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I´d say global thermonuclear warfare is the key here.
I´m already in, but I guess it couldn´t hurt to be in it twice. Let´s see if Caller notices.
YOU WILL DIE!
My name is Mataza and I declare war upon you.
I really, really want to nuke someone. This power is almost uncontrollable.
Also I represent a country of twats. If I was to roleplay them, I´d rather nuke myself.
On July 06 2011 13:26 sandroba wrote:
DAY ENDS in 2 hours. Wiggles where is your vote?
Come on people vote for Palmar. He did not even respond to my case, while being active in other threads. I guarantee you he is scum.
Don´t you dare scare me again.
If you were right I would have been lynched right now, before I even reacted.
First of all, my apologies for long absent. I began playing TF2 a lot since it is now free and I am kinda burned out in regards to mafia.
Seriously people, this is a GAME. Stop being so fucking tense and serious. I am here to have fun, but most of the stuff you´re writing is as interesting as RL politics. I even joined the caller game because Caller games have the reputation to be wtf bananas.
Relax and loosen up and have fun. Peace.
With that said, I propose
Matazas Plan for having funsies
Destroy what destroys you.
Right now the tense atmosphere destroys me, but I am sure as hell I am not allowed to nuke *that*.
It might sound like a consequence free environment, but really it is not. Not entirely at least.
You should be aware that people will do unto you as you do unto them.
Much like mutually assured destruction or to be more biblical "Do unto other as you want be done unto you"
If you want to stop nuclear armageddon, lead by example and don´t nuke.
Because I want to have fun, and right now I am having none.
How does this plan compare to WaW 1? How could it have affected the results of that game?
Who the fuck cares? Didn´t even read that game. At least I am sure these guys *had* fun.
Call me a loose cannon if you want. I am not here to be uptight.
##Vote: Matazas Plan
On another note, of the three allied campaigns Dunkirk is the most obvious choice, really.
Watchtower does jackshit and Axis campaigns or special power may even circumvent that.
Gunnerside sounds good, but considering the arsenal scum might or might not have, will not have as big an effect as you may think. Townnukes are much more dangerous to town than scumnukes. Atop of that it takes 2 turns.
If Gunnerside takes 2 turns, does that mean we get no campaign tomorrow?
I may be not boreitish, but a handful of free veterans is sure a goddamn good deal.
I am in a country of twats that can´t do much until Mr. Twatface himself dies.
May I change sides(the RL twats of this coutnry would sure as hell do, I am sure)?
##Vote: Operation Dunkirk
On yet another note, who to kill today. Here´s what I think:
Palmar doesn´t look like the usual self and completely forgot PTP with a lot of selfownings, of which he actually had the most part in, and substituted it with RTM, where scum where bad enough to slip up left and right and the final scumlynch was a *miscount by the host*.
You gave an example why your shit works, I have a counterexample why it doesn´t.
Scientifically speaking his plan was never waterproof and he just made himself believe it was.
Now Palmar has changed about every game so far, and with every game he gets fuller of himself. Of course he does change the final outcome of games, since he lives until lategame usually.
Take a note out of the book of being humble.
I don´t jugdge alignment of people that tick me of, so I can´t really say if he´s scum or not. But I do want to see him die early for a change.
Sandroba with his constant advising us to double lynch everyday, originally even with multiple missiles depending on claimed nightlives, really really make me think he is the conspirator. As far as I can tell there should be only 1 conspirator and after the conspirator dies we are free to nuke ourselves like no tomorrow. And I want that. I want that sooo much.
On July 06 2011 15:47 Cthsazsa wrote:
Anyone find it weird how easy a bandwagon is forming on Sandroba?
Palmar hasn't been acting protown, but I don't understand why the hell everyone was freaking out when Palmar launched that dud-nuke. He stated as soon as the game began that he has no nukes.
I haven't found his behavior to be scummy, but he's certainly not acting protown. Like someone before me stated, I wouldn't be surprised if he was the Conspirator.
I also think he is a good lynch, but I'm not going to place my vote just yet. I need to go back and read up on the other candidates.
Overall I'm pretty damn glad that no nukes have been launched yet. Hopefully shit doesn't hit the fan until at least Day 2
Oh the irony.
On July 06 2011 18:09 Palmar wrote:
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On July 06 2011 17:54 syllogism wrote:
I'm not going to lynch someone I think is town, especially if the nuke didn't actually get launched
So, first you call me out for not wanting to commit to a plan that I see flawed, but then as soon as the time comes to act on it, you pull out yourself?
What's the point of the entire argument and creating policies if we're not going to follow them?
We settled on a policy, I grudgingly did so and now people want me lynched for not instantly praising the policy, that might actually work in the conspirator's favor. Yes, I don't want to use a vote-nuke tomorrow either. We can do it later in the game, but Sandroba's eagerness to use nukes rubs me the wrong way.
But we settled on it, if we don't lynch Mataza we've basically declared the policy worthless. The brilliant part of this is that you might even know Mataza is town, and thus when this is over, you reluctantly lynch him, but gain fuckton of town credit for "trying to stop a lynch on an innocent".
I'm not going to buy this.
We're lynching Mataza, and if he flips town, I'm not giving you any town credit for trying to stop it. As far as I'm concerned you're scum. I find your willingness to break policies very anti-town, it's actually worse than arguing against them, because you're basically tearing them apart at your own wish.
On July 06 2011 18:26 GMarshal wrote:
Mataza nuked. Mataza dies.
Alignment is irrelevant, this is a policy lynch, in fact, if the nuke phase isn't over I request permission to counternuke so that our lynch can actually generate information.
