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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On June 29 2011 09:33 sandroba wrote: Can everyone pls read my post that's been spammed out by 20 oneliners: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237124¤tpage=23#452 And give an opinion on sinani206? I somewhat agree. I think Drazerk is still a better lynch then the Twins, but I'm not saying I think they're both town either. I don't want to have an FoS on multiple people, I want to focus on one person at a time. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
@Cthsazsa I'm not putting the sinanis toghether and everyone should probably stop doing it aswell. I do have a problem with one post Drazek made, but he did acuse sinani206 afterwards and defended GM in a townie way. Your PBP analysis is too nitpicky. He did take a stand regarding GM afterwards. Explain how Drazek must be mafia or is pushing mafia objetives. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
Syllogism is a blue. protect him (if a medic didnt already) On June 28 2011 17:27 syllogism wrote: Can actions be sent in advance? That is to say, can detectives and medics PM their next targets before the day post as long as the PM specifically clarifies their intention? I've been reading the thread and i saw people against Lurker checking but how likely is it that inactives/Lurkers are GF? Not likely so there is nothing to lose with Lurker checks, and you ARE confirming townies anyways. But priority is major lynch targets (that are not set up for a vig hit) Also i said im at my friends house .. Im not going to play Mafia at my friends house -_- On June 29 2011 09:09 Drazerk wrote: May I suggest you read simple mini mafia 4 where as town I give my self up to be lynched every day? Pretty hardcore martyring. I use to rage when i martyred (when i was wee newbie too). makes you look more town. You are too calm to be town. ##Vote Drazerk Reasoning: 1) your martyring is terrible. 2) you're a calm martyr. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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Kenpachi
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On June 29 2011 09:33 sandroba wrote: Can everyone pls read my post that's been spammed out by 20 oneliners: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237124¤tpage=23#452 And give an opinion on sinani206? I'm as yet unsure on 206. At the beginning of the game he seemed like he was being spammy and trying to make an appearance of contributing, but he has since improved his posting some. In reference to the 'slips' he made, I don't think they are slips at all. They aren't very good posts, but I do not believe they are scum slips. I want to see more from him before I make a decision or vote for him. After looking through the thread again, someone who really stands out to me is Cthasza. Fluff posts: Warning - Lots of em + Show Spoiler + One-liner spam. Does not contribute. On June 28 2011 12:30 Cthsazsa wrote: I agree with what Chaos13 said about the whole "setting up a pro-town atmosphere". No need for the useless fingerpointing when we're only about 20 minutes into the game. Also, flawed plan =/= scum. I think some of us learned that from PTP? lol. Repeats what has already been said without adding anything new. On June 28 2011 12:34 Cthsazsa wrote: That was more directed towards youngminii then anyone else but alrighty. One-liner spam again. On June 28 2011 12:57 Cthsazsa wrote: If it's going to help in nailing down scum, why wouldn't it be something worth discussing? The way I see it actually turning into spam is if people keep bringing up the plans even though majority of town agree's No. Does not contribute anything meaningful. On June 28 2011 13:12 Cthsazsa wrote: I'm interested in hearing it LSB. If there's any flaws, we dismiss it as a bad plan and move on. Simple, no? Spamerrific. On June 28 2011 15:03 Cthsazsa wrote: Oh lawd Lanaia -__- I'm sorry if I sound rude, I'm really not trying to be, but if you're wondering what a Zodiac list is just Google it. I dont want there to be 2 pages full of nothing but Zodiac discussion like in PTP. This is less useful than if he just explained what the damn thing is. On June 28 2011 15:45 Cthsazsa wrote: Sorry, I couldn't help but lol. That was so random. Vigi hit or mafia? I think if it was scum, they might as well have used all KP and killed 3 people? More spam! Is anyone else getting as tired of this as I am? On June 28 2011 15:47 Cthsazsa wrote: ebwop: Never mind, I doubt it was vigi. They only have one bullet, and the compulsive vigi's cant shoot until Day 2. ...spam... And now we get to something interesting: a big FoS on Drazerk. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2011 07:40 Cthsazsa wrote: I've just finished reading each and every one of Drazerk's posts. With all of his one-liner type posts this dude is talking just to remain off the lurker list while trying to blend in with town and look like he's contributing. + Show Spoiler + On June 28 2011 16:38 Drazerk wrote: Right I have just woke up and I am read the thread. @Sandroba - Ive not got an Opinion on Gm yet he seems to be pro town just crazy about killing lurkers which would not be a bad thing in any other game but with the lurker mechanic all the scum will More or less be spamming to stay off it. As for Young His plan seemed to revolve around the mafia only having 1 KP which could of been a mistake rather than a Deliberate plan to confuse the medics but it is less likely to be a mafia ploy since he would know about the KP. It is possible for Gm to be scum but I still need to read through the whole of the thread before i can make my mind up Drazerk's very first post of the game. It contains nothing of value, except for the very last sentence. He is very hesitant to choose a side. He's waiting for what everyone else has to say before he makes a move. On June 28 2011 21:46 Drazerk wrote: After reading Dropbear's post on Henry is anyone Else suspicious of Edward the first? At the start of the game he is Pretty much forced into talking by Henry which Dropbear picked up on but no one really followed it up. ( I think LSB died a few moments later ) As other people have said the majority of his posts are him stating they are not the same person and the only thing he has truly contributed was outlining a mistake by Chaos Either Alerting his mafia buddies of a possible medic claim or just being stupid Personally Im suspecting Both Edward and Henry due to the amount of Fluff they are producing to keep of that lurker list This was your 2nd post of the game and it contained nothing worth mentioning or reading, yet you're criticizing Nisani for not contributing? Personally it looks like you're just talking to stay off the lurker list. It also looks like you're trying to make a bandwagon on the twins. Your only reason for FoS'ing them is "DropBear said so" and "they're posting fluff". Wtf? On June 28 2011 22:24 Drazerk wrote: Hmm As im already FoSing these two guys I still think 201 may be a more of a pressing target as he has acted most like scum, although I believe both of them are possible scum and if 206 comes up red we will Probably have another shot to take Tommorow. ( See that small pointless engagement at the start of the game ) First off I think it's hilarious how everyone missed the sarcasm in Palmar's post. Why won't you tell us why they're possible scum? & yes, their conversation was pointless but there was no other real discussion happening while Sinani did that. Also you're acting very hypocritical because your first 3 posts haven't done anything except cause me to find you suspicious. There you go. Drazerk's first three posts of the game. What was the importance of the Big 3? He refused to choose a side until other people voiced their opinion. As soon as DropBear brought up the twins, Drazerk flew in from nowhere and immediately FoS'd them. His reasons were so weak and contradictory they aren't worth an FoS and look more like an attempt to start a bandwagon. You're saying that they're scum for posting fluff/not contributing, but read these 3 posts and tell me you're not doing the same exact thing as them. It looks like Drazerk was posting just cause. He had nothing valuable that was worth saying. Drazerk goes on to vote for Sinani206, which is weird because he clearly said that (for some reason I have yet to know) he finds Sinani201 (Nisani) to be the more suspicious one. His next three posts are all empty one-liners that aren't worth quoting. his 7th post. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2011 01:32 Drazerk wrote: How do I always get pinned as mafia within the first day... Do you really want me to start martyring again? left right and centre? Anyway i think GMarshal is possibly scum im not certain unlike how I am with 201/206 so im not going to stick my neck out on the line unless im certain ( see XL / Mini I rarely commit until im positive ) As for Hiro I did not get into the day until after he dropped off and am going to need to look at all of his posts again before I say anything. Make up your mind man! Why weren't you able to make up your mind about GM?? You have also yet to explain why the twins are a viable lynch target. Again, it adds absolutely nothing -_- This is probably his biggest post of the game, and even if I put it in spoilers I think it would still clutter up this post >_> But here it is. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237124¤tpage=19#363 TL;DR ? Good. That means as mafia he achieved his goal. He made a HUGE-ASS post that looks like it's contributing, but it doesn't do jack shit. Look past the words and it's an empty post with nothing. Absolutely no valuable. The ONLY THING that post did was explain why he doesn't think GMarshal is scum. He then proceeds to bring up the list, which I believe was already a dead discussion, quotes the WHOLE DAMN THING and simply says "It will be important in the future" His next 6 posts have a bare minimum of 2 SENTENCES in them. They don't contribute shit. All he's doing is talking just to stay off the lurker list while not helping Town at all. I ask everyone to spare 10 minutes of their time and read Drazerk's post history in this thread. He hasn't done jack squat all the while trying to start a bandwagon and accuse people of the same exact crime he is committing. As of now I find him a way better lynch candid then anyone else here. I will be voting for Drazerk, and I plan to keep it there. ##Vote: Drazerk What makes this FoS interesting is that for all it's length, it is really rather weak. His first statement is that he feels Drazerk is scummy because he isn't attempting to contribute and is just spamming. So...why all the spam from yourself, Cthasza? The posts of Drazerk's you referenced had more content than yours. This is literally the only post you have made all game that is longer than a few lines. ##Vote: Cthasza | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
