect laya?
Who then protected me?






I'm pretty sure I would not get a notification either. I only asked if I get a notification if I get hit while clayface is still alive and BC told me I I would not but I figure clayface would protect me with medic protection as well leaving me without a notification.
But that's a pretty specific case.

Also I am pretty sure the notification you get when protected by a medic is not telling you that you get protected. I think it only tells you something along the lines "you've been hit but you're not dead" which pretty much only leaves medic protection as an option. But I'm not so sure right now.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 12 2012 18:44 GMT
#2542
So, Kurumi, if he didn´t get hit, where did he get that medic protections are unnanounced?
Assuming No one shot WBG N1.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 12 2012 18:45 GMT
#2543
Pm is ,,You have taken a hit´´
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 12 2012 18:45 GMT
#2544
On February 13 2012 03:44 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 03:35 Toadesstern wrote:
kurumi who do you want to lynch?

Bill Murray, Hugo Strange. Then I'll kill laya.


how do you think he's huro strange?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 12 2012 18:48 GMT
#2545
On February 13 2012 03:45 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 03:44 Kurumi wrote:
On February 13 2012 03:35 Toadesstern wrote:
kurumi who do you want to lynch?

Bill Murray, Hugo Strange. Then I'll kill laya.


how do you think he's huro strange?

He claimed a medic. Convienent, isn't it?
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rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 12 2012 18:49 GMT
#2546
Toad, if one of them´s scum, both are. It´s just weird that Bill would protect laya twice.
Either they re both scum or both town.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 12 2012 18:49 GMT
#2547
maybe he got hit and is pulling an annul on us. You know, annul was a mafia, I was a mafia doc, annul got shot by a dayvig , I protected him that night and he carelessly claimed a hit. He never lied but of course explaining how someone protected him instead of other people like syllo, rad or palmar was an issue.

I really don't see people protecting laya at all but maybe that's because I said CC / laya are our two best lynch options d1 and have been tunneling a bit.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 12 2012 18:52 GMT
#2548
I don't think layana would late-lie about a medic protection, palmar's and BM's hit claim were kinda late too.

Given, that we don't lynch palmar. We need do discuss more.

How about nuke. His filter looks aweful. One liners with no content whatsoever. He agrees with the Sheth vote after Rad announces the check.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305850&user=76576&currentpage=All

This is pretty much the definition of lurking. I know from all that he can be quite vocal.

risk you in here? What is your new favourite lynch choice?

I would lynch him as, too.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 12 2012 18:52 GMT
#2549
But they can t be one scum the other not.
BM scum laya not doesnt make ANY sense.
BM not scum, laya scum either.
I
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
February 12 2012 18:53 GMT
#2550
I want to lynch Evantrees today.

Reason 1: Votes

He was one of the ones who hammered through the CC lynch. He voted him late and for apparantly no good reason. Only BM and WBG were later voting for him than.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309352&currentpage=4#73

He was also the last person voting for Sheth, and it seems like a vote to save face:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309352&currentpage=6#120

His reasons for voting have been non-existent, these are his 3 "vote" posts:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 08 2012 12:02 evantrees wrote:
Bah good enough.
##Vote Cyber_Cheese

Proper voting format is

##vote name
BC do you care if there are : in there?


On February 09 2012 18:52 evantrees wrote:
48 hour day cycle, Day ends at 11pm est Thursday.
huh, Isn't it thursday morning now?

Tunkeg brought up something that bugs me.

I ask BC "Are there roles roles that have a mechanic that is not known to the player possessing that role?" and he says that is not the case.

So what about millers?

I really like the idea behind jackals role.

I have no problem voting for someone based on getting utter nonsense from them.
Lets hear something Schworz, until them.

##Vote rgTheSchworz

Also Palmer and Radfield are still alive interesting.

ninja'd+ Show Spoiler +
On February 09 2012 18:42 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 18:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 09 2012 18:38 Palmar wrote:
What shit?

Did you not claim to be Two-Face and lie about being masoned with Toadesstern?


I do not recall anything like that.


On February 09 2012 02:19 Palmar wrote:
I claim two-face too, you see, the role is shared between two people who are basically masons. That's why I told Toad he was dumb. I threw some suspicion on him day 1 without ever intending to lynch him (we're confirmed town to each other, obviously). Also I told him not to claim, but he refused to listen to that.

He's the "good" part (DT) and I'm the "bad" part (vigilante)

So yeah, I can confirm Toad's claim.


On February 09 2012 05:17 Palmar wrote:
we're masoned (ie: we know each other's alignment, confirmed by host).




On February 11 2012 10:24 evantrees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 10:17 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also why is BM not spamming the thread?


Palmer is doing the job for him.

I am hoping he flips scum so might as well clean up the vote tally list a bit.

