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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 27 2011 15:59 GMT
#7
So much /in
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 28 2011 01:21 GMT
#22
It´s a war that engulf the entire world. How big do you think it will be?
I´d say global thermonuclear warfare is the key here.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 29 2011 02:46 GMT
#42
/in

I´m already in, but I guess it couldn´t hurt to be in it twice. Let´s see if Caller notices.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 05 2011 03:38 GMT
#130
WAR!
WAR!
YOU WILL DIE!
My name is Mataza and I declare war upon you.

WAR! WAR!
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 05 2011 07:31 GMT
#169
What if someone has biodegradable nukes which don´t increase radiation? Is it ok to nuke the hell out of this if you have such nukes?

I really, really want to nuke someone. This power is almost uncontrollable.

Also I represent a country of twats. If I was to roleplay them, I´d rather nuke myself.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 07:00 GMT
#460
On July 06 2011 13:26 sandroba wrote:
DAY ENDS in 2 hours. Wiggles where is your vote?
Come on people vote for Palmar. He did not even respond to my case, while being active in other threads. I guarantee you he is scum.

Don´t you dare scare me again.
If you were right I would have been lynched right now, before I even reacted.

First of all, my apologies for long absent. I began playing TF2 a lot since it is now free and I am kinda burned out in regards to mafia.
Seriously people, this is a GAME. Stop being so fucking tense and serious. I am here to have fun, but most of the stuff you´re writing is as interesting as RL politics. I even joined the caller game because Caller games have the reputation to be wtf bananas.
Relax and loosen up and have fun. Peace.

With that said, I propose


Matazas Plan for having funsies

Nuke Policy
Destroy what destroys you.
Right now the tense atmosphere destroys me, but I am sure as hell I am not allowed to nuke *that*.

Punishment
It might sound like a consequence free environment, but really it is not. Not entirely at least.
You should be aware that people will do unto you as you do unto them.
Much like mutually assured destruction or to be more biblical "Do unto other as you want be done unto you"
If you want to stop nuclear armageddon, lead by example and don´t nuke.

Why
Because I want to have fun, and right now I am having none.

Support
How does this plan compare to WaW 1? How could it have affected the results of that game?
Who the fuck cares? Didn´t even read that game. At least I am sure these guys *had* fun.

Other Tidbits
Call me a loose cannon if you want. I am not here to be uptight.

##Vote: Matazas Plan


On another note, of the three allied campaigns Dunkirk is the most obvious choice, really.

Watchtower does jackshit and Axis campaigns or special power may even circumvent that.

Gunnerside sounds good, but considering the arsenal scum might or might not have, will not have as big an effect as you may think. Townnukes are much more dangerous to town than scumnukes. Atop of that it takes 2 turns.
If Gunnerside takes 2 turns, does that mean we get no campaign tomorrow?

I may be not boreitish, but a handful of free veterans is sure a goddamn good deal.
I am in a country of twats that can´t do much until Mr. Twatface himself dies.
May I change sides(the RL twats of this coutnry would sure as hell do, I am sure)?

##Vote: Operation Dunkirk


On yet another note, who to kill today. Here´s what I think:

Palmar doesn´t look like the usual self and completely forgot PTP with a lot of selfownings, of which he actually had the most part in, and substituted it with RTM, where scum where bad enough to slip up left and right and the final scumlynch was a *miscount by the host*.
You gave an example why your shit works, I have a counterexample why it doesn´t.
Scientifically speaking his plan was never waterproof and he just made himself believe it was.
Now Palmar has changed about every game so far, and with every game he gets fuller of himself. Of course he does change the final outcome of games, since he lives until lategame usually.
Take a note out of the book of being humble.
I don´t jugdge alignment of people that tick me of, so I can´t really say if he´s scum or not. But I do want to see him die early for a change.

##Vote: Palmar


Sandroba with his constant advising us to double lynch everyday, originally even with multiple missiles depending on claimed nightlives, really really make me think he is the conspirator. As far as I can tell there should be only 1 conspirator and after the conspirator dies we are free to nuke ourselves like no tomorrow. And I want that. I want that sooo much.

##Nuke: Sandroba
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 07:18 GMT
#461
On July 06 2011 15:47 Cthsazsa wrote:
Anyone find it weird how easy a bandwagon is forming on Sandroba?
Palmar hasn't been acting protown, but I don't understand why the hell everyone was freaking out when Palmar launched that dud-nuke. He stated as soon as the game began that he has no nukes.
I haven't found his behavior to be scummy, but he's certainly not acting protown. Like someone before me stated, I wouldn't be surprised if he was the Conspirator.

I also think he is a good lynch, but I'm not going to place my vote just yet. I need to go back and read up on the other candidates.