I'm voting for Draserk because he is full of contradictions and slip-ups, NOT because of spam. That is all. | ||
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Nisani201
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
On June 29 2011 10:29 chaos13 wrote: I'm as yet unsure on 206. At the beginning of the game he seemed like he was being spammy and trying to make an appearance of contributing, but he has since improved his posting some. In reference to the 'slips' he made, I don't think they are slips at all. They aren't very good posts, but I do not believe they are scum slips. I want to see more from him before I make a decision or vote for him. After looking through the thread again, someone who really stands out to me is Cthasza. Fluff posts: Warning - Lots of em + Show Spoiler + One-liner spam. Does not contribute. On June 28 2011 12:30 Cthsazsa wrote: I agree with what Chaos13 said about the whole "setting up a pro-town atmosphere". No need for the useless fingerpointing when we're only about 20 minutes into the game. Also, flawed plan =/= scum. I think some of us learned that from PTP? lol. Repeats what has already been said without adding anything new. On June 28 2011 12:34 Cthsazsa wrote: That was more directed towards youngminii then anyone else but alrighty. One-liner spam again. On June 28 2011 12:57 Cthsazsa wrote: If it's going to help in nailing down scum, why wouldn't it be something worth discussing? The way I see it actually turning into spam is if people keep bringing up the plans even though majority of town agree's No. Does not contribute anything meaningful. On June 28 2011 13:12 Cthsazsa wrote: I'm interested in hearing it LSB. If there's any flaws, we dismiss it as a bad plan and move on. Simple, no? Spamerrific. On June 28 2011 15:03 Cthsazsa wrote: Oh lawd Lanaia -__- I'm sorry if I sound rude, I'm really not trying to be, but if you're wondering what a Zodiac list is just Google it. I dont want there to be 2 pages full of nothing but Zodiac discussion like in PTP. This is less useful than if he just explained what the damn thing is. On June 28 2011 15:45 Cthsazsa wrote: Sorry, I couldn't help but lol. That was so random. Vigi hit or mafia? I think if it was scum, they might as well have used all KP and killed 3 people? More spam! Is anyone else getting as tired of this as I am? On June 28 2011 15:47 Cthsazsa wrote: ebwop: Never mind, I doubt it was vigi. They only have one bullet, and the compulsive vigi's cant shoot until Day 2. ...spam... And now we get to something interesting: a big FoS on Drazerk. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2011 07:40 Cthsazsa wrote: I've just finished reading each and every one of Drazerk's posts. With all of his one-liner type posts this dude is talking just to remain off the lurker list while trying to blend in with town and look like he's contributing. + Show Spoiler + On June 28 2011 16:38 Drazerk wrote: Right I have just woke up and I am read the thread. @Sandroba - Ive not got an Opinion on Gm yet he seems to be pro town just crazy about killing lurkers which would not be a bad thing in any other game but with the lurker mechanic all the scum will More or less be spamming to stay off it. As for Young His plan seemed to revolve around the mafia only having 1 KP which could of been a mistake rather than a Deliberate plan to confuse the medics but it is less likely to be a mafia ploy since he would know about the KP. It is possible for Gm to be scum but I still need to read through the whole of the thread before i can make my mind up Drazerk's very first post of the game. It contains nothing of value, except for the very last sentence. He is very hesitant to choose a side. He's waiting for what everyone else has to say before he makes a move. On June 28 2011 21:46 Drazerk wrote: After reading Dropbear's post on Henry is anyone Else suspicious of Edward the first? At the start of the game he is Pretty much forced into talking by Henry which Dropbear picked up on but no one really followed it up. ( I think LSB died a few moments later ) As other people have said the majority of his posts are him stating they are not the same person and the only thing he has truly contributed was outlining a mistake by Chaos Either Alerting his mafia buddies of a possible medic claim or just being stupid Personally Im suspecting Both Edward and Henry due to the amount of Fluff they are producing to keep of that lurker list This was your 2nd post of the game and it contained nothing worth mentioning or reading, yet you're criticizing Nisani for not contributing? Personally it looks like you're just talking to stay off the lurker list. It also looks like you're trying to make a bandwagon on the twins. Your only reason for FoS'ing them is "DropBear said so" and "they're posting fluff". Wtf? On June 28 2011 22:24 Drazerk wrote: Hmm As im already FoSing these two guys I still think 201 may be a more of a pressing target as he has acted most like scum, although I believe both of them are possible scum and if 206 comes up red we will Probably have another shot to take Tommorow. ( See that small pointless engagement at the start of the game ) First off I think it's hilarious how everyone missed the sarcasm in Palmar's post. Why won't you