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cyber - the usual "my scum play is bad" Murray (foolishness) - not sure if troll, or just stupid risk.nuke - doesn't talk about how he will mayor powers wiggles - no platform for campaign bumatlarge - does not understand that mayor does not control town Murray - no platform for campaign | ||
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On January 14 2012 01:59 Kurumi wrote: 1. kingjames01 2. Refallen 3. supersoft 4. Slardar 5. risk.nuke 6. kitaman27 - Maybe vet but not sure. Plays quite good both alingments 7. Cyber_Cheese 8. Jayjay54 9. Kenpachi - lurks a lot, sucks a lot, shoots scum a lot. (vet?) 10. Munk-E 11. EchelonTee 12. Adam4167 13. Mattchew 14. Liquid`Sheth 15. L Shit son. 16. Meapak_Ziphh Same thing as Foolishness. 17. ~OpZ~ 18. wherebugsgo 19. BrownBear Damn.. was he good scum? Can't even remember. 20. Ciryandor 21. Bill Murray known for distruptive and puzzling behaviour 22. rgTheSchworz 23. Foolishness Can't think of anything because he always played minor role when he played with me ._. 24. Toadesstern 25. Jackal58 Known for short posting style and likes to tunnel a bit. Good. 26. d3_crescentia 27. BloodyC0bbler Fear him. 28. Lanaia 29. Kurumi 30. blahz0r 31. VisceraEyes - people say he improved a lot, idk personally 32. GGQ rarely plays but mostly does well as town 33. sandroba Maybe not the amazing-amazing, but he's very good as town. 34. Jitsu 35. zeks 36. Mr. Wiggles 37. igabod 38. Palmar - very good overall, active and likes to bite 39. Erandorr 40. p4NDemik 41. GiygaS 42. evantrees 43. Chaosquo 44. Protactinium (Mystlord/Incognito) Incognito tends to die quite quickly, he was one of the reasons PYPI was won by the Town 45. Macpo 46. rtgICEMAN 47. Maxella 48. bumatlarge - he has his good moments, like being a Good Bad Santa. 49. Scamp 50. Nisani201 Thereotically new, but good (without colour) Amazing town capabilities Very good scum play Veteran any ideas to those might be good remember zodiac lists? I only remember the name of that strat lol Anyway, the thing is we should get lists like "Good ol' players" which prove to be quite useful when somehow there are two out of 6 left standing and they're beginning to look scummy. Heh, maybe one day I'll be regarded as a veteran. | ||
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On January 14 2012 02:03 Kurumi wrote: Nisani, why You active lurk? Maybe You at least have those fun graphs regarding everyone? No, I just finished reading through the thread and now I can start talking. I stopped making node graphs a while ago | ||
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I however am really starting to like Sandroba. He is making a lot of sense, and the fact that he is aggressively pushing for mass mason claim (which I support) makes him seem town to me. | ||
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However I would like to see him post more. | ||
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On January 14 2012 12:17 Mattchew wrote: If he is scum and I am town, why would he endorse me? If we are both scum, do you think scum team or even me and him would call this attention? I even posted our entire pm convo. If I am scum and he is town, do you think scum would a. mason me and b. let me pm one of the best townies? most likely If we are both town, we are trying to elect a townie This isnt that hard of logic. Think it through fully This is all WIFOM. | ||
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Bill Murray is definitely best choice for mayor. He is making a lot of sense and I am starting to like his case on Sandroba. Sandroba hasn't followed up much on his candidacy which makes me feel weird about maintaining my vote on him (also, he he has no chance of winning the election ) Proactinium wants to kill Macpo because Macpo is being apologetic. That case is weak; when I was a noob I was also apologetic. He has a much more in-depth case on BC, but doesn't want to lynch BC. This seems a bit weird to me. FoS on the 3 people who voted WBG. FoS on L for asking VE who he wants to shoot. | ||
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On January 15 2012 10:59 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't need an explicitly written case just because someone who I think is scum asks for one. I really don't understand what mafia players attempt to accomplish when they insist there's no case on them and then demand one. It's just a waste of time. Which, I suppose, is a win for you. You love wasting time as scum. Cases don't become invalid because they use meta. | ||
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Anyways, WBG, a case based entirely on meta IS invalid. If Palmar acts like this in D2, we can treat him like a lurker. We should all expect scumhunting from him tomorrow, but until then, the case on him is stupid. | ||
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That's why we should keep an eye on him on D2. | ||
