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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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Kavdragon
United States1251 Posts
It started out with me thinking, Fantasy Starcraft.....Huh. Fantasy Mafia would be funny. I'm going to make up a Fantasy mafia thread, just to troll people. So I did. I was hesitant to post this at first cause thought, "Yes, it's a troll, but I KNOW people will try to get me to do it anyways, and I don't have time". That was almost exactly what happened oddly enough. However, what I realized while reading up on all the replies, is that while I think the fundamental idea of a Fantasy Mafia league is flawed (for reasons I'll try to detail later), I think that some sort of mini-game/betting pool would be an excellent idea. I don't play too often because I don't have time, but I still like to read up occasionally, and I miss Mafia when I don't play it. I have a feeling that several of the older players have similar feelings. The problem with Mafia fantasy league as I presented it is that it's a team game. Individual people aren't responsible for an entire win. Someone could lurk all games as town, while two people carry the team to victory. Should they be awarded the same number of points? No. So how do you go about points then? Without an extremely complicated system, you'll never be able to give people the credit they deserve with. How would you score the awesome associated with a Professor Badass picture, or getting lynched when you've played quite well for town? The only way to figure these things out is with some sort of point system like Ver used at the end of PYP Insane (I think?). And the problem with that is that it necessarily includes the bias of the person who is judging. In short, Mafia is much more complicated than something like Proleague, because it's not just about the win. "But look at the reception!" you say. Yes. That got me thinking. There's a reason why this sounds appealing: Many of us don't have time to play all the time, but want to remain active in some way that doesn't take hours of analyzing. Because of this, I think I'm going to create an Observer's League (name pending). This is a fresh idea in my mind, so I'd love input, but here's the basic idea: The prospect of betting on play and players is exciting for me. (more than just me, as this isn't an original idea). It's a way to stay involved with Mafia when you don't have time to play. I don't know if it can exist in a highly ordered form like Fantasy Proleague, but it can certainly be something more simply, like betting on the number of pages the thread will have at the end of each day/night. It would co-exist with the type of round table discussion that we had a few months ago. The betting/predictions would need to be kept somewhere secret for the duration of the game (i.e., quicktopic), and the results published afterwards. Obviously, no one in the game would be allowed to be involved, and the same rules that apply to observers would apply here. (No leaking info on bets to players and such). So. What do you think of that idea? What sorts of things should be bet on? What information should the observers be given? (Should they know who the scum team is?) Total number of pages at the end of the game Total number of pages on a player's filter at the end of the game Town/Mafia victory Specific player getting misslynched Specific player getting modkilled Number of players modkilled etc. Should there be general categories that everyone votes on, or should it be free form, where people can make any bet they want? A hybrid? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On November 22 2011 02:45 kitaman27 wrote: Just letting any perspective bettors know that I'm certainly not oppossed to match fixing. You uttered the two words which must be avoided! Woe is you, for here comes the pitchfork waving mob! How dare you speak of match fixing! ##Lynch: Kitaman27 | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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TheFerryman
United States39 Posts
On November 22 2011 02:56 Hesmyrr wrote: So where's the mob? We are here! | ||
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BayonnetAnderson
United States60 Posts
Purge the heretic! Kill the mutant! Smite the matchfixer! AMEN! | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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NotChezinu
Zimbabwe61 Posts
On November 22 2011 02:58 BayonnetAnderson wrote: I brought the torches and pitchforks! Mr.Fluffles brought his pitchfork too! | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
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MrFluffles
Belgium1 Post
/wave tiny pitchfork | ||
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Kavdragon
United States1251 Posts
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Kavdragon
United States1251 Posts
On November 22 2011 02:45 kitaman27 wrote: Just letting any perspective bettors know that I'm certainly not oppossed to match fixing. Lol, how would you be able to fix a match. There's only one winning bet: Kitaman fails day 1. Kitaman fails day 2... Unless you have some ability to do, you know, good in a game, there's not much you can do to "fix" the game. =D | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
On November 22 2011 03:45 Kavdragon wrote: Lol, how would you be able to fix a match. There's only one winning bet: Kitaman fails day 1. Kitaman fails day 2... Unless you have some ability to do, you know, good in a game, there's not much you can do to "fix" the game. =D Match fixing is easy if you, say, fill more than 50% of the player roster with smurfs. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On November 21 2011 23:59 Erandorr wrote: What about the MVP vote. Anyone else like that? Happy Birthday Radfield! On November 22 2011 00:10 kitaman27 wrote: Happy Birthday Radfield! On November 22 2011 00:15 GMarshal wrote: Happy Birthday Radfield! This calls for a celebratory nuke ##Nuke: Radfield On November 22 2011 00:16 Palmar wrote: Radfield and RoL share a birthday... This is super suspicious. ♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫ Thanks Guys!! I love my TL birthday because it's always so unexpected! ...and yes, me and RoL were born on the same day, though 5 years apart  | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On November 21 2011 23:42 Palmar wrote: XLIV: That was foolishness's own damn fault. I figured out the entire scumteam that game, I pushed mafia day 1. Did that help? No of course not. Foolishness didn't get his read across, which means it's his own damn fault. Stop making up excuses for people not being able to argue their opinions. Really dude? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
I hope I didn't come across as blaming you for the loss any more than myself. I actually firmly believe that I was the primary reason town lost that game. I was disruptive, annoying and despite my reads being solid I couldn't get town to act on them. But yes, in general, it's always your own fault. You had great reads that game, better than mine, but that's completely useless if you can't convince town on them. Even if town is retarded, then it's your responsibility to use retard-proof-logic to get them on your side. I failed miserably at that. You had slightly more success, but ultimately not enough was done, and town lost. I refer to my earlier rants in the miscellaneous mafia thread (just filter me) if you want perspective on this view of mine. I disagree with Ace that "sometimes you just can't carry bad towns", because for every retarded town that doesn't accept logic and fails, there's scum somewhere who is pushing terrible logic and convincing town with it. It's similar to poker. You can't apply high level play to a bunch of terrible newbies, you have to adapt. | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
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