Overall I'm pretty damn glad that no nukes have been launched yet. Hopefully shit doesn't hit the fan until at least Day 2

Oh the irony.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 12:11 GMT
#539
On July 06 2011 18:09 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 17:54 syllogism wrote:
I'm not going to lynch someone I think is town, especially if the nuke didn't actually get launched


So, first you call me out for not wanting to commit to a plan that I see flawed, but then as soon as the time comes to act on it, you pull out yourself?

What's the point of the entire argument and creating policies if we're not going to follow them?

We settled on a policy, I grudgingly did so and now people want me lynched for not instantly praising the policy, that might actually work in the conspirator's favor. Yes, I don't want to use a vote-nuke tomorrow either. We can do it later in the game, but Sandroba's eagerness to use nukes rubs me the wrong way.

But we settled on it, if we don't lynch Mataza we've basically declared the policy worthless. The brilliant part of this is that you might even know Mataza is town, and thus when this is over, you reluctantly lynch him, but gain fuckton of town credit for "trying to stop a lynch on an innocent".

I'm not going to buy this.

We're lynching Mataza, and if he flips town, I'm not giving you any town credit for trying to stop it. As far as I'm concerned you're scum. I find your willingness to break policies very anti-town, it's actually worse than arguing against them, because you're basically tearing them apart at your own wish.

On July 06 2011 18:26 GMarshal wrote:
Mataza nuked. Mataza dies.

Alignment is irrelevant, this is a policy lynch, in fact, if the nuke phase isn't over I request permission to counternuke so that our lynch can actually generate information.

On July 06 2011 17:52 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 17:47 syllogism wrote:
I'm pretty sure Mataza is town. This is the weakness of the plan; dumb townies.


I still think he needs to be hanged, if we don't do it we might see scum that are not under suspicion at current do the same, and then just hide behind their good reputation.

That's why it's a policy, we need to enforce it.


I don´t have the time to read the last 3 pages, but i am sick of the word policy already.
I am sorry for interrupting your World at Conference Mafia, but I wanted play WAW Mafia 2.
This is supposed to be awesome, not boring. I stand with my missile and I did fire a missile, I guarantee that. What´s on it you will see.

Also if there is a conspirator he will be unable to nuke someone, logically. His aim is to get others nuking, not to do all the work himself. Just like Mafia are usually a minority on who to lynch.

I regret nothing. Screw policies.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 14:59 GMT
#577
I see many people have misinterpreted my actions.

My nuke is not for destruction, but for FREEDOM.
It is to break free from the tyranny of the all-encompassing policies which suppress us all, our people, that is we all who are playing.

I will not stand for rules that take away every responsibility from our actions and that may as well be carried out by machines.
We are Humans and we are all Individuals.
We should therefore act like individuals and decide for ourselves what is the best thing to do.

Palmar confesses he is often wrong in the things he does and more than once got townies killed as the result of it. Is it fair to punish me for something similar while he hides behind the fact that "his missile is only a dud" because "he has no nukes"?
You may now say yes, but be aware that it is because Palmar has a way with words which I don´t have. Ask yourself, if I was more persuasive would you then forgive me? Don´t just say no. Think about it for a minute.

I want my freedom back. My policy is as good as the others. Everyone knows what consequences his actions have, and that´s why my missile didn´t already cause a "shitstorm", unlike every single one of you predicted.

I am fed up with trying to be calm, collected, persuasive, good mannered and whatnot. This is just not me.
I am extreme. I am a crusader. I am justice. I am the missing screws of your new some-assembling-required shelf.
I am the Darkwing Duck of TL Mafia.

The missile I fired is just an expression of how I crave freedom more than anything right now.

If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 15:13 GMT
#585
If you were a bit more well versed in certain history facts of a certain nation you could actually deduce my alignment by my roleplaying.
I am still in here for the fun. If I don´t have fun while winning, why do I even bother signing up?
I don´t. It may be less effective but it is definitely more enjoyable.
I prefer going down laughing then winning sadly.

How any of my actions make me conspirator is beyond me.
If anything, it would show I suck as conspirator, which I think should be pretty damn hard.
I showed that I fired a missile and even if I didn´t say what is in it or not in it, no one suddenly went in and fired his nukes at some else. The nuclear holocaust you are fearing is not gonna happen.
Actually, retaliatory nukes by townies against townies will only happen if you are uptight enough to take a lynch as personal insult and get worked up over that.
Relax and everything´s gonna be alright. You should trust Bob Marley on that. he is a much wiser man than me.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 15:15 GMT
#586
Let´s make this game a blast.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 17:24 GMT
#667
Now Youngminii, I see you enjoy yourself too.

So I just happen to be able to counterkill you. It´s not like I can lose anything right now.
Let´s talk for abit.