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On January 15 2012 11:15 wherebugsgo wrote: it's pointless to scumhunt d1? Yeah, let's just fucking waste all the time we have day 1 because we don't want to play the game of mafia, AKA FIND THE SCUM AND KILL THEM. this is fucking ridiculous. On D1, electing the right mayor is MUCH more important than finding scum. | ||
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BC, Sandroba, and Ciryandor are much better candidates that have a much better chance of flipping scum than Palmar. | ||
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In other news, I don't think that WBG is scum. His case against Palmar met a lot of (valid) opposition but he kept pushing it, which is very town (especially for WBG), and a scum WBG would have backed off. | ||
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What is there to talk about anyways? | ||
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Protactinium was heavily against Ciryandor D1. So you might be wondering, would Protactinium bus one of his teammates? That is what this analysis will prove. Protactinium begins by running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. But there is no way that Protactinium actually had a case against Ciryandor this early. Especially since, at the time Protactinium wrote that, Ciryandor only had one post in the game. So from this we can deduce that Protact is either bad town, or scum. Now look at his next post. On January 14 2012 02:47 Protactinium wrote: What does this post do? Ciryandor does not attempt to clarify his earlier position or attempt to bring us into mutual understanding. Instead, he mockingly attempts to discredit me by misrepresenting my statement and reframing it in a way that paints him in a favorable light. I never say that I want to lynch him for having an opinion, I called bullshit on his statement that Mr. Wiggles has the best campaign. Seriously, if you really believe what you said, tell us why you thought Mr. Wiggles had the best campaign. Furthermore, Ciryandor initially states that: While Ciryandor says that he wants to hear good reasons for Wiggles/Cyber_Cheese running, he makes no attempt to draw out information from Wiggles even though it is clear that they are both online (they are both posting until page 24). Instead, he loosely dismisses my accusations as well as GGQ's, and proceeds to babble nonsense about Foolishness and Bill Murray. Ciryandor is twisting my words. Ciryandor is bullshitting that Wiggles has the best campaign. Ciryandor shows no further interest in extracting information about Wiggles' campaign despite claiming he wanted good reasons. Ciryandor continues to babble on about useless topics (Bill Murray) after giving a strange reaction to my/GGQ's accusations. I've noticed that a lot of players are omitting my campaign for mayor in their lists of people running for mayor. But I'm not trolling. I am seriously running for mayor on the platform of lynching Ciryandor. Instead of asking for reasoning on support for Wiggles' campaign, Protact immediately asserts that Ciryandor is scum. He also asserts that Ciryandor is twisting his words, which is bullshit. In addition, he is trying to discredit Wiggles' campaign, because he knew that Wiggles is town. He doesn't post until 13 pages later (understandable, since we are all in different timezones). During this 13 page period, BC claims mason and the town is abuzz with mason discussion and whatnot. In the post, he attacks BC for "contradicting himself". Afterwards, he demonstrates how BC had a consistent point of view when backing up his opinions...! He attacks BC for "subtly" wanting to shun all mason activity. So you be the judge. Do you think this is subtle? On January 14 2012 05:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I am fine with either it, or having town just say "we ignore all pms that arent host pms" Making every mason accountable / making them useless to prevent manipulation seems the best play at the moment. making them all claim however is the optimal play, it may out the group of us, but it also prevents mafia from using their ability without being in the spotlight. Protact calls this mafia bias, but in reality, this is just BC giving his opinion. If you want to talk about subtlety, Protact is subtly hinting that any opinions that go against his are mafia bias. The next part of the analysis: On January 14 2012 11:46 Protactinium wrote: So what is the scenario for BC being red and pushing his mason claim? BC is in fact red, and can use the mason power (chooses it for himself early in the day). As a town mason would, BC picks a mason target and starts talking to them. Once he gets the town to agree to ban masons, he is off the hook, and doesn't have to worry about PMs anymore. More specifically, he doesn't have to worry about town PMs. Like stated before, mafia BC plays a powerhouse thread control style. By banning PMs, BC doesn't lose out