Newbie Mini Mafia III

On January 26 2012 23:35 Simberto wrote:
Chocolate looks strange. Not only is he active on TL, but not contributing here at all, almost all of his posts consist of zero content. He is saying that he tries to make Lurkers post, while he pretty much lurks very hard himself. Other then that, he did not post anything except an attack on the random lynching plan.

I would really like some kind of statement from those 3 guys.

On January 28 2012 05:09 slOosh wrote:
Are people not talking because they don't know what to talk about?

How about this. Answer these two questions
- Name one person who you think is town and why.
- Name one person who you think is mafia and why.

Bromancipate, SacredSystem, Chocolate, balt11t, CosmosXAM, Adam4167 and zelblade - answer the question.
All the rest of us have been pretty active and so instead of answering this ourselves we should pressure the lurkers.
By withholding our own answers, we can put these guys in the spotlight.

There are 7 hours left in the night. Post or warrant more suspicion on yourselves. Town have nothing to fear, and much to gain by posting.

List of haven't posted yet:
Bromancipate, SacredSystem, Chocolate, balt11t, CosmosXAM, Adam4167 and zelblade.

On January 28 2012 06:41 slOosh wrote:


Please provide one quote of his in which he does this and show how you come to this conclusion. I want to see you do it, instead of doing it for you.
Pick only one mafia suspect.

On January 26 2012 10:34 SacredSystem wrote:


i was saying that we shouldnt make wild assumuptions based on inconclusive logic traps, which many of you were doing

also if you arnt saying anything, then dont say it



now fakepromise made a decision which doenst make much sense from the townes perspective, now im not assuming anything in sayin that, which is why im voting for fakepromise as mafia







sorry i forgot about the voting thread

On January 29 2012 10:44 SacredSystem wrote:
i was originally suspicious of chocolate for simply abandoning his chase on cosmos and then using my logic to jump on fakepromise when several people were already onboard to lynch him

however in light of recent events there seem to be a lot of odd posts and ideas that are floating around that have reduced my interest on chocolate

i am busy reading into the incentives and motives that other players have made and ill be posting my thoughts in a moment

if he were mafia wouldnt he know?
as of now i am really tempted to lean in favor of zelblade just being a noob like he claims to be

Now the two most prominent suspects for mafia at the moment at Zerpath, who is the most prominent, and myself. Yet interestingly enough he is attacking me
now we both cant be mafia, if we were we wouldnt accuse each other
that leaves us with 3 choices, we both are town, i am mafia, zerpath is mafia

On January 30 2012 02:04 Simberto wrote:
I think that for today, SacredSystem is not a very good lynch. I also still remain very, very suspicious of zelblade, and would really like to lynch him since so often stuff seems to lead towards him, like this Zarepath case does, too. Basically the moment the second Zarepath case appears, zelblade comes out of lurking and attacks SacredSystem (easy target), quickly reinforced by Zarepath himself.

This, in my opinion, makes the already strong case on zarepath stronger. There are also some more inconsistencies i noticed upon rereading the thread, but this could also be my confirmation bias speaking (which upon rereading day 1 seems to be pretty strong).

For the moment, to avoid falling into the same traps i did on day 1, i will keep my vote on zelblade for overall fishiness, but i won't be the reason the zarepath case fails unless something truly unexpected comes up.

I would also really like our friendly neighbourhood lurkers balt11t, bromancipate and chocolate to both post in this thread and cast their votes.

I am giving leeway to SS based on my belief that Zelblade is mafia. It is conditional leeway. Hypothetically if there was room for another mafia member on the team I would totally agree with you and move to lynch SS. However because there are only 4 and I cannot see how mafia team could be Zarepath, Zelblade, balt11t and SS, I am inclined to believe SS is just a confusing, anti-town townie (much like FakePromise).

And for the 3rd scum, id be looking at Chocolate or Bromancipate.

On January 31 2012 19:21 zelblade wrote:
Also one thing that I feel is wierd:



It seems like he is attempting to be casting doubt onto DYH at this point. I understand this is a minor point, but i feel that it is really wierd.

On February 01 2012 01:24 Simberto wrote:
And to avoid this whole thing being to one-sided, i want to point out two significantly non-scummy things i did.

I was the first person to be suspicious of balt11t because of the way he attacked FakePromise, even though i should have followed that through after FakePromise flipped green. At least i hope that some of the suspicion that was on him is a result of that.

I was the first person to accept the day1 case against zarepath. At that point in time there was a very real chance that that case could succeed, and if it had succeeded, me supporting it might have very well been the deciding factor. Sure, it did not succeed, but that is not something i knew at that point in time, when there were still more then 2.5 hours on the clock. I only did change my vote away from zarepath when it became totally clear that there was no chance that we would get a lynch on him.

Well, i don't know what i thought half a week ago. I know that that post does not make any sense, so i must have either simply put in the wrong name by accident, or at that point in time believed it is the right name. Should i make up some bullshit why putting that name there makes sense when it obviously does not?

On February 01 2012 07:58 slOosh wrote:
I agree with you on the lurking. I do believe that Chocolate should speak up as we progress into lategame. There are so many things to talk about and really no reason to remain quiet as a town. Right now, being neutral on people's lists is something that warrants inspection.