You haven´t been in the thread for a whole long time and as far as I remember you didn´t tell us much besides your intention of nuking someone.
You also said that you actually like the way I tackle this game, yet you volunteered to kill me.
And that´s literally it. Just tidbits like against gunnerside, for Dunkirk.

Do you actually think I´m scum? Who else besides me would you kill/lynch? Do you actually buy GM´s "new way to play" excuse for playing odd without being that much different?
I personally find it strange when someone declares that he is going to try something new so meta should not be used on him. Palmar tried to lynch me for that in SNMM3. + Show Spoiler +
Literally that was his whole thought process(Mataza plays different, he must be scum). That being the blindest tunnel ever actually made the mafia kill me. But I digress.


I do not see the point in making big analysises now as I am sure people will again forget it the moment I die, which is again very soon. At least this time I got a say in when and how I die.
But you are going to live. So tell me what you think so that the whole town may hear it.
Or you are going down with me.


Btw, I am so not america. America didn´t invent freedom and they are not the only people who like it. And they sure as hell didn´t celebrate their freedom the way I do. Guess again.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 17:27 GMT
#669
With a nuke?
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 17:29 GMT
#674
If I read the rules correctly
Only one missile may be fired at a time, unless it is in response to another nuke being fired or otherwise specified.


The way I see it, I am allowed to nuke back at anyone who nukes me.
Please caller explain if this is right.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 17:31 GMT
#676
Dude, I want to hear input and I am not allowed to nuke GM.
I considered it, but I think Sand is the conspirator and I hate that faction more than the scum.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 17:32 GMT
#679
On July 07 2011 02:32 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
caller is a baller

Too obvious
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 17:41 GMT
#690
On July 07 2011 02:33 youngminii wrote:
okay mataza

if you nuke anyone, i WILL intercept it
however, that is forcing me to waste a valuable resource that is priceless for town

hence, if you do nuke, you are undoubtedly going against your win condition as a townie

Show nested quote +
Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.


I instantly don´t believe you.
First, I hate sudden claims as substitutes for talking.

Do you actually dare me and try to just point to the OP as reason for me not to do it?
I hate getting mixed signals, you know. I have nothing to lose. If that´s a bluff it´s the riskiest bluff I´ve ever seen.

What made you nuke me? Did you think I am scum? Are you in love with the goddarn policies?
What about the part where you actually liked what I wrote?
Mixed signals again. Please explain.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 17:58 GMT
#701
All in.
Show me what you´ve got.
[image loading]

##Nuke: Youngminii

I will go only this far. If you think you are in a position with so much more leverage than me, prove it.

If you are a nation with a nuke and 2 antinukes or even more, I would go as far as to say you are not supposed to use them all for yourself.
It looks very much like a roleblocker, who is supposed to defend scum from nukes, while the other scum don´t have antinukes.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 18:02 GMT
#713
That we would be anyway.
But I think you´ve got some explaining to do.

Either you have 2 counternukes for real, or you are using counternukes from people you can talk with, e.g. your scum buddies, in order to support your claim.

Viva la resistance!
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 18:04 GMT
#715
Why do you have that ability in the first place is the question.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 18:05 GMT
#720
If you got that power, my role whithers in the shadow of the awesomeness you got during role distribution.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 18:16 GMT
#745
Btw, there is no imminent Nuclearmageddon. I and Youngminii are the only loose cannons here.
Stop talking about it. It´s not even close to happening. 2 people is not chaos, it is to be *expected*.

You can start talking about doomsday if multiple people talk about relentless nuking, which imho nobody does.

By the way, an interesting bit right here.

On July 07 2011 01:39 youngminii wrote:
oh and

I vote to NOT nuke Mataza

On July 07 2011 01:42 youngminii wrote:
wait has mataza's nuke on gmarshal already landed?

On July 07 2011 01:42 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 01:38 youngminii wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA
watching drazerk post is the funniest part of this game

so do we want to save gmarshal or not

as long as he plays protown i dont care if hes conspirator or not. Also since you made it clear at the start of the game you want to nuke, go ahead and nuke Mataza, for freedom

On July 07 2011 01:43 youngminii wrote:
k
oh okay that completely overrides my previous opinion

##Nuke Mataza

These are actually 4 consecutive posts.
Actually this says everything itself, but since it is cool to summarize quotes:
First YM is for not nuking me.
He then makes sure evryone is aware he has no idea what´s happening, even thought it´s not that complicated.
Then TAA practically says "Finish him."
YM answers with the sassy "Yeah, my opinion from 4 minutes ago is worthless now because you said i should nuke, so I´m gonna nuke"