on much (he admits he isn't a heavy PM user), and nerfs Foolishness, sandroba, and my abilities to play a PM centric game (which we are known for). And that's what is the difference between this game and XLII (the game he refers to when he says he dominates with only 1-2 PMs). Foolishness and I are playing in this game, and are real threats. BC wants to shut down PMs before it starts, and he doesn't have to give up much information or lie at all in order to do it. This post does not discuss the scenario in which BC is town. BC already provided good reasons as to why shunning masons is a good idea. With masons this game, there is distrust on both sides. Furthermore, he has not followed up on his campaign promise: "I will question, analyze and call out all those who play in what I view as bad town/mafia like. (I have already done this with foolishness, he knows better)." Ok, so maybe he called out Foolishness yesterday, but where is the scumhunting today? Its non-existent, because BC is too busy derailing the thread with mason discussions instead of scumhunting. What is even more interesting is the timing of his initial claim post. It comes an hourish after my second post against Ciryandor, which conveniently most people except for sandroba and sheth have ignored. In the next post, he takes some quotes from BC and asserts that he is not trying to hunt scum. But this is not true. BC was actively calling out people; Protact just didn't include it in the analysis. + Show Spoiler [superlong bc quotes] + On January 14 2012 02:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote: As you are really the only person to respond to me about my campaign I am delighted to respond and hopefully remove your doubts of me. As you point out my post is "weird". You make note of how I am "pointing out that i am good". Rather I am pointing out I will be active. There is an extreme difference and anyone who has seen responsibility will know what I mean as I pretty well was inactive and posted the bare minimum. As for the "i voted last time because people said hes took dangerous and insta lose if hes scum" you are missing the core bit of that game where I actively argued with people over fear mongering as what someones potential alignment is without a solid reason (no analysis) is not a valid reason to deny votes. This has not happened this game as everyone thus far seems to be running on their own merit as opposed to talking down fellow candidates. As for the current thread. Palmar makes statement. The last big game that was run Palmar got mayor and I got sheriff. Palmar hardcore ran that game, and invested a huge amount of his time into the game. For him to outright say "i have no intention of running for mayor" he would have been able to stop and seem like a fine post. But continuing with "or caring much about mayor elections" is where he comes off horribly wrong. He as shown in the past to care heavily about elections and the active pushing for towns to succeed. He then throws his support behind a player based on "how dumb they might be" over a reason like "I believe x is a solid candidate" or "I am voting for x because i believe they have solid scum hunting" etc.... It comes off as very curt and unlike the palmar I have personally played with in the past. wtf is this post? Your post is nothing if not confrontational without saying anything important. You attack someone earlier for not adding things to the discussion of the thread however you fail to do so here. You want to be elected yet your primary posting style at the moment is to make a massive quote post with 1 line explaining your take on a specific quote. In some cases, 1 word. This is not the behaviour indicative of someone the town would want to lead them. To quote you "I haven't shown off my town prowess on this forum yet, so I don't have any epic winning streaks to brag about. Suffice it to say votes on me aren't misplaced" As the way you are playing now all votes on your are misplaced. You are not posting in a manner that is inherently decent. You are not posting frequently with decent contented posts to get a solid read on you. You are not actively attempting to assert a mark on the role that puts you in a spotlight for good reasons. You are in a spotlight because you are insanely shifty in the eyes of many players. EVERYONE should not be voting cybercheese unless he turns his game around now. Even if he is townie and he is insanely good he should know that his posts at the moment are terrible and are not ones that indicate the qualities someone who would be a good leader. As for my take on the other candidates. At the moment I am willing to get behind either meapak, BM, or bumatlarge. of the current people running, each of them has shown they can be active, make intelligent posts, and have clear ones that help get a general read on them. Everyone should be giving their take on who of the current candidates would make the best mayor. This way we can lower