However, these are things I don't like.
You don't expound on your reasonings on SacredSystem - WHY does he look clean?
And WHY do you think that Adam is strange on lack of info even though you say in the same post that he has content?

On that note I would like Chocolate to comment on his opinions. Day 3 and I'm still not too sure what you actually think.
For instance, what do you think about Simbarto, SacredSystem and Zelblade?
Please be clear in revealing your thoughts (e.g. I think this person is mafia because of this, and this other guy is town because of this etc.)

On February 01 2012 09:07 Adam4167 wrote:
Posting lists is scummy prob, you should know that

Seriously though, I feel like of those 5 names I am mentioning, the last 2 scum are in there.

Chocolate looks bad. He spends all of day 1 soft defending zarepath, jumps on the zarepath vote quite late on day 2 (hes vote number 7 with 5 required to lynch), hes nigh on inactive and when he shows up he doesn't push any cases or reads.

Zelblade is an interesting case. I know people hate it when this gets said, but flipping him would provide a wealth of info. He was also fairly late on the Zarepath vote on day 2, after trying to push my case on SacredSystem. Jury is still out here, Id probably keep him alive another day while we lynch someone else and gather more information.

SacredSystem I eased up on a while ago. Hes another one who can stay around while we hang someone else.

Bromancipate: All I really said for you was that your post-count was lacking, but you're busy, so I get that. That and jitsu never followed up on something he said. He did however cast suspicion onto balt11t at the end of night 1 when not many people were really focused on him, so ill look elsewhere for mafia for now.

Simberto I've never called scum. I just said his postcount dropping off compared to day 1 was odd. Ill put some thoughts together on him soon.



At this point, I'm interested in a Chocolate lynch, and ill make my mind up on Simberto sometime in the next few hours after i finish reading.

On February 01 2012 09:26 Adam4167 wrote:
Says it right there at the bottom.

+ Show Spoiler +


And since you asked:



and



Good to know you're still reading the thread though.

On February 01 2012 16:46 slOosh wrote:
Ok. This is about Chocolate. Quick skim of his filter demonstrates that he has some experience with mafia and isn't a total newbie playing his first game.

There are nine players in the game.
He puts five as town, two as null & one as mafia for a total of eight reads (plus himself makes nine).

Remember that there are two mafia left (as if town would forget!) and look at his last line.

He only considers Simberto as mafia after night 2 ends and people start openly suspecting Simberto. It is a very passive stance. Notice how he says it. He "seems". Then notice how he says that this is the best current candidate. Ok. So logically he is saying that Simberto, of whom he does not strongly believe is the mafia, is the best candidate in his mind.

So I ask you guys, what is he thinking going into night 2 without any mafia reads???


With this I am leaning much to a Simberto/Chocolate team that is bussing each other so that the other will stand a better chance. With Simberto on the chopping block he drops his thoughts on zelblade and points out Chocolate.

This does mean that Sacred is town. Perhaps he is town suffering from serious tunnel vision. I don't like this but at least he has some thought (doesn't matter how well/poorly reasoned it may be).

Chocolate, with the 0 reads night 2 is a mafia.

On February 02 2012 06:46 Simberto wrote:
Ok, i will go to bed now. I hope i am still alive tomorrow, but if i am not, take a look at what i wrote before with the knowledge that i flipped green.

Also, i think that you need to be a bit more careful in your investigations, it seems to me that some here start an investigation with "he is guilty, how can i prove that?", instead of "is he mafia or town, what can i find out?", which is obviously a pretty bad way to go about things.

On February 01 2012 14:02 SacredSystem wrote:
let me be clear right now my sole focus of suspicion is 100% on zelblade

On February 01 2012 22:48 zelblade wrote:
And wtf do you mean with the 2nd sentance? Are you saying that one of the people who quickly jumped onto simberto day 3 is the DT? (I am assuming that you are refering to a DT check when you say "investigated".

On February 02 2012 07:43 SacredSystem wrote:
non voters and voters of choclate can you please switch your vote over to zelblade
if the non voters switch over we can lynch zelblade, if the voters of chocolate switch over we would need 1 more of a lynch

On February 02 2012 18:26 Adam4167 wrote:
I am ok with the 24/h day cycle.

Chocolate, why are you trying to out our DT? Is it because you realize youre dead tomorrow and you want to give your last teammate a half a chance to win? If they are getting 'guilty' checks back and then building a case from that, it is in your best interest to NOT say anything so he can continue doing his work.

Now that your only mafia suspect has flipped town, where do you suggest we go next? My vote will be heading your way as soon as the sun comes up.

On February 03 2012 07:04 Adam4167 wrote:


A typical response and WIFOM. I say you were looking to rattle the DT into making himself more obvious, so you had confirmation of your shot.

I ask you again, what possible motive could a townie have for even bringing it up?

How does SS flipping red implicate me as mafia?



Sloosh, what has changed your mind about chocolate between this post and this post?

The analysis on Chocolate shows exactly why he is mafia. He has not been doing any work to further this town and he gives one line explanations as to why people are mafia and this is only after he is prodded.