This should be the strangest moment in the game if you don´t consider my posts.
YM changed his opinion by 1 post saying he should nuke.
TAA told him to nuke me.
Suck gas, evildoer.
FoS TheAwesomeAll

Don´t let this guy get away like he is not part of it.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 18:21 GMT
#757
On July 07 2011 03:10 sandroba wrote:
YM is town. Possibly mataza too. GMarshal is scum. No one is following the supposed policy and my patience has worn out.
Don't fire any nukes at me cuz I'm fucking imortal. If they do, don't shoot them down, cuz it's not worth it just for the radiation at this point.
##Nuke GMarshal

Okay, that came unexpected.
I´m laughing my ass off. Maybe there will be imminent Armageddon.
But I did shoot the right direction to stop it. Think about it. Suddenly Sandroba is kill immune and nukes wihtout any town consent. Now my nuke seems about right, doesn´t it?
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 18:25 GMT
#765
On July 07 2011 03:17 GMarshal wrote:
I just thought of what I'm doing. I'm not going to stop sandrobas missile against me. Matazta, you owe me one now, do me a favor and enforce my policy when I'm gone.

Oh and I'll be nuking a random lurker in about *taps watch* 11 hours.

That will teach them to lurk.

I would, but you know I am dying before you do.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 18:26 GMT
#768
On July 07 2011 03:19 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
EVERYONE CALM THE FUCK DOWN
By now you should know that we are not all flying super vigilantes. we GOT TO GET OUR SHIT TOGETHER. Stop nuking, everyone who casts a nuke from now on will get nuked themselves.
If GM is scum we will vote for him and just barely lynch him. Then we he flips red we can see who didnt vote for him, Nuking is extremely anti town
If he turns green can examine who voted for him and why they voted.

I will nuke the next guy who is going to nuke, if they dont have a town majority. No hesitation, no thinking just 2 bolded words

Now lets play this as a no nuke game, nukes are only used to kill the guy who nukes, mutual destruction and a normal mafia game.

Dude.

YOU TALKED YM INTO NUKING ME.


Don´t act innocent, you weasel.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 18:32 GMT
#777
There is no contradiction TAA.

GM wanted to vote(emphasis here).
Then someone played renegade executioner at your command.
GM looks like he always does(since he was not in the mood to troll a caller game, lol)#


##Unvote: Palmar
##Vote: TheAwesomeAll

If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 18:33 GMT
#778
By the way, now we´re playing World at War. Conference time is over.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 18:51 GMT
#803
On July 07 2011 03:39 Palmar wrote:
He's france btw, not america.

And for some reason he keeps linking German music with it.

Classic music.
Ode to joy is the european anthem, and that´s not my fault.
It´s not my fault either Mozart was born in Austria which lies directly next to germany.
Most of the classic music was composed in Wien, Austria.
If you find me something worthwhile made by someone french, spanish, italian, or scandinavian for that matter, I will consider it in the future.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 18:57 GMT
#810
On July 07 2011 03:53 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 03:50 Palmar wrote:
On July 07 2011 03:47 GMarshal wrote:
On July 07 2011 03:43 Palmar wrote:
What the hell are you talking about Cthzasza. The shit we're in now is exactly what I was trying to fucking avoid by just calmly lynching according to policy.

But hey, I probably don't know what I'm saying, as you were... blowing up the world.


Remember what I said about overestimating the town? Yeah, I think I'm as guilty of that as you are. Can you imagine if we followed your plan though?


Hmm... My plan would've done exactly the same as sandroba's. We'd have policy lynched Mataza and proceeded.

But hey, TAA and YM don't need to follow no fucking plan, just nuke nuke nuke.

And for the big finale, we have fucking Sandroba come in and randomly nuke into town, CAUSE IT'S SCUMMY TO DISAGREE WITH HIS POLICY, BUT PRO-TOWN TO BREAK IT AND NUKE TOWN.

Yep, fully agree, when I flip green kill sand. Hell nuke him if you want, people have all pretty much decided that playing to win is less fun than NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST. Because NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST is hilarious, as is nuking people. I should have chosen the extra nukes rather than the extra life (which palmar shot out from under me) and the counter nuke, Imagine the fun I'd be having right now.


Wait, you got to choose part of your power?
I have to freaking wait for someone to roll over and die before I get something besides nukes, and that extra is not even that great.
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July 06 2011 19:05 GMT
#830
Yes, he told you to nuke me before the votes were sufficient for it.
It´s trying to get someone else to break the policy, as in to not be in the spotlight.
This is scum play, you make others go wild and hide in the background like you have no part in it.