the total people "running" by taking the top 3 or 4 choices and voting as opposed to having 7-8 people running. On January 14 2012 05:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote: so? I confirm my role not my alignment. I have openly said it never clears the alignment of who I mason. How is this an issue? You knew this going in. I have a confirmable role not alignment. I said that in my first fucking post on this matter. I put myself in a hotseat all to out the potential butt fucking the mafia would give. As for your WIFOM shit, i never once said you can confirm people I mason, you proposed that. You created your own argument on something I never said. Town should base their read on someone based on how they act in thread, not on the knowledge of "a mason mason'd this guy so hes legit/scum yo" You will get a town read on me based on my actions. If i mason a scum, in pms he slips up and he dies and flips red because i outed his slip up I look better than I do now but am no way confirmed. If i do it multiple times maybe. Where did I say that i am confirmable alignment? where did I say the person i mason is confirmable. My role is nothing else is. I still have to prove my alignment via posts just like everyone else. I am merely opting to fubar the mafia while im at it. On January 14 2012 15:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Hi incog, and as you didn't tag who you were I will say it again.. Hi incognito How do I know its you? I have never talked to mystlord. I am glad your third game post of the thread is once again a "i am running on the campaign of lynch this player" it gives nothing on yourself and yet people think you are doing something commendable. You ignore all game discussion and opt to push your own agenda to off players. I am impressed good sir. However, you fail to realize that I am not being the lazy bored me, I am actually playing. As for your analysis? Laughable. You make the claim of "bc has said he rarely pms as read and heavy pms as town" guess what? I have talked to opz before i wandered off to work, and the person I mason'd with Sandroba. As the only current way to talk to more is by having another mason mason me I am far more active than a mafia me would who would never use my ability to begin with. I will now quote the bit of my own words you attempted to use against me. On January 28 2011 06:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Private Messaging This feature has been in a fair number of TL games. It is also an amazing tool if used properly. However, if it is not used properly, the mafia will abuse it and potentially win. They are also a function if used improperly will cause people to feel left out and like they don’t matter as players. Pm’s can and do make people elitist in games. IF Pm’s are allowed in a game they should be used properly. Role fishing, small analysis groups, alignment testing. Role fishing is straightforward so I will not go into it at this time. Small analysis groups. These groups need not be large, as you only need a few heads to flesh out analysis on people. It also means that if a red is in your group, it is easier to catch them, and it keeps the other groups safe from infiltration. Alignment testing. This is posting in a way to let you carefully analyze reactions. Townies are more inclined to answer in one way and mafia/blues another. Sometimes this will be obvious such as catching someone lying to you in pm’s or lying in thread. Other times this will be noticing subtle word choices. Regardless of how you opt to use the tool, if you do not feel comfortable in your ability to use them properly do not use them and play the game via the thread. Ask for detail from Ace on this, as he dislikes the PM feature. Notice the bolded section near the top, you know, the amazing tool if used properly? How about we continue reading to where i state it is not used properly and mafia abuse it to win. You and I both know that discussions have occurred between yourself, myself, ver, qatol, fw, foolishness and others over a large course of time about how town fail at using pms. My ability to use the mechanic is not the issue at hand. I do not anyone outside of a small core group of players to properly use the function, as such pushing for it to be something not used in general or heavily scrutinized is by far the best play. Can you honestly say based on the current claims that you feel mathchew is a player who can competently maneuver around pms without proper guidance? (not meant at a real jab at you matt, but you are newer and as such not someone I personally would want wandering unattended in the pm land). You and I both also know that reading people or catching people with pms is a skill that requires practice and takes time to learn. Only certain players on this site truly excel at them. Everyone else generally have proven over the last year that in most cases, town should not be in pm's period. I do appreciate that you are gunning