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On July 26 2011 00:39 DropBear wrote: Ok I may as well cop the penalty. Mafia now knows who shot youngminii and all his abilities so I have to come out and save him now. I made the Tim Roth role. Supersoft is Tim Roth. He only gets one kill. His kill causes his alignment and role abilities to be PMd to everyone of the opposite alignment to him. I didn't get that PM so supersoft is now 100% confirmed to be town. His other ability is an alignment check, which activates if you get into a 3 each quote convo with him i.e. you post, he quotes, you quote the quote until there is 3 each. I would suggest forcing people to quote him. Not everyone at once though as it would shit up the thread something shocking. I don't understand your thinking here. Why, at the time of the post, did you presume mafia shot YM and then go on to say you've to come out and save "him"? | ||
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On July 26 2011 04:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I suggest no one quotes supersoft and no one votes for kurumi. Based on how Kurumi is playing, his power seems to require votes instead of fistbumps like palmar from last ptp. Supersoft's power we are told operates via quote levels. how about we don't give two people access to their powers? How about we kill jackal or, each player with an item asks if they can destroy it (as well harry breaks the wand, gets rid of the stone and only keeps the cloak in the books). Letting people run loose with powers when we have no actual confirmed alignment of them is just a bad move. Limit people from acting until they are verified. Supersoft just killed mafia and another person confirmed his role. Unless you think this is some absurd gambit by mafia and they are all 3 (supersoft,dropbear,tackster) red, how can you possibly argue against supersoft using his alignment checks? Is this some posting restriction because that makes little sense | ||
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On July 26 2011 04:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Super soft is likely not red as he killed a red, you are correct. That does not exclude him from being third party however. Also note, drop bear claimed the role of what tim roth was before super soft came forward. IT forced him forward as he was forced out in the open. Based on how the role was used we can extrapolate that dropbear and supersoft are most likely not of the same alignment (unless town, but then dropbears ability must have been total shit to warrant activating his penalty). As supersoft was forced to use his role he might be red, but more than likely he is third party or town. We gained no information on drop bear other than he was willing to risk a penalty for outing SS. This doesn't give any information upon his role. Until such a time as any of them have confirmed their innocence I would prefer to keep as many people as possible from using their abilities. Do we seriously need another day vig or the like going rampant without input from anyone? According to the alleged role description, Supersoft's role and identity would have been sent to the whole mafia team if he had been behind the initial YM hit. "Forcing him to come forward" makes perfect sense as town gains more information, supersoft becomes a semiconfirmed townie (read the role) and Dropbear willing to the take penalty makes him look very townish. It turns out he wasn't behind the hit, but that's only because there was another bizarre role in the game. There's a small chance that supersoft is a third party, but even then his role is what he claims as Dropbear confirmed it. | ||
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On July 26 2011 04:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote: ...... Are you dense? I as red have killed my own members before. It builds credibility. So yes we know he killed a mafia, after someone said "i made his role and its this" not before. The person who did this made the claim to put FoS on SS. So if they were both red, DB wouldn't have said a thing. If SS is red and called out, he has to respond or get lynched. Using information caused from a forced from a situation where you live or die does not confirm the player. It may confirm the role, but not the player. Role does not equal alignment. Had SS killed trackster before being called out I would more likely buy he is town, had DB not thought he instantly had to out SS there are enough variables that you want to not risk activating powers of players you cannot confirm at this point. So you are admitting the role is likely confirmed. What exactly will mafia/third party supersoft do with his alignment checking role that town is forcing him to use? At worst we will be mislead, but we are always free to ignore his checks. At best he gives us red today. There's no risk at all unless it's a gambit and they are ALL red. | ||
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On July 26 2011 06:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Thats because you guys are straight up not thinking. I am being logical, concise, and most importantly I am thinking on a level beyond "herp derp we got a blue". If I was red, why would I argue against his checks? Why would I throw myself into the fire of this nonsense and try to fix an obvious error in town judgement. Use your damn heads. Take a step back from the general "hes an alignment dt" and seriously think of motivations behind all sides for the move, how it benefits each side, which side benefits the most from all perspectives, etc... Town is almost always at the bottom of the list. His checks will hurt us more than help us at this point in time. No, you are being intentional obtuse; no one ever argued that we should trust his checks until there's further confirmation of his alignment. You kept changing your argument over and over again and now you are finally making some sense. You are just one of those players who can never admit to being wrong. | ||
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On July 26 2011 07:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Really? If I am mafia or sk it would be a perfect bet for them. 1 random player to take down someone almost everyone in the game would mistrust or want dead if not on their team. How isn't that a good bet. Don't take a solid stance off faulty logic if you're afraid of the backlash. Because the alignment of someone else is never confirmed until they are lynched while I know my alignment? Even if, hypothetically, there's a 10% chance of you not flipping red, it's a bad bet. It's much better to just lynch you without taking it. | ||
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