He incited you to break the policy and now he acts like he is against nukes altogether. That´s what I would a 180° turn.
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July 06 2011 19:05 GMT
#832
This was in answer to youngminiis post:
On July 07 2011 04:00 youngminii wrote:
wait
waaaait
waaaaaaaaait
lynching taa is more ridiculous than lynching me, at least for the reason that you all want to do it

here:


Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 01:42 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
On July 07 2011 01:38 youngminii wrote:
HAHAHAHAHA
watching drazerk post is the funniest part of this game

so do we want to save gmarshal or not

as long as he plays protown i dont care if hes conspirator or not. Also since you made it clear at the start of the game you want to nuke, go ahead and nuke Mataza, for freedom


this is not scummy
oh my god

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July 06 2011 19:15 GMT
#868
Look at this.
Now look 20 pages back.
Look back here.

This game is now AWESOME.

Let´s try to recap all the nuke actions we had already:
Palmar duded GM´s extra life away.
Mataza nuked Sandroba.
TAA told YM to nuke Mataza.
YM nuked Mataza.
YM antied the Mat->Sand Missile
Mataza nuked YM.
YM antied the Mat->YM Missile.

Now shit goes bananas:

Sandroba nuked GM
GM claims he will nuke someone extra late just to make the day as long as possible
GM announces he will anti the YM->Mat Missile.
Sinani nukes YM
Jeejee nukes Sinani
Sinani nukes jeejee back.

Now before this made kinda sense.
But when Sandroba announced his nuke on GM, which was never up for debate and wasn´t at least hinted to be counterable in any way(like my nuke on YM was supposedly), shit broke lose.
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July 06 2011 19:23 GMT
#889
On July 07 2011 04:12 Cthsazsa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 03:59 Drazerk wrote:
On July 07 2011 03:57 Cthsazsa wrote:
On July 07 2011 03:54 Drazerk wrote:
TAA started this mess by talking Mini into nuking Mataza. I do not have nukes and if the nuclear level gets any higher we are screwed. I know this and I won't let it happen we had policies in place before the minii nuke now they are all going down the hatchet.

WE NEED TO RESTORE ORDER QUICKLY

quickest way to do this? - Remove the corruption that started it

##Vote: TheAwesomeAll


Actually I like this lynch better. He DID start all this shit, while Palmar has tried to prevent it.


Caller is a gift from the heavens, Which he created

I don't get the palmar lynch at all he has been one of the most pro town players all game.

Lynch TAA and no more nukes for two days and pray scum don't kill us all.


I hate the idea of lynching someone I think is town. I don't see how Mataza was scummy at all. Yeah he used his nuke but that's no reason for every single townie to go apeshit crazy. OMGOMG HE LAUNCHED A NUKE CONSPIRATOR WINS.
Chill out and calm down, people.

Palmar specifically stated in the quote I posted, "LYNCHING TOWN IS KIND OF BAD, BUT IT MUST BE DONE".
WTF is that?

Mataza was completely right. Nuking is like a vigi shot, and it should be up to the individual as to whether he should use it or not. I think policy lynching is fucking stupid and it gives scum a free-day pass. Don't get me wrong, if I think I should nuke someone I'm going to build a good case on them and present it to everyone. But I don't need to fucking ask the majority of town if it's okay for me to nuke someone.

Thanks for helping me change my mind Drazerk. I'm keeping my vote on Palmar.


I did not say that, that was Palmar. I celebrated breaking free from the tyranny of boring policies with a nuke. I´m france. French people burn things every time they revolt.
They burned the Bastille a couple of hours after they took it with only a single dead person on both sides. When they invented Sabotage(sabo stands for wooden shoes which they threw in the gears of factory machines), they burned the factory afterwards for shit and giggles. I am just roleplaying the french.
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July 06 2011 19:26 GMT
#899
On July 07 2011 04:19 youngminii wrote:
##Nuke Mataza

How fucking many missiles do you have?
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July 06 2011 19:29 GMT
#907
Could the leader of the french people plz die, I want my extra power.
You know who you are.

No actuualy, don´t. I had my revolt already. I don´t want the surprise spoilt. Also I am free now, so you can live.
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July 06 2011 19:33 GMT
#916
I am considering changing my vote from TAA to Youngminii.
This guys has 2 nukes and 2 counternukes? And supposedly even more than that?

Either you are America in a very overpowered interpretation or you are fucking lying.
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July 06 2011 19:41 GMT
#932
Sandroba, I wasn´t talking about you, I was talking about YM.

His anti nukes are real or the missiles wouldn´t vanish. I am thinking either he used anti´s from his scum buddies or he is firing dud missiles.
But if you(Sandroba) want to claim having immunity and nukes and counternukes and a lot of all 3 this only makes me more suspicious of you.
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July 06 2011 19:43 GMT
#937
See the positive aspect:
It´s only around 5 nukes that actually land. And people around here tend to have a lot of antinukes, so it should be no problem stopping it all.
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July 06 2011 20:30 GMT
#1029
On July 07 2011 05:15 sandroba wrote:
LoL wiggles might be scum again. Why do you roll so much scum wigglies?