for people, but you know just as well as I do that masons who are only able to talk to 1 person once over 1 day cycle when unexperienced in that field is a detriment to the town, not a positive. If you refuse to admit to this then we both know your scum alignment. As for subtle pushing against using masons? I can't decide for everyone. I have already said my bit and cant push this. By actively bringing it to the plate to even talk about I am forcing the issue What I also find amusing is you concentrate on my mafia style play but ignore my town style play which is near identical (as you well know) where the differences are pushing mafia or town objectives. You claim that I must be mafia for I take thread control etc.. As a note incog. Are mafia really that afraid of me removing their tool from the game that they sent you of all people to deal with me? You know just as well as I do that pms in experienced hands are usually detrimental to the town and know that even with guides and performances of towns as a whole pms cause more trouble than good. Anyone voting for protract at the moment needs to be seriously looked at. On January 14 2012 16:41 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 14 2012 16:32 Mattchew wrote: A. You are wrong. I think the shear volume of posts about foolishness, palmar, L (who hasn't even posted) and other vets not trying for mayor proves this. People will listen to vets and those who are most vocal, regardless of whether or not they are mayor. Also, I don't care for the people trying to scrap by doing the bare minimum, fuck them, to quote flamewheel You are basically giving people an excuse to sheep the mayor. What the hell is that. My priority is getting 2 town elected officials. This is by far and away the best thing we can do on day 1. The mayor basically is a 3 power jack, with a dayvig shot, 2 extra votes and 2 bodyguards. Putting a scum member (regardless of how pro-town their campaign is) is terrible for town. This is why I have done everything logically under the sun to prove that I am town. And will vote for the person I believe to be most town running alongside me. Giving people an excuse? I am stating mere observations about previous games. You can put in a warning of how people will be punished for being inactive jerkwads and they will still do it. Shit happens in peoples lives, they get a role they dont want and skirt by doing the minimum, etc... I am not giving an excuse for them I am stating a simple observation, people sheep. People tend to sheep those in power. Do people also listen to players such as myself, L, Palmar and the like if they aren't elected? Yes, but people typically elect these players to keep them alive longer. The skillset that a vet carries is why vets more typically run for elections. Long term those skillsets if on a townie player are a huge benefit to keep around, and if it is a red there is a higher chance of catching them as the mayor is expected to be active and a good player is expected to perform at a certain level. If the person running is unable to perform at the required level it is effectively giving a townie who will just follow someone elses choice powers that they shouldnt have. If they are heavily listening to the vets, give vets the extra shite. If you want to step up and stand on your own two feet do so. Think of being the mayor the leader of a country. You must have solid thread prescense. Keeping yourself alive with your role (a role i firmly believe you should not be using after today), is not say as good as a newer player with a dt or med role getting it. I am not condoning either of those roles claiming but you get the idea. The mason role is something an experienced player theoretically could use effectively and warrant getting elected while possessing it but I personally believe no one should sit in pms. Mafia choose who on their team gets to be a mason, whereas hosts rng who got it for town. Regardless the mafia have 10 heads to properly work on who to mason and which approach to take while a newer player has his own thoughts. On January 14 2012 16:44 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 14 2012 16:41 Cyber_Cheese wrote: BC was talking about ignoring PM's completely, and he's been wishy washy on whether he's keen on all the masons claiming. On January 14 2012 05:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I am fine with either it, or having town just say "we ignore all pms that arent host pms" Making every mason accountable / making them useless to prevent manipulation seems the best play at the moment. making them all claim however is the optimal play, it may out the group of us, but it also prevents mafia from using their ability without being in the spotlight. How about you read what I say and properly reflect it. I prefer ignoring pms and deciding that masons be ignored, but in the case no one agrees with that then mass claim so town knows who to heavily watch in pms. Everyone