On July 06 2011 17:52 Palmar wrote:
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On July 06 2011 17:47 syllogism wrote:
I'm pretty sure Mataza is town. This is the weakness of the plan; dumb townies.
I still think he needs to be hanged, if we don't do it we might see scum that are not under suspicion at current do the same, and then just hide behind their good reputation.
That's why it's a policy, we need to enforce it.
I don´t have the time to read the last 3 pages, but i am sick of the word policy already.
I am sorry for interrupting your World at Conference Mafia, but I wanted play WAW Mafia 2.
This is supposed to be awesome, not boring. I stand with my missile and I did fire a missile, I guarantee that. What´s on it you will see.
Also if there is a conspirator he will be unable to nuke someone, logically. His aim is to get others nuking, not to do all the work himself. Just like Mafia are usually a minority on who to lynch.
I regret nothing. Screw policies.
My nuke is not for destruction, but for FREEDOM.
It is to break free from the tyranny of the all-encompassing policies which suppress us all, our people, that is we all who are playing.
I will not stand for rules that take away every responsibility from our actions and that may as well be carried out by machines.
We are Humans and we are all Individuals.
We should therefore act like individuals and decide for ourselves what is the best thing to do.
Palmar confesses he is often wrong in the things he does and more than once got townies killed as the result of it. Is it fair to punish me for something similar while he hides behind the fact that "his missile is only a dud" because "he has no nukes"?
You may now say yes, but be aware that it is because Palmar has a way with words which I don´t have. Ask yourself, if I was more persuasive would you then forgive me? Don´t just say no. Think about it for a minute.
I want my freedom back. My policy is as good as the others. Everyone knows what consequences his actions have, and that´s why my missile didn´t already cause a "shitstorm", unlike every single one of you predicted.
I am fed up with trying to be calm, collected, persuasive, good mannered and whatnot. This is just not me.
I am extreme. I am a crusader. I am justice. I am the missing screws of your new some-assembling-required shelf.
I am the Darkwing Duck of TL Mafia.
The missile I fired is just an expression of how I crave freedom more than anything right now.
I am still in here for the fun. If I don´t have fun while winning, why do I even bother signing up?
I don´t. It may be less effective but it is definitely more enjoyable.
I prefer going down laughing then winning sadly.
How any of my actions make me conspirator is beyond me.
If anything, it would show I suck as conspirator, which I think should be pretty damn hard.
I showed that I fired a missile and even if I didn´t say what is in it or not in it, no one suddenly went in and fired his nukes at some else. The nuclear holocaust you are fearing is not gonna happen.
Actually, retaliatory nukes by townies against townies will only happen if you are uptight enough to take a lynch as personal insult and get worked up over that.
Relax and everything´s gonna be alright. You should trust Bob Marley on that. he is a much wiser man than me.
So I just happen to be able to counterkill you. It´s not like I can lose anything right now.
Let´s talk for abit.
You haven´t been in the thread for a whole long time and as far as I remember you didn´t tell us much besides your intention of nuking someone.
You also said that you actually like the way I tackle this game, yet you volunteered to kill me.
And that´s literally it. Just tidbits like against gunnerside, for Dunkirk.
Do you actually think I´m scum? Who else besides me would you kill/lynch? Do you actually buy GM´s "new way to play" excuse for playing odd without being that much different?
I personally find it strange when someone declares that he is going to try something new so meta should not be used on him. Palmar tried to lynch me for that in SNMM3. + Show Spoiler +
Literally that was his whole thought process(Mataza plays different, he must be scum). That being the blindest tunnel ever actually made the mafia kill me. But I digress.
I do not see the point in making big analysises now as I am sure people will again forget it the moment I die, which is again very soon. At least this time I got a say in when and how I die.
But you are going to live. So tell me what you think so that the whole town may hear it.
Or you are going down with me.
Btw, I am so not america. America didn´t invent freedom and they are not the only people who like it. And they sure as hell didn´t celebrate their freedom the way I do. Guess again.
Only one missile may be fired at a time, unless it is in response to another nuke being fired or otherwise specified.
The way I see it, I am allowed to nuke back at anyone who nukes me.
Please caller explain if this is right.
I considered it, but I think Sand is the conspirator and I hate that faction more than the scum.
On July 07 2011 02:32 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
caller is a baller
On July 07 2011 02:33 youngminii wrote:
if you nuke anyone, i WILL intercept it
however, that is forcing me to waste a valuable resource that is priceless for town
hence, if you do nuke, you are undoubtedly going against your win condition as a townie
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Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.
I instantly don´t believe you.
First, I hate sudden claims as substitutes for talking.
Do you actually dare me and try to just point to the OP as reason for me not to do it?
I hate getting mixed signals, you know. I have nothing to lose. If that´s a bluff it´s the riskiest bluff I´ve ever seen.
What made you nuke me? Did you think I am scum? Are you in love with the goddarn policies?
What about the part where you actually liked what I wrote?
Mixed signals again. Please explain.
Show me what you´ve got.
I will go only this far. If you think you are in a position with so much more leverage than me, prove it.
If you are a nation with a nuke and 2 antinukes or even more, I would go as far as to say you are not supposed to use them all for yourself.
It looks very much like a roleblocker, who is supposed to defend scum from nukes, while the other scum don´t have antinukes.
But I think you´ve got some explaining to do.
Either you have 2 counternukes for real, or you are using counternukes from people you can talk with, e.g. your scum buddies, in order to support your claim.
Viva la resistance!