Yeah, it´s almost like a CONSPIRACY.

Seriously though, people have stopped to make sense altogether.

TAA incited the first nuke which was done before the town voting was complete.
Sandroba fired the first nuke that didn´t involve me or anyone I was involved at the time.

YM keeps telling everyone to nuke the shit out of this.
Sandroba was the one guy who was adamant about policy enforcing day0.
Sandroba random nuke incited a chain reaction of counternukes, as he was the guy who proposed a policy in the first place.

Palmar claimed Conspirator. killing him might flip the radiation limit, we won´t know until he flips.


It´s really hard to decide which to lynch first. So I´m going chronological. TAA came first, then Sandroba, then Palmar.

I am disappointed at the chain reaction. There has been literally no talk before each nuke(the nukes between YM and me had talk inbetween them).
At least we should come out alive out of this.
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Hitting bottom isn't a weekend retreat. It's not a goddamn seminar. Stop trying to control everything and just let go! LET GO!

And then, something happened. I let go. Lost in oblivion. Dark and silent and complete. I found freedom. Losing all hope was freedom.

These are of course from the movie fight club. You are now welcome to the game I changed this into, for you.
Caller gave us the building blocks we needed, and I am thankful for that.
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July 06 2011 20:45 GMT
#1060
Yes.

You did a face heel turn.
You were one of the 3 people who debated anti nuke policies the whole game and then all of a sudden you change your opinion and say fuck it. You chose yourself to proclaim not nuking to be the way to go.
You have to pull through with the stuff you propose. If you don´t do it, how can you expect other not to do it too? It´s like a smoker that tells people not to start smoking. It´s hypocrisy.

If I have to spell that out to you, just ask.
I don´t like explaining every single detail, so if it wasn´t apparent, I would kill these 4 players next because I think they are scum:
TAA, YM, Sandroba, Palmar

I work under the assumption YM will die to Sinanis nuke so I didn´t list him in my last post, but here he is, in case you think I left him out on purpose.
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July 06 2011 21:05 GMT
#1086
By the way I am puzzled too why GM did save me instead of himself.
He basically said he doesn´t want to do this anymore and he wants to make it my job to salvage it.

This would have gone much cleaner if you went with let the Sandro nuke land(fyi he is suddenly immune to nukes), and properly vote to nuke me with a majority of town and everything would have gone back to how it was.
But my proclamation of FREEDOM™ was just too good.
They thought it would mean to just nuke people. It´s about playing the game in a way that is fun.
It´s right, we don´t have nukes to hide them in our sheds.
But my policy also stated that you should be aware of the consequences. I fully expected to just being killed in an orderly manner.

I could use my nuke as a bargaining chip when talking with YM to get him to commit to something. But all he said was "lololol try it."
Which was obviously not the kind of answer I wanted.

Imho this went out of control when Sandroba for no real reason decided it was best to nuke GM for reasons I am not sure I fully understand.

See the difference:
I nuke with magnificient humor and good music, choosing my own death.
If that is all you people needed to go wtf bananas, I don´t think the policy was really wanted by anyone. hell, it should even have gone off when palmar nuked for funsies with a dud missile(or so he claims, GM still lost an extra life)
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July 06 2011 21:07 GMT
#1089
GM nailed it.
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July 06 2011 21:24 GMT
#1102
Did you know I was really split on whether to nuke Sand and vote Palmar or do it the other way around?

You were both pro nuking in some way or the other, either at regular intervals(Sandroba) or whenever the fuck you want(Palmar).
Oh lord, I am now responsible(in part) for getting GM nuked instead of the scummy guys.
I´m not forgetting who sheeped behind my madness.

Btw, I don´t care if we enforce watchtower now, I´m empty. Thank you YM for only preventing my nukes. I hope you really think Sandroba is town, because I don´t.


Also we need more great justice in this thread.
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July 06 2011 21:30 GMT
#1109
3000$ everything I´ve got.

Make a picture of me and what I did.


You like to copy from Ace, don´tcha?
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July 06 2011 21:34 GMT
#1115
Good artists never call it stealing. They call it inspiration.

Also you should have put some fixed price items in that, like
Point out why X is town - 1500
Find a player that flies under the radar - 500
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July 06 2011 21:41 GMT
#1120
Wait, random thought.