being on the same playing field is far more advantaegous than a minority playing with a different hand. On January 15 2012 03:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 15 2012 03:00 VisceraEyes wrote: How does the fact that I pulled out of the elections make me more suspicious? And did you completely ignore my plea for help regarding my mason situation? Or do you not care because now I'm suspicious? You as a former candidate go out of your way to encourage people to withdraw votes based on a lie. You can say you misread my post which potentially believable due to its length I find unlikely. If people were actively waiting for a piece of information then my large posts theoretically should be read carefully for said information. You are not like jay who has been on my nuts all game. Had you chosen to encourage people to not vote for me as I claimed mason and had solid reasons behind it then I would see you as more townlike, as it would also be discrediting another player with the same claim. By opting to instead cherry pick one candidate over the other I see an inconsistancy. I say this as you made mention before in thread that you had reservations of electing me before as my alignment with my role was not provable (minus a lynching obviously), however this issue would be near identical to another mason and had you kept with that line of thinking as two masons were in the running I would have understood. Singling me out however, via incorrect information, is why you are on my list. On January 15 2012 03:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 15 2012 03:06 Mattchew wrote: Because my posting, my logic, and the lack of cases against me (other than slippery slope highly unlikely situations) make me far more townie than BC is. Incorrect. We would be if nothing else equal playing ground. You used my initial claim to play off of foolishness to make a power play at an elected slot using your role. I have openly stated that I would not be surprised or expect to get in because of my claim. In short I expect if i was elected it would be off my ability, not my role. You run was purely something you did via "im a confirmed townie" because of your role. The "cases" against you were that just because you are a mason does not make you confirmed town. You have been transparent with your pms yes, in which you have a townie who is helping you openly admit that bm is easily controllable and you are taking advice from him. IE you are also easily controllable. I am very hesitant to want someone elected that foolishness supports when his main reason admitted in a pm to you was an ability to control bm. Do you think he would support you if it was any different? Why would a vet player want someone in office he can manipulate/control instead of himself. And jesus, I totally just stumbled across that thought in help of one of L's earlier posts. Does anyone have a solid reason why it is advantageous to have an elected official in office you can manipulate/control instead of running yourself? If you are controlling/manipulating wouldn't that suggest you are more sure of your own ability to play and should be running rather than ducking responsibility? On January 15 2012 03:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 15 2012 03:11 VisceraEyes wrote: I just don't want you to be mayor! You're fucking scary! And you've claimed a role that if you're scum you can rape my asshole with (as proven!) Don't give me any of your "cherry-pick one candidate over another" bullshit! I know what you can do with PMs! You USED ME IN YOUR CAMPAIGN! You're NOT going to be mayor! isn't this a complete contradiction to. On January 14 2012 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote: I found Foolish's campaign to be both hilarious and appropriate and will support either BM or BC today. I still think people should vote for me, but the general consensus seems to be that I'm not experienced enough, which is totally fair. I don't think I'm totally out of the running though, so I'm not going to withdraw quite yet...but expect me to withdraw if I don't get any more support by 12 hours to deadline. near nothing new has appeared since this post aside from potentially incogs tunnel of me in which he incorrectly states an opinion. However, you never give your opinion on that post of his, just instead say your reading it and then reading my posts. Note how he never returned to even respond to me? There are two people on one name, and neither has appeared. You're reason to then push against me was debunked. If you don't want someone in office build a real case, dont make fake ones. On January 15 2012 03:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 15 2012 03:26 Mattchew wrote: scenario is broken because i pm'd foolishness before you outed yourself. I don't see Foolishness as a strong town read. I would lean towards town if a gun was to my head but I still want to hear a lot more from him. without timestamps we