tell us why they're possible scum? & yes, their conversation was pointless but there was no other real discussion happening while Sinani did that. Also you're acting very hypocritical because your first 3 posts haven't done anything except cause me to find you suspicious. There you go. Drazerk's first three posts of the game. What was the importance of the Big 3? He refused to choose a side until other people voiced their opinion. As soon as DropBear brought up the twins, Drazerk flew in from nowhere and immediately FoS'd them. His reasons were so weak and contradictory they aren't worth an FoS and look more like an attempt to start a bandwagon. You're saying that they're scum for posting fluff/not contributing, but read these 3 posts and tell me you're not doing the same exact thing as them. It looks like Drazerk was posting just cause. He had nothing valuable that was worth saying. Drazerk goes on to vote for Sinani206, which is weird because he clearly said that (for some reason I have yet to know) he finds Sinani201 (Nisani) to be the more suspicious one. His next three posts are all empty one-liners that aren't worth quoting. his 7th post. + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2011 01:32 Drazerk wrote: How do I always get pinned as mafia within the first day... Do you really want me to start martyring again? left right and centre? Anyway i think GMarshal is possibly scum im not certain unlike how I am with 201/206 so im not going to stick my neck out on the line unless im certain ( see XL / Mini I rarely commit until im positive ) As for Hiro I did not get into the day until after he dropped off and am going to need to look at all of his posts again before I say anything. Make up your mind man! Why weren't you able to make up your mind about GM?? You have also yet to explain why the twins are a viable lynch target. Again, it adds absolutely nothing -_- This is probably his biggest post of the game, and even if I put it in spoilers I think it would still clutter up this post >_> But here it is. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237124¤tpage=19#363 TL;DR ? Good. That means as mafia he achieved his goal. He made a HUGE-ASS post that looks like it's contributing, but it doesn't do jack shit. Look past the words and it's an empty post with nothing. Absolutely no valuable. The ONLY THING that post did was explain why he doesn't think GMarshal is scum. He then proceeds to bring up the list, which I believe was already a dead discussion, quotes the WHOLE DAMN THING and simply says "It will be important in the future" His next 6 posts have a bare minimum of 2 SENTENCES in them. They don't contribute shit. All he's doing is talking just to stay off the lurker list while not helping Town at all. I ask everyone to spare 10 minutes of their time and read Drazerk's post history in this thread. He hasn't done jack squat all the while trying to start a bandwagon and accuse people of the same exact crime he is committing. As of now I find him a way better lynch candid then anyone else here. I will be voting for Drazerk, and I plan to keep it there. ##Vote: Drazerk What makes this FoS interesting is that for all it's length, it is really rather weak. His first statement is that he feels Drazerk is scummy because he isn't attempting to contribute and is just spamming. So...why all the spam from yourself, Cthasza? The posts of Drazerk's you referenced had more content than yours. This is literally the only post you have made all game that is longer than a few lines. ##Vote: Cthasza Explain how the posts I quoted have more content than mine. That's really damned hard to believe. Also, should I quote every single of his one-liners as well? I was the first (and only) person to say that flawed plans do not equal scum is a lesson learned from PTP. Personally I dont think most of those posts are spam. I was pushing for discussion of LSB's plan because he was hesitating to tell us. Sinani was confused about who I was referring to, why would I simply ignore him? Since there was no other discussion happening at the time I decided there was no harm in pondering if the hit was scum or vigi. The answer was obvious, so I think that one post actually might qualify as spam. Actually if I explained the whole concept of a Zodiac list it would just clutter up the thread with useless shit. Read: PTP Since when did ebwop's become spam? It's funny how you're saying Drazerk's post has more content then me, which is a blatant lie. If you dont believe me then go back and read his post history, plz. Try again before calling me scum, kthanxbye | ||
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
On June 29 2011 08:56 Drazerk wrote: Well looks like I am dead, At least when I am dead ill flip green Proving GM is innocent. Was bound to happen as I am always day 1 lynch suspect. When I die you will be at a disadvantage but at least you will have a Guaranteed Townie. ( Medics better defend him don't let my death be in vain ) I'm off to bed He suddenly not only doesn't think that GM is scum, but somehow came to the conclusion that he is a confirmed innocent, then lays it on pretty heavy Proving GM is innocent you will have a Guaranteed Townie Medics better defend him don't let my death be in vain And I actually think that this is him trying to pretend that he's all close with GM so if/when he flips red we attack GM deciding that they were together, the conclusion of this being: GM is probably town if Drazerk flips red. ##Vote Drazerk | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
