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OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 25 2011 01:41 GMT
#241
On July 25 2011 10:40 sandroba wrote:
K ON, I'm giving you the stick. Claim your target before you use it.


Will do.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 01:41 GMT
#242
Can the Elder Wand be used at any time or only at night?
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 25 2011 01:41 GMT
#243
I want full disclosure. What is your power to help procure these items?

What can you do with each individual item?
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 25 2011 01:42 GMT
#244
Anyways I'm going out for a bit. I don't understand why the initial reaction to my plan was UR SCUM so if anyone cares to point out why knowing everyone's roles and being able to see which powers were used in an Anti Town manner and who has those powers is super harmful to Town I'd like to enlightened.

Don't give that blue sniping BS, every Townie is a blue this game and Mafia already know what several of the powers are. Pure simple DT-type roles are also very unlikely considering deconduo encouraged interesting and whacky ones.
wat
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 25 2011 01:43 GMT
#245
On July 25 2011 10:41 heist wrote:
I want full disclosure. What is your power to help procure these items?

What can you do with each individual item?


Its Night Talk with a player i can choose.

Tackster
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland429 Posts
July 25 2011 01:43 GMT
#246
On July 25 2011 10:40 sandroba wrote:
K ON, I'm giving you the stick. Claim your target before you use it.


Sand don't give anyone the stick yet. Assuming you believe whats being said that's KP. better that KP not be in play rather than risking mafia get it. And that's only if it IS KP..

Wait for someone to check ON or some counter claims to be made.


Why are people making decisions 2 hours into day 1?
Tackster: Can you give me a synonym of flammable? Deconduo: Inflammable...
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
July 25 2011 01:44 GMT
#247
On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote:
This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut?

One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out.

This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers).

The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating.

Thoughts?


Lol no thanks.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
July 25 2011 01:44 GMT
#248
On July 25 2011 10:42 Curu wrote:
Anyways I'm going out for a bit. I don't understand why the initial reaction to my plan was UR SCUM so if anyone cares to point out why knowing everyone's roles and being able to see which powers were used in an Anti Town manner and who has those powers is super harmful to Town I'd like to enlightened.

Don't give that blue sniping BS, every Townie is a blue this game and Mafia already know what several of the powers are. Pure simple DT-type roles are also very unlikely considering deconduo encouraged interesting and whacky ones.

Because scum can see which roles threaten them and block/shoot accordingly...Plus mafia could call out people for fake-claiming and possibly fake claim themselves. Analysis wins games not roles!
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 01:45 GMT
#249
No. ON don't claim anything else regarding your powers please.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
July 25 2011 01:46 GMT
#250
On July 25 2011 10:40 sandroba wrote:
K ON, I'm giving you the stick. Claim your target before you use it.

Please don't.

Be aware-- Voldemort has disguised himself as a member of the town and is trying to collect the items.


I'm Harry Potter.

From: deconduo [ 2677 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: PTP2 Role
Date: 7/25/11 08:50
"You are Harry Potter, and you are on a mission to unite the three Deathly Hallows. Be aware-- Voldemort has disguised himself as a member of the town and is trying to collect the items, same as you! Each item you or Voldemort obtain will grant the holder a power, but unfortunately you can only use one item per night.

The Elder Wand - Allows you to shoot someone during the night.

The Cloak of Invisibility - Allows you to survive a hit during the night

The Resurrection Stone - Allows you to protect another player during the night.

The problem is, you do not know where the items are! You suspect they may be in possession of other people in the town. Being muggles, they may not be aware of the magical properties of the items.

In order to find the items, you have the ability to choose one correspondent every day. During the following night, and that night only, you can freely exchange PMs. But you cannot talk once the night has passed. If your correspondent happens to possess one of the items you seek, he may decide to give it to you by sending a PM to the hosts of the game. You must convince them to do so, however!"
Life can only kill you once.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 25 2011 01:47 GMT
#251
Also, try to claim the target as close as possible to night deadline.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
July 25 2011 01:48 GMT
#252
It doesn't matter if you give someone the elder wand anyways. For someone to properly use the elder wand, said person must kill its last owner. So ON would have to kill sandroba to use it.
Enjoy your day.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
July 25 2011 01:48 GMT
#253
On July 25 2011 10:47 sandroba wrote:
Also, try to claim the target as close as possible to night deadline.