have your word to take for that. Is that likely? Yes, however, your run for mayor was timed AFTER my claim. You're role + my claim in open prompted you to think of running for mayor. This is mafia, any situation is possible. Just because you can say "well im new do you think I would do that?" You know what? If you have a good player or players on your team as scum, a new player isn't going to be that bad as they can coach said player while using the "im new card" to explain minor mistakes. My argument is that you are no more confirmed town than I am. On January 15 2012 04:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote: On January 15 2012 04:46 Liquid`Sheth wrote: I'm voting for Protactinium for Mayor at the moment. He has what I believe to have been the best case for Mayor. If I had to decide the first lynch, I'd probably make it a town affair and get everyone's opinions on who they wanted to lynch and then decide based on what that information gave me. so the belief you have for deciding a lynch is via discussion and town consensus but you are voting for a player who has made 0 posts aside from saying he would kill ciryandor if elected or kill me if elected. so You are actually in favour of having someone lynched with 0 discussion as you are strictly following the most inactive of all the candidates who sole stance currently is lynching me. contradiction On January 15 2012 05:02 BloodyC0bbler wrote: VE, if you really are a jack, your fucking stupid unless you clarified before you claimed that jacks can dayvig. ... His next post: On January 15 2012 08:45 Protactinium wrote: On January 15 2012 08:37 rgTheSchworz wrote: So confused at the moment. Have the feeling we're going nowhere, even worse, several of our blues have blundered. I'm gonna vote BM, as Sandroba has the highest chance of being scum out of potential candidates.His posts have been weird enough, he runs for mayor then isnt particularly active or scum-hunting,some of his posts like the one with the eagle landing on his arm disturbed me. I'll keep an eye on the following: Risk.nuke, Palmar. I feel palmar still has a role to play. Don't lynch him day1, maybe day 2 if he continues like that. The whole mason thing started by BC was useless in my opinion.50/50 chance of being mafia/town. Bollocks, they're maybe more town masons than mafia, maybe less. You can't know that, unless maybe.. you have external information. Also, as sandro is suspicious and BC had made a sort of a deal with him, my feelings about this persona shall remain mixed at best. When the town isn't going anywhere, look for mafia interference. I clearly have been trying to give some direction to this thread, so there isn't really the excuse that the town is just newb and doesn't know what to do. Furthermore, this game isn't like some others where 2 mistaken townies pollute the thread by attacking each other on pretty thin grounds. If you look at the thread as a whole, you probably will only be able to find 1 player who really sticks out of the discussion, and that's BC. If you agree that the town isn't going anywhere, the question should be why. BC has steered the course of the discussion for the most part of this day, despite only having around 5% of the total game posts. While I have no problem with someone having this few amount of posts, an examination of BC's posts shows that he has created more confusion and unanswered questions than answers and direction. The conclusion is that the mafia are interfering with the town's attempt to find clarity. In other words, the game has a mafia-favored atmosphere. As you know, my thesis is that BloodyC0bbler is at the bottom of it. This is utter bullshit. Good discussion was going on, and Protactinium dismisses it as having "no direction" and mafia interference. The next post is an analysis on Macpo. I have a null read on Macpo; I don't think it's fair to base an analysis entirely on his tone, but he's still not off the hook. But this is more interesting: On January 15 2012 10:07 Protactinium wrote: Yes I'm lynching Macpo if elected. Protact just made a huge deal about how BC is scum. And now he wants to switch over to Macpo? This doesn't seem right. Protact doesn't post much during the night. But during the day, he says this: On January 16 2012 12:25 Protactinium wrote: HEY GUESS WHO FLIPPED MAFIA Sandroba is obviously innocent now. ##Vote Macpo WTF? He provides no reasoning, and what he says doesn't even make sense. This means that he must have some information that town doesn't have. [b]IN CONCLUSION, Protactinium was heavily bullshitting the town in order to get a mayor spot. He is scum and should die. ##Vote: Protactinium | ||