##unvote rgtheschworz
##Vote Liquid'Sheth




Reason 2: Filter of nothingness
His filter have no hard stands on anything. Basicly just fluff and one post where he says chaoser is scum, without any reasoning. Nothing that will give him any attention, nothing that will hold him accountable for anything:

On February 10 2012 08:38 evantrees wrote:
Kurumi I like you for some damned reason.

Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 08:21 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
On February 10 2012 08:10 Kurumi wrote:
Also Viscera, WBG is voting me because I accussed him of being scum day 1 and actually was right, but Sheth made puppy eyes and I doubted my ability to play this game.
Fuck puppy eyes

Can't wait for my flip. I can't even argue my way out of this because of the sheer mass of people just saying kill me. I'm collecting what reads I have and will submit them right before I die.


Unless BC randomly cut the day length in half I'm pretty sure you have more than 24 hours still, why wait to post them, to make sure they are non missed just repost them all before the lynch.

Which players do you think are hurting town the most?
Too much spam!

Which players do you think are pushing a scum agenda?
chaoser, he was anyways.

Which players do you think are scum?
chaoser



In this crazy game of spam and mad claims and speculations I find posters like Evantrees the most scummy.

Vote ##Evantrees
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 12 2012 18:53 GMT
#2551
On February 13 2012 03:52 Jayjay54 wrote:
I don't think layana would late-lie about a medic protection, palmar's and BM's hit claim were kinda late too.

Given, that we don't lynch palmar. We need do discuss more.

How about nuke. His filter looks aweful. One liners with no content whatsoever. He agrees with the Sheth vote after Rad announces the check.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305850&user=76576&currentpage=All

This is pretty much the definition of lurking. I know from all that he can be quite vocal.

risk you in here? What is your new favourite lynch choice?

I would lynch him as, too.

Didn't You read his claim?
"I just got notified I got hit"
Yeah, weird, isn't it?
Also 3k posts.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 12 2012 18:56 GMT
#2552
On February 13 2012 03:49 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Toad, if one of them´s scum, both are. It´s just weird that Bill would protect laya twice.
Either they re both scum or both town.


rg, use your logic. Say BM thinks layana is good town, he protects him two times. What does that have to do with lanaya's real alignment.

Also why can't BM just lying about protecting him. Lanaya only gets notified when he was hit, he was alive so BM knew he wasn't killed. (I find that unlikely, but it's possible as well)

So no, everything is possible. Especially a scum lanaya and town BM should not be counted out.


[This has nothing to do with me seeing lanaya as scum, I just want to argue with that "Both town or both scum" idea]
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 12 2012 18:56 GMT
#2553
Our confirmed non-scum to me:
Toad
Palmar
Kurumi
rgTheSchworz
Radfield

I haven t heard from Katina, chaoser,Tyran,Hiro, nuke, qualis, evantrees, jaybrundage, tunkeg.
Tobberath is gonna get modkilled.
There are too many Lurker extraordinaire´s this game.

I still support a Jaybrundage lynch.Most scummy of them all.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 12 2012 18:58 GMT
#2554
On February 13 2012 03:48 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 03:45 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 13 2012 03:44 Kurumi wrote:
On February 13 2012 03:35 Toadesstern wrote:
kurumi who do you want to lynch?

Bill Murray, Hugo Strange. Then I'll kill laya.


how do you think he's huro strange?

He claimed a medic. Convienent, isn't it?


He's not a medic all right. I thought he's a vig becaus apparently he knew all along that we've got multi-shot vigs.
Remember when I quoted that and tried to look surprised when he said something along the lines "town is bound to have somethin like 5 KP PER CYCLE"?
This is my 6th game I think and so far it's the first game ever for me with multishot vigs. So he got that information somehow and that means he knew our vigs are stronger than normal vigs.
Either because he is a vig himself or he got some other information because he's mafia or somehow knows about another vig, like clayface, but he did not know what's in my rolepm, therefore he did not know I'm a multishot vig.

The interesting part is that he actually wanted a massclaim early on and I think he was part of the people supporting to sacrifice me to get badman on our side. Obviously we can't say CC was wrong so easily because he thought I am a one-shot vig and that we're going to trade a one-shot vig against a multi-shot 3rd party who is bound to help us after I'm dead.

However if BM knew there were multishot-vigs in this game that's a completly different story. If he knew that there is no way that trading a blue multishot vig for a 3rd party multishot vig who's MAYBE behaving the way they think can be considered pro-town.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 12 2012 18:59 GMT
#2555
On February 13 2012 03:52 rgTheSchworz wrote:
But they can t be one scum the other not.
BM scum laya not doesnt make ANY sense.
BM not scum, laya scum either.
I


... you use words, but you don't say anything with sense. => I'll ignore your posts from now on. (maybe red checks)
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 12 2012 19:01 GMT
#2556
On February 13 2012 03:58 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 03:48 Kurumi wrote:
On February 13 2012 03:45 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 13 2012 03:44 Kurumi wrote:
On February 13 2012 03:35 Toadesstern wrote:
kurumi who do you want to lynch?