Please reconsider.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
July 25 2011 01:49 GMT
#254
On July 25 2011 10:48 Nisani201 wrote:
It doesn't matter if you give someone the elder wand anyways. For someone to properly use the elder wand, said person must kill its last owner. So ON would have to kill sandroba to use it.

Perhaps ON does. I have no such stipulation in my role PM.
Life can only kill you once.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 25 2011 01:49 GMT
#255
well... very interesting. one or the other is scum
Tackster
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland429 Posts
July 25 2011 01:50 GMT
#256
I thought heist claimed potter...

Also why are people claiming 2 hours into day 1?

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?
Tackster: Can you give me a synonym of flammable? Deconduo: Inflammable...
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 25 2011 01:50 GMT
#257
On July 25 2011 10:41 Tackster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 10:33 Curu wrote:
I don't get why it helps Mafia more than Town. They already know several roles so they can pick and choose who to take out from there already.

If a DT finds himself roleblocked all the time then we know who the roleblockers are and can narrow down the suspect.

It's basically operating under full disclosure and I don't see how that benefits anti Town more than Town.

@Tackster
EVERYONE is a power role, why does that matter?

@redFF
Derp read the thread, deconduo just explicitly said role claiming does not activate the penalties.



Well:
Show nested quote +
EVERYONE is a power role, why does that matter?

I didn't realise you had a role list... Last PYP i had a terrible vote effect.



Show nested quote +
They already know several roles so they can pick and choose who to take out from there already.

You imply it's negative they know possibly 5-8 roles but want to give them 25 to pick from.


Mafia will know 25 roles and all of their mates. They can pick the killers, docs, checkers and predict what effects will be used against them. They can avoid wasting KP on bulletproofs.

Town will know 25 roles and have to check 25 people.... Any pro-town secret mechanics (such as you can kill a mafia IF [condition]) will be void.

Mass claim is a terrible plan...


As well, mafia will be able to completely avoid things like veterans, bullet-proof townies, hatters, vengeance roles, etc.

It doesn't seem like a good plan this early into the game. As well, if mafia picked for each other at all, that gives them a free fake-claim, with which they can skew things. Say they have a KP role, or a role similar to someone else, then they'd use that role in an anti-town way, and it would appear as though the other, non-mafia, player were doing it.
you gotta dance
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 25 2011 01:50 GMT
#258
sandroba i sincerely hope you didn't give the wand yet
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
July 25 2011 01:50 GMT
#259
On July 25 2011 10:46 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 10:40 sandroba wrote:
K ON, I'm giving you the stick. Claim your target before you use it.

Please don't.

Be aware-- Voldemort has disguised himself as a member of the town and is trying to collect the items.


I'm Harry Potter.

From: deconduo [ 2677 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: PTP2 Role
Date: 7/25/11 08:50
"You are Harry Potter, and you are on a mission to unite the three Deathly Hallows. Be aware-- Voldemort has disguised himself as a member of the town and is trying to collect the items, same as you! Each item you or Voldemort obtain will grant the holder a power, but unfortunately you can only use one item per night.

The Elder Wand - Allows you to shoot someone during the night.

The Cloak of Invisibility - Allows you to survive a hit during the night

The Resurrection Stone - Allows you to protect another player during the night.

The problem is, you do not know where the items are! You suspect they may be in possession of other people in the town. Being muggles, they may not be aware of the magical properties of the items.

In order to find the items, you have the ability to choose one correspondent every day. During the following night, and that night only, you can freely exchange PMs. But you cannot talk once the night has passed. If your correspondent happens to possess one of the items you seek, he may decide to give it to you by sending a PM to the hosts of the game. You must convince them to do so, however!"


THEN WHY THE HELL DOES MY ROLE PM SAY TOWNIE?!?!?
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
July 25 2011 01:51 GMT
#260
On July 25 2011 10:49 heist wrote:
well... very interesting. one or the other is scum

ON's previous post regarding wincon makes me think he's 3rd party.
Life can only kill you once.
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