How many Boreitish players are dying to nukes today? I would say a faction has 3 players, 4 players maximum in at most one case(I´d guess Brahmerica as it is the biggest country).
If we lose multiple Brits, Dunkirk is gonna be much worse than we initially thought(not that claiming would mean someone will save you from your nuke)

As alternative I would vote for Watchtower as FREEDOM™ is just too much for some people to handle.
Gunnerside sucks because it takes away tomorrows campaign too. And we will probably really need that campaign tomorrow.
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July 06 2011 21:45 GMT
#1123
The french revolution ended with a burning castle and 1 dead guard(which was supposed to be Sandroba)
FREEDOM™ shouldn´t cost more than that.

Do we really need to enact the Robespierre period too?
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July 06 2011 21:50 GMT
#1125
Fuck I wish Robespierre was in this game. He would have the ability to lynch people on his own.
He wouldn´t have nukes though, as back then people fought with muskets at best.

But he did behead people until the scaffold fell over because all the blood made the ground soften up and go swampy.
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July 06 2011 21:55 GMT
#1127
By the way, I´m going to sleep now, have fun.

I should wake up before the day ends. In case I do not I will(Just watched in the voting thread) I have no fucking Idea what´s going to happen. At a glance it looks like Palmar will die.
I will vote for Watchtower anyway, if I recall correctly at least 1 boreitish guy is dying.
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July 07 2011 06:13 GMT
#1312
On July 07 2011 08:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 08:17 GMarshal wrote:
On July 07 2011 08:15 Drazerk wrote:
On July 07 2011 08:14 GMarshal wrote:
Also, lets say you theoretically had a way to get someone's alignment published in the next day post, who would you choose?

This is *purely* a theoretical exercise.


Myself confirmed townies are always good if there is medic support around

Now lets say this theoretical power had the *tiny* setback of destroying one of that person's nukes, and raising radiation levels by 1. Would you still use it that way? Lets also say you can't aim it at yourself.


Does this ability perchance explode one of those person's nukes, raising the radiation level by one, and killing the person, thus revealing their alignment?

Also, I switched to it as soon as the nukes started going off like this, but please:

VOTE FOR OPERATION WATCHTOWER. FOR PEACE. FOR JUSTICE.

You are a liar.
Justice is nothing like Peace.
Justice is firing on the guilty.
Peace is forgiving the guilty.
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July 07 2011 06:27 GMT
#1315
On July 07 2011 10:00 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 09:59 chaos13 wrote:
kita, members of the troll faction don't have to troll the thread or be stupid in any way. If they have some sort of restriction like that it's because of their role, not their faction.


Can we get a confirmation from Sandroba or Mataza that their roles don't require any trolling of the thread?

Ah yes, I am just a french twat, no requirement from my role to do such things.
I was just pissed off at this waolrd at conference bullshit and chose suicide. Then I was rescued....
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July 07 2011 06:42 GMT
#1320
On July 07 2011 15:01 heist wrote:
I don't want to see Palmar hanged because I believe he will most likely turn up as Conspirator. I'm guessing the majority if not everyone getting nuked will be town. I don't think we can afford to do a safety lynch on Palmar on the off chance he is scum. We need to get back our momentum somehow and Palmar getting lynched and turning up as Conspirator will give us nothing. Lynch results are our most accurate way to determine alignment. I say ignore him however annoying he is and reinforce our policy or the next day will be a nukefest. OR since people seem to be so accuse-happy how bout you vote for that person than someone most people believe is NOT scum?

I can't believe I'm the one trying to hold up our agreed upon plan. What exactly is stopping mafia from nuking someone tomorrow if there are no repercussions except counternukes. We can all see how great of a deterrent those are... All it takes is one townie thinking they have a surefire read on someone and then boom mafia are free to nuke as needed.

Also, I don't seem to recall any analysis of Deconduo being done (though I did read a lot of posts in a short amount of time) but a lot of people seem to think he's suspicious never really backing it up. Can I please hear some input on this?


You could try Operation Watchtower, which will stop any nukes from flying tomorrow.
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July 07 2011 06:47 GMT
#1322
On July 07 2011 15:29 sandroba wrote:
K, mataza since you claimed france, can you claim your leader so I can maybe take my vote off of you?

The Flee Flance Lepubric
Not onry ale they cowald, but they invelt re r and l rettels. (pronounce faster and you sound like a French person). They tend to be vely scaled of nucreal weapons.
Leader: Paur Leynaud.

Je´mappelle Charles Dugalle de France.

Seriously, this is one of the less telling things you could ask.
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July 07 2011 06:50 GMT
#1325
Btw, about the russians.

We have Lenin and Leon Trotzky.
In the OP it states their leader is Trollsef Stalin though, so at least one more.

Or did the Lenin guy claim being the leader? I don´t remember quite the details.
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July 07 2011 06:56 GMT
#1328
On July 07 2011 15:49 sandroba wrote:
Well, how come it's spelled correctly? Does not fit the theme.

