It makes no sense for mafia to fake role PM like that as it could only lead to town lynching ON and confirming his alignment. I'm more inclined to believe the whole alignment thing in the PM is a red herring or that he is third party.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 25 2011 08:53 GMT

#434

Also consider the subtleties of the role you created. If the person you picked the role for isn't utilizing (for instance by not doing anything at all or not warning the town about some dangerous aspect of the role) the role in a pro-town manner and you can't think of a good reason for it, he is probably not town aligned. Since revealing who you created the role for triggers a penalty, it should be only used as a last resort when you are certain the person in question is scum, or possibly to prevent a mislynch. Rather it's preferable to simply build a convincing case.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 25 2011 09:09 GMT

#436

Regarding penalty triggers, I think there's a decent chance that lurking could be one of them. Don't lurk. It's quite possible some penalties turn your role uncontrollable or otherwise dangerous.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 25 2011 09:29 GMT

#438

Pretty sure you people pushing jackal aren't this gullible/blind, but rather not town aligned

Care to explain why mafia jackal would reveal his role immediately, knowing ON's real aligned and what will likely happen when ON flips town

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 25 2011 09:38 GMT

#443

On July 25 2011 18:36 Palmar wrote:
He needs to die Syllo, if not now, then at least before lylo, that's why I'm calling for a day-vig hit.

No he doesn't; if anything, this makes him look less likely to be mafia than the people pushing for his lynch.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 25 2011 09:47 GMT

#446

On July 25 2011 18:41 Palmar wrote:

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How the hell doesn't he?

One thing you should notice when re-reading Jackal's posts is that he was in no hurry to get ON lynched, probably because he already knew how ON would flip. He casually mentions ON possibly being 3rd party, but no vote or pressure or anything.

Had he been "in no hurry to get ON lynched", he wouldn't have role claimed at all. He even mentions he thought his role was created by host and thus no one would know.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 25 2011 10:05 GMT

#449

Exactly, and that's more a town motivation than mafia. He could have easily removed the line about his role "confirming" (it does no such a thing) Voldemort's alignment, as he assumed the role was created by the host.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 25 2011 10:30 GMT

#456

You are completely ignoring the previous posts explaining why it is in fact less likely that he is mafia than the people who should know better pushing for his lynch. You are starting to look like a good lynch.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 25 2011 11:13 GMT

#459

On July 25 2011 20:06 Palmar wrote:
By the way, if you're convinced that Jackal is town, youngminii needs to be looked at.

If you're actually correct, he just shot a townie, and made it very, very likely that another townie would get lynched.

This is what I have been thinking, but he is also very impulsive and his posts look fairly genuine so far

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 25 2011 12:07 GMT

#465

I concur on kitaman, he hasn't expressed his opinion on the main topic of the day while asking questions which pretty much only serve to make EVERYONE involved look suspicious

On July 25 2011 11:03 kitaman27 wrote:
Is it safe to assume that all roles were assigned separate from alignment? Or do we have another host created rivalry like last game with the batman and joker?

On July 25 2011 11:13 kitaman27 wrote:
So you're willing to give away kp an hour into the game sandroba? :/

On July 25 2011 11:15 kitaman27 wrote:
Jackal/On, why would you role claim when you knew it was likely that there was a rival that wanted you dead?

On July 25 2011 11:57 kitaman27 wrote:

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What makes you think mafia has a roleblocker? Seems pretty unlikely to me.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 25 2011 12:07 GMT

#466

If it wasn't clear, ##Vote: kitaman27

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

July 25 2011 13:19 GMT

#483