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On January 17 2012 06:35 Protactinium wrote: For an explanation on BC, I changed my mind after realizing it is just possible for him to be bad town. Macpo/Ciryandor were better targets anyway. This is just flat out wrong. You dont need a lot of posts to tell that someone is mafia. Ciryandor was bullshitting about Wiggles having the best campaign. Thats it! Mafia trying to make something out of nothing right there. I don't need pages and pages of spam to prove someone is mafia. All it takes is a few posts to show they're making stuff up because they're not town. Strangely enough you think that my early accusation means I am bad or mafia. Lol. On the contrary, it just means I'm good. I didn't need followup questions. The rest of his posts revealed his colors without the need for questioning. Why would a scum use bullshit to support a townie campaign? | ||
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First of all, I no longer think Protact is scum. Bill Murray has churned out a large amount of bullshit (he makes WAY too many statements where he slips in the fact that he is implied town for it to be coincidental; he's doing it on purpose) in the past day, and I can't see him being town anymore. As such, I will ##Vote: Bill Murray. I also think Sandroba is scum. He has faded away from the case against him and I don't trust him much. ##Vote: Sandroba | ||
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On January 20 2012 14:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I guess you didn't read it then lol. If you had you'd know those are two supporting tenets not the main idea. OK then fine, you're calling him out for being consistent and pressuring against Protact... Chainsaw much? | ||
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Murray is still obvious scum. Why isn't he dead already? ##Vote: Bill Murray | ||
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On January 23 2012 09:10 rgTheSchworz wrote: I think here supersoft is showing scumsigns.Bc and Foolishness I do suspect, partly because of meta on foolish, he's normally very active as town, and a great town player. This game he has done almost nothing. BC/Foolish are getting too much credit because of Protact right now. Furthermore,unjudgeable means 80% town/20% scum, it's really not profitable to get rid of people randomly. If they're not active they're gonna get modkilled anyway. The solution would be to put the pressure onto these kind of guys,make them post relevant stuff so they can make mistakes. Supersoft looks very scum to me. Why does that post make him scummy? | ||
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On January 23 2012 13:05 Bill Murray wrote: FW just informed me I got my bomb back from GGQ I didnt realize he died I guess I was wrong on him that is pretty much proof im town though if you think about it Surprise, surprise, another person making a random conclusion based on bullshit. ...or maybe I'm just crazy. Enlighten me, why does this prove that you're town? | ||
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On January 23 2012 22:54 Bill Murray wrote: If I was mafia, I would have substituted both bodyguards, and killed BC Is BC dead? No. Because I can't kill anyone. Erm, what? BC is mayor. You couldn't kill him even if you wanted to. | ||
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'Cause the desert had turned to sea There were plants and birds and rocks and things there was sand and hills and rings The ocean is a desert with it's life underground And a perfect disguise above Under the cities lies a heart made of ground But the humans will give no love | ||
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Why should you vote me for mayor? Because: -I have a winning record of town, and I am fucking horrible at scum (for an example of this read Merc Mini Mafia) -I will make a node graph for town and release it after every day -I already have amazing reads on some people. Which brings me to the next thing... If elected, I will lynch Protactinium. Protactinium has shown major slips this game, such as this gem: On January 22 2012 06:26 Protactinium wrote: Disagree here. I don't see why Meapak is a strong case yet. I'm sticking with Bill Murray OpZ bumatlarge Don't see wbg either. His play fits his town play more than mafia even if he is wrong a lot. Then go on to inactives. I don't think Kenpachi is red based on L's statements suggesting that Kurumi shot Ciryandor. I'm going to guess that L truly did think Kurumi would shoot Kenpachi, and thus didn't roleblock him that night, but it backfired (nobody else claimed the Ciryandor shot). L also was pushing Kenpachi strangely, so it doesn't fit strongly in my book. evantrees feels town to me for his earlier response to my accusation. It feels pretty spontaneous and unplanned. Everyone else is fair game. Bill Murray dies tomorrow, and we vote for double lynch. OpZ and bumatlarge die the next day. We cannot let someone with these reads be set free. So vote Nisani201 for mayor. Don't delay, the SCUM will get you if you don't! I will also be supporting the campaign of Bill Murray, because Groundhog Day was an awesome movie. | ||
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