Bill Murray, Hugo Strange. Then I'll kill laya.


how do you think he's huro strange?

He claimed a medic. Convienent, isn't it?


He's not a medic all right. I thought he's a vig becaus apparently he knew all along that we've got multi-shot vigs.
Remember when I quoted that and tried to look surprised when he said something along the lines "town is bound to have somethin like 5 KP PER CYCLE"?
This is my 6th game I think and so far it's the first game ever for me with multishot vigs. So he got that information somehow and that means he knew our vigs are stronger than normal vigs.
Either because he is a vig himself or he got some other information because he's mafia or somehow knows about another vig, like clayface, but he did not know what's in my rolepm, therefore he did not know I'm a multishot vig.

The interesting part is that he actually wanted a massclaim early on and I think he was part of the people supporting to sacrifice me to get badman on our side. Obviously we can't say CC was wrong so easily because he thought I am a one-shot vig and that we're going to trade a one-shot vig against a multi-shot 3rd party who is bound to help us after I'm dead.

However if BM knew there were multishot-vigs in this game that's a completly different story. If he knew that there is no way that trading a blue multishot vig for a 3rd party multishot vig who's MAYBE behaving the way they think can be considered pro-town.

He's Scum Godfather Medic and Bearer of 1 KP.
Best lynch ever. Get rid of GF, Medic and 1KP.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 12 2012 19:02 GMT
#2557
we're not lynching people (read: evantree for example) for lurking as long as we got lurker banes alive. Yeah that's me, I'm basicly cleaning the filth in here.
I'm going to read rads case on him later on when I'm done watching this let's play but I'd much rather lynch people like BM.

Also an interesting question? Did BM claim protection? Usually both the medic and the guy being hit get a notifiation if that protection was "used".
I see lanaya claiming but I can't recall BM claiming "hey I saved someone" by heart.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 12 2012 19:02 GMT
#2558
On February 13 2012 03:56 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 03:49 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Toad, if one of them´s scum, both are. It´s just weird that Bill would protect laya twice.
Either they re both scum or both town.


rg, use your logic. Say BM thinks layana is good town, he protects him two times. What does that have to do with lanaya's real alignment.

Also why can't BM just lying about protecting him. Lanaya only gets notified when he was hit, he was alive so BM knew he wasn't killed. (I find that unlikely, but it's possible as well)

So no, everything is possible. Especially a scum lanaya and town BM should not be counted out.


[This has nothing to do with me seeing lanaya as scum, I just want to argue with that "Both town or both scum" idea]


Ok, yeah say BM thinks laya is good town.
Bm s not scum then lol.
That would be the only case when i´m wrong.
Because of laya´s message i´m finding it HIGHLY UNLIKELY that he claimed hit when he was not hit.
If BM is scum, he wouldnt protect laya.
Not one bit, if they werent scumbuddies.

No one CC ed Hush.I m finding it very probable that BM is a medic.
And say BM didnt prot him, and hes lying as scum.
SO WHOS THE FOOL WHO PROTECTED LAYA?
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
February 12 2012 19:04 GMT
#2559
None would have protected laya N2 except for BM. Follow my logic JayJay?
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
February 12 2012 19:04 GMT
#2560
On February 13 2012 04:01 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 03:58 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 13 2012 03:48 Kurumi wrote:
On February 13 2012 03:45 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 13 2012 03:44 Kurumi wrote:
On February 13 2012 03:35 Toadesstern wrote:
kurumi who do you want to lynch?

Bill Murray, Hugo Strange. Then I'll kill laya.


how do you think he's huro strange?

He claimed a medic. Convienent, isn't it?


He's not a medic all right. I thought he's a vig becaus apparently he knew all along that we've got multi-shot vigs.
Remember when I quoted that and tried to look surprised when he said something along the lines "town is bound to have somethin like 5 KP PER CYCLE"?
This is my 6th game I think and so far it's the first game ever for me with multishot vigs. So he got that information somehow and that means he knew our vigs are stronger than normal vigs.
Either because he is a vig himself or he got some other information because he's mafia or somehow knows about another vig, like clayface, but he did not know what's in my rolepm, therefore he did not know I'm a multishot vig.

The interesting part is that he actually wanted a massclaim early on and I think he was part of the people supporting to sacrifice me to get badman on our side. Obviously we can't say CC was wrong so easily because he thought I am a one-shot vig and that we're going to trade a one-shot vig against a multi-shot 3rd party who is bound to help us after I'm dead.

However if BM knew there were multishot-vigs in this game that's a completly different story. If he knew that there is no way that trading a blue multishot vig for a 3rd party multishot vig who's MAYBE behaving the way they think can be considered pro-town.

He's Scum Godfather Medic and Bearer of 1 KP.
Best lynch ever. Get rid of GF, Medic and 1KP.


I don't think the Scum Godfather Medic and Bearer of 1 KP would nameclaim n1.

CC => instadeath. The role is way too important to nameclaim that early.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
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