@Drazerk what the holy fuck are you doing? Martyring with almost 30 hours left in the day? I don't care if you've done it before, it's the worst possible thing a townie who's liable to be lynched could do. If you are town, prove it. Show us how town you are by contributing, analyzing, and weighing in on stuff so that if we do lynch you, we've got loads of information. Seriously bad attitude, step it up. @Edward I: people who have been spamming are being called scum for spamming, not because they are bringing up other scummy players. Hypocrisy and trying to divert attention are generally scum tactics. Didn't the town win in XLII? I co-hosted that. oh, and ##unvote syllogism He's no longer being pressured because he's not leading the lynch (I think), so my vote has no purpose. In retrospect, he's probably bored town. By the way, votes are really spread out right now. For the time being, it's ok, because most votes are (or should be) primarily pressure votes, with the exception of the bandwagons (syllogism, Drazerk). We're almost halfway through the day now, so we should move to consolidate the lynch into two or three major candidates, and encourage everybody to vote for one of them, and take a stance. Right now the only bandwagon that I'm at all comfortable with is the one on Drazerk. | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On June 29 2011 11:18 Sinani201 wrote: Ingocnito was co-hosting XLII. Are you sure you're thinking of the right game? oops. I was thinking of XL. Lurkers lost the town for XLII, plain and simple. | ||
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chaos13
Canada885 Posts
On June 29 2011 10:47 Cthsazsa wrote: Explain how the posts I quoted have more content than mine. That's really damned hard to believe. Also, should I quote every single of his one-liners as well? I was the first (and only) person to say that flawed plans do not equal scum is a lesson learned from PTP. Personally I dont think most of those posts are spam. I was pushing for discussion of LSB's plan because he was hesitating to tell us. Sinani was confused about who I was referring to, why would I simply ignore him? Since there was no other discussion happening at the time I decided there was no harm in pondering if the hit was scum or vigi. The answer was obvious, so I think that one post actually might qualify as spam. Actually if I explained the whole concept of a Zodiac list it would just clutter up the thread with useless shit. Read: PTP Since when did ebwop's become spam? It's funny how you're saying Drazerk's post has more content then me, which is a blatant lie. If you dont believe me then go back and read his post history, plz. Try again before calling me scum, kthanxbye That's actually a really good defense Cthsazsa, and you've alleviated my fears that you're scum. Thank you for the quick response. I'll take my vote off of you before day ends. I'm beginning to agree about Drazerk, but there are a few questions I have regarding that: 1. How do we know he is just not noob town? Has he played much before? 2. Why is there no resistance to his lynch party? 3. If he is mafia, you would think his scumbuddies would be helping him improve his posting. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
I wanted to say that Drazak saying his flip will prove anything is stupid, my alignment is not tied to his in any way, if he flips green I may be scum still. If he flips red, I may be green, or red. Making assumptions about me based on him or him based on me is wifom at best, stupid at worst. More constructive opinions as soon as I handle a couple things that have popped up IRL. I may end up not posting till tomorrow, I'll see what I can do. | ||
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Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
On June 29 2011 11:56 chaos13 wrote: I'm beginning to agree about Drazerk, but there are a few questions I have regarding that: 1. How do we know he is just not noob town? Has he played much before? 2. Why is there no resistance to his lynch party? 3. If he is mafia, you would think his scumbuddies would be helping him improve his posting. 1. He has played two games, XLII and SNMM IV. In SNMM IV at least, he martyred every day. He should know by now that it's terrible play, especially if you look at how far it got him in SNMM IV (the town wasted loads of time arguing about whether or not to lynch him instead of doing productive things because he refused to fight the lynch, and instead said, repeatedly "I'll show you how wrong you were when I flip!" 2. Ask me again in 12 hours. 3. WifoM. "no scum would post this terribly" is a very poor argument. Especially when we're dealing with somebody with a town meta to give up as soon as he's pressured. There's a reason I fear the day when Kenpachi rolls mafia. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On June 28 2011 17:27 syllogism wrote: Can actions be sent in advance? That is to say, can detectives and medics PM their next targets before the day post as long as the PM specifically clarifies their intention? I didn't see this asked before, and the answer is no. Once your action is sent in it is finalized. It is your job to be here to send me in an action. | ||
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