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vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 18 2011 18:09 GMT
#3303
jackal, reread what i said and tell me what you did wrong
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 18 2011 19:49 GMT
#3319
Fuck gg
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 18 2011 19:51 GMT
#3320
I learned a valuable lesson about non themed closed setups and it fucked even one over.

Fucking noob play by me day 2.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 18 2011 20:31 GMT
#3322
no its dont assume align based on same role name
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 18 2011 20:33 GMT
#3323
Gotta say that looking for a scum floridoan to come out would hace been a smart move after a scum joat.

vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 18 2011 22:48 GMT
#3371
On December 19 2011 07:36 Jackal58 wrote:
A bit of advice for the hosts. If you are running a game that has had the time constraints removed from it don't post the day post seconds after mafia sends in their night actions. When Incog did that I knew that town had no night actions remaining.
All I had to do was hope for a vote on somebody that wasn't me at that point. It wasn't really fair to town. You should have waited an hour or two before posting. At least call for night actions. You outed town.


Ya I noticed that the fast night prolly ment that a smart mafai would know that means I had no action.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 19 2011 05:44 GMT
#3443
The sad truh is I made a hidden mistake in how I used my 2nd ability. The night that palmar died I choose to make myself a vet. Ky second choice was to doc Palmar but I didnt factor in his double vote and played with a more selfish choice instrad of the choice that had same random chance to work but gained much more for town.

I tried to recover a bit of use out of my role via wifoming a few RBs at myself. That at least worked.

I made blunderous errors on day regaurding annul thay I personally believe amount to the single most significant mistake of a town player this game. I wont justify that beyond I accidentally was operating on assumed things that were clearly not reasonable in any way to assume. My bad.

I think that raw 6 to 19 numbers of the start played into he mafai being able to risk as many members as it did and still have a viable smart path to victory. In my opinion this didnt come into play due to that they coulda risked one less member and still won but talking balance this high number of riskable players at that point in time offsets the roles given to the game.

I am way too lazy to look at it from a math % chance to win given logical ways it can play out but my mind thinks that number of starting players is as big a deal as the number of blues.

I will be sitting a game or two out as I am moving soon irl and will activily follow whatevwr games occue durinf that with a full obs mode mindset.

gg wp jackal/scum
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 19 2011 10:33 GMT
#3454
Dont worry palmar Ill be jumping right back in when I can. Probably sometime mid january.

I agree that my play was too role focused. It is actually an insightful statement for not because the concept is new but because my play usually lacks as a blue were it is generally good as green or red. Look at my playstyle as scum in the 80 person game that was before this and you will see a playstyle 100% focused on behavior with a bit of helpfullness thrown in.

I have no fear or shame about playing again, I have gotten past that with gaming over a decade ago. So I lost and it was vecause I persinally played poorly. Great! Just means I have a clear path to mentally take to improve. I very much look forward to playing this game much better on my next run here on TL.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 19 2011 11:12 GMT
#3461
On December 19 2011 19:35 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2011 19:33 vaderseven wrote:
I agree that my play was too role focused. It is actually an insightful statement for not because the concept is new but because my play usually lacks as a blue were it is generally good as green or red.


I've never understood this, there is exactly no difference in playing as blue or green, it's 100% exactly the same. Anyone who disagrees is dumb.


I agree.

I am sure this has been touched on but can I get a clear bit of insight on the one item that has botherrd me:

Annul was called scum by many for his claim of being med protected. To me, there is not really a clear logic connection here as it assumes that there wasnt a simple bad med call protecting him.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 19 2011 11:29 GMT
#3465
That makes sense wbg. Especially the part a out day 3 / night 2. My attention to detail was beyond shitty this game.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 19 2011 11:46 GMT
#3467
That was a move I ignored for horrible reasons that palmar nailed already.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 19 2011 15:20 GMT
#3473
Also, I think it does bear pointing out that many people in my situation day 1 would have shot you palmar. I think your play was brilliant day 2 on but day 1 I trully think your decision making was not of the best calibur. Especially choosing to focus on a player like myself who has played enough mafai to be agreesive/assertive but uas not played on TL enough to know the meta of the various players.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 19 2011 21:43 GMT
#3483
On December 20 2011 01:17 Mattchew wrote:
I don't like how there is no longer a filter button.


Yes there is?
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 23 2011 04:19 GMT
#3491
On December 22 2011 04:55 Radfield wrote:
Big thanks to Incognito and Wherebugsgo for hosting this. For my part at least, this was an extremely well run game, and I had a blast. Thanks guys.


Yes, tyty!
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