The dude was Charles de Gaulle.
Dugalle was the admiral of the UED in SC:BW

Apparently I am the only guy in this thread who know anything about France, so I am not surprised there wasn´t much fucking around with this. At least I don´t have abilities related to eating frogs or baguettes or something stereotypical.
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July 07 2011 06:58 GMT
#1330
On July 07 2011 15:51 sandroba wrote:
I'm not leader. Also your leader name is suspicious as fuck since it has no "jokes".

Just like the french burning things when they revolt, this is not my fault.

I feel smugly superior as my name is related to Starcraft though
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July 07 2011 07:05 GMT
#1334
Are we actually going there?

You accuse me of scum because my role (probably) had less work put into it than the roles of more prominent leaders? Hell yeah, I would have preferred N4Poleon Bonafart too, but I didn´t get him.
I got 2 nukes, they are now gone.
I get a shitty little extra if, and only if my leader, Paur Leynard, dies before I do.

That´s it. That is the whole extent of my role.
Also there was a little french in there which showed me I speak better french than the hosts of this game.
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July 07 2011 07:08 GMT
#1337
I hope some british guy has princess Diana.
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July 07 2011 07:21 GMT
#1351
I am voting Palmar now btw, since we are not getting enough votes on TAA in the remaining time, making my vote essentially worthless.

Just a reminder, TAA incited Youngminii to nuke me prematurely. His justification was that YM wanted to nuke someone anyway. That´s not a valid reason to nuke someone. AT ALL.
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July 07 2011 07:24 GMT
#1355
Misunderstanding here obviously.

When Sandroba talks about leadernames, he means the rolenames we received.
Like De Gaulle was president of france, so technically a leader.

He does not want you to out your faction leader as a player.
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July 07 2011 07:27 GMT
#1357
By the way, day is over since 16:07 TL time.
We may talk but we cannot change anything now.
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July 07 2011 07:36 GMT
#1361
Another point that still stands, just remembered it.

Sandroba claimed nuclear immunity. In other words, YM first counternuke was a waste.
And Sandroba, you were alive and posted after I fired my nuke.
You should really have claimed in a not misunderstandable way that you are immune to nukes in order to save town from using up counternukes.

Unless of course using up counternukes furthers your goal.
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July 07 2011 08:57 GMT
#1375
On July 07 2011 17:29 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 17:27 sandroba wrote:
Yo Palmar, you owe me and analysis on prplhz before you die. I paid good money for it!


As said in the contract, it will be delivered at daybreak.

But I don't think I'll be alive then.

Sorry, I'm at work right now so I can't do it. It'd actually be kinda fun cause I have probably more information on prplhz's meta than anyone else in this game.

But not at work, sorry

That is just a cop out to ensure your survival.
Tell me, if it doesn´t matter whether you live or die, why try to blackmail town into letting you live?

Do you know what I would claim if I was conspirator?
I would tell people it doesn´t matter if I live or die, so they would just let me live.

Now, if it ACTUALLY didn´t matter whether you live or die, I would roll over and die, as any lynch against non scum is an incentive to catch up with use of nukes.
But since you are not doing this, I resume there are very negative effects taking place when you die.

Doesn´t matter though, since your death is hammered already.
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July 07 2011 11:51 GMT
#1402
Actualy I gave 3000$ first for the picture
It´s everything he gave me and I am sure I have done something significant enough this game^^
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July 07 2011 12:53 GMT
#1410
Uhhh what?
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July 07 2011 12:53 GMT
#1412
This does make less sense than it should.
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July 07 2011 12:56 GMT
#1415
GM rescued me and didn´t rescue himself, so technically why does he live and I die?
So all my missiles get shot down, I get shot for giggles, get rescued and then die anyway?
Also my role wasn´t even funny. Unless the joke is that the name gets changed constantly.
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July 07 2011 13:09 GMT
#1421
Why does shit never turn out good for me.
Seriously, this sucks.

I get lynched for telling people what to do.
I get killed for not talking much.
I get fossed for being calm and collected for a change.

The only thing I feel that´s left is trolling the games I´m in.
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July 07 2011 13:10 GMT
#1423
Oh wait, I tried trolling this game.
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July 07 2011 13:16 GMT
#1426
By the way, unless there is a mistake, I am the only actualy ALLY that died. Everyone else was 3rd party.

I hope you feel good Youngminii.
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July 07 2011 13:18 GMT
#1427
On July 07 2011 22:15 Mig wrote:
Matza like 10 nukes were launched solely because of you. You can't exactly be upset at dying.

Oh yes I can, because I was killed by underhanded hidden abilities.
A sneak attack, an unstoppable nuke or something else that wasn´t apprent from things in the thread.

You only got my hopes up to crush them again. Fuck you.
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