EPTAlternate win condition then? Care to share?
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote: This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut? One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out. This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers). The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating. Thoughts? Now this is a terrible plan.... Tell the mafia EXACTLY who the power roles are... Is this your first game? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote: This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut? One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out. This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers). The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating. Thoughts? Shouldnt Mass-Claim yet keyword here is yet. The problems with Mass-claiming in this game: Gun Roles/ Medics will be targeted first DTs have no reason to claim as it just makes them good block/kill targets and just leaves them out in the open to rot and die with no info gained. The oddroles might not want mechanics out there until they can utilize them. There is likely a good amount of KP in this game through Town KP Possible SK or Third Party Possible Assassins and Mafia. If we claim we at minimum do it D2 and even then I dont like it that early. We should make our lynch target claim however. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote: This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut? One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out. This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers). The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating. Thoughts? Why would anyone, including scum, lie? Also, smooth one OriginalName.. | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:27 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Alternate win condition then? Care to share? Not even alternate win condition, im just vanilla until i fulfill certain conditions. | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:30 youngminii wrote: Why would anyone, including scum, lie? Also, smooth one OriginalName.. Screw you I want powers. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote: This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut? One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out. This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers). The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating. Thoughts? we are not mass claiming, and yes many things activate ur penalty, i assume role-claiming is one of them. | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:31 redFF wrote: we are not mass claiming, and yes many things activate ur penalty, i assume role-claiming is one of them. Role Claiming is fine just dont claim who you sent your Role for. | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:30 OriginalName wrote: Not even alternate win condition, im just vanilla until i fulfill certain conditions. Excuse me but i think you need to defend your behaviour here... You've basically outed your role name, you've outed aspects of your role and your suggesting we might mass claim... all within 90 minutes of the game commencing... Are you lying your ass off, way too casual with your information or scummy scum scum? | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
I think you should claim, your derailing town discussion by being cryptic about the horcruxes. We should either stop trying to get information from ON or he should claim. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
If a DT finds himself roleblocked all the time then we know who the roleblockers are and can narrow down the suspect. It's basically operating under full disclosure and I don't see how that benefits anti Town more than Town. @Tackster EVERYONE is a power role, why does that matter? @redFF Derp read the thread, deconduo just explicitly said role claiming does not activate the penalties. | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:33 redFF wrote: I think you should claim, your derailing town discussion by being cryptic about the horcruxes. We should either stop trying to get information from ON or he should claim. Im Townie Voldemort. Why the fuck Voldemort is a townie is beyond my level of comprehension. I find Items I get powers. Heist basically said everything you could say about said powers. To have a power to help me get items but I realllllllllllyyyyy would rather not claim that. | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:35 OriginalName wrote: Im Townie Voldemort. Why the fuck Voldemort is a townie is beyond my level of comprehension. I find Items I get powers. Heist basically said everything you could say about said powers. I have a power to help me get items but I realllllllllllyyyyy would rather not claim that. EDIT | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:35 OriginalName wrote: Im Townie Voldemort. Why the fuck Voldemort is a townie is beyond my level of comprehension. I find Items I get powers. Heist basically said everything you could say about said powers. To have a power to help me get items but I realllllllllllyyyyy would rather not claim that. Are items a 1 use deal and can others use said items? | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
You kill people and steal the items considering your Voldemort? also I'm going to sleep please sort this wand discussion out before I wake up. | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:38 redFF wrote: Are items a 1 use deal and can others use said items? I have no idea. | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:38 Drazerk wrote: You kill people and steal the items considering your Voldemort? also I'm going to sleep please sort this wand discussion out before I wake up. No because the Wand is how I acquire said KP. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
On July 25 2011 10:33 Curu wrote: I don't get why it helps Mafia more than Town. They already know several roles so they can pick and choose who to take out from there already. If a DT finds himself roleblocked all the time then we know who the roleblockers are and can narrow down the suspect. It's basically operating under full disclosure and I don't see how that benefits anti Town more than Town. @Tackster EVERYONE is a power role, why does that matter? @redFF Derp read the thread, deconduo just explicitly said role claiming does not activate the penalties. Well: EVERYONE is a power role, why does that matter? I didn't realise you had a role list... Last PYP i had a terrible vote effect. They already know several roles so they can pick and choose who to take out from there already. You imply it's negative they know possibly 5-8 roles but want to give them 25 to pick from. Mafia will know 25 roles and all of their mates. They can pick the killers, docs, checkers and predict what effects will be used against them. They can avoid wasting KP on bulletproofs. Town will know 25 roles and have to check 25 people.... Any pro-town secret mechanics (such as you can kill a mafia IF [condition]) will be void. Mass claim is